I'm researching my DENTON family of Sedgefield, Ferryhill and Ashington. Thomas DENTON married Jane CALVERT at Sedgefield on 21 Jan 1793 - but where and when was he born/baptised? There is a possible record of his baptism in Durham, St Giles, ten miles from Sedgefield, in 1767. But I am wondering if anyone else is interested in this family and has a more definitive record. Pat Griffiths (nee DENTON)

When Robert COULSON died 1849 he left a legacy to the Swedenborgian publishing house in London. He had supported their church and left 'my organ presently in the New Jerusalem Chapel Newcastle upon Tyne' to his niece Ann RYCOFT ( later MAIN) This was the local Swedenborgian Chapel in Percy Street. Is it still there? And what happened to the Swedenborgians in Newcastle? Robin -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland

In a message dated 15/04/2007 09:13:31 GMT Daylight Time, margaret@scottishwool.com writes: This was the local Swedenborgian Chapel in Percy Street. Is it still there? And what happened to the Swedenborgians in Newcastle? _______________________________________________________________ The General Church of the New Jerusalem aka The New Church, was commonly called the "Swedenborgians" after the theological teachings of Emanuel Swedenborg. Manchester/Newcastle: Contact Rev. Norman Riley 69 Harewood Road, Norden, Rochdale, Lancs OL11 5TH 01706-654003 See http://www.swedenborg.org.uk/ and http://www.newchurch.org/locations/europe/england Regards Stan Mapstone

Hello again listers I am trying to tie up some of my Gotts family loose-ends and would be pleased to hear from anyone who may be able to assist. Michael Paul GOTTS (b.1854 Saxthorpe NFK - d.1949) married Ann Tiffen PERCIVAL in 1881 (Mar Qtr Gateshead Dist). My information is rather sparse and this is all I know of their family:- Betsey b.1881 Ryton d.1953. I don't know if she married. Mary Jane b.1882 Ryton married James Potts George Gotts b.1887 Whollybush d.1957 married Mary Carr 1913 (Gateshead Dist) Margaret Gotts b.1889 Whollybush married T. Robson Grace Gotts b.1892 Whollybush married Joseph Whitfield William GOTTS (bc.1857 Saxthorpe NFK) married Annie COOKE in 1881 (Mar Qtr Auckland Dist) As far as I know they only had one son, Paul, who was born in 1883 at Stanley Matthew GOTTS (b.1884 at Crook kia 1916 France) married Lydia JACKSON 1906 (June Qtr Durham Dist). They had 3 children all born at Mt Pleasant and christened in the Primitive Methodist Church at Stanley: Thomas b.1909; Margaret Lydia b.1910 & Matthew b.1914. I'm hoping there may be someone connected to these families who will be able to give me more information. Many thanks - Pat from Tuross Head NSW Oz

Does anyone know more about Susannah RICHARDSON? Her husband was John READHEAD the founder of the shipyard. She is reputed to have been born about 1819 in Whitby, North Yorkshire, married on 20 Nov 1842 at St Hilda Souths Shields, and died about 1887 also South Shields. This mainly from a website about the Shipyard, but some confirmed by checking census returns. I'm doing some research for a friend, a family legend says they were related to the Readhead family - the only connection I can see at present would be through a Richardson connection - as that is her surname too. However, it's a very tenuous connection, given the time scale. Many thanks J K PS I have sent this message before, but it's not appearing on the list for some reason.

Thanks for that poem, its great! And Im so glad this list has no probs with Mr Peathingy:) carol

Carol wrote: Going off on a tangent, you have made me think of the hearth tax now, I'm thinking about dwellings in Esh Co Durham 1700s (my Millburns came from there)- many poor dwellings didnt have fireplaces so the poor used to go to the bakehouse to pay to have bread baked etc, - When Sunday Observance laws came in the 1800's, it became illegal for the bakehouses to trade on Sunday. Thus the satirical rhyme: The rich man has a kitchen, And cooks to dress his dinner; The poor who would roast To the baker's must post, And thus becomes a sinner. By Thomas Love Peacock http://www.thomaslovepeacock.net/shorter.html#poem14 BTW, a "morality filter" on another group changed the poet's name to "Peathingy"!

