In message <cce.b725883.3343ba4d@aol.com>, PUTMAN914@aol.com writes >Hi to everyone, > >I was just wondering if anyone out there, could let me know if they have >heard of a Stenry Street or Henry Street in South Shields. > >Regards >Karen > Hi Karen, There was a Henry Street in S. Shields in 1910 (Kelly's Directory) and there still is a Henry Street in S. Shields. Regards, -- Helen Oram

In the 1881 Census Letch Pit was at East Rainton. Regards Stan Mapstone

There is an easy way to check an address. Go to _http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk/_ (http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk/) select "Address search - find out who lived in your house in 1901" and put in the name of the street only, do not put 'street', and then South Shields. You will get no results for "Stenry" as expected, as it is a most unlikely name. Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 03/04/2007 15:29:14 GMT Daylight Time, helen@wtoram.co.uk writes: There was a Henry Street in S. Shields in 1910 (Kelly's Directory) and there still is a Henry Street in S. Shields. ________________________________________________________________ The original Henry Street ran from the location I gave, off Green's Place between Mile End Road and Baring Street around to the position of the small section of Henry Street that is still there. The whole area has been redeveloped, but you can see the old maps at http://www.tomorrows-history.com/mapping/maps.htm Regards Stan Mapstone

Henry Street, South Shields, was off Green's Place between Mile End Road and Baring Street. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi to everyone, I was just wondering if anyone out there, could let me know if they have heard of a Stenry Street or Henry Street in South Shields. I received two certificates back this morning for two of my grandad's siblings and on one of them it says he was born at (and it looked like) Stenry or Henry Street, South Shields in 1918 I would be grateful if anyone knows which is correct, (or anything that could be it), if they would point me in the right direction, as the writing was quite hard to read. Regards Karen

Dear all, Can anyone tell me where WAPPING and/or WHELP LETCH are/were in 1780. I 'think' they might be near either Houghton-le-Spring or Chester-le-Street where a branch of my ERRINGTON's moved to, originating in Hexhamshire. They were Richard (1747), Mary (1750), Charles (1753), Ann (1757), Elizabeth (1760) and Jane (1766) ERRINGTON. A John ERRINGTON had been baptised in Hexham in 1756, but does not appear in a list of his brothers and sisters receiving legacies in 1780, from the will of Elizabeth ARMSTRONG of Hexham. Their father and mother were Richard ERRINGTON and Margaret WILLSON who married 3 January 1743/44 in Hexham. After Richard ERRINGTON's death in 1767 (buried Houghton le Spring?), Margaret ERRINGTON re-married to Robert RUTTER on 25 December 1769, Sunderland (but not sure which church). I think that Margaret RUTTER had died before 25 August 1781. Thank you for any help. Regards, Yvonne

On the 26 of March I joined this list and put out a request for help. While awaiting a response I have spent some time doing lookups for another person on this List. I had expected someone to make contact to tell me the information is not or is available, or lookups are not or are done or at least something. It is disappointing but I also understand if there isn't anyone who has the info it would not be forthcoming. I just wish I knew. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Cambridge" <talktomarg@shaw.ca> To: <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:08 AM Subject: [DUR-NBL] Parish Birth lookup please Surname MACE Hi everyone, I am new to the list and trying to help a recently found cousin with her research. She lives in France and I live in Canada ........we share 2 x great grandparents. She is researching the MACE family and is having great difficulty finding the parents of Charles MACE, born Darlington, Durham........ census info has his birth from 1825 to 1835. If anyone has a Parish Register birth/baptism index or CD I would so appreciate a look-up. Many thanks in advance Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada

Wapping was the old name for Bournmoor/Burnmoor. See http://www.tomorrows-history.com/mapping/maps.htm Regards Stan Mapstone

Try http://www.durham.gov.uk/recordoffice/dro.nsf/vwebplaces Regards Stan Mapstone

Hello List Members, Does anyone have access to the official church baptism records for Brancepeth, Co Durham? I am looking for the entry for George BELL (bap. 11 July 1756) who may have died 8 November 1791, place undetermined (per the IGI; patron submitted entry, of questionable value). I realize these event preceeded civil record keeping (1837). I would be interested in hearing from anyone who is researching this particular George BELL (bap 1756 Brancepeth) or has information re his parent's names and their marriage. Thank you, Bette

Hi folks Does anyone have access to the burial records of St Mary Gateshead? I am looking for the entry for William WILKIN who died 26th May 1839 so would have been buried shortly afterwards. Thanks Ruth in Hampshire

Many thanks to Russell, Maureen, Peter and Petra for replying and giving advice...Regards...Shaun

