Hi Jennifer If you go to the Durham County Council site at the URL below and select from the left hand menu "Registrars Certificates" you can then search for the birth of Eleanor James between the years 1841-1850, no need to put in any other detail. I did this and got two results, one registered in 1841 and the other in 1846. You could vary the year range of your search, perhaps to search 1837-1840 just in case she was born near the end of 1840, there is one shown as born 1840. All three of these entries were at Durham Central office as it happens. If you click on link to the View details of the entry, of either one of the results, you will see that you can order a copy and pay for it on line. You will also see that you can send a query before ordering. If you know the names of your Eleanor James' parents then you can send a query and ask for the entry you have selected to be checked to see if the parents names match with what you have. If it does match then you can order a copy of the entry with confidence that it is the right Eleanor James birth. If it doesn't match then won't have to pay anything and can continue searching for her birth. You could ask for the other entries found to be checked against the parents names you might have, especially that 1840 entry. The URL is http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/usp.nsf/pws/Online+Services+-+Durham+County+Council+Information+Service+-+Online+Services You need to get this URL all on one line, just expand this e.mail to full screen to do so. Hope this helps. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. > I am looking for my ancestor Eleanor JAMES in Co Durham. I found her birth > on FreeBMD, listed in > March quarter 1841 as: James, Eleanor Durham, vol 24, page 38. When I > ordered this from the GRO, they said "We have not produced a certificate > as there is no trace of the above > mentioned person at the reference you quoted." Could SKS please take a > look at the scan on freeBMD and see if you read it differently, or have > any other suggestions as to why this happened and what I should do next?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Kirk" <jenkirk24@hotmail.com> To: <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: [genealogy] [DUR-NBL] Eleanor JAMES in Durham > Hello list- > > I am looking for my ancestor Eleanor JAMES in Co Durham. I found her birth > on FreeBMD, listed in > March quarter 1841 as: James, Eleanor Durham, vol 24, page 38. When I > ordered this from the GRO, they said "We have not produced a certificate as > there is no trace of the above > mentioned person at the reference you quoted." Could SKS please take a look > at the scan on freeBMD and see if you read it differently, or have any other > suggestions as to why this happened and what I should do next? Jennifer, You should be able to order a copy of the certificate direct from Durham County Council. If all goes well, this link should get you to the relevant page: http://www.durham.gov.uk/gro/bi184150.nsf/newintermediate?openform&order=C0561135050405042007$&idpass=bi184150B75DCA8AA7782A1F80256FE20049344D Cheers, Tim S.

Jennifer, image sent offflist Jackie Jennifer Kirk wrote: >Hello list- > >I am looking for my ancestor Eleanor JAMES in Co Durham. I found her birth >on FreeBMD, listed in >March quarter 1841 as: James, Eleanor Durham, vol 24, page 38. When I >ordered this from the GRO, they said "We have not produced a certificate as >there is no trace of the above >mentioned person at the reference you quoted." Could SKS please take a look >at the scan on freeBMD and see if you read it differently, or have any other >suggestions as to why this happened and what I should do next? >Thanks >Jennifer >Iowa, USA > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >To Post a message to this list send it to, >DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > >==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >List Web Page >http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Jennifer This seems to be an error on Free BMD as I read the page number as 88 rather than 38 March 1841 Durham &c XXIV However there is another Eleanor James registered in the Mar 1840 Durham &c vol XXIV page 65 and an Eleanor James registered in Gateshead June 1842 XXIV 131, so you should be sure that you have the right one. Before you write to the GRO again, someone else should verify what I found - as the numbers are not that clear. Heather Jennifer Kirk wrote: > Hello list- > > I am looking for my ancestor Eleanor JAMES in Co Durham. I found her birth > on FreeBMD, listed in > March quarter 1841 as: James, Eleanor Durham, vol 24, page 38. When I > ordered this from the GRO, they said "We have not produced a certificate as > there is no trace of the above > mentioned person at the reference you quoted." Could SKS please take a look > at the scan on freeBMD and see if you read it differently, or have any other > suggestions as to why this happened and what I should do next? > Thanks > Jennifer > Iowa, USA > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello list- I am looking for my ancestor Eleanor JAMES in Co Durham. I found her birth on FreeBMD, listed in March quarter 1841 as: James, Eleanor Durham, vol 24, page 38. When I ordered this from the GRO, they said "We have not produced a certificate as there is no trace of the above mentioned person at the reference you quoted." Could SKS please take a look at the scan on freeBMD and see if you read it differently, or have any other suggestions as to why this happened and what I should do next? Thanks Jennifer Iowa, USA