Hi Was wondering if anyone can help ?Im stuck ! Im looking for a ROBERT BRUCE abt 1770's.I have his children etc all down to present day line but is Robert who im trying to locate and his birth. He married a MARGARET WHEATLEY 31 Aug 1789 Jarrow, St. Paul Durham. I have a copy of marriage entry unfortunaly doesnt state where he was born . IGI is p016101 They had the following children ; John Bruce 07 May 1790 St Andrews Newcastle (Anglican) ( my line) Isabella Bruce 6 Dec 1793 St Andrews Newcastle (Anglican C of E ) George Bruce 12 Nov 1801St Andrews Newcastle (Anglican C of E ) Mary Bruce 13 Nov 1798 St Andrews Newcastle (Anglican C of E ) William Bruce 23 Dec 1795 St Andrews Newcastle (Anglican C of E ) The info below from a transcription of the full parish registers of Roberts children . Church ... St Andrews Parish Church ( C of E/Anglican, NOT the Roman Catholic St Andrews less than half a mile away) Baptisms... John, born 7 Sep 1790, bapt 1 May 1791, son of Robert Bruce by his wife Margaret Wheatly Isabella, born 16 Dec 1793, bapt 23 June 1793, dtr of Robert Bruce, cordwainer, by his wife Margaret Wheatley. William, born 23 Dec 1795 (tomorrow), bapt 27 March 1796, son of Robert Bruce, by his wife Margaret Wheatly. Mary, born 13 Nov 1798, bapt 24 March 1799, second dtr to Robert Bruce, cordwainer, native of the parish of TANFIELD, by his wife Margaret formerly Wheatly, native of parish of Prudhoe, dtr of William Wheatly. George, born 12 Nov year unclear, 1800 or 1801, bapt 1 Aug 1802, third son of Robert Bruce, Cordwainer, native of Jarrow, by his wife Margaret formerly Wheatly, native of Houghton ( Houghton-le-Spring) As you can see different places so im unsure as to where Robert was born. sue

Hi everybody, Many thanks to Graham and Jean for sending me the 1881 image so quickly. The entry was Mallorie as I had hoped and not Mallone as transcribed. Thanks again, Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris" <edwards05@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:48 PM Subject: [DUR-NBL] census image > Hi all, > Would someone with access to Ancestry please be kind enough to send me a > link to an image of a page from the 1881 census. > > I am currently subscribed to The Genealogist and unfortunately that does > not > have any images from 1881. > > The page I am looking for is; > > Walter Mallone (Mallorie) > 30 Sheraton Street, > Stockton on Tees > Durham > RG11 > Piece / Folio 4899 / 46 > Page Number 32 > > Many thanks, > Chris > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, Would someone with access to Ancestry please be kind enough to send me a link to an image of a page from the 1881 census. I am currently subscribed to The Genealogist and unfortunately that does not have any images from 1881. The page I am looking for is; Walter Mallone (Mallorie) 30 Sheraton Street, Stockton on Tees Durham RG11 Piece / Folio 4899 / 46 Page Number 32 Many thanks, Chris

Carol wrote: >.... > many poor dwellings didnt have fireplaces so the poor used to go to the > bakehouse to pay to have bread baked etc, Many villages had communal bread ovens, see page 101 "Life & Tradition in Northumberland & Durham" by Frank Atkinson for a photograph of one near Ryton c.1900. Regards Alistair Sask., Canada

Those of you with relatives who served in the Australian Armed Services (Army, Navy, Air Service Corps. Nurses) may be interested to hear that the National Archives of Australia this week released on line digital images of the service records of some 375,000 people who served in World War 1. The site is very busy I hear. Go to www.naa.gov.au Ralph in Australia

Does anyone know more about Susannah RICHARDSON? Her husband was John READHEAD the founder of the shipyard. She is reputed to have been born about 1819 in Whitby, North Yorkshire, married on 20 Nov 1842 at St Hilda Souths Shields, and died about 1887 also South Shields. This mainly from a website about the Shipyard, but some confirmed by checking census returns. I'm doing some research for a friend, a family legend says they were related to the Readhead family - the only connection I can see at present would be through a Richardson connection - as that is her surname too. However, it's a very tenuous connection, given the time scale. Many thanks J K

