Hello Nora, I have CARTER relatives who left Co. Durham in the 1840s and 1850s and have had no success either finding them on ship manifests. I'd love to know how they got to the US. This is not a problem with Yorkshire or Irish emigrants from the same era who have been fairly easy to find in passenger records. Carol B On Mar 19, 2009, at 11:55 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Emmigration records? (Nora Avery)

Hello Nora - I checked on ancestry.com, which is not free, but I am a member and don't mind looking up for you, and I found in the 1851 England census a William Avery born c 1826 in Long Benton, Northumberland and Margaret born there in 1829 and Jane born there in 1850 all now living in the Civil Parish of Seaton Delaval?, Northumberland. Assuming this is your family, I also found on ancestry in the England and Wales Christening records, 1530-1906 a christening record for a William Avery baptised 5 Mar 1826 in Long Benton, Northumberland, father listed as William Avery and mother listed as Elizabeth. The only William Avery I can find born near 1826 in Northumberland in the 1841 census is a 15 year old boy living with a farming famly (Dixon) in Heaton, All Saints, Northumberland working as a forgiman, whatever that is. Not sure if this helps, let me know if I can search something else for you. Linda U Windsor, Ontario, Canada Nora Avery <[email protected]> Sent by: [email protected] 19/03/2009 11:23 AM To [email protected] cc Subject [DUR-NBL] Emmigration records? Where would I go online to search (free?) records of those who left England in the mid 1800s for other countries? In particular I'm interested in my g-g'parents: William Avery (abt 25), wife Margaret Dawson Avery (abt 22), and baby daughter Jane Ann Avery (abt 1 year) who show up on the 1851 census in New Hartley, NBL. I have a copy of his citizenship document issued on 20 Oct 1856 in Allegany County, Maryland, USA. In that document it says he appeared before the clerk on 19 Sep 1854 to declare his intent to become a citizen. It also says (but this is not substantiated by any other documents) that "...said William Avery has continued to reside within the limits and under the jusisdiction of the United States for the last five years..." So, if I take five years off of the date of 20 October 1856 I arrive at October 1851. I am assuming that after the June 1851 census he left for America, but I haven't found the family on any ship's records for late 1851. I thought I'd look at the country of exit and see what I could find there. Any direction? Thank you. Nora Avery Gainesville, Florida, USA ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== To Post a message to this list send it to, [email protected] ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== List Web Page http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Where would I go online to search (free?) records of those who left England in the mid 1800s for other countries? In particular I'm interested in my g-g'parents: William Avery (abt 25), wife Margaret Dawson Avery (abt 22), and baby daughter Jane Ann Avery (abt 1 year) who show up on the 1851 census in New Hartley, NBL. I have a copy of his citizenship document issued on 20 Oct 1856 in Allegany County, Maryland, USA. In that document it says he appeared before the clerk on 19 Sep 1854 to declare his intent to become a citizen. It also says (but this is not substantiated by any other documents) that "...said William Avery has continued to reside within the limits and under the jusisdiction of the United States for the last five years..." So, if I take five years off of the date of 20 October 1856 I arrive at October 1851. I am assuming that after the June 1851 census he left for America, but I haven't found the family on any ship's records for late 1851. I thought I'd look at the country of exit and see what I could find there. Any direction? Thank you. Nora Avery Gainesville, Florida, USA

1. Are there any free websites with searchable UK census lists? 2. Are there any free websites where one can scroll through original images of census reports? Nora Avery Gainesville, Florida, USA

>From the 1911census.co.uk team If you have an ancestor in Gateshead – please bear with us. Due to a peculiarity in the administration of the 1911 census, the area was enumerated as part of Northumberland, rather than with Durham, and the records will be added as part of Northumberland in accordance with the way the census was taken. Stan Mapstone