Hi Lyn Thanks for that. Could you contact me direct on sbambi@ntlworld.com to compare notes. I have just started on the Hedley's and know little about Matthew Hedley and his wife Hannah Ann Clementson. Their son Matthew George Hedley was my husbands grandfather. It would be great if we have a connection. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: <dur-nbl-request@rootsweb.com> To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 8:17 PM Subject: DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 115 > > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from DUR-NBL-D, send a message to > DUR-NBL-D-request@rootsweb.com > that contains in the body of the message the command > unsubscribe > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the DUR-NBL-D list administrator, send mail to > DUR-NBL-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 (Stanmapstone@aol.com) > 2. LOOK UP PLEASE A DEATH IN JARROW JUNE 12 1902 (pam.groves1) > 3. Re: DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 114 (Joan Sewell) > 4. Cheviot hills/Grasmere query (Autobyke@aol.com) > 5. Hedley/Clementson (lyndasgy@talktalk.net) > 6. Re: LOOK UP PLEASE A DEATH IN JARROW JUNE 12 1902 > (Stanmapstone@aol.com) > 7. Re: LOOK UP PLEASE A DEATH IN JARROW JUNE 12 1902 (Jan Moore) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 03:47:44 EDT > From: Stanmapstone@aol.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 > To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <bdd.f170ab8.3340bda0@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > In a message dated 01/04/2007 05:07:48 GMT Daylight Time, > crhayes@andlau.com > writes: > Which Directory is it that you're looking at? > ______________________________________________ > > Hi Ralph, > Digital Library of Historical Directories > http://www.historicaldirectories.org/ > > Regards Stan Mapstone > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 09:26:29 +0100 > From: "pam.groves1" <pam.groves1@ntlworld.com> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] LOOK UP PLEASE A DEATH IN JARROW JUNE 12 1902 > To: <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000b01c77437$7b48f270$0202a8c0@home5f45b9c2b3> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; > reply-type=original > > Hello List, > Please could some kind soul look up a death in the paper for > CAMPBELL, Jane Dixon 12 Jun 1902 Jarrow > I would like to know who her parents were please also if she was married > who > her husband was please. > Thank you in advance for any information I might receive. > Kind Regards > Pamela J Groves > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 09:40:59 +0100 > From: "Joan Sewell" <sbambi@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 114 > To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001401c77439$7a544750$82110650@johnkqcdjqare5> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Jenny > > I am not researching the Clementson's but have got a Hannah Ann Clementson > who married my husbands g.grandfather. This is info from the 1881 census: > Matthew Hedley age 33 living at 5 Front St Eggleston - Hannah wife age > 34 - > dora L. - age 4 - Jane A. age 6. > > Matthew Hedley b 1848 at Eggleston. m 1871 Hannah Ann Clementson b 1847 > at > Brampton (which I presume is in Cumbria) d 17/5/1914 at 13 Edward St. > Bishop > Auckland > > After the 1881 census they had two boys - Matthew George Hedley b 5.9.1881 > at Valley Tce. Howden le Wear. Nth. Bedburn. and Ernest Clementson > Hedley - > have no info on him. > > Is this part of your Clementson family? > > Joan Sewell Cambridgeshire > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <dur-nbl-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 8:03 AM > Subject: DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 114 > > >> >> >> Administrivia: >> To unsubscribe from DUR-NBL-D, send a message to >> DUR-NBL-D-request@rootsweb.com >> that contains in the body of the message the command >> unsubscribe >> and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >> requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. >> >> To contact the DUR-NBL-D list administrator, send mail to >> DUR-NBL-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. LOWERY / LOWREY (Diane Lowery) >> 2. Datal worker (jarralad) >> 3. Re: Datal worker (Carolgriff@aol.com) >> 4. Re: Datal worker (Patrick Williams) >> 5. Re: Datal worker (Stanmapstone@aol.com) >> 6. Re: Datal worker (Stanmapstone@aol.com) >> 7. Cheviot hills/Grasmere query (Autobyke@aol.com) >> 8. Re: Datal worker (Carolgriff@aol.com) >> 9. surname HETHERINGTON, BROWN Cross Dyke Allendale, CLEMENTSON >> & STOBBS. (Jenny De Angelis) >> 10. John & George GOTTS (Pat & Noel Upsall) >> 11. Re: DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 (Dr. C. Ralph Hayes) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:52:24 +1000 >> From: "Diane Lowery" <geminidi19@rabbit.com.au> >> Subject: [DUR-NBL] LOWERY / LOWREY >> To: <DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <003501c772d2$a5b723d0$6501a8c0@duron> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hi Ian, >> >> Sorry but your LOWERY family is not connected to mine. Your dates don't >> tie >> in nor the areas of Newcastle or Hartlepool . All of mine come from >> Great >> Lumley or Houghton le Spring. >> >> Wish I could help. >> >> Diane >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ian White" <iwhite99@rogers.com> >> To: <DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:48 AM >> Subject: [DUR-NBL] LOWERY / LOWREY >> >> >>> Diane Lowery posted a message about LOWERY in the 1871 >>> census. Does she or anyone else have any connections >>> to Robert LOWREY (1878 to 1910). Wife was Elizabeth >>> (nee BULMER), and children were Robert (1907 to 1990) >>> and Florence (1910 to 1989). The family was mainly >>> associated with the Byker area of Newcastle, except >>> Elizabeth who was from Hartlepool. There were other >>> LOWERY / LOWREY families in or near Byker at about the >>> same time, and I don't know whether or not they were >>> related. Any information about any of them would be >>> appreciated. >>> Many Thanks, Ian White >>> >>> >>> >>> Member: British Isles Family History Society of Greater Ottawa, Canada. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:13:39 +0100 >> From: "jarralad" <jarralad@btinternet.com> >> Subject: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker >> To: <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <000c01c77374$df0f2220$4001a8c0@cosh> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hi All, >> Can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between a DATAL worker and a >> FACE worker in the coal mines. >> Kind Regards Terry >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 05:26:12 EDT >> From: Carolgriff@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker >> To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <be8.13906bbb.333f8334@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> Hi >> >> My dad is shown to be a datal worker on the durham mining museum site- >> when >> he was 16 in 1947- he says its because they were treated as being just >> paid by >> the day rather than the hewers etc who were constantly employed but Id be >> grateful if someone could give a better description as im not really sure >> what >> he means. >> >> carol >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:42:32 +0100 >> From: "Patrick Williams" <pat.williams14@ukonline.co.uk> >> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker >> To: <Carolgriff@aol.com>, <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <000301c77378$e825a740$0500000a@userilzaxcqgl4> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" >> >> Hi Carol >> >> According to my Dictionary of old Trades, Titles and Occupations by Colin >> Waters, a Dataller, dateller,Day labourer, Day Teller Day Tale man and >> other >> similar name is a Casual worker in various industries >> >> Regards >> >> Pat Williams >> Bruton Somerset >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On >>> Behalf Of Carolgriff@aol.com >>> Sent: 31 March 2007 10:26 >>> To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> My dad is shown to be a datal worker on the durham mining museum site- >> when >>> he was 16 in 1947- he says its because they were treated as being just >> paid by >>> the day rather than the hewers etc who were constantly employed but Id >>> be >>> grateful if someone could give a better description as im not really >>> sure >> what >>> he means. >>> >>> carol >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >>> To Post a message to this list send it to, >>> DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >>> >>> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >>> List Web Page >>> http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >>> body >> of the message >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: >> 30/03/2007 13:15 >>> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: >> 30/03/2007 >> 13:15 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 06:38:38 EDT >> From: Stanmapstone@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker >> To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <cc5.e052d59.333f942e@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> O.E.D., day-taler, dataller, day + reckoning, 1530. Men employed on a >> day-rate of pay, a 'byeworker'. 'datal-work', 'day work', 'day wage >> work'. Any work >> carried out which was not directly involved with the production of coal. >> 'Contract work'. Work of a general nature. >> >> >> Regards Stan Mapstone >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 06:40:34 EDT >> From: Stanmapstone@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker >> To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <d55.599809a.333f94a2@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> Those below ground were mostly employed in constructional and repair >> work, >> timbering, roofing, laying roadways, clearing away debris, etc. >> >> >> Regards Stan Mapstone >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:27:08 EDT >> From: Autobyke@aol.com >> Subject: [DUR-NBL] Cheviot hills/Grasmere query >> To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com, >> ENG-NBL-BERWICK-UPON-TWEED-L@rootsweb.com, >> eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com, DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <cc3.c2d2925.333fbbac@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> Hi folks, >> I am trying to find birth details of Charles Hunt (maybe the name Henry >> is >> also used). >>>From his attestation papers, if the information he gave was true, he >>>would >> have been born on the 18 July 1833 and his parents would have been John >> and >> Ann. >> Family story has be being born in the "Cheviot Hills", there is also a >> belief that he had connections in the Grasmere area. He married Emily >> Robinson >> born 9 Sept 1851 in Grasmere. ( they married in Canada) >> Charles worked in Canada as a Miner. >> Anyone any ideas as to how I may make progress with finding his birth or >> anything about his parents. Hope you can help...Regards...Shaun >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:36:03 EDT >> From: Carolgriff@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker >> To: Stanmapstone@aol.com, DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <d59.5c0a851.333fd9e3@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> Hi All >> re datal worker- although not my query originally I appreciate the >> replies >> also. >> >> Stans description "Those below ground were mostly employed in >> constructional and repair work, timbering, roofing, laying roadways, >> clearing away >> debris, etc." fits what my dad explained he did. >> >> He said he left svhool on the friday aged 14 and went for a job at the >> pit >> where he started on the monday- for the first year you were above ground >> then >> went underground where you did various jobs till you were considered OK >> to >> be >> a hewer. >> >> Carol >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:19:42 +0200 >> From: "Jenny De Angelis" <jennyda@telefonica.net> >> Subject: [DUR-NBL] surname HETHERINGTON, BROWN Cross Dyke Allendale, >> CLEMENTSON & STOBBS. >> To: "DUR-NBL Mailing List" <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <010801c773d1$ef229a90$0301a8c0@portable> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> I am researching the above surname because my Gt. Grandmother was Leah >> HETHERINGTON born at Cross Dyke Allendale the daughter of Joseph >> Hetherington and his wife Jane BROWN. >> >> Joseph and Jane married at Allendale in 1813 and lived at Coalcleugh to >> begin with having 2 or 3 of their elder children born there. They then >> loved to Cross Dyke, Carrshield area where the rest of their children >> were >> born. Daughter Leah had a twin sister Lucy and they were baptised in >> 1833 >> at West Allen High Chapel. >> >> Lucy eventually emigrated to Australia while Leah married first in 1856 >> to >> Thomas CLEMENTSON a lead miner, they had two children William and Joseph >> Albert. Thomas died in 1859 and Leah married again in June 1861 to John >> STOBBS. Leah and JOhn Stobbs had two children John Thomas and Elizabeth >> Jane. John died in 1868 and Leah married for the 3rd and last time later >> that same year to Edwin HIRST of Yorkshire. They lived for a time in the >> Middlesbrough area and had one children Annie. Then they moved to >> Hartlepool where Edwin died in 1878. Leah died in 1903. >> >> I have been in touch with one line of descendants of Joseph Albert >> Clementson and his wife Coatses Armstrong, and my father used to talk >> about >> his Auntie Lizzie and her husband George Sanderson. But I know nothing >> of >> Leah's eldest son William Clementson and have lost him after the 1881 >> census >> entry for him and his wife Frances Dunning. >> >> I have been given the name of someone called Gordon, poss. Sanderson, by >> a >> cousin of mine who says I met Gordon in the 1950s when I was on a visit >> to >> Co. Durham and my cousins and aunties there. Gordon was apparently >> either >> a >> son or grandson of Elizabeth Stobbs and her husband George Sanderson, I >> think grandson is more likely, but I can find no trace of such a person. >> I >> would like to know who this person was. >> >> I have a fair bit of information on all of the people concerned in the >> above >> details and would like to hear from anyone else interested in any of the >> above names. >> >> I have seen on genesreunited that someone else has an interest in >> Hetheringtons at Cross Dyke but I do not subscribe to the site and >> therefore >> can get no further than searching the name index. But it shows that >> there >> is someone out there that must match up with me in some way. >> >> Regards >> Jenny DeAngelis >> Spain. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 10 >> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:04:14 +1000 >> From: "Pat & Noel Upsall" <npupsall@westnet.com.au> >> Subject: [DUR-NBL] John & George GOTTS >> To: <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <00ab01c773f9$ab386800$6401a8c0@patebmdzpspmh1> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hello all >> >> John & George GOTTS were 2 brothers who left Norfolk in the 1870s to find >> work in the mines in the north of England. >> >> GEORGE married Ann (also called Annie) HOGG in 1878 (Gateshead Dist) and >> they had a son, Robert William b.1879. George died in 1880 >> >> JOHN married Margaret Jane ALNWICK in 1874 (Gateshead Dist) and they had >> a >> daughter, Mary Elizabeth (also known as Mary Lizzy) b.1879. Margaret >> died >> soon after as on the 1881 Census for Ryton we find that Ann (widow) is >> 'housekeeper' to John (widower). On the 1891 Census for Willington John >> & >> Ann are shown as husband and wife (I haven't found details of a marriage) >> with Robert & Mary plus two children of their own, Susannah b.1886 & John >> Henry bc.1891. Ann died in 1895 and John in 1919 and both are buried at >> Willington. >> >> Robert William GOTTS married Lilian Elizabeth O'CALLAGHAN in 1899 and I >> know of one son - Robert Edward b.1900 >> >> Mary Lizzy GOTTS married Tom FOSTER in 1900 at Willington and on the free >> BMDs I have found one daughter b.1913 - Doris. There may be other >> children born before then, but I know Doris is a definite because Mary's >> maiden surname of Gotts is shown. >> >> John Henry GOTTS married Susannah SAWLEY in 1912 and a son, John, was >> born >> in 1913 - again confirmed by the mother's maiden surname on the free BMDs >> >> Susannah GOTTS married in 1909 either George HOUGHTON or Edward STOREY >> >> I would be pleased to hear from anyone who is connected to my two >> gt.uncle's families and are able to fill in some more information for me. >> >> Many thanks - Pat from Tuross Head NSW Oz >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 11 >> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:07:15 -0700 >> From: "Dr. C. Ralph Hayes" <crhayes@andlau.com> >> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 >> To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <460F2FF3.2090209@andlau.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Thank you for that Stan. Which Directory is it that you're looking at? >> >> In fact, several years ago, it was you who shed light on the "sword >> cane" I have, explaining its use by customs officials. Unfortunately, >> the certainty of Samuel Hayes being a tailor, leaves me in a further >> quandary about this cane that is dated 1849 and has his name and HM >> Customs on it. Oh well, back to the records. There will be an answer to >> this mystery somewhere. Thank you again Stan. >> >> Kind regards ... Ralph >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:39:58 EDT >>> From: Stanmapstone@aol.com >>> Subject: [DUR-NBL] Samuel Hayes >>> To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com >>> Message-ID: <cd9.dfcb852.333e18ce@aol.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >>> >>> In a message dated 29/03/2007 16:29:16 GMT Daylight Time, >>> crhayes@andlau.com >>> writes: >>> I have had one email from a subscriber who suggested that his >>> occupation might be 'sailor' but, on checking the three originals I >>> have >>> access to, the word is clearly 'tailor'. >>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>> Hi Ralph, >>> He is listed in the 1851 Directory as a Tailor, always worth double >>> checking >>> (:- )) >>> >>> Regards Stan Mapstone >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the DUR-NBL list administrator, send an email to >> DUR-NBL-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the DUR-NBL mailing list, send an email to >> DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 114 >> *************************************** >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.24/741 - Release Date: >> 31/03/2007 20:54 >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 05:23:16 EDT > From: Autobyke@aol.com > Subject: [DUR-NBL] Cheviot hills/Grasmere query > To: eng-nbl-berwick-upon-tweed@rootsweb.com > Cc: ENG-NBL-BERWICK-UPON-TWEED-L@rootsweb.com, DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com, > eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com, eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c9f.d5de30f.3340d404@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Russell, thanks for your reply... > The answer to your request for more information as follows. > 1...I have not seen the attestation papers, I received the information > second hand > 2...Emily's parents were... > James Robinson born 1 Jun 1823 Lane House, Ulverston, died 17 Apr 1888 > Cockermouth > Mary Fleming born11 Jul 1816 Rydal, Loughrigg, Westmorland, . > They married on 30 Apr 1850 in the Parish of Grasmere, Rydal. > Children of these were Charles, Emily, Flemming, Richard. > I don't know if Charles had any brothers or sisters. > Do you know where I can see records for the Scotland side of the Cheviot > Hills? > I know it's not much to go on, I appreciate any help/ideas I can > get...Regards...Shaun > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:55:51 +0100 > From: <lyndasgy@talktalk.net> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] Hedley/Clementson > To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <003001c7744c$508a5cd0$0301a8c0@BLACKBURN> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Joan, > > I have Hedleys from Egglestone. Matthew I believe was the brother of > Robert Hedley, my 4xgrandfather > > Lyn > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 09:53:03 EDT > From: Stanmapstone@aol.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] LOOK UP PLEASE A DEATH IN JARROW JUNE 12 1902 > To: DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d5a.5ce3c5f.3341133f@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > In the 1901 Census Jane D. Campbell, age 22 was living at 3 Walker > Street, > Jarrow, with her father and mother James Campbell, age 64, Mary Campbell > age > 64, and her brother James Campbell, age 27. > > Regards Stan Mapstone > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 20:17:08 +0100 > From: "Jan Moore" <janmoore@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] LOOK UP PLEASE A DEATH IN JARROW JUNE 12 1902 > To: "DUR-NBL-L" <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <003801c77492$591fc510$ae00a8c0@Moore> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Pam > > Do you know how old she was when she died? I've found a possibility and if > you can state her age, I can see if my 'find' is your Jane. > > Jan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "pam.groves1" <pam.groves1@ntlworld.com> > To: <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:26 AM > Subject: [DUR-NBL] LOOK UP PLEASE A DEATH IN JARROW JUNE 12 1902 > > >> Hello List, >> Please could some kind soul look up a death in the paper for >> CAMPBELL, Jane Dixon 12 Jun 1902 Jarrow >> I would like to know who her parents were please also if she was married >> who >> her husband was please. >> Thank you in advance for any information I might receive. >> Kind Regards >> Pamela J Groves >> >> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >> To Post a message to this list send it to, >> DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >> >> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >> List Web Page >> http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the DUR-NBL list administrator, send an email to > DUR-NBL-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the DUR-NBL mailing list, send an email to > DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 115 > *************************************** > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.24/741 - Release Date: > 31/03/2007 20:54 >