Thanks Stan - it makes sense doesn't it? It either went on a long way or there were a large number of houses/dwellings crammed in, judging by the numbering system. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <Stanmapstone@aol.com> To: <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Irish St Durham > The description of the enumeration district mentions Mr. Charlton's Irish > Foundry, so I guess that Irish Street is a street associated with the > foundry. > > Regards Stan Mapstone > > > > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 04/04/2007 10:32:54 GMT Daylight Time, janmoore@ntlworld.com writes: It either went on a long way or there were a large number of houses/dwellings crammed in, judging by the numbering system. _______________________________________________________ Hi Jan, The Consett Company Houses were from No. I to No. 261 on the south side of the Anfield Plain to Consett Road, and from No. 262 to No. 550 on the north side of the road. Looking at the old map they were set out in squares. The township of Iveston was the south side and Leadgate portion of Iveston on the north side. Regards Stan Mapstone

I should imagine that it was named Irish street after the huge influx of Irish due to the famine...my lot arrived from County Down in the late1840s...and when I checked the census many in the street were of the same heritage William Johnson and wife Jane arrived 1847cc with children Samuel bn C Down 1839 William bn C Down 1841 James bn C Down 1848 then Horace bn Bellington 1849 David bn Bellington 150 Samuel....(married Mary Liddell Oct 1858 in Gateshead) and had 8 known children including my ggrandmother Isabella who married Edward Charlton and came to NSW AUS early 1900s with 4 children Christene

The description of the enumeration district mentions Mr. Charlton's Irish Foundry, so I guess that Irish Street is a street associated with the foundry. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi Jan, It is Irish Street, but was no longer there in the 1881 Census. Regards Stan Mapstone

Thanks Margaret I thought it was! I wonder why it was so named and when? Any ideas anyone? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mgt Fuller" <MgtFuller@blueyonder.co.uk> To: "Jan Moore" <janmoore@ntlworld.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 10:24 PM Subject: RE: [DUR-NBL] Irish St Durham > I've checked a few pages and it is IRISH Street. > > Margaret. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jan Moore > Sent: 03 April 2007 22:17 > To: DUR-NBL-L > Subject: [DUR-NBL] Irish St Durham > > > Hi List > > In tracking someone in the 1861 census, I've come further forward and > looked > for them in the 1871. The details of the person (Michael Small) are not > relevant to my question, which is was there a street as named above? The > transcript I'm looking at has it as High St, which seems unlikely. > > Could someone take a look and see what you think? The reference is > RG10/4959/F116 p 37. > > Thanks! > > Jan > > >

Hi List In tracking someone in the 1861 census, I've come further forward and looked for them in the 1871. The details of the person (Michael Small) are not relevant to my question, which is was there a street as named above? The transcript I'm looking at has it as High St, which seems unlikely. Could someone take a look and see what you think? The reference is RG10/4959/F116 p 37. Thanks! Jan

Hi Margaret 1851: Tyne Street, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland Charles MAICE/ MARCE? head mar 26 Engine Driver (rail) b. Darlington Christiana wife 22 b. Berwick on Tweed Mary daur 1 b. Newcastle Upon Tyne, NTM 1861: 12 Green Street, Bishopwearmouth, Durham Charles MACE head mar 26 Engineer b. Darlington Christiana wife 31 b. Berwick, Scotland Mary daur 11 scholar b. Newcastle Upon Tyne Elizabeth daur 8 scholar b. Maragrada? Rupia? Anna J? daur 6 sholar b. Jarrow, Durham Christiana daur 3 b. West Hartlepool, Durham Charles MACE m Christiana GILLMOUR at Tynemouth district 25 515 Dec qu 1848 ? 1841: Church Street, Berwick upon Tweed, Northumberland Wm WILKINSON? 33/ 35? Blacksmith NO Mary 35 Yes Christiana GILMOUR 12 Yes Ann Jane GILMOUR 55 Yes Isabella Allison? 3 Yes Henry do 11mths Yes

Dear Stan, Many thanks indeed for your replies on Wapping and Whelp Letch. That's great. As ever, I very much appreciate your help and knowledge. With these details, I realise that I've actually been to, or near, both places in the past, without ever knowing they would cross my path in genealogy:-(( Kind regards, Yvonne > From: Stanmapstone@aol.com [mailto:Stanmapstone@aol.com] Sent: 03 April 2007 09:03 To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Where are WAPPING and WHELP LETCH, Co. Durham? Try http://www.durham.gov.uk/recordoffice/dro.nsf/vwebplaces Regards Stan Mapstone <

