Hi Everyone, Thanks to Pat Allon on this list, one of my major brick walls crumbled to dust. As a way of saying thank you to all the people who do the look ups we can't do ourselves I am once again offering to go to the Library to look up Death Notices from the Evening Chronicle - see the index at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/DeathNotices/ hopefully it will be Thursday or Friday of this week but it might be next week before I go. Please put the date first then the name of the person you want the death notice for. 24 March 1899, DANIEL REMFRY age 77 at Heaton. This will make it easier for me to find the details on the emails and get the correct microfilms out of the drawers. Margaret Hall Wallsend. -----Original Message----- From: dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Janeen McLachlan Sent: 29 January 2007 22:17 To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DUR-NBL] Newcastle Evening Chronicle Is there some kind person on the list who has access to the Newcastle Evening Chronicle for 24 March 1899 who would look up the death notice for DANIEL REMFRY age 77 at Heaton. I found this reference on Genuki but do not have access to this paper and would love to know what the death notice says. Thanks in anticipation. Janeen McLachlan Inverloch Australia

Hello Jenny and the List The list on Genuki is an index to the Death Notices I have copied the full notices for names I am interested in some of which are family members some are not. I have also done look-ups for people who have requested them on a number of mailing lists, which is why some of the names from the Genuki list have appeared in the lists I have posted Regards Grant

Resending this as it seemed to go straight to the 'Archives.' ------------------------------------------------------------------- Not sure if anyone has mentioned this new site or not, but the National Archives in association with Findmypast has this site where those departing the UK for long distant voyages can be searched. Indexes are free but 'Pay to view' images and transcripts.. Years 1890 to 1899 at present, but in time will go through to 1960. http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/ Cheers Linda

Are you unaware that these are all already transcribed on the Genuki site? There is an index of Deaths taken form the Newcastle Evening Chronicle from 2nd. November 1885 - 31st. December 1904. I believe it is an ongoing project by the people who produced the transcriptions. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/DeathNotices/ It would be a shame if you are wasting your time going over something that has already been done. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. > Hello List > I am amazed how quickly the number of these accumulate > ID Name Age Date of Death Location > > 112 EMMETT Margaret 29 July 1891 St Peters > 113 EMMETT Charles 64 14 July 1893 St Anthonys > 114 EMMETT William 24 June 1900 St Peters > 115 EMMETT John 10 October 1900 Newcastle > 116 EMMETT Edith 3 23 April 1902 Jarrow > 117 SIMPSON George Henry 3 12 August 1906 Newcastle

In message <d15.203632e.32ef0bf9@aol.com>, Georger14738@aol.com writes >In the 1851 Census it say my GG Grandfather Mathew ROBSON was born in Birtly >Northumberland. I know there is a Birtly in Co Durham. With the boundries >changing over the years is this the same Birtly or are there two. >George Hi George, There are actually 2 Birtleys in Co. Durham and 1 in Northumberland. The Birtley near Washington and also small hamlet (more a farm really near Newton Cap Bishop Auckland. The Northumberland one is a parish in its own right- <http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Birtley/index.html> Regards, -- Helen Oram

Hi List. I think I have just found the death of my ggggrandmother and her address was given as JARROW ROW. Is this the same as Jarrow Pit Row?My gggrandfather was a pitman. If not could someone please tell me where in Jarrow it was? Thankyou Maureen in Oz

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this new site or not, but the National Archives in association with Findmypast has this site where those departing the UK for long distant voyages can be searched. Indexes are free but 'Pay to view' images and transcripts.. Years 1890 to 1899 at present, but in time will go through to 1960. http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/ Cheers Linda

Hello List, My 2X Great Grandfather David Alexander Guthrie born September 1831 in Ouseburn, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England was a Coal Miner and had probably been in a Mining Accident as in the 1871 census David was in Walker Hospital and Died in 1872. David's death was found in the quarter of December 1872. Was his death caused by a Mining accident from 1871 or did he linger until 1872, or had he been in another accident? Has anyone a list of people that were in Mining accidents in the Northumberland area please. Or has someone seen a newspaper artical in the Chronical for a Death or Accident of David A Guthrie please. Thank you in advance for a Information I might receive. Kind Regards Pamela J Groves

I am going to Durham Record Office on Wednesday and hopefully to get some Babtism, Marriage and death Transcripts of my family. I wonder if anyone can help me out with some details. I am looking for the parents of Ann ATKINSON. Father John ATKINSON, Mother Margaret HALL, I think they were born around 1817 at Chester-lee-Street and were Living at East Hetton, Coxhoe in 1842 when Ann ATKINSON was born. Also looking for the parents of Mary Ann HALL. Father Ralph HALL, Mother Mary Ann TURPIN. They were living in Quarrington Hill in 1858 when Mary Ann was born. George