HI Joan, No I am sorry but Hannah Ann Clementson doesn't fit with the Clementsons that I have. The Clementson family that my Gt. Grandmother married into in 1856 had been in Allendale for quite a long time, though their ancestors may well have come across form Cumbeland as so many Allendale folk did. I have not come across a Hannah Ann Clementson born about 1847, as your lady would have been. Sorry I can't be of more help. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. > I am not researching the Clementson's but have got a Hannah Ann Clementson > who married my husbands g.grandfather. This is info from the 1881 census: > Matthew Hedley age 33 living at 5 Front St Eggleston - Hannah wife age > 34 - dora L. - age 4 - Jane A. age 6. > Matthew Hedley b 1848 at Eggleston. m 1871 Hannah Ann Clementson b 1847 > at Brampton (which I presume is in Cumbria) d 17/5/1914 at 13 Edward St. > Bishop Auckland > Is this part of your Clementson family?

Hi Pam Do you know how old she was when she died? I've found a possibility and if you can state her age, I can see if my 'find' is your Jane. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "pam.groves1" <pam.groves1@ntlworld.com> To: <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: [DUR-NBL] LOOK UP PLEASE A DEATH IN JARROW JUNE 12 1902 > Hello List, > Please could some kind soul look up a death in the paper for > CAMPBELL, Jane Dixon 12 Jun 1902 Jarrow > I would like to know who her parents were please also if she was married > who > her husband was please. > Thank you in advance for any information I might receive. > Kind Regards > Pamela J Groves > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Joan, I have Hedleys from Egglestone. Matthew I believe was the brother of Robert Hedley, my 4xgrandfather Lyn

