In a message dated 19/04/2007 14:50:32 GMT Daylight Time, car9tr@netzero.net writes: The occupation is also unclear. _____________________________________________________ These are the official abbreviations used in the censuses Ag. Lab. 1841-81 Agricultural labourer Ap. 1841-61 Apprentice Army 1841 Members of HM land forces of whatever rank Cl. 1841-61 Clerk FS. 1841 Female servant H.P. 1841 Members of HM armed forces on half-pay Ind. 1841 Independent - people living on their own means J. 1841 Journeyman M. 1841 Manufacturer m. 1841 Maker - as in 'Shoe m.' MS 1841 Male servant Navy 1841 Members of HM naval forces, including marines, of whatever rank P. 1841 Pensioners in HM armed forces Rail Lab. 1851 Railway labourer Serv. 1861 Servant Sh. 1841 Shopman Regards Stan Mapstone

Hello all, If any one knows of any Potts born in Kelloe, East Hetton, Trimdon grange, Coxhoe and Thorpe I would appreciate it very much to hear any thing at all from you. I have back to William b1763 but have nothing much from 1890 onwards. Thank you, Dawn from Perth WA.

In a message dated 19/04/2007 15:41:36 GMT Daylight Time, sue.horn@ntlworld.com writes: Hi ive come across this strange forename Guilielmi / GUILIELMUS .Does anyone know where is originates from ? also what other forenames derive from it. His son had the same name. __________________________________________________ See http://freereg.rootsweb.com/howto/latinnames.htm Guglielmus =William Gulielmus= William Guillelminus =Willemin Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi there Its latin for William so not so strange after all. carol

Hello John All church records were in Latin in the 16th and part of the 17th centuries, and all christian names were "Latinized". They are usually very easy to understand as you can figure out what was being recorded. Regards Elizabeth Yukon, Canada (presently working my way through a superb film of parish reocrds from Docking in Norfolk going back to the mid 1500s at my local Family History Centre - which is where I do most of my research)

In a message dated 18/04/2007 21:32:35 GMT Daylight Time, gwdlehigh@rcn.com writes: The first is St. Paul's church, which I found on old maps, but I can't seem to correlate it on multi maps of today. ______________________________________________________________________ Hi Sandy, Go to http://preview.tinyurl.com/34jsg6 and enter the post code SR1 2AH you will see a school in the centre of the map. This is Hudson Road Primary School, and St. Paul's church was just to the right of the school where the grey road bends. St. Paul's was demolished in the 1960s Regards Stan Mapstone

Norma 1851 Census for Newcastle St. Andrew - ref: HO107/2405 f.81 p.83 14 Princes Street Thomas Simpson Head U a. 22 Stationer b. Northumberland Matfen Margaret Simpsom Sister U a. 31 b. Northumberland Seaton Delaval Margrey Simpson Sister U a. 27 b. Northumberland Seaton Delaval and possibly her in 1841 - the only one born in Northumberland who fits. 1841 Census for Newcastle Westgate - ref HO107/824/13 f.19 p.32 Blenheim Street Jacob Grey a. 39 Draper Yes Jane Grey a. 34 Yes Christopher Ellison a.15 Yes Margery Simpson a. 15 Servant Yes [Yes signifies born in Northumberland] Due to the official rounding down, the age 15 would cover 15-19, but note the Greys have not been rounded down. So no information on father William; and I can't trace Thomas or Margaret in 1841. The names are too common! Neil --- Norma Robuck <nrobuck@houston.rr.com> wrote: > I have a birth certificate for a Florence Dow b. > October 1861 at 44 Bath > Row, Westgate to a Margery Jane Dow formerly > Simpson, husband William C. > Dow commercial traveler. Her father's name was > Thomas Simpson and he is > shown to be a bookkeeper on Margery's marriage > license. One of the > census records show Margery to come from Earsdon, > Seaton Deleval. > > Margery and William married in Liverpool in 1853 but > I am hoping a 1851 > Census records might show her living at home and > possibly William > visiting. Does anyone have easy access to the Census > records, that they > could check for me, steer me in the right direction. > > I note that Seaton Deleval was a mining town and > wondered if Thomas > could have been a bookkeeper there, but although I > checked the site out > that did not come to light. > > Many thanks, > Norma in Texas > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