In the 1851 Census it say my GG Grandfather Mathew ROBSON was born in Birtly Northumberland. I know there is a Birtly in Co Durham. With the boundries changing over the years is this the same Birtly or are there two. George

Isabella Irving age 4 and Adam Robson age 8 are listed with their Uncle Benjamin Harrison in the 1901 census I'm hoping they where just visiting at the time. can someone look for for Isabella Irving in the 1901 census and hope she is with her parents they might be Robert & Mary Irving the same with Adam Robson in the 1901 census his mother name might be Sarah this is the only thing I can think of , to find out their parents names Sherry

Hello List I am amazed how quickly the number of these accumulate ID Name Age Date of Death Location 112 EMMETT Margaret 29 July 1891 St Peters 113 EMMETT Charles 64 14 July 1893 St Anthonys 114 EMMETT William 24 June 1900 St Peters 115 EMMETT John 10 October 1900 Newcastle 116 EMMETT Edith 3 23 April 1902 Jarrow 117 SIMPSON George Henry 3 12 August 1906 Newcastle 118 DOUGHERTY Ann 13 March 1923 Newcastle 119 McALLISTER Mary Ann 20 20 July 1900 Gateshead 120 LACKENBY Francis Arrowsmith 2 13 September 1901 Byker 121 BATEY Ernest 71 30 November 1992 Whickham 122 DAWSON Elizabeth 71 18 June 1902 Jesus Hospital 123 ARMSTRONG Charlotte 90 2 January 1987 Shieldfield 124 NEWMAN Annie 78 16 January 1987 Byker 125 FOSTER John 62 15 March 1900 Jarrow 126 SCANLAN Ellen Ann 19 13 January 1903 Hebburn 127 ARMSTRONG Mary Ann 78 20 May 1921 Hexham 128 TENCH Kate 12 May 1921 Vancouver BC 129 CHEESEBOROUGH Thomas Oakley 51 30 April 1902 Newcastle 130 DAWSON Nicholas 1 May 1902 Newcastle 131 MULGROVE Joseph 75 15 November 1955 Newcastle 132 ORR Alexander 80 17 December 1955 Brunswick Village 133 ORR Alexander Clarke Logan 81 30 August 1987 Brunswick Village 134 BUTLER Catherine 61 10 March 1933 Newcastle 135 ORR John 80 27 February 1903 Shields Hospital 136 LACKENBY Brenda 28 June 1943 Newcastle 137 ORR Mary 83 10 May 1946 Newcastle 138 DAWSON Mary Jane 92 6 July 1943 Newcastle 139 ARMSTRONG Mary 72 19 September 1943 Newcastle 140 BAXTER William 42 19 October 1943 Newcastle 141 AINSLIE Elizabeth 81 6 May 1921 Wallsend 142 LORENTSON Walter 53 14 September 1901 Newcastle The two Alexander Orrs are father and son As usual anyone is welcome to the full notice Grant

Hi Bette, Coalcleugh and Whitely Shield are very little distance apart from each other. I drive past them regularly, on the road up to Nenthead to see my mother. Whitely Shield was an old bastle but not much remains of the bastle, but enough to see it. The house next to it has been restored, but was amazing pre-restoration. It looked at though it was the next step up to a bastle. I have friends who still live in Coalceugh. It's a wee bit bleak up there in the winter, (how the old folk managed in the winters, I don't know), but glorious in the summer. Kind regards, Yvonne >> From: Autobyke@aol.com [mailto:Autobyke@aol.com] Sent: 28 January 2007 09:41 To: bmcintosh@new.rr.com Cc: DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Wolfe Cleugh & Whitely Shield > location Hi Bette There is a Coalcleugh in the area you speak of near Allenheads and Alston. Have a look at this link to an Ordnance Survey map of the location. _http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm?mapAction=gaz&gazNam e= p&gazString=NENTHEAD_ (http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm?mapAction=gaz&gazNam e=p&gazString=NENTHEAD) Coalcleugh is only a couple of farms now, it was once a busy lead mining centre. Also look fo it on maps within the triangle of Alston, Allendale and Allenheads...Regards...Shaun <<