Hi Ruth, Gateshead, St Mary - Burials Page 82, Entry 654. William Wilkin, Address, Heworth Age 76 years Buried 30th May 1839. Sorry I couldn't make out the ministers name. Margaret. Subject: [DUR-NBL] WILKIN - Gateshead St Mary Hi folks Does anyone have access to the burial records of St Mary Gateshead? I am looking for the entry for William WILKIN who died 26th May 1839 so would have been buried shortly afterwards. Thanks Ruth in Hampshire

In message <01f101c76fb8$adb9d090$ac654d46@Seanix>, Margaret Cambridge <talktomarg@shaw.ca> writes >Hi everyone, >I am new to the list and trying to help a recently found cousin with her >research. She lives in France and I live in Canada ........we share 2 x >great grandparents. > >She is researching the MACE family and is having great difficulty finding >the parents of Charles MACE, born Darlington, Durham........ census info >has his birth from 1825 to 1835. > >If anyone has a Parish Register birth/baptism index or CD I would so >appreciate a look-up. > >Many thanks in advance > Hello Marg, There are no published transcripts for Darlington after 1812. There is a fiche of Baptism, Marriage & Burials 1798-1812 (St Cuthbert was the parish church) but no MACE or similar names are listed. Perhaps they came to Darlington from elsewhere. It does not seem to be a common name in the North east. Here is Charles in 1851 in case you do not have him Charles Marse (image looks like MARCE) Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Christiana Gender: Male Where born: Darlington, Durham, England Civil parish: Newcastle Upon Tyne All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: St Ann Town: Newcastle Upon Tyne County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub-registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Charles Marse 26 Christiana Marse 22 Mary Marse 1 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2407; Folio: 441; Page: 8; GSU roll: 87085. I can't find him in 1841. Regards, -- Helen Oram

Hello Margaret, I don't have Ancestry, but I've checked the 1881 and found Charles (I think) at Bishopwearmouth age 55, a marine (seaman) with wife Christiana and 6 children. There is also a death registration in the Dec. quarter 1886, Sunderland vol 10a page 285, for Charles Mace age 61, so both of these put his birth around 1825. The local library has films of St Cuthbert's parish registers which I'll check on my next visit later this week. It should be a lot easier than having to check through a possible 10 years of entries. Regards, Colin She is researching the MACE family and is having great difficulty finding the parents of Charles MACE, born Darlington, Durham........ census info has his birth from 1825 to 1835. If anyone has a Parish Register birth/baptism index or CD I would so appreciate a look-up. Many thanks in advance Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada

hi, Im reseraching BRUCE in Jarrow St Pauls if anyone can help me I have a Robert Bruce and am trying to locate his birth.He married a Margaret Wheatley in 1789 In Jarrow St Pauls other bruces later in time also wed in the same parish could anyone help with a lookup to locate Robert? sue

Hi Karen No guarantee its the same one but if you go to http://maps.google.co.uk/ Enter Henry Street South Shields it will take you to a Henry St still there today Perhaps others may know if its likely to be the same one Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) Admin for OVINGTON - HAYLOCK - SEYMOUR Lists > Hi to everyone, > > I was just wondering if anyone out there, could let me know if they have > heard of a Stenry Street or Henry Street in South Shields. > > I received two certificates back this morning for two of my grandad's > siblings and on one of them it says he was born at (and it looked like) > Stenry or > Henry Street, South Shields in 1918 > > I would be grateful if anyone knows which is correct, (or anything that > could be it), if they would point me in the right direction, as the > writing was > quite hard to read. > > Regards > Karen

Hi - If the certificate is a hand written copy, as opposed to a photocopy, then put your question to the authority who issued it to you. Cheers - Brian in Coventry ----- Original Message ----- From: <PUTMAN914@aol.com> To: <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 3:10 PM Subject: [DUR-NBL] (no subject) > Hi to everyone, > > I was just wondering if anyone out there, could let me know if they have > heard of a Stenry Street or Henry Street in South Shields. > > I received two certificates back this morning for two of my grandad's > siblings and on one of them it says he was born at (and it looked like) > Stenry or > Henry Street, South Shields in 1918 > > I would be grateful if anyone knows which is correct, (or anything that > could be it), if they would point me in the right direction, as the > writing was > quite hard to read. > > Regards > Karen > > > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.25/744 - Release Date: > 03/04/2007 05:32 > >