My ISP did something funny. There are no a,b,c, etc. in the original questionnaire. Sandi ----- Original Message ----- From: Mme N. Carmichael To: [email protected] ; Sandra Trapp Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] FFHS-NEWS FFHS News - HMCS Questionnaire Hello Sandi, I started out to reply and then realized that not all of the questions are in your post i.e. 'b', 'd', 'f', 'h' and 'j' are missing. Can you repost please? Regards, Adi --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Sandra Trapp <[email protected]> wrote: From: Sandra Trapp <[email protected]> Subject: [DUR-NBL] FFHS-NEWS FFHS News - HMCS Questionnaire To: [email protected] Received: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:08 AM In case some of you have not seen this. Sandi John Briden HMCS (Her Majesty's Courts Service) is hoping to get the Probate Calendar Indexes to Wills and Grants, issued since 1858 in England and Wales online. The index includes the full name and address of the deceased and date of death. See http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1226.htm He has put together a short questionnaire and would like to receive as many responses as possible by Friday 27th March. I realise that this is very short notice but if you are able to help by responding to John it would be appreciated. Copy and paste the questions below into an email, add your answers and send your responses to [email protected] a.. Q1. If the probate calendar was available on the internet, would you use it? b.. c.. Q2. If you would use it - how often would you use it? d.. e.. Q3. What probate information would you be interested in seeing online, and why that particular information? f.. g.. Q4. Would you like to order copies online, and be prepared to pay for them online? h.. i.. Q5. Would you prefer to access the calendar online, but order and pay for copies by post, or by telephone? j.. k.. Q6. Would you be prepared to pay a premium to the fee, in addition to the normal cost for a more immediate service? Mauren Bullows Archives Liaison Officer Email: [email protected] www.ffhs.org.uk This email has been sent by: The Federation of Family History Societies a Company Limited by Guarantee Company Number 2930189 (England & Wales) - Registered Charity Number 1038721 Registered Office: Artillery House, 15 Byrom Street, Manchester, England M3 4PF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ ffhs-news mailing list [email protected] http://ffhs-lists.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/ffhs-news_ffhs-lists.org.uk ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== To Post a message to this list send it to, [email protected] ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== List Web Page http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!
In case some of you have not seen this. Sandi John Briden HMCS (Her Majesty's Courts Service) is hoping to get the Probate Calendar Indexes to Wills and Grants, issued since 1858 in England and Wales online. The index includes the full name and address of the deceased and date of death. See http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1226.htm He has put together a short questionnaire and would like to receive as many responses as possible by Friday 27th March. I realise that this is very short notice but if you are able to help by responding to John it would be appreciated. Copy and paste the questions below into an email, add your answers and send your responses to [email protected] a.. Q1. If the probate calendar was available on the internet, would you use it? b.. c.. Q2. If you would use it - how often would you use it? d.. e.. Q3. What probate information would you be interested in seeing online, and why that particular information? f.. g.. Q4. Would you like to order copies online, and be prepared to pay for them online? h.. i.. Q5. Would you prefer to access the calendar online, but order and pay for copies by post, or by telephone? j.. k.. Q6. Would you be prepared to pay a premium to the fee, in addition to the normal cost for a more immediate service? Mauren Bullows Archives Liaison Officer Email: [email protected] www.ffhs.org.uk This email has been sent by: The Federation of Family History Societies a Company Limited by Guarantee Company Number 2930189 (England & Wales) - Registered Charity Number 1038721 Registered Office: Artillery House, 15 Byrom Street, Manchester, England M3 4PF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ ffhs-news mailing list [email protected] http://ffhs-lists.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/ffhs-news_ffhs-lists.org.uk