1851 census - Back St, South Wingate Colliery???, Monk Hesledon, Co Durham Richard Musgrove 31, Head, Married, Miner, born Colly Dikes?, Lanchester, Co Durham Margaret Musgrove, 35, Wife, Married, born Stanhope, Co Durham Benjamin Musgrove, 6, son, scholar, born Coxhoe, Co Durham Joseph Musgrove, 4, son, scholar, born Lead Gate, Co Durham Phoebe Ann Musgrove, 3, daughter, at home, born Lead Gate, Co Durham Michael Musgrove, 1, son, born Marley Hill, Co Durham Michael Gardner, 70, father in law, widower, formerly a miner, born Stanhope, Co Durham Marriage of Richard Musgrove to Margaret Gardner: 09 JUN 1838 - All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Source: IGI. If you think this is the right family, I can look them up in 1861. Diane > From: bobnsher3@verizon.net> To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 15:28:58 -0500> Subject: [DUR-NBL] Musgrove family> > Benjamin Musgrove b. 24 Aug 1794 d. Jun 1869 (maybe)> married Mary Hogg (maybe)> kids:> Richard b. 1818 Durham> Mary b. 1821 Durham> Isabella b. 1824 Durahm married John Harrison (1st) & Thomas Perry> Ann b. 1826 Durham married John Todd abt 1847> Benjamin b. 1831 Durham> Sarah b. 1829 Durham> > I do not know much about this family above is all I know> > I tried looking for Richard b. 1818 & Benjamin b 1831 in the 1881 census > but had no luck> > If someone would help lookup census on> Richard born 1818 & Benjamin born 1831> > Isabella is my 3x grandmother & Thomas Perry my 3x grandfather> I'm willing to share what info I have on her> I'd > appreciate it.> > Sherry > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ====> To Post a message to this list send it to,> DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ====> List Web Page> http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get the new Windows Live Messenger! http://get.live.com/messenger/overview

Sherry 1841 - Lamesley, Chester le Street (address looks like Burnt House) Richard Musgrove, 23, Coal Miner, born in Durham Margaret Musgrove, 24, born in Durham Phoeby (sic) Musgrove, 1 month, born in Durham John Richardson, 24, no occupation listed, born in Durham Cannot find a Benjamin. If not with his parents, may have died young. Check the bmd or familysearch.org Diane > From: bobnsher3@verizon.net> To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 15:28:58 -0500> Subject: [DUR-NBL] Musgrove family> > Benjamin Musgrove b. 24 Aug 1794 d. Jun 1869 (maybe)> married Mary Hogg (maybe)> kids:> Richard b. 1818 Durham> Mary b. 1821 Durham> Isabella b. 1824 Durahm married John Harrison (1st) & Thomas Perry> Ann b. 1826 Durham married John Todd abt 1847> Benjamin b. 1831 Durham> Sarah b. 1829 Durham> > I do not know much about this family above is all I know> > I tried looking for Richard b. 1818 & Benjamin b 1831 in the 1881 census > but had no luck> > If someone would help lookup census on> Richard born 1818 & Benjamin born 1831> > Isabella is my 3x grandmother & Thomas Perry my 3x grandfather> I'm willing to share what info I have on her> I'd > appreciate it.> > Sherry > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ====> To Post a message to this list send it to,> DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ====> List Web Page> http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get connected - Use your Hotmail address to sign into Windows Live Messenger now. http://get.live.com/messenger/overview

Dear Listers (especially Keith, Margaret F., Laurel N., Yvonne P., Shaun et al), Thanks to so many who took the time to help me pinpoint the location of Wolf Cleugh, NBL. I am just beginning to learn my way around the area that I believe may be correctly referred to as Weardale; although the use of that term may be an incorrect assumption on my part. Anyway, I am having fun learning about this place and the surrounding countryside. My research in this area concerns John HETHERINGTON of Redheugh & Anthony BURDESS of Coalcleugh b/b ca. 1720-1740 along with William BURDESS (Anthony's son) whose b/b place remains undetermined. Although the above referenced locations for both John & Anthony are given in a marriage record for their children, as the places of their residences, I do not necessarily believe that the father's were b/b in these locations. I am about the business of trying to locate the bap entries for all of the above plus an Elizabeth HETHERINGTON; daughter of John. Anyone know anything that will help to direct my search? Bette > Hi Bette, there is a Wolf Cleugh in West Allendale, NBL also. Since > Whitley > Shield is close to it, are you seeking info on ancestors who lived there? > I > might be able to help if you can let us know what/who you are researching. > I > am familiar with many of the families in the Allendale area. > > Thanks, Laurel Nattress