Hello all John & George GOTTS were 2 brothers who left Norfolk in the 1870s to find work in the mines in the north of England. GEORGE married Ann (also called Annie) HOGG in 1878 (Gateshead Dist) and they had a son, Robert William b.1879. George died in 1880 JOHN married Margaret Jane ALNWICK in 1874 (Gateshead Dist) and they had a daughter, Mary Elizabeth (also known as Mary Lizzy) b.1879. Margaret died soon after as on the 1881 Census for Ryton we find that Ann (widow) is 'housekeeper' to John (widower). On the 1891 Census for Willington John & Ann are shown as husband and wife (I haven't found details of a marriage) with Robert & Mary plus two children of their own, Susannah b.1886 & John Henry bc.1891. Ann died in 1895 and John in 1919 and both are buried at Willington. Robert William GOTTS married Lilian Elizabeth O'CALLAGHAN in 1899 and I know of one son - Robert Edward b.1900 Mary Lizzy GOTTS married Tom FOSTER in 1900 at Willington and on the free BMDs I have found one daughter b.1913 - Doris. There may be other children born before then, but I know Doris is a definite because Mary's maiden surname of Gotts is shown. John Henry GOTTS married Susannah SAWLEY in 1912 and a son, John, was born in 1913 - again confirmed by the mother's maiden surname on the free BMDs Susannah GOTTS married in 1909 either George HOUGHTON or Edward STOREY I would be pleased to hear from anyone who is connected to my two gt.uncle's families and are able to fill in some more information for me. Many thanks - Pat from Tuross Head NSW Oz