Thanks, Nivard. That's what I thought, but I wanted to be sure. Regards, Adi --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: From: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] FFHS-NEWS FFHS News - HMCS Questionnaire To: "Mme N. Carmichael" <[email protected]>, [email protected], "Sandra Trapp" <[email protected]> Received: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:40 AM Hi Adi I have no idea where the a, b, c etc came from in Sandi's mail but there are only 6 questions This is what it should look like :- Copy and paste the questions below into an email, add your answers and send your responses to [email protected] Q1. If the probate calendar was available on the internet, would you use it? Q2. If you would use it - how often would you use it? Q3. What probate information would you be interested in seeing online, and why that particular information? Q4. Would you like to order copies online, and be prepared to pay for them online? Q5. Would you prefer to access the calendar online, but order and pay for copies by post, or by telephone? Q6. Would you be prepared to pay a premium to the fee, in addition to the normal cost for a more immediate service? Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) Hello Sandi, I started out to reply and then realized that not all of the questions are in your post i.e. 'b', 'd', 'f', 'h' and 'j' are missing. Can you repost please? Regards, Adi __________________________________________________________________ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com
Hello Sandi, I started out to reply and then realized that not all of the questions are in your post i.e. 'b', 'd', 'f', 'h' and 'j' are missing. Can you repost please? Regards, Adi --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Sandra Trapp <[email protected]> wrote: From: Sandra Trapp <[email protected]> Subject: [DUR-NBL] FFHS-NEWS FFHS News - HMCS Questionnaire To: [email protected] Received: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:08 AM In case some of you have not seen this. Sandi John Briden HMCS (Her Majesty's Courts Service) is hoping to get the Probate Calendar Indexes to Wills and Grants, issued since 1858 in England and Wales online. The index includes the full name and address of the deceased and date of death. See http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1226.htm He has put together a short questionnaire and would like to receive as many responses as possible by Friday 27th March. I realise that this is very short notice but if you are able to help by responding to John it would be appreciated. Copy and paste the questions below into an email, add your answers and send your responses to [email protected] a.. Q1. If the probate calendar was available on the internet, would you use it? b.. c.. Q2. If you would use it - how often would you use it? d.. e.. Q3. What probate information would you be interested in seeing online, and why that particular information? f.. g.. Q4. Would you like to order copies online, and be prepared to pay for them online? h.. i.. Q5. Would you prefer to access the calendar online, but order and pay for copies by post, or by telephone? j.. k.. Q6. Would you be prepared to pay a premium to the fee, in addition to the normal cost for a more immediate service? Mauren Bullows Archives Liaison Officer Email: [email protected] www.ffhs.org.uk This email has been sent by: The Federation of Family History Societies a Company Limited by Guarantee Company Number 2930189 (England & Wales) - Registered Charity Number 1038721 Registered Office: Artillery House, 15 Byrom Street, Manchester, England M3 4PF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ ffhs-news mailing list [email protected] http://ffhs-lists.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/ffhs-news_ffhs-lists.org.uk ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== To Post a message to this list send it to, [email protected] ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== List Web Page http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/
It's been some time since I posted my interests! HINDMARSH Variously of Ovingham area, Lilburn Tower and Elswick (Newcastle) - from 1700s to 1900s respectively Any takers? Ray
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Heather Do you have descendents of your FORSTER family?? Mine were in about that same location about 100 years later, so perhaps the same family???? John FORSTER bpt 8 May 1745 at Ryton married Margaret COWPER of Ovingham 1 Jan 1772 at Ovingham Their 8th child Adam FORSTER b 1790 was my ancestor Heather Heather Old wrote: > I have Isabel HINDMARSH married 6th May 1718 Bywell StAndrews > to George FORSTER of Nafferton Ovingham > Possible baptism 5th Jan 1696/7 Bywell StAndrews daughter of Edward > HYMERS > Possible burial 20 June 1781 Isabel FORSTER widow Nafferton,Ovingham > >