Hello, Here's Margery Simpson in 1851. She's with her brother Thomas and sister Margaret. Ref. HO 107 2405 Name: Margrey Simpson Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Relation: Sister Gender: Female Where born: Leaton Delabal, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Newcastle Upon Tyne St Andrew Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Newcastle Upon Tyne County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Carol Bradford Syracuse, NY, USA > > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:36:20 -0500 > From: Norma Robuck <nrobuck@houston.rr.com> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] New member researching Dow/Simpson > To: DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4626E3B4.9030204@houston.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > I have a birth certificate for a Florence Dow b. October 1861 at 44 > Bath > Row, Westgate to a Margery Jane Dow formerly Simpson, husband > William C. > Dow commercial traveler. Her father's name was Thomas Simpson and > he is > shown to be a bookkeeper on Margery's marriage license. One of the > census records show Margery to come from Earsdon, Seaton Deleval. > > Margery and William married in Liverpool in 1853 but I am hoping a > 1851 > Census records might show her living at home and possibly William > visiting. Does anyone have easy access to the Census records, that > they > could check for me, steer me in the right direction. > > I note that Seaton Deleval was a mining town and wondered if Thomas > could have been a bookkeeper there, but although I checked the site > out > that did not come to light. > > Many thanks, > Norma in Texas >

In a message dated 18/04/2007 23:22:09 GMT Daylight Time, davidm.allan@ntlworld.com writes: I've never heard of a St Paul's Church in the Hendon area of Sunderland, ______________________________________________________________________ St. Paul’s, Fore Street, Hendon, church consecrated in 1852, rectory 1854 (Ecclesiastical Parish was formed 3rd March 1854). Regards Stan Mapstone Stan, You never cease to amaze me with the speed at which you get the information out to those who need it. You are without doubt a very valuable resource and long may you be out there! Regards... David Allan.

Hi again Sandy, Go to the Durham County Council website link below (Sunderland was once part of County Durham until someone came up with the bright idea of changing the political map and creating the romantic-sounding 'Tyne and Wear'!). http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/usp.nsf/pws/gis+-+online+mapping You need to click on the 'Launch the GIS now' box... Then click using the zoom (+) tool on the 'N' in the placename WASHINGTON... Then click with the same zoom tool four times on the placename HENDON... Roughly in the centre of the map you will see the number 56 in blue... click with the zoom tool on that... Now click with the zoom tool on the road called ROBINSON TERRACE... Click on the same area again and you will see the Raich Carter Leisure Centre. Just above this is Lewis Crescent. Now travel back in time using the box marked 'Current Day' to 'Circa 1951-1959' and you should see FOWLER TERRACE. Any problems following all this, just drop me an e-mail. Regards... David Allan.

> I am now trying to find two places in Hendon. The first is St. > Paul's church, which I found on old maps, but I can't seem to > correlate it on multi maps of today. Is it still there? It is almost > impossible to read most of the Streets on the old map. Would someone > have an old gazetteer that would give the name of the street it is on. Hi Sandy, I've never heard of a St Paul's Church in the Hendon area of Sunderland, but there is a St Paul's Church at Ryhope, about a mile from the Hendon area (it's where I was baptised!). > The old map of Hendon is from 1861-62. The second place I am > looking for is Fowler Terrace and my husbands great grandparents were > living there next door to each other (24 and 26 Fowler Terrace) in > 1863 before they got married. Can someone help me out with where > this is in Hendon, maybe in relationship to the church. As for Fowler Terrace, it no longer exists and in it's place is Lewis Crescent. > What colliery was there at that time and where was that? Hendon, to my knowledge, never had a coal mine/colliery. The nearest was Ryhope Colliery... once again, not very far away and quite close to St Paul's Church! Regards... David Allan.

On Apr 18, 2007, at 6:45 PM, David Allan wrote > Stan, > > You never cease to amaze me with the speed at which you get the > information out to those who need it. You are without doubt a very > valuable resource and long may you be out there! > > Regards... David Allan. > I agree one hundred per cent. Stan is this lists Guru. Thank you again to David and Stan for answering my questions and sharing their knowledge. If I get to meet Stan and David in June I owe each one of them a - pint or something. Sandy

I have a birth certificate for a Florence Dow b. October 1861 at 44 Bath Row, Westgate to a Margery Jane Dow formerly Simpson, husband William C. Dow commercial traveler. Her father's name was Thomas Simpson and he is shown to be a bookkeeper on Margery's marriage license. One of the census records show Margery to come from Earsdon, Seaton Deleval. Margery and William married in Liverpool in 1853 but I am hoping a 1851 Census records might show her living at home and possibly William visiting. Does anyone have easy access to the Census records, that they could check for me, steer me in the right direction. I note that Seaton Deleval was a mining town and wondered if Thomas could have been a bookkeeper there, but although I checked the site out that did not come to light. Many thanks, Norma in Texas

Thanks for that Yvonne As I live at the wrong end of the country, do you know if there is any way I can view them remotely? In the meantime, I will contact the library and see if they can suggest anything. Heather Yvonne Purdy wrote: > Dear Janis and Heather, > > Hexham Library holds several books of transcribed Birth, Marriage and > Death > records, of Hexham and surrounding parishes. The Library has a website > with it's contact details. > > Regards, > Yvonne > From: The Quineys [[mailto:pquiney@post.com] > Sent: 17 April 2007 19:59 > To: Janis Noonan; DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] WALTON = CHISHOLM of HEXHAM > > > Hello Janis > > Yes, this is the right family with the correct children. This is about > as far as I got as well (using the IGI and the George Bell Collection > via GENUKI). > > Do you know if anyone has transcribed the records (partially or in their > entirety)? And whether they would be available to view on-line, or to > purchase on CD or ffiche? > > Regards > Heather > << > > > > Janis Noonan wrote: >> After a little detective work: >> >> Thomas Walton and Ann Chisholme married in Hexham 25 Jan 1817 Witnesses: >> Georrge Walton and Mary Chisholme >> >> Children with parents names of Thomas and Ann in Hexham (from IGI) >> >> Wilam Walton baptised 28 Dec 1817 >> William Walton 7 June 1818 >> Margaret Walton 31 Oct 1819 >> Mary Walton 27 May 1821 >> >> Janis > > > > >

In a message dated 18/04/2007 23:22:09 GMT Daylight Time, davidm.allan@ntlworld.com writes: I've never heard of a St Paul's Church in the Hendon area of Sunderland, ______________________________________________________________________ St. Paul’s, Fore Street, Hendon, church consecrated in 1852, rectory 1854 (Ecclesiastical Parish was formed 3rd March 1854). Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 18/04/2007 21:32:35 GMT Daylight Time, gwdlehigh@rcn.com writes: And does anyone know what colliery was there at that time and where was that? ___________________________________________________________ It was Wearmouth Colliery, in Monkwearmouth just to the north of the river. Sunderland Football Clubs Stadium of Light is on the site of the colliery. You can see that on the aerial photo as well. Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 18/04/2007 21:32:35 GMT Daylight Time, gwdlehigh@rcn.com writes: The first is St. Paul's church, which I found on old maps, but I can't seem to correlate it on multi maps of today. ____________________________________________________________ Hi Sandy The whole area has been redeveloped and all the old buildings demolished as well as the church. Go to http://local.live.com/ for excellent aerial photographs of Sunderland as it is now. Regards Stan Mapstone

----- Original Message ----- From: <Mettinghammolly@aol.com> To: <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: [DUR-NBL] Raich Carter > Fascinating what you pick up reading emails on the list. > Raich Carter was a relation of mine and now I know what school he went to. > Many thanks. > > Just out of interest, I went to the Sunderland museum and they got out a > box > of artifacts that once belonged to Raich and got a private viewing. It > was > fantastic. > Barbara Also The Best Footballer ever to play for Hull City I saw him play when I was a boy and met him each time he came to watch City when I was a Steward here TT

Greetings First I want to thank Philip,David, Margaret,Stan and Ann as well as others for recent help that is very much appreciated. I am now trying to find two places in Hendon. The first is St. Paul's church, which I found on old maps, but I can't seem to correlate it on multi maps of today. Is it still there? It is almost impossible to read most of the Streets on the old map. Would someone have an old gazetteer that would give the name of the street it is on. The old map of Hendon is from 1861-62. The second place I am looking for is Fowler Terrace and my husbands great grandparents were living there next door to each other (24 and 26 Fowler Terrace) in 1863 before they got married. Can someone help me out with where this is in Hendon, maybe in relationship to the church. And does anyone know what colliery was there at that time and where was that? Sorry for asking so many questions. I would like to see these places when we come visit in June if they are still there. Thank you for any direction anyone can give. Sandy Bethlehem Pennsylvania USA

Dear Janis and Heather, Hexham Library holds several books of transcribed Birth, Marriage and Death records, of Hexham and surrounding parishes. The Library has a website with it's contact details. Regards, Yvonne >> From: The Quineys [mailto:pquiney@post.com] Sent: 17 April 2007 19:59 To: Janis Noonan; DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] WALTON = CHISHOLM of HEXHAM Hello Janis Yes, this is the right family with the correct children. This is about as far as I got as well (using the IGI and the George Bell Collection via GENUKI). Do you know if anyone has transcribed the records (partially or in their entirety)? And whether they would be available to view on-line, or to purchase on CD or fiche? Regards Heather << Janis Noonan wrote: > After a little detective work: > > Thomas Walton and Ann Chisholme married in Hexham 25 Jan 1817 Witnesses: > Georrge Walton and Mary Chisholme > > Children with parents names of Thomas and Ann in Hexham (from IGI) > > Wilam Walton baptised 28 Dec 1817 > William Walton 7 June 1818 > Margaret Walton 31 Oct 1819 > Mary Walton 27 May 1821 > > Janis