Hello, I was wondering if anyone might have access to the Haltwhistle monumental inscriptions. I am looking for a William HENDERSON who died 12 Jun 1928. His funeral card says he was buried at Haltwhistle Cemetery 15 Jun 1928. Thank you Sally

Hi, I wonder if anybody can help me solve a mystery. I detail below matrix of the 1851 to 1871 census returns for my past family:- Newfield 1851 Census - Byers Green - Seldom Seen William Brown Head 29 Coalminer Bedfordshire Mary Brown (mn ?) Wife 28 Durham Mary Brown Daughter 11 Durham Thomas Brown Son 2 Durham Helmington Row 1861 Census - Bowden Close William Brown Head 38 Coalminer Elstow Bedfordshire Mary Brown (mn ?) Wife 38 Stanhope Durham Maria Brown Daughter 14 Wolsingham Durham Thomas Brown Son 12 Wolsingham Durham William Brown Son 9 Scholar Seldom Seen Durham James Brown Son 4 Scholar Bowden Close Durham Sarah Brown Daughter 2 Bowden Close Durham Tudhoe 1871 Census - Mount Pleasant, 37 Pit Row William Brown Head 55 Coalminer Elstow Bedfordshire Mary Brown (mn ?) Wife 49 Stanhope Durham Thomas Brown Son 23 Coalminer Wolsingham Durham William Brown Son 20 Coalminer Seldom Seen Durham James Brown Son 15 Bowden Close Durham Sarah Brown Daughter 13 Servant Bowden Close Durham Mary Brown Daughter 8 Scholar Fylands Bridge Durham My queries are:- 1) Is Mary (1851) and Maria (1861) one of the same person and has her age been recorded incorrectly. Although it is quite clear on the 1851 census return as 11. 2) If they are different people, where was Maria in 1851 3) The marriage of William and Mary has got me stumped - the 1851 & 1861 census make William's birth year c.1822 whilst 1871 gives him a birth year c.1816. There is a marriage of a William Brown recorded in the second quarter of 1840 in Auckland. Am awaiting receipt of the Marriage Certificate. Finally, does anybody know of a photograph of the row of houses known as "Seldom Seen", the family home at the time of the 1851 census. I have managed to trace and follow the demise on old maps but a photo to go into the album would be great especially as this might be the first Brown family connection with the area. Thanks in anticipation Geoff

I have a address:Allan Brothers&Company,James Street,Liverpool.This is a picture of my great grand parents with the above address on the back.Does anyone know if this company still is in business? Bill.

many thanks to Margaret Fuller,[Hall] Boris [Neil]Atterby and John and all who helped me immensely with this best wishes from Isabel Adams

thank you Jackie Although I know her name she could be one of several so I need to work out the fashions at the time best wishes from Isabel Adams ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jbeljones@aol.com> To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 92 > > In a message dated 3/12/2007 12:11:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dur-nbl-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > possible to trace or define the age of photographs > > > > I know nothing about the photographer in question. > My problem: I had an unidentified photograph from my mother's side of > the > family. > I called the local college, talked to someone in the photography > department > explaining my problem. He asked me to describe my photograph, which was > a > tine type. The women had a type of broach that looked gold which the > individual identified the picture as an amber type produced only in a > ten year > period. From this I was able to identify my great grandparents. > This was in the USA. > Regards, > Jackie Southern California > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 3/12/2007 12:11:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dur-nbl-request@rootsweb.com writes: possible to trace or define the age of photographs I know nothing about the photographer in question. My problem: I had an unidentified photograph from my mother's side of the family. I called the local college, talked to someone in the photography department explaining my problem. He asked me to describe my photograph, which was a tine type. The women had a type of broach that looked gold which the individual identified the picture as an amber type produced only in a ten year period. From this I was able to identify my great grandparents. This was in the USA. Regards, Jackie Southern California <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

