Hello List, Please could some kind soul look up a death in the paper for CAMPBELL, Jane Dixon 12 Jun 1902 Jarrow I would like to know who her parents were please also if she was married who her husband was please. Thank you in advance for any information I might receive. Kind Regards Pamela J Groves

Hi Russell, thanks for your reply... The answer to your request for more information as follows. 1...I have not seen the attestation papers, I received the information second hand 2...Emily's parents were... James Robinson born 1 Jun 1823 Lane House, Ulverston, died 17 Apr 1888 Cockermouth Mary Fleming born11 Jul 1816 Rydal, Loughrigg, Westmorland, . They married on 30 Apr 1850 in the Parish of Grasmere, Rydal. Children of these were Charles, Emily, Flemming, Richard. I don't know if Charles had any brothers or sisters. Do you know where I can see records for the Scotland side of the Cheviot Hills? I know it's not much to go on, I appreciate any help/ideas I can get...Regards...Shaun

In a message dated 01/04/2007 05:07:48 GMT Daylight Time, crhayes@andlau.com writes: Which Directory is it that you're looking at? ______________________________________________ Hi Ralph, Digital Library of Historical Directories http://www.historicaldirectories.org/ Regards Stan Mapstone

I am researching the above surname because my Gt. Grandmother was Leah HETHERINGTON born at Cross Dyke Allendale the daughter of Joseph Hetherington and his wife Jane BROWN. Joseph and Jane married at Allendale in 1813 and lived at Coalcleugh to begin with having 2 or 3 of their elder children born there. They then loved to Cross Dyke, Carrshield area where the rest of their children were born. Daughter Leah had a twin sister Lucy and they were baptised in 1833 at West Allen High Chapel. Lucy eventually emigrated to Australia while Leah married first in 1856 to Thomas CLEMENTSON a lead miner, they had two children William and Joseph Albert. Thomas died in 1859 and Leah married again in June 1861 to John STOBBS. Leah and JOhn Stobbs had two children John Thomas and Elizabeth Jane. John died in 1868 and Leah married for the 3rd and last time later that same year to Edwin HIRST of Yorkshire. They lived for a time in the Middlesbrough area and had one children Annie. Then they moved to Hartlepool where Edwin died in 1878. Leah died in 1903. I have been in touch with one line of descendants of Joseph Albert Clementson and his wife Coatses Armstrong, and my father used to talk about his Auntie Lizzie and her husband George Sanderson. But I know nothing of Leah's eldest son William Clementson and have lost him after the 1881 census entry for him and his wife Frances Dunning. I have been given the name of someone called Gordon, poss. Sanderson, by a cousin of mine who says I met Gordon in the 1950s when I was on a visit to Co. Durham and my cousins and aunties there. Gordon was apparently either a son or grandson of Elizabeth Stobbs and her husband George Sanderson, I think grandson is more likely, but I can find no trace of such a person. I would like to know who this person was. I have a fair bit of information on all of the people concerned in the above details and would like to hear from anyone else interested in any of the above names. I have seen on genesreunited that someone else has an interest in Hetheringtons at Cross Dyke but I do not subscribe to the site and therefore can get no further than searching the name index. But it shows that there is someone out there that must match up with me in some way. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain.

Thank you for that Stan. Which Directory is it that you're looking at? In fact, several years ago, it was you who shed light on the "sword cane" I have, explaining its use by customs officials. Unfortunately, the certainty of Samuel Hayes being a tailor, leaves me in a further quandary about this cane that is dated 1849 and has his name and HM Customs on it. Oh well, back to the records. There will be an answer to this mystery somewhere. Thank you again Stan. Kind regards ... Ralph > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:39:58 EDT > From: Stanmapstone@aol.com > Subject: [DUR-NBL] Samuel Hayes > To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cd9.dfcb852.333e18ce@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > In a message dated 29/03/2007 16:29:16 GMT Daylight Time, crhayes@andlau.com > writes: > I have had one email from a subscriber who suggested that his > occupation might be 'sailor' but, on checking the three originals I have > access to, the word is clearly 'tailor'. > ____________________________________________________________________ > Hi Ralph, > He is listed in the 1851 Directory as a Tailor, always worth double checking > (:- )) > > Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi All re datal worker- although not my query originally I appreciate the replies also. Stans description "Those below ground were mostly employed in constructional and repair work, timbering, roofing, laying roadways, clearing away debris, etc." fits what my dad explained he did. He said he left svhool on the friday aged 14 and went for a job at the pit where he started on the monday- for the first year you were above ground then went underground where you did various jobs till you were considered OK to be a hewer. Carol

Hi Carol According to my Dictionary of old Trades, Titles and Occupations by Colin Waters, a Dataller, dateller,Day labourer, Day Teller Day Tale man and other similar name is a Casual worker in various industries Regards Pat Williams Bruton Somerset > -----Original Message----- > From: dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Carolgriff@aol.com > Sent: 31 March 2007 10:26 > To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker > > Hi > > My dad is shown to be a datal worker on the durham mining museum site- when > he was 16 in 1947- he says its because they were treated as being just paid by > the day rather than the hewers etc who were constantly employed but Id be > grateful if someone could give a better description as im not really sure what > he means. > > carol > > > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: 30/03/2007 13:15 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: 30/03/2007 13:15

