I wonder if anyone can help me out on any information on Ralph HALL and Mary TURPIN. I know they were married at Kelloe, County Durham in 1850 at the age of 20 and 19.Ralph lived at Cassop Colliery and Mary Coxhoe Hill at the time of marriage. In the 1851 Census it said they were born at Tynemouth Northumberland. This is where I am stuck, so I am wondering if anyone out there can help me out. Thanks in advance. George Robson

Hi A death cert seems to say she died of abduction pregnancy. I can`t find anything about it-can anyone help? best wishes from Isabel Adams

Above the Free passage ad was this one. I think they must have been in the paper in January not Oct. AUSTRALIA.-The well-known Imperial Mail Steamers of the North German Lloyd are despatched regularly every month from Antwerp. The next departure will be the "HABSBURG" 3,094 Tons, 23rd Feb. Third-class Fares to Adelaide, Melbourne, and Sydney....£14.14s Through from Hull and Grimsby. Apply to R. LAWTHER, Choppington, Morpeth, and at 23, Clayton Street, Newcastle; or to KELLER, WALLIS, AND Co., 69 Piccadilly, Manchester.

Above the Free passage ad was this one. I think they must have been in the paper in January not Oct. AUSTRALIA.-The well-known Imperial Mail Steamers of the North German Lloyd are despatched regularly every month from Antwerp. The next departure will be the "HABSBURG" 3,094 Tons, 23rd Feb. Third-class Fares to Adelaide, Melbourne, and Sydney....?14.14s Through from Hull and Grimsby. Apply to R. LAWTHER, Choppington, Morpeth, and at 23, Clayton Street, Newcastle; or to KELLER, WALLIS, AND Co., 69 Piccadilly, Manchester. Margaret.

Hi E (name?) Its quite easy to find any list , go to http://www.rootsweb.com/ Select mailing lists (top bar) and enter Cumbria (or wherever you want) To send to this list send to DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com do you have the correct address? Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Hi, how do i get a message to this group please? i have sent several > messages but they never appear. i have e-mailed Stan but again no reply. i > am confused about this so i decided to mail you since your messages are > getting through. i wanted to know if there was a list for cumbria and have > asked several times but my messages never get on the list - perhaps > someone > will know if you would be kind enough to pass this to the group. many > thanks > in advance > E.

Stephanie: Wow! Thanks so much for allowing us to hear of the outcome, as tragic as it is. I find there is always some sort of truth to a rumour. Amanda www.pitmen.co.uk

Dear list members, Sometimes when I tell someone that my hobby is genealogy, the first question they ask is how far back have you gotten. We who do this never ending puzzle know that is not our main goal. Rather, we like to get to know our ancestors as real people and the more we can find on them and their lives the better. Thanks to many of you on this list I just hit a big pay load. A few weeks ago I wrote to you asking advice on how to locate an old newspaper for a train accident. The family story was that my great-grandfather had gone back to Durham from the USA for a visit. He was a coal miner and a bit of a drinker, gambler and fighter. It was passed down that while there he was drinking and tried to beat a train with a buggy and lost. Now, I always wondered if this was just a convenient story to loose a wife and five kids. So I sent for his death certificate and learned he indeed did die from schock after being run over by a train. Of course that lead to really wanting the details. Thanks to your leading me to the British Library, I just received two articles on the accident. It seems he went home for a Christmas visit to surprise his mother who lived in Crook (great info-not only was she still living but the exact place). He arrived from Liverpool to Bishop Auckland and had an hour wait for the train to Crook. He spent it at the local pub at which he stayed too long and missed the train. He did go to the station which was closing as the last train had left and the porter and his wife were putting out the lights. He fell off the dark platform and must of passed out with his arm over the rail and a cattle train came by and cut his arm off near the shoulder. The porter's wife heard someone yell for a doctor who they called and they moved him to the workhouse (? what that is) and three doctors removed his shoulder joint the next day at the workhouse. Ouch! This was Dec. 1873. He rallied at first and then sank and died on the third day. He was visited several times by a sister and brother who lived in the area(also good to know). Very sad story but what a treasure! Like so many deaths of the time, he probably wouldn't have died from that today. He would have lost his arm and retired on disability. How lucky are we to live today even though the newspapers today are filled with so much sadness. What a New Years my great-grandmother must have had when she got that news. She had five kids ages 1-13 with all her family back in Durham. She did stay though and toughed it out. The five kids all grew to be adults and said she was a great mom. Thanks again for your help in acquiring this great piece of family information that makes my tree swell with reality. Stephanie Schickinger

Mike, Stan and Cliff- Thank you for giving me some pointers on Durham (and UK) research. I'll be getting busy this evening checking out those websites that you suggested. I really appreciate your guidance. Now, off to finding young Mary Ann Scott somewhere in County Durham! Lorie (New Jersey, USA)

Hi Could it say adduction? Dont know what this means but the word comes up when googling abduction pregnancy. Something to do with hip movement? Carol

Hi Choose the Cumberland one- the old name for Cumbria, its as good as this list:) carol

Hi Margaret, A big thank you for the death notices and they do belong to our family. I am very grateful to you and others like you who take the time to help us folks who can't get to the other side of the pond to do our own legwork. The Internet is great, but you can't always find what you're looking for. Thanks again and have a great day. Liz USA

Hi, I've been meaning to ask if anyone can help me find a little more about one of my great grandmother's. It is her life after her second marriage that I'm interested in. Noone in the family has any knowledge of her after 1900 or so. This is what I know. Her name was Mary Ann Hirst and she was born 19.7.1856 in Newcastle upon Tyne and was the eldest child of John Hirst and Sarah Ann Slane. She married my great grandfather Thomas Gornall 7.7.1873 at St.Mary's Catholic Church in Newcastle. She had 7 children in Newcastle and later at Snow's Green near Shotley Bridge. Her husband Thomas died at Snows Green in 1889. By 1901 she had moved the family back to Newcastle and was then livivng in Grey Street. She was living next door to her sister and brother in law. They were William Walton and Sarah Hirst who had married in 1878. They named one of their children Thomas Gornall Walton in memory of my great granfather. By 1907 Sarah Walton had died and my great gramndma married William Walton her dead sister's husband. They married 19.10.1907. William walton was the son of James Walton and was living in Napier Street at the time of the marriage. Mary Ann Gornall was living at 72 Grey Street. I'd like to know something about her after this marriage. Can anyone help?? Yours John Ayton _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail, News, Sport and Entertainment from MSN on your mobile. http://www.msn.txt4content.com/

In a message dated 03/02/2007 23:04:17 GMT Standard Time, forstorbeck@worldnet.att.net writes: I am totally unfamiliar with places and distances in England. I'm hoping that some one will be able to tell me if two locations are the same place or near each other at all. My question is: Is Sedgefield, Durham the same as or near Spennymoor, Durham? _______________________________________________________________________ See the Ordnance Survey Gazetteer http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/freefun/didyouknow/ or Durham Online Mapping http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/usp.nsf/pws/gis+-+online+mapping Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi Lorie No they are not the same places, but not VERY far from each other. A useful introduction to British genealogy is the web site: www.genuki.org.uk Check out the Durham parishes of Sedgefield & Whitworth for information re: these 2 places. Also, you could look up a modern map on www.multimap.co.uk and search for the places - giving you a better idea of how close they are (or not!). Without any other information to support it, I wouldn't automatically assume that the 2 Mary's are the same. Hope this helps Mike > I am totally unfamiliar with places and distances in England. I'm hoping > that some one will be able to tell me if two locations are the same place > or > near each other at all. My question is: Is Sedgefield, Durham the same > as > or near Spennymoor, Durham?

Hi List I am trying to locate a death entry for Richard Humble pre registration. If he was killed in a mine disaster in Jarrow,and say his body was not recovered, would there be a death record anywhere? Maureen in Oz

Dear Susan, Unfortunately no, as far as I have researched I have no link with your CAWTHORNE at all and I have the birth, marriage and death certificates of my family back before the late 1800s. I believe you are wishful thinking if you believe CAWTHORN/E is an unusual name it is surprisingly numerous both in Durham, Northumberland, Yorkshire and Cambridgeshire areas,. My husbands name of BLEAY now that is what I call reasonably rare as all 20 ish families currently living are all related and what is more there was a long period when they didn't move about at all. Guess which name I started researching? Rarety does indeed make life a lot easier. Best of luck with your research Judy Bleay Cornwall -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.17/661 - Release Date: 30 Jan 2007 23:30

Hello list- I am totally unfamiliar with places and distances in England. I'm hoping that some one will be able to tell me if two locations are the same place or near each other at all. My question is: Is Sedgefield, Durham the same as or near Spennymoor, Durham? Why I'd like to know: I am looking for information on Mary Ann SCOTT (born about 4 April 1835 in Durham, England) and any of her family members. She is our GG Grandmother. --I know that Mary Ann's father was William SCOTT (per her death certificate 14 Dec. 1913 in Michigan, USA) --I know that Mary Ann Scott married William STOKOE about 1860. --Mary Ann some times went by the name Ann. --Ann Scott STOKOE is shown in the 1871 England Census: Linthorpe, Yorkshire (But her place of birth is not legible. It looks like either NK or WC to me!) --I know that Ann Scott STOKOE was born in Spenny Moor (per the 1881 British Census: Skelton In Guisbrough, York) Then I looked in the 1851 England Census for Mary Ann as a child age 15. I found a family with the head of household, William Scott. But, the 1851 Census (Wolsingham, Durham) shows that this particular Mary Ann SCOTT was born in Sedgefield. Can anyone help me determine if these two Mary Ann Scotts born in Sedgefield and Spennymoor could be one and the same? Thanks for any assistance. Lorie (New Jersey, USA)

Hi I would be grateful if SKS with access to the 1891 Census could look up the following family please:- In the 1881 Census they are shown as John McNaughton b. 1840 in Middlesbrough. Jane (nee Wanless) b. 1839 in Wallsend. John McNaughton b. 1867 in Guisborough Thomas McNaughton b. 1873 in Wallsend George McNaughton b. 1868 in Newcastle. The entry is RG11, Piece 5068, Folio 83, Page no 26. They were living in Byker, Northumberland at the time of the Census. They appear in the 1901 Census but Thomas' DOB has changed to 1877. With the info from the 1891 Census I'm hoping that I can determine the reason for the age difference i.e. is it an entry mistake or did the first Thomas die and then another son was named Thomas. Kind regards Gareth McNaughton Email :- <mailto:mcnaugg@absamail.co.za> mcnaugg@absamail.co.za

Hi Judy As Cawthorne is such an unusual name could I ask if you are related to the William Cawthorne who married my gt grandmother, Annie Devine in 1918? Her maiden name was Calhoun sometimes recorded as Colquhoun. They lived in Seaham, County Durham. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Bleay" <judybleay@btinternet.com> To: "DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb. com " <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 11:36 AM Subject: [DUR-NBL] CAWTHORN / CAWTHORNE brick wall > Dear Janis, > > Thanks for the reply, I cannot answer for the dual entry into IGI. > Perhaps > information was given by 2 people and they each had a different view of > where the christening event happened. In my ignorance can I ask the > proximity of Ebchester and Medomsley? > > Judy Bleay

Dear Janis, Thanks for the reply, I cannot answer for the dual entry into IGI. Perhaps information was given by 2 people and they each had a different view of where the christening event happened. In my ignorance can I ask the proximity of Ebchester and Medomsley? Judy Bleay Cornwall -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.17/661 - Release Date: 30 Jan 2007 23:30