We are missing Nathaniel Birkett MAIN in the 1891 Census. Any suggestions on how to find him? We have done extensive search using the indexes on ancestry.co.uk to no avail .. Despite searching known mis-transcriptions and for any Nathaniel born Gateshead His wife is alive and listed as married in the 1891 Census at 11 Seymour Terrace RG 12/4172 F6 P 6 He is with her in both the 1881 Census in Bewick Road and 1901 Census at 22 Taylor Terrace. He was born in Gateshead in 1844 and lives in Gateshead all his life. Up to 1881 he was a 'coal agent' and in 1901 an Ironmongers Clerk. Robin Ps we are doing a search for all MAIN descendants of William MAIN (or MEIN) and Margaret HEWITT who came from Scotland to Tyneside about 1830. Large families and many of the local MAIN's connect one way or another. -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland

Hi I spoke some time ago on this list to a descendant of Mr Heaviside the photographer in Durham city. I need to know between which years he was in business and whether it is possible to trace or define the age of photographs best wishes from Isabel Adams

Hi, Having read Pat and Geoff `s e-mails ,I think both have a point I my self did two courses on family tree and local history But that does not make me a professional we all need help as we go along in our research (things change new out lets to find what we are looking for )that we have no idea have come along over the years . I my self have learnt a great deal from others e-mails and interesting decisions Genealogy,is a game of hide and seek ` I do think Geoff needs to have a bit of patience as regard other people not knowing as much as he does ,he is a professional and no one on this site is asking him to research for nothing ,no one puts a gun to his head to answer the questions posed We all learn from each other . Doris

Hello All, I've recently discovered that my 2xgreat-grandfather Andrew McCAFFREY (born 1867, Armagh, Ireland) was married twice. Daft devil here didn't read his wife's name on the 1891 census and it wasn't until I was rechecking some information that I realised he married 10 years after the eldest child was born and had a further 2 before he married - duh!!! The eldest child Margaret Elizabeth McCAFFREY (born 1889, Felling, Co. Durham) was my great-grandmother. Luckily I hadn't done much else with this family so wasn't on a wild goose chase up the wrong family line - and ordered her birth certificate which confirmed I'd got it wrong. Anyway as a result of my discovery I've determined that Andrew married Mary TURNBULL (born 1871, Eckford, Roxburghshire, Scotland) on 21st April 1888 at St. Marys Church Heworth, Co. Durham. His father was Owen McCAFFREY who was a Labourer and her father was Richard TURNBULL a joiner. They were both resident at Heworth Colliery - which I believe is/was a small colliery village. Using ancestry and the IGI I've discovered the following: Mary (mentioned above) according to the IGI was born Mary Allan Johnston TURNBULL and was born on 18 May 1871 in Eckford. Her parents were Richard TURNBULL born 1847, Morebattle, Roxburghshire and Elizabeth CLINTON (born c.1847). They married in 1871 also Eckford. Mary had 3 sisters Isabella (c.1874), Agnes (c.1876) and Elizabeth (c.1879). Apart from Mary all the children were born in Co. Durham. Richard TURNBULLs parents were Richard TURNBULL born c.1814, England (he was a shepherd) and Isabella HALL born 1816 in (I think) Hawick, Roxburghshire. They had Isabella (1843), Margaret (1845), Richard (already mentioned), Agnes (1849) all born Morebattle. Also, Elizabeth (c.1853), Janet (1856), William (1858), Robert (1860) and Mary (1863). I'd love to hear from anyone who has connections to the above. I'm especially interested to know if anyone can pinpoint where the elder Richard TURNBULL was born, I'm guessing probably Co. Durham/Northumberland area due to the proximity to the scottish borders. I would also be very appreciative if someone could look up the families on the 1871 & 1901 Scottish census indexes which appeared the week after my subscription expired. With Regards Karen West Yorkshire P.S. I've posted on few lists so apologies if you get this more than once.

Thanks to all who replied with you ideas and help. Ralph -----Original Message----- From: dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of dur-nbl-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2007 7:02 PM To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com Subject: DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 88 Administrivia: To unsubscribe from DUR-NBL-D, send a message to DUR-NBL-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the DUR-NBL-D list administrator, send mail to DUR-NBL-admin@rootsweb.com. Today's Topics: 1. Re: how to trace this person (Jenny De Angelis) 2. How To Trace This Person (Glenys Rasmussen) 3. John McKay - Baker (Net Ambler) 4. Re: John McKay - Baker (BrianGenealogy) 5. Ancestry of the peoples of the British Isles (HELEN POMAKOY) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:13:49 +0100 From: "Jenny De Angelis" <jennyda@telefonica.net> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] how to trace this person To: "Ralph Temperley" <jtemperl@bigpond.net.au>, "DUR-NBL" <DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <00bf01c75ff9$abb1cc40$0301a8c0@portable> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original If it was me I would contact the GRO at Southport using one of the contact addresses on their website and ask them to help, it is after all their index that is at fault and illegible. Give them the details you have found and explain that you can't read the Registration District name nor the volume or page numbers. http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ I did this once when I could not make out the volume and page numbers for a death reg. though I could read the district name on the entry I found in the GRO index. It is worth an e.mail to them to see what they can do to help. You will get an automated reply to begin with and will need to respond to it to get through to them and get a proper response, follow the instructions in that automated reply. Where do you think your Mark Winter would have been born? I searched the 1851 for Mark Winter born 2 yrs either side of 1849 and left blank the bodxed for the birth place and place of abode but couldn't turn up a single entry with that name and that span of years anywhere in England. What do you think his parents name would have been? perhaps we can track him through his parents and where they were from? Where would you expect them to be living in the censuses, which county? Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Temperley" <jtemperl@bigpond.net.au> To: "DUR-NBL" <DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 9:35 AM Subject: [DUR-NBL] how to trace this person > >From Free Bdm > > Surname First name(s) District Vol Page > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > Births Sep 1849 (>99%) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > WINTER Mark * * * > > This person. Where was he born? The immage from Free Bdm is unreadable. > Thanking you in advance for any help > Ralph from Down under in Oz. > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:35:21 -0700 From: Glenys Rasmussen <glenysjr@clearwire.net> Subject: [DUR-NBL] How To Trace This Person To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <45EDB469.8050500@clearwire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ralph: The 1851 Census of St. George Hanover Square, District 7, p9, HO107/1475, 11 Gilbert St., shows the following family: Wm. Winter Head Mar 32 Tailor Journeyman Middlesex, St. Giles Mary Ann Winter Wife Mar 30 Middlesex, St. Marylebone Kate Winter Dau Unm 4 Middlesex, St. Georges Mark Winter Son Unm 1 Middlesex, St. Georges Hope this is helpful. Glenys -- Glenys Rasmussen http://www.quietAcre.com DFHS #14237 CFHS #15279 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:02:27 -0000 From: "Net Ambler" <net.ambler@btinternet.com> Subject: [DUR-NBL] John McKay - Baker To: "'DUR-NBL'" <DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <200703062002.l26K2aeI011216@mail.rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Listers I have received a copy of a birth certificate in the post today and I am trying to find out a bit more information about the family. The certificate is for John Douglas McKay born on 7 Jan 1839 in what looks like Grainger Street in the sub district of St Andrew in Newcastle upon Tyne. His parents are John McKay and Elizabeth McKay formerly Hope (or Cope, it's not clear!). John senior is listed as a Baker. I'm trying to find their marriage or any other information about this family. They are very elusive on the 1841 census and I've tried the LDS site for a marriage. Perhaps someone more experienced than me will have more luck. Thanks in advance Net ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:41:07 -0000 From: "BrianGenealogy" <genealogy@leggtronix.e7even.com> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] John McKay - Baker To: "Net Ambler" <net.ambler@btinternet.com> Cc: DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <01ad01c7602f$e3cbc460$6401a8c0@Master> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Net - "formerly Hope (or Cope, it's not clear!)." If the certificate is a copy it should be clear. Send it back and ask for a better/clarified copy. Cheers - Brian LEGG in Coventry, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Net Ambler" <net.ambler@btinternet.com> To: "'DUR-NBL'" <DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:02 PM Subject: [DUR-NBL] John McKay - Baker > Dear Listers > I have received a copy of a birth certificate in the post today and I am > trying to find out a bit more information about the family. > > The certificate is for John Douglas McKay born on 7 Jan 1839 in what looks > like Grainger Street in the sub district of St Andrew in Newcastle upon > Tyne. > > His parents are John McKay and Elizabeth McKay formerly Hope (or Cope, > it's > not clear!). John senior is listed as a Baker. > > I'm trying to find their marriage or any other information about this > family. They are very elusive on the 1841 census and I've tried the LDS > site > for a marriage. Perhaps someone more experienced than me will have more > luck. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Net > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 19:27:03 -0800 (PST) From: HELEN POMAKOY <pomakoy@prodigy.net> Subject: [DUR-NBL] Ancestry of the peoples of the British Isles To: LIST DURHAM <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <606234.51134.qm@web81909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 For those with English, Irish, scot, etc ancestry and those interested in deep genealogy http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/03/05/news/web.0305BRITS.full.php Link was posted on another list I subscribe to. Helen Suddes Pomakoy Champaign, Illinois researching: SUDDES, HUTCHINSON, ENGLISH ------------------------------ To contact the DUR-NBL list administrator, send an email to DUR-NBL-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Resending just in case any one new needs them I also have a MC for a James LIDDLE and Mary Jane WALTON. Jacqui _____ Here are the details. If anyone needs them I am able to scan and send a copy offline. Where and when born: 24/7/1886 - 186 Moker Ave, Monkwearmouth Childs name: James LIDDLE Fathers name: William LIDDLE Occupation : BUTCHER Mothers name: Margaret Ann LIDDLE (nee Henderson) Informant/address: M.A.LIDDLE (mother), 186 Moker Ave, Monkwearmouth Registration district – Sunderland, Sub-district – Monkwearmouth, County of Durham *************** Where and when born: 28/10/1886 – South Newsham, Blyth Childs name: James LIDDLE Fathers name: John LIDDLE Occupation : COAL MINER Mothers name: Jane LIDDLE (nee Humble) Informant/address: John LIDDLE (father), South Newsham, Blyth Registration district – Tyenmouth, Sub-district – Blyth, County of Durham -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/712 - Release Date: 6/03/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/712 - Release Date: 6/03/2007