Thanks Neil and Stan - I thought of Washington as soon as I'd posted! Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil MacDonald" <nmcdmail-r@yahoo.co.uk> To: "Durham/Northumberland Mailing List" <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] George Bell marriage indexes > My guesses would be: Whickham, Lamesley, > Houghton-le-Spring, and Washington. > > You can get a list of Durham parishes at: > http://www.joinermarriageindex.com/pjoiner/genuki/DUR/parishes.html > It doesn't give the abbreviations, but you can make a > good guess by looking under the first letter. > Actually, Hetton-le-Hole isn't on that list, but it is > on: > http://www.joinermarriageindex.co.uk/durham.php > That doesn't have the abbreviations either! > > Neil > > --- Jan Moore <janmoore@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> I was in my local Family History society library >> yesterday and copied some entries from the Co Durham >> Marriage indexes by George Bell. >> >> Could anyone help with the abbreviations that >> precede the date? I can guess some like BWM, MWM and >> GAT but would like help with others. >> >> Is there a web page that I could refer to in the >> future? >> >> In the meantime, I'd be grateful to know where is >> meant by: >> >> WHK LAM HSP WAS >> >> and if HLH is Hetton le Hole. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Jan > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My guesses would be: Whickham, Lamesley, Houghton-le-Spring, and Washington. You can get a list of Durham parishes at: http://www.joinermarriageindex.com/pjoiner/genuki/DUR/parishes.html It doesn't give the abbreviations, but you can make a good guess by looking under the first letter. Actually, Hetton-le-Hole isn't on that list, but it is on: http://www.joinermarriageindex.co.uk/durham.php That doesn't have the abbreviations either! Neil --- Jan Moore <janmoore@ntlworld.com> wrote: > I was in my local Family History society library > yesterday and copied some entries from the Co Durham > Marriage indexes by George Bell. > > Could anyone help with the abbreviations that > precede the date? I can guess some like BWM, MWM and > GAT but would like help with others. > > Is there a web page that I could refer to in the > future? > > In the meantime, I'd be grateful to know where is > meant by: > > WHK LAM HSP WAS > > and if HLH is Hetton le Hole. > > Thanks! > > Jan

Hi Alex, According to the 1881 Census Haddock's Buildings were in the area on the south side of Commercial Road, between Portberry Street and Laygate. Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 13/04/2007 15:17:21 GMT Daylight Time, Carolgriff@aol.com writes: some poor souls even went there to die! Im wondering if they didn't have fireplaces to avoid tax as well as maybe simply living in primitive dwellings. ______________________________________________________________ Hi Carol, People were exempt from the Hearth Tax if they were in receipt of poor relief, or inhabited houses worth less than 20 shillings per annum and not paying parish rates. Regards Stan Mapstone

Does anyone know exactly where Haddock's Buildings were? When I first started the search for family members in South Shields, I suspected they were the tenement building on the north corner of Smith Street at the junction with Costorphine Road opposite Readhead's main gate. I remember Cookson's pub on Anderson Street then Charlton's the butcher, next to Fittes' cafe, then a back street, then the tenement building. On the other side of Smith Street was J.T.Henderson, Ships' Insulation and behind the tenement was Robson's boatbuilders. I've looked at all sorts of maps on my visits to England, but have been unable to determine where the buildings were. The Slesser branch of my family lived there. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Best wishes from a snowy (10cm) and cool Montreal Alex Patterson

I was in my local Family History society library yesterday and copied some entries from the Co Durham Marriage indexes by George Bell. Could anyone help with the abbreviations that precede the date? I can guess some like BWM, MWM and GAT but would like help with others. Is there a web page that I could refer to in the future? In the meantime, I'd be grateful to know where is meant by: WHK LAM HSP WAS and if HLH is Hetton le Hole. Thanks! Jan

Thanks again Stan. I am so amazed that even then our poor relatives were affected by taxes- the landlords will have profited by not providing windows! At least by 1850s it sems the value of light and air was deemed necessary. Going off on a tangent, you have made me think of the hearth tax now, I'm thinking about dwellings in Esh Co Durham 1700s (my Millburns came from there)- many poor dwellings didnt have fireplaces so the poor used to go to the bakehouse to pay to have bread baked etc, - some poor souls even went there to die! Im wondering if they didnt have fireplaces to avoid tax as well as maybe simply living in primative dwellings. Hard times- and heres me putting the heating on in Sunderland cos its cold! Carol