Hi All, I've just rejoined this list after a long break from this branch of the family. On revisiting my information I noticed a discrepancy in some dates and have discovered my 2 x great-grandfather Andrew McCAFFREY / McCAFFERY was married twice. Andrew a coal miner was born in 1867 in Armagh, Ireland. He came England with his parents (Owen & Margaret) and siblings (Owen, Michael & John) in about 1870 and they settled in Felling, Durham. In 1881 the family had moved to Gateshead. By Andrew had married Mary TURNBULL and had a daughter Margaret Elizabeth born 1889 in Felling. By 1891 the family had moved to Seghill and later the same year Agnes was born, Ellen followed in 1893. According to the 1891 census Mary was born in Eckford, Scotland about 1871. I believe Mary died between 1893 and 1898. Andrew married Ellen McCORMICK (born c.1871, Scotland) in 1898 and they had 2 children Mary born c.1898/1899 and Owen born 1901. I've tried to find a marriage for Andrew and Mary as Mary was my 2xgreat-grandmother (their daughter Margaret being my great-grandmother). I haven't been successful yet unless a mistake in the index is the answer as I've found an Alexander McCAFFREY marrying a Mary TURNBULL in the June quarter of 1888 in the Gateshead district. I have had incorrect names in the index for another family marriage but it was the surname that was wrong. I also don't know when Mary came to Durham from Scotland so if anyone can help with this it would be much appreciated although if I find the marriage I guess having her fathers name will help. If anyone has identified the above family as being part of their tree I'd love to here from you. Regards Karen Cogan West Yorkshire Also researching: MARSHALL, CARR, DEVENEY in the Northumberland, Durham & Ireland (except Marshall).

1841 Census Dipton Benjam Musgrove abt 1796 Durham, England Lanchester Durham Isabella Musgrove abt 1826 Durham, England Lanchester Durham Mary Musgrove abt 1801 Durham, England Lanchester Durham Sarah Musgrove abt 1829 Durham, England Lanchester Durham Regards Stan Mapstone

1841 Census, Lanchester District Collierley,Dipton & Pontop - Dipton (HO 107 301/7 - Folio 9, Page 10) Benjamin Musgrove, 45, Agricultural Labourer Mary Musgrove, 40 Isabella Musgrove, 15, Dressmaker Sarah Musgrove, 12 1851 Census, Lanchester District Collierley, Dipton & Pontop 1851, Dipton (HO107/2389/folio 123) Benjamin Musgrove, Head, Married, 56, Agricultural Labourer, Northumberland, Wallsend, Mary Musgrove, Wife, Married, 53, Durham Stanhope Sarah Musgrove, Daughter, 22, Strawbonnetmaker, Durham Collierley Mary Ann Harrison, Granddaughter, 4, Scholar, Durham Lanchester Joseph Howard, Lodger, 23, Teacher, Durham Shotley Bridge Baptism Wallsend: Benjamin Musgrove 24 Aug 1794 s/o Richard and Mary Musgrove, born Willington Richard was a Pitman Baptism St. John's Chapel: Mary Hogg 28 June 1796 d/o John and Mary Hogg This entry is one of the only ones without a place of birth. She had siblings and here is an entry from her sister Sarah's baptisms in St. John's Chapel parish record: Sarah Hogg born 1 Feb 1799, bapt 13 May 1799 3 rd daughter of John Hogg, Taylor, native of Barnard Castle by his wife Mary Heatherington native of this parish. When brother Cuthbert was born they were living in Westgate, still in the area for St. John's Chapel. Marriage Benjamin Musgrove and Mary Hogg Wolsingham 31 May 1818 Baptisms Lanchester: from IGI Benjamin Musgrove 25 May 1831 Sarah Musgrave 8 Feb 1829 Richard Musgrove 23 Aug 1818 Isabela Musgrove 2 May 1824 Ann Musgrove 24 Dec 1826 Mary Musgrove 1 Feb 1821 1851 census Township of Monk Heselden, South Wingate Colliery, Back Street (HO107/2392/folio 200/pages 48 and 49) Richard Musgrove, Head, married, 31, Coal Miner, Colliery Dikes, Durham Lanchester Margaret Musgrove, Wife, married, 33, Durham Stanhope Benjamin Musgrove, son, 6, Scholar, Durham Coxhoe Joseph Musgrove, son, 4, Scholar, Durham Leadgate Phoebe Ann Musgrove, daughter, 3,Durham Leadgate Michael Musgrove, son, 1, Durham Marley Hill Michael Gardner, father-in-law, widowed, 70, Former Miner, Durham Stanhope Hope this helps, Janis

Benjamin Musgrove b. 24 Aug 1794 d. Jun 1869 (maybe) married Mary Hogg (maybe) kids: Richard b. 1818 Durham Mary b. 1821 Durham Isabella b. 1824 Durahm married John Harrison (1st) & Thomas Perry Ann b. 1826 Durham married John Todd abt 1847 Benjamin b. 1831 Durham Sarah b. 1829 Durham I do not know much about this family above is all I know I tried looking for Richard b. 1818 & Benjamin b 1831 in the 1881 census but had no luck If someone would help lookup census on Richard born 1818 & Benjamin born 1831 Isabella is my 3x grandmother & Thomas Perry my 3x grandfather I'm willing to share what info I have on her I'd appreciate it. Sherry