In the 1901 Census Jane D. Campbell, age 22 was living at 3 Walker Street, Jarrow, with her father and mother James Campbell, age 64, Mary Campbell age 64, and her brother James Campbell, age 27. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi Jenny I am not researching the Clementson's but have got a Hannah Ann Clementson who married my husbands g.grandfather. This is info from the 1881 census: Matthew Hedley age 33 living at 5 Front St Eggleston - Hannah wife age 34 - dora L. - age 4 - Jane A. age 6. Matthew Hedley b 1848 at Eggleston. m 1871 Hannah Ann Clementson b 1847 at Brampton (which I presume is in Cumbria) d 17/5/1914 at 13 Edward St. Bishop Auckland After the 1881 census they had two boys - Matthew George Hedley b 5.9.1881 at Valley Tce. Howden le Wear. Nth. Bedburn. and Ernest Clementson Hedley - have no info on him. Is this part of your Clementson family? Joan Sewell Cambridgeshire ----- Original Message ----- From: <dur-nbl-request@rootsweb.com> To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 8:03 AM Subject: DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 114 > > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from DUR-NBL-D, send a message to > DUR-NBL-D-request@rootsweb.com > that contains in the body of the message the command > unsubscribe > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the DUR-NBL-D list administrator, send mail to > DUR-NBL-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. LOWERY / LOWREY (Diane Lowery) > 2. Datal worker (jarralad) > 3. Re: Datal worker (Carolgriff@aol.com) > 4. Re: Datal worker (Patrick Williams) > 5. Re: Datal worker (Stanmapstone@aol.com) > 6. Re: Datal worker (Stanmapstone@aol.com) > 7. Cheviot hills/Grasmere query (Autobyke@aol.com) > 8. Re: Datal worker (Carolgriff@aol.com) > 9. surname HETHERINGTON, BROWN Cross Dyke Allendale, CLEMENTSON > & STOBBS. (Jenny De Angelis) > 10. John & George GOTTS (Pat & Noel Upsall) > 11. Re: DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 (Dr. C. Ralph Hayes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:52:24 +1000 > From: "Diane Lowery" <geminidi19@rabbit.com.au> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] LOWERY / LOWREY > To: <DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <003501c772d2$a5b723d0$6501a8c0@duron> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Ian, > > Sorry but your LOWERY family is not connected to mine. Your dates don't > tie > in nor the areas of Newcastle or Hartlepool . All of mine come from Great > Lumley or Houghton le Spring. > > Wish I could help. > > Diane > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian White" <iwhite99@rogers.com> > To: <DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:48 AM > Subject: [DUR-NBL] LOWERY / LOWREY > > >> Diane Lowery posted a message about LOWERY in the 1871 >> census. Does she or anyone else have any connections >> to Robert LOWREY (1878 to 1910). Wife was Elizabeth >> (nee BULMER), and children were Robert (1907 to 1990) >> and Florence (1910 to 1989). The family was mainly >> associated with the Byker area of Newcastle, except >> Elizabeth who was from Hartlepool. There were other >> LOWERY / LOWREY families in or near Byker at about the >> same time, and I don't know whether or not they were >> related. Any information about any of them would be >> appreciated. >> Many Thanks, Ian White >> >> >> >> Member: British Isles Family History Society of Greater Ottawa, Canada. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:13:39 +0100 > From: "jarralad" <jarralad@btinternet.com> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker > To: <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000c01c77374$df0f2220$4001a8c0@cosh> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi All, > Can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between a DATAL worker and a > FACE worker in the coal mines. > Kind Regards Terry > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 05:26:12 EDT > From: Carolgriff@aol.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker > To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <be8.13906bbb.333f8334@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi > > My dad is shown to be a datal worker on the durham mining museum site- > when > he was 16 in 1947- he says its because they were treated as being just > paid by > the day rather than the hewers etc who were constantly employed but Id be > grateful if someone could give a better description as im not really sure > what > he means. > > carol > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:42:32 +0100 > From: "Patrick Williams" <pat.williams14@ukonline.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker > To: <Carolgriff@aol.com>, <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000301c77378$e825a740$0500000a@userilzaxcqgl4> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" > > Hi Carol > > According to my Dictionary of old Trades, Titles and Occupations by Colin > Waters, a Dataller, dateller,Day labourer, Day Teller Day Tale man and > other > similar name is a Casual worker in various industries > > Regards > > Pat Williams > Bruton Somerset > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On >> Behalf Of Carolgriff@aol.com >> Sent: 31 March 2007 10:26 >> To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker >> >> Hi >> >> My dad is shown to be a datal worker on the durham mining museum site- > when >> he was 16 in 1947- he says its because they were treated as being just > paid by >> the day rather than the hewers etc who were constantly employed but Id >> be >> grateful if someone could give a better description as im not really sure > what >> he means. >> >> carol >> >> >> >> >> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >> To Post a message to this list send it to, >> DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >> >> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >> List Web Page >> http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body > of the message >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: > 30/03/2007 13:15 >> > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: > 30/03/2007 > 13:15 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 06:38:38 EDT > From: Stanmapstone@aol.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker > To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cc5.e052d59.333f942e@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > O.E.D., day-taler, dataller, day + reckoning, 1530. Men employed on a > day-rate of pay, a 'byeworker'. 'datal-work', 'day work', 'day wage > work'. Any work > carried out which was not directly involved with the production of coal. > 'Contract work'. Work of a general nature. > > > Regards Stan Mapstone > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 06:40:34 EDT > From: Stanmapstone@aol.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker > To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d55.599809a.333f94a2@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Those below ground were mostly employed in constructional and repair > work, > timbering, roofing, laying roadways, clearing away debris, etc. > > > Regards Stan Mapstone > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:27:08 EDT > From: Autobyke@aol.com > Subject: [DUR-NBL] Cheviot hills/Grasmere query > To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com, > ENG-NBL-BERWICK-UPON-TWEED-L@rootsweb.com, > eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com, DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cc3.c2d2925.333fbbac@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi folks, > I am trying to find birth details of Charles Hunt (maybe the name Henry is > also used). >>From his attestation papers, if the information he gave was true, he would > have been born on the 18 July 1833 and his parents would have been John > and > Ann. > Family story has be being born in the "Cheviot Hills", there is also a > belief that he had connections in the Grasmere area. He married Emily > Robinson > born 9 Sept 1851 in Grasmere. ( they married in Canada) > Charles worked in Canada as a Miner. > Anyone any ideas as to how I may make progress with finding his birth or > anything about his parents. Hope you can help...Regards...Shaun > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:36:03 EDT > From: Carolgriff@aol.