Hi All, Can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between a DATAL worker and a FACE worker in the coal mines. Kind Regards Terry

Hi folks, I am trying to find birth details of Charles Hunt (maybe the name Henry is also used). >From his attestation papers, if the information he gave was true, he would have been born on the 18 July 1833 and his parents would have been John and Ann. Family story has be being born in the "Cheviot Hills", there is also a belief that he had connections in the Grasmere area. He married Emily Robinson born 9 Sept 1851 in Grasmere. ( they married in Canada) Charles worked in Canada as a Miner. Anyone any ideas as to how I may make progress with finding his birth or anything about his parents. Hope you can help...Regards...Shaun

Those below ground were mostly employed in constructional and repair work, timbering, roofing, laying roadways, clearing away debris, etc. Regards Stan Mapstone

O.E.D., day-taler, dataller, day + reckoning, 1530. Men employed on a day-rate of pay, a 'byeworker'. 'datal-work', 'day work', 'day wage work'. Any work carried out which was not directly involved with the production of coal. 'Contract work'. Work of a general nature. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi My dad is shown to be a datal worker on the durham mining museum site- when he was 16 in 1947- he says its because they were treated as being just paid by the day rather than the hewers etc who were constantly employed but Id be grateful if someone could give a better description as im not really sure what he means. carol

Hi Ian, Sorry but your LOWERY family is not connected to mine. Your dates don't tie in nor the areas of Newcastle or Hartlepool . All of mine come from Great Lumley or Houghton le Spring. Wish I could help. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian White" <iwhite99@rogers.com> To: <DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: [DUR-NBL] LOWERY / LOWREY > Diane Lowery posted a message about LOWERY in the 1871 > census. Does she or anyone else have any connections > to Robert LOWREY (1878 to 1910). Wife was Elizabeth > (nee BULMER), and children were Robert (1907 to 1990) > and Florence (1910 to 1989). The family was mainly > associated with the Byker area of Newcastle, except > Elizabeth who was from Hartlepool. There were other > LOWERY / LOWREY families in or near Byker at about the > same time, and I don't know whether or not they were > related. Any information about any of them would be > appreciated. > Many Thanks, Ian White > > > > Member: British Isles Family History Society of Greater Ottawa, Canada. > > > > > > >

Many thanks to Stan and Joe Taylor for taking trouble to send some conclusions on MAULE family suicides. I can cross some areas of research off my list thanks to you. Judy McCracken in Auckland NZ

Can some kind person tell me what an " Extra Tide-waiters" was. Ralph

Hello Fred Faulkner of Victoria Australia. Did you find where your grand mother Elizabeth PIPE was buried? I gather she was wife of descendant of Austrey WAR PIPE family. I remember being in touch with you some years ago. My GRIMLEY family came from Austrey and Appleby Magna LEI. I enjoyed researching all those families in Austrey. Good to see your messages again. I also have Tynemouth family who came to Sydney NSW in 1832. Judy McCracken in Auckland NZ

Hi Ian According to Paul Joannou's book "The Black and White Alphabet", thegoalkeeper between 1893 and 1895 was W. LOWERY, there is a photograph ofhim, but it only notes that he was 5 ft 10 ins, born on Tyneside. and "was apopular local sportsman". Hopefully the "W" initial might narrow it downfor you. CheersPat > -----Original Message-----> From: dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Ian White> Sent: 30 March 2007 03:02> To: DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DUR-NBL] LOWERY / LOWREY - NUFC (the Magpies / the Toon)> > > Newcastle United F.C. were formed in 1891 by an> amalgamation of a team from the West end of Newcastle> and one from the East end (mainly Byker). Their first> season was at St. James' Park in 1892. In that first> season their goalkeeper was a LOWREY from the East> end, but there were several LOWREYs from that area who> were of about the right age to be on the team. Does> anyone know his full name and family relationships> such as parents, family and descendants ?> Thanks, Ian White.> > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1885 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len -- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 29/03/200713:36

A Tide-waiter was a customs officer who awaited the arrival of ships (formerly coming in with the tide), and boarded them to prevent evasion of the custom-house regulations. An Extra Tide-Waiter was a part time Tide-Waiter Extra Tide-waiters were not constantly employed they were liable to be called upon to act as tide-waiters whenever there may be occasion for their services, and they were paid by the job. They were bound to obey the call, and to leave any other business they may have had in hand at the time. Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 29/03/2007 16:29:16 GMT Daylight Time, crhayes@andlau.com writes: I have had one email from a subscriber who suggested that his occupation might be 'sailor' but, on checking the three originals I have access to, the word is clearly 'tailor'. ____________________________________________________________________ Hi Ralph, He is listed in the 1851 Directory as a Tailor, always worth double checking (:- )) Regards Stan Mapstone

Newcastle United F.C. were formed in 1891 by an amalgamation of a team from the West end of Newcastle and one from the East end (mainly Byker). Their first season was at St. James' Park in 1892. In that first season their goalkeeper was a LOWREY from the East end, but there were several LOWREYs from that area who were of about the right age to be on the team. Does anyone know his full name and family relationships such as parents, family and descendants ? Thanks, Ian White. Member: British Isles Family History Society of Greater Ottawa, Canada.