Hi Net - "formerly Hope (or Cope, it's not clear!)." If the certificate is a copy it should be clear. Send it back and ask for a better/clarified copy. Cheers - Brian LEGG in Coventry, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Net Ambler" <net.ambler@btinternet.com> To: "'DUR-NBL'" <DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:02 PM Subject: [DUR-NBL] John McKay - Baker > Dear Listers > I have received a copy of a birth certificate in the post today and I am > trying to find out a bit more information about the family. > > The certificate is for John Douglas McKay born on 7 Jan 1839 in what looks > like Grainger Street in the sub district of St Andrew in Newcastle upon > Tyne. > > His parents are John McKay and Elizabeth McKay formerly Hope (or Cope, > it's > not clear!). John senior is listed as a Baker. > > I'm trying to find their marriage or any other information about this > family. They are very elusive on the 1841 census and I've tried the LDS > site > for a marriage. Perhaps someone more experienced than me will have more > luck. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Net >

Dear Listers I have received a copy of a birth certificate in the post today and I am trying to find out a bit more information about the family. The certificate is for John Douglas McKay born on 7 Jan 1839 in what looks like Grainger Street in the sub district of St Andrew in Newcastle upon Tyne. His parents are John McKay and Elizabeth McKay formerly Hope (or Cope, it's not clear!). John senior is listed as a Baker. I'm trying to find their marriage or any other information about this family. They are very elusive on the 1841 census and I've tried the LDS site for a marriage. Perhaps someone more experienced than me will have more luck. Thanks in advance Net