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker > To: Stanmapstone@aol.com, DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d59.5c0a851.333fd9e3@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi All > re datal worker- although not my query originally I appreciate the > replies > also. > > Stans description "Those below ground were mostly employed in > constructional and repair work, timbering, roofing, laying roadways, > clearing away > debris, etc." fits what my dad explained he did. > > He said he left svhool on the friday aged 14 and went for a job at the pit > where he started on the monday- for the first year you were above ground > then > went underground where you did various jobs till you were considered OK to > be > a hewer. > > Carol > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:19:42 +0200 > From: "Jenny De Angelis" <jennyda@telefonica.net> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] surname HETHERINGTON, BROWN Cross Dyke Allendale, > CLEMENTSON & STOBBS. > To: "DUR-NBL Mailing List" <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <010801c773d1$ef229a90$0301a8c0@portable> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I am researching the above surname because my Gt. Grandmother was Leah > HETHERINGTON born at Cross Dyke Allendale the daughter of Joseph > Hetherington and his wife Jane BROWN. > > Joseph and Jane married at Allendale in 1813 and lived at Coalcleugh to > begin with having 2 or 3 of their elder children born there. They then > loved to Cross Dyke, Carrshield area where the rest of their children were > born. Daughter Leah had a twin sister Lucy and they were baptised in 1833 > at West Allen High Chapel. > > Lucy eventually emigrated to Australia while Leah married first in 1856 to > Thomas CLEMENTSON a lead miner, they had two children William and Joseph > Albert. Thomas died in 1859 and Leah married again in June 1861 to John > STOBBS. Leah and JOhn Stobbs had two children John Thomas and Elizabeth > Jane. John died in 1868 and Leah married for the 3rd and last time later > that same year to Edwin HIRST of Yorkshire. They lived for a time in the > Middlesbrough area and had one children Annie. Then they moved to > Hartlepool where Edwin died in 1878. Leah died in 1903. > > I have been in touch with one line of descendants of Joseph Albert > Clementson and his wife Coatses Armstrong, and my father used to talk > about > his Auntie Lizzie and her husband George Sanderson. But I know nothing of > Leah's eldest son William Clementson and have lost him after the 1881 > census > entry for him and his wife Frances Dunning. > > I have been given the name of someone called Gordon, poss. Sanderson, by > a > cousin of mine who says I met Gordon in the 1950s when I was on a visit to > Co. Durham and my cousins and aunties there. Gordon was apparently either > a > son or grandson of Elizabeth Stobbs and her husband George Sanderson, I > think grandson is more likely, but I can find no trace of such a person. > I > would like to know who this person was. > > I have a fair bit of information on all of the people concerned in the > above > details and would like to hear from anyone else interested in any of the > above names. > > I have seen on genesreunited that someone else has an interest in > Hetheringtons at Cross Dyke but I do not subscribe to the site and > therefore > can get no further than searching the name index. But it shows that there > is someone out there that must match up with me in some way. > > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis > Spain. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:04:14 +1000 > From: "Pat & Noel Upsall" <npupsall@westnet.com.au> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] John & George GOTTS > To: <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00ab01c773f9$ab386800$6401a8c0@patebmdzpspmh1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello all > > John & George GOTTS were 2 brothers who left Norfolk in the 1870s to find > work in the mines in the north of England. > > GEORGE married Ann (also called Annie) HOGG in 1878 (Gateshead Dist) and > they had a son, Robert William b.1879. George died in 1880 > > JOHN married Margaret Jane ALNWICK in 1874 (Gateshead Dist) and they had a > daughter, Mary Elizabeth (also known as Mary Lizzy) b.1879. Margaret died > soon after as on the 1881 Census for Ryton we find that Ann (widow) is > 'housekeeper' to John (widower). On the 1891 Census for Willington John & > Ann are shown as husband and wife (I haven't found details of a marriage) > with Robert & Mary plus two children of their own, Susannah b.1886 & John > Henry bc.1891. Ann died in 1895 and John in 1919 and both are buried at > Willington. > > Robert William GOTTS married Lilian Elizabeth O'CALLAGHAN in 1899 and I > know of one son - Robert Edward b.1900 > > Mary Lizzy GOTTS married Tom FOSTER in 1900 at Willington and on the free > BMDs I have found one daughter b.1913 - Doris. There may be other > children born before then, but I know Doris is a definite because Mary's > maiden surname of Gotts is shown. > > John Henry GOTTS married Susannah SAWLEY in 1912 and a son, John, was born > in 1913 - again confirmed by the mother's maiden surname on the free BMDs > > Susannah GOTTS married in 1909 either George HOUGHTON or Edward STOREY > > I would be pleased to hear from anyone who is connected to my two > gt.uncle's families and are able to fill in some more information for me. > > Many thanks - Pat from Tuross Head NSW Oz > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:07:15 -0700 > From: "Dr. C. Ralph Hayes" <crhayes@andlau.com> > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 > To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <460F2FF3.2090209@andlau.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thank you for that Stan. Which Directory is it that you're looking at? > > In fact, several years ago, it was you who shed light on the "sword > cane" I have, explaining its use by customs officials. Unfortunately, > the certainty of Samuel Hayes being a tailor, leaves me in a further > quandary about this cane that is dated 1849 and has his name and HM > Customs on it. Oh well, back to the records. There will be an answer to > this mystery somewhere. Thank you again Stan. > > Kind regards ... Ralph >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:39:58 EDT >> From: Stanmapstone@aol.com >> Subject: [DUR-NBL] Samuel Hayes >> To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <cd9.dfcb852.333e18ce@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> In a message dated 29/03/2007 16:29:16 GMT Daylight Time, >> crhayes@andlau.com >> writes: >> I have had one email from a subscriber who suggested that his >> occupation might be 'sailor' but, on checking the three originals I have >> access to, the word is clearly 'tailor'. >> ____________________________________________________________________ >> Hi Ralph, >> He is listed in the 1851 Directory as a Tailor, always worth double >> checking >> (:- )) >> >> Regards Stan Mapstone > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the DUR-NBL list administrator, send an email to > DUR-NBL-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the DUR-NBL mailing list, send an email to > DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 114 > *************************************** > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.24/741 - Release Date: > 31/03/2007 20:54 > >