Jeff, if the birthplace isn't in the 10 credit transcript, it *probably* isn't on the original image (30 credits). There are a few things that are deliberately left out of the transcripts but this isn't one of them. However, if in doubt use the 1911 blog and browse through the comments, or add your own comment/question. Ian Jeff Butler wrote: > I have the 10 credit census where a 6 year child that has no birth place, would that be on the 30 credit one? and are people finding much difference between the two as far as surnames. I have one surname in Parkin on my census that I can not find a birth for her around the date it say's on the census. > For all people that have the surname of Marquis look under Margins > Jeff >

Looks like I'm in the same boat John, I have several family members in Gateshead & not one has come up yet. Regards Arthur South Australia 2009/3/19 John <[email protected]> > Can anyone tell me why the find my past website states that Durham is now > available when in fact a lot of it is not. I know I have ancestors living in > Gateshead, Sunderland & Durham City at that time but it keeps coming up no > results found. > Cheers, John > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (5.5.0.212) > Database version: 5.11990 > http://www.pctools.com/uk/internet-security/ > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > [email protected] > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi I have just recieved a death certificate for a great uncle. The informant for the death is described as Step-son-in-law. As it is as late as 1967 should I take it literally, ie. that it is his step daughters husband? Look forward to your thoughts on it Caroline ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today.

Hi Stan Thanks so much for that. It ties in with information I have from a record from the Primitive Methodists of a later date. Apparently they were chosen for prosecution, being sober and respected lay preachers, because they would make better examples. The manager agreed that they had opposed the strike but that made no difference. The treadmill destroyed the health of one of them who died upon his release. I claim Alexander WATSON as mine as I believe he was a Primitive Methodist at a time when there were only about 150 in the area. Years later his grandson, also Alexander, who had built a fair sized business in Bedlington, would rant at his workers if they sought extra work out of hours. "My grandfather went to prison to secure those rights for you". Regards Peter in NZ

Hello Listers Last week I listed my ROBERTSON & SIMM/SIMMS family interests in South Shields but received not one reply, which is strange considering the number of Robertson family descendants with origins in South Shields. I will now try to seek out others who may be researching my WATSON and RENNISON/ RENOLDSON family interests from South Shields. Joseph WATSON bn c. 1795 Married Isabella BRADFORD at Heworth Parish, Jarrow, Durham, England on 29 Jul 1810 Children: Isabella (1813-dec.) , Joseph (c. 1816-dec.) Robert Jobson (c. 1818-1882) (my 2x G.Grandfather) , James (c. 1822-dec.) Jane (c. 1828-dec.). Family stories, of what could be Joseph's father or uncle, tell of this ancestor having been press-ganged into service at sea during the Napoleonic Wars. During service he contracted T.B. and other ailments to the extent he was discharged unfit for service. He retuned home and when his wife answered the his door knock she didn't even recognise him at first rejecting him as a beggar. I have no record of Joseph's parents or earlier ancestors. Note: The RENOLDSON family have various spelling versions of their name. In Shilbottle, originally named RENOLDSON, then in Lesbury RENNISON / and in South Shields RENNOLDSON / RANDLESON. The patriarch of this family was Thomas RENOLDSON who m. ANN BROWN at Shilbottle on 20 Jun 1699os. Ephraim RENNISON bn. Shilbottle, 30 Aug 1747os, Father: John RENOLDSON Mother: Isabella MATTISON married Phillis WYNDHAM at Lesbury, 01 Jul 1773. Buried St Hilda's 23 Oct 1785 Children: Margaret FARRADAY (1774-dec.) John (1775-1775) Isabel (1777-dec.) Barbara (1779-dec.) Phillis (c. 1781-1785) Windham (c. 1783-1824) (my 3xg.g) who married Mary Lesley and whose dau. Barbara m. Robert Jobson WATSON mentioned above. Sarah (c. 1785-1789) Kind regards to all Alan Bird Brisbane Qld Aust.

There will be numerous transcription errors as there are in the other censuses Stan Mapstone

Here is the latest addition to their blog. Just to let you know that although Newcastle and Gateshead were in the county of Durham in 1911, for the purposes of the census they were enumerated and collected as part of Northumberland. Hence records covering this area will be released with Northumberland records. It doesn't inspire a lot of confidence, does it? Colin

I am a new subscriber. I am interested in the coalminer's strike of 1859 in the Seaton Delaval area. I believe that my Gt Gt Grandfather Alexander WATSON was one of the eight sentenced to 2 months on the treadmill at Morpeth prison. They were all churchmen and were used as examples. Can anyone supply information or point me in the right direction. Peter in NZ

Hello again, That didnt look right when posted. What I meant was look for Mc(space)Something Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew McCletchie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] 1911 census Durham > Hello everyone, > > And if you are having trouble finding McSomething, you may find them as Mc > Something > > Cheers > > Andrew > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] 1911 census Durham > > >> In a message dated 18/03/2009 15:36:41 GMT Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> I know I have ancestors living in Gateshead, Sunderland & Durham City at >> that time but it keeps coming up no results found. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> >> Have you tried advanced search? You have the option to select >> Exact name >> Variants of name >> Names starting with >> Wildcard name >> >> Stan Mapstone > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > [email protected] > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone, And if you are having trouble finding McSomething, you may find them as Mc Something Cheers Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] 1911 census Durham > In a message dated 18/03/2009 15:36:41 GMT Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > I know I have ancestors living in Gateshead, Sunderland & Durham City at > that time but it keeps coming up no results found. > ______________________________________________________________ > > Have you tried advanced search? You have the option to select > Exact name > Variants of name > Names starting with > Wildcard name > > Stan Mapstone

Hi folks, Joy and jubilation! Durham and Nth Yorkshire are released. My father was easily found on the 1911 census, aged 21 and living in the house in Ferryhill I have actually seen on two UK visits, with his uncle and aunt. No surprises there. I had wondered who had filled in the census form, seeing his uncle was not the greatest at reading and writing. Well, it was Dad himself. Therefore hs name correct, not Thomas or Tomas, as earlier ennumerators had written. Like his uncle, and later a nephew and great nephew, he is just Tom. However the occupation is my query - I did not ask enough questions. Can someone explain what a hand putter does. His uncle is a hewer. I will follow through with further queries as I collate the info. Shirley Thomson New Plymouth New Zealand Researching: SIMPSON, WRIGHT, CLARKE (Bedale, Yks), RAW, BEAN (Bradford & Swaledale, Yks), FLOWER, HARRISON, LAMBERT, SCORER (Co Durham), ASHDOWN, ARNSBY, CAMP (London & Middlesex), TREWEEK, CHAPMAN, PRYNN, LOBB (Cornwall), FERGUSS0N, CLARK, BLACKLEY, RODDAN (Dumfriesshire), THOMSON, SCOTT (Angus)

Thanks to all that replied to my question, guess I'll just have to wait until Northumberland comes on line. Cheers, John E-mail message checked by Internet Security (5.5.0.212) Database version: 5.11990 http://www.pctools.com/uk/internet-security/

Has anyone had a problem with parts of this web site? I tried to link from the menu item "Workers" which supposedly goes to an employee index, but my antivirus block it saying the page was infected. Another link was blocked by Firefox because there was an attempt at redirection, ie an assumption that it may have been an attempt to redirect me to a dodgy site. Ian

Can anyone tell me if there is anywhere on the net I will be able to read South Shields Local paper from about 1914 -1920 Many thanks Bob

I had the same problem with my G Grandmother in Surrey. I eventually found her with Ilsley transcribed as Pohley. I had to make my search as broad as possible using Christian names and year and place of birth and eventually found her. Keep trying! ________________________________ From: gen listlass <[email protected]> To: DUR-NBL list <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 18 March, 2009 4:40:53 PM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] 1911 census Durham > Can anyone tell me why the find my past website states that Durham is now available when in fact a lot of it is not. I know I have ancestors living in Gateshead, Sunderland & Durham City at that time but it keeps coming up no results found. I did the quick search for my grandparents in Ryton on the 1911 site. It said they were both there in Ryton. So I paid my £6.50 and did the extended search. That said they are NOT there..... grrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Their names were unusual so I wasn't looking at someone else on the initial search. Grumpy Old Woman aka Gen in NBL