For those with English, Irish, scot, etc ancestry and those interested in deep genealogy http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/03/05/news/web.0305BRITS.full.php Link was posted on another list I subscribe to. Helen Suddes Pomakoy Champaign, Illinois researching: SUDDES, HUTCHINSON, ENGLISH

If it was me I would contact the GRO at Southport using one of the contact addresses on their website and ask them to help, it is after all their index that is at fault and illegible. Give them the details you have found and explain that you can't read the Registration District name nor the volume or page numbers. http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ I did this once when I could not make out the volume and page numbers for a death reg. though I could read the district name on the entry I found in the GRO index. It is worth an e.mail to them to see what they can do to help. You will get an automated reply to begin with and will need to respond to it to get through to them and get a proper response, follow the instructions in that automated reply. Where do you think your Mark Winter would have been born? I searched the 1851 for Mark Winter born 2 yrs either side of 1849 and left blank the bodxed for the birth place and place of abode but couldn't turn up a single entry with that name and that span of years anywhere in England. What do you think his parents name would have been? perhaps we can track him through his parents and where they were from? Where would you expect them to be living in the censuses, which county? Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Temperley" <jtemperl@bigpond.net.au> To: "DUR-NBL" <DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 9:35 AM Subject: [DUR-NBL] how to trace this person > >From Free Bdm > > Surname First name(s) District Vol Page > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > Births Sep 1849 (>99%) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > WINTER Mark * * * > > This person. Where was he born? The immage from Free Bdm is unreadable. > Thanking you in advance for any help > Ralph from Down under in Oz. > > > >

Ralph: The 1851 Census of St. George Hanover Square, District 7, p9, HO107/1475, 11 Gilbert St., shows the following family: Wm. Winter Head Mar 32 Tailor Journeyman Middlesex, St. Giles Mary Ann Winter Wife Mar 30 Middlesex, St. Marylebone Kate Winter Dau Unm 4 Middlesex, St. Georges Mark Winter Son Unm 1 Middlesex, St. Georges Hope this is helpful. Glenys -- Glenys Rasmussen http://www.quietAcre.com DFHS #14237 CFHS #15279

Hi Ralph, Just had a look on 'The Genealogist' web site - it isn't much better, However there were some clues. The first part of the registration district is 'Geo' & it end in 'Sq' So the registration district is 'St George Hanover Square' which is variously abbreviated. If you enter this into FreeBMD with the options of 1849 Births & the Vol no. 1 page 36. It is valid! So I conclude that the entry does read: WINTER, Mark, Geo St Han Sq I 36 Regards Sally

Hi Neil, I looked on the free part of Ancestry BMD and I couldnt make out the registration district either - it was too faint. I had thought that the Volume was I, but my sight is not as good as it used to be, so it sounds as if I'm wrong. :-) It is a hard entry to read isnt it! Ralph didnt give us any other information about him. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil MacDonald To: Durham/Northumberland Mailing List Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] how to trace this person Jan I don't think the Volume is I. I looked on Ancestry, which has a lower-contrast image. There is a vertical stroke, but there are 'header' and 'footer' strokes extending well to the right suggesting at least one other character. However that is completely blank. The registration district seems to be quite a long word, but is indecipherable. Has Ralph no other information - census, parents etc? I couldn't myself find him in 1851, or any death in 1849-1851. Neil --- markandjanboyes <markandjanboyes@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hi Ralph, > Like you, I was unable to read the place where Mark > was registered, but I did read that the Reference > no. was I, which is the registration district for > London and Middlesex. > Here is a link for you which has the information on. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/civreg/GROIndexes.html > > Jan > > >From Free Bdm > > Surname First name(s) District Vol Page > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > Births Sep 1849 (>99%) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > WINTER Mark * * * > > This person. Where was he born? The immage from > Free Bdm is unreadable. > Thanking you in advance for any help > Ralph from Down under in Oz.

>From Free Bdm Surname First name(s) District Vol Page ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Births Sep 1849 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- WINTER Mark * * * This person. Where was he born? The immage from Free Bdm is unreadable. Thanking you in advance for any help Ralph from Down under in Oz.