--- On Wed, 25/3/09, Dr Ray Morris <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Dr Ray Morris <[email protected]> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] HINDMARSH > To: [email protected] > Received: Wednesday, 25 March, 2009, 11:08 AM > It's been some time since I posted my interests! > > HINDMARSH > > Variously of Ovingham area, Lilburn Tower and Elswick > (Newcastle) - from > 1700s to 1900s respectively > > Any takers? > > Ray > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== Hi Ray I have Isabel HINDMARSH married 6th May 1718 Bywell StAndrews to George FORSTER of Nafferton Ovingham Possible baptism 5th Jan 1696/7 Bywell StAndrews daughter of Edward HYMERS Possible burial 20 June 1781 Isabel FORSTER widow Nafferton,Ovingham Heather Get the world's best email - http://nz.mail.yahoo.com/
Hi Ray I'll go with this one - just in case there's anyone out there! Dorothy Hindmarsh bpt 13 Sep 1803 at Netherwitton dau of Luke Hindmarsh and Mary Tate Dorothy married William HUNTLEY 4 Jun 1798 to 31 Oct 1872 on 7 Jul 1823 at Hartburn Their first son John Hindmarsh HUNTLEY bpt 30 Nov 1823 at Acklington was our ancestor. Heather Dr Ray Morris wrote: > It's been some time since I posted my interests! > > HINDMARSH > > Variously of Ovingham area, Lilburn Tower and Elswick (Newcastle) - from > 1700s to 1900s respectively > > Any takers? > > >
Hi Adi. The marriage bond was a promise by two people, normally the groom and a friend or relative, to pay the church a very substantial sum of money if the marriage proved to be invalid. According to various books some second Bondsman were usually a legal fiction, "John Doe" having offered more collateral than anyone else. The names, and parishes, of the two bondsmen with their occupations are given, together with the names, ages and parishes, of the couple getting married. A visit to the clergyman issuing the licence resulted in three documents. An allegation or affidavit, a marriage bond and the licence. The marriage licence was given to the parties concerned and normally does not survive. The allegations were on printed forms with spaces for the relevant details. This is a typical Marriage Allegation, with fictitious details Date Nov. 15 1788 On which day appeared personally John Smith Of the Parish of Wedmore in the County of Somerset And Diocese of Wells and being sworn on the Holy Evangelist Alleged and made Oath as follows: That he is of the age of Twenty five Years and intends to marry with Elizabeth Brown of the parish of Wedmore Afore said Spinster of the age of Twenty Years. Not knowing of believing any lawful Let or Impediment by Reason of any Precontract entered into before the 25th Day of March 1754, Consanguinity, Affinity, or any other Cause whatsoever, to hinder the said intended Marriage. And he prayed a Licence to solemnize the said Marriage in the Church of Wedmore aforesaid in which said Parish of Wedmore the said Elizabeth Brown hath had her usual Abode for the space of four Weeks past. The said John Smith was Sworn the Day and Year first above written Before me Wm. Priddy Surrogate Regards Stan Mapstone
Hello all, As I have never yet seen one, what information am I apt to find if I buy an image of a Durham marriage bond c1750? I already know the first given names of the bride and groom, their surnames, the date, the name of the church and that neither was underage. I don't know the names of any of their parents or how long they had been in that parish. Did the bride-to-be and the groom-to-be both sign the bond? That would tell me if they were literate. What else if anything could I hope to find? Regards, Adi __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca
Hi Ron With marriages it should be the same information in both cases Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) My GGGgrandparents were married on 9 March 1840 at the 'Parish Church in the Parish of Stockton in the County of Durham'. Can anyone tell me if the church records would show any additional information to that shown on the marriage certificate? Best regards, Ron Alexander
My GGGgrandparents were married on 9 March 1840 at the Parish Church in the Parish of Stockton in the County of Durham. Can anyone tell me if the church records would show any additional information to that shown on the marriage certificate? Best regards, Ron Alexander
My Interests are LIDDELL JOHNSON ARMSTRONG CHARLTON GEE and PLACE William LIDDELL bn 1805 married an Isabella?? both of Winlayton 5 children Thomas bn 1826 Jane George Mary and the youngest Robert bn 1841 child 2 George married Mary ARMSTRONG they had 7 children Emma John Isabella Robert Mary Annie and Hannah dau of George and Mary A Mary married Anthony PLACE 28 Apr 1889 Haltwhistle 5 children 1st bn 1889 Jane Mary John George and Anthony child 3 Mary bn 1840 in Blaydon to William and Isabella married Samuel JOHNSON, 16 Oct 1859 Gateshead Samuel was the oldest of 3 boys bn to William and Jane JOHNSON of County Down Ireland in 1839 William 1841 and James 1848 born Ire. followed by Horace bn Bellington 1849 and David 1850 Sam and Mary have 8 children Isabella is the 6th child bn 1870 in Blaydon she married Edward Richard CHARLTON bn 1868 in Kirkwhelpingham they have 4 children ..this family of 6 migrated to Australia 1909 Edward is the son of James CHARLTON bn 1839 Hartburn Wallington and Mary Ann GEE bn 1837 Kirknewton Paston Isabella and Edward are my ggrandparents Christene
In a message dated 22/03/2009 22:31:58 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Can anyone tell me if the church records would show any additional information to that shown on the marriage certificate? ______________________________________________________________________________ ____ After the introduction of Civil Registration in 1837 the Church Record is the marriage certificate. There are two marriage register books, one is kept with the church records and the duplicate is returned to the Superintendent Registrar when full. If you order a certified copy from the local Register Office then it is taken from this register. If you get one from the GRO then it is taken from the quarterly return which is a certified copy of the one at the church. Stan Mapstone
Further to what Stan has posted, my Dad started down the pit aged 14 in 1934 and was for the early part of his working life a "Pony Driver" but according to him you did not drive the pony, but lead it. And the way you led it was by allowing it to hold your hand in its mouth. Now anybody who has worked with horses and ponies will will know that when they want to they can give a nasty bite, so I asked him why they did things that way and he said it was so that the pony would know that you trusted it. Apparently they would not move without a hand in their mouth, except for the last stretch back to their (underground) stables. Cheers Steve Sandra Trapp wrote: > Hello Listers, > > The 1911 census shows a relative listed as a pony driver below ground. I > have a pretty good idea what this is, but if anyone has a good description, > I would appreciate having it. > > Also, this relative is listed as 15 years old. I am wondering what the > child labor laws were in 1911 and a few years back. I would like to know > how long he could have been working at this employment. > > Thanks. > > Sandi in the U.S. > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > [email protected] > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Hi Joyce I suspect you may have more luck if you break down each surname with at least some dates and places particularly with such common names Fishing with surnames is generally a rather fruitless proposition on lists but without a bit more information even more so If you have any more specific questions all the better Happy to help but need to know what it is you need help with :-) Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) I am new to the group. Here are the surnames I am researching in Gateshead and Newcastle: JONES SMITH WILSON WATTS. No kidding! Joyce Carr, Ontario, Canada
BONARIUS / HARDY I am researching my husband's BONARIUS ancestors, Johann Daniel, a soldier in the Kings German Legion at the Battle of Waterloo, and his wife Charlotte Rebecca HARDING. It is thought that all people bearing the surname BONARIUS in the UK are descended from this couple. Between 1815 and 1833 Johann Daniel (known as Daniel) and Charlotte had nine children - Daniel, Mary Ann, Charles, Walter Devereux, James, William John, Philip, Rebecca Ellen and John Charles. Most of the family remained in and around the London area for an extended period of time but one son, John Charles, emigrated to Australia and started a line in New South Wales. My husband's descent is from William John. Another son, James, went to Co. Durham and founded a large family in that area. It is this family which intrigues us as, between 1871 and 1881, some members of the family started to use the surname HARDY whilst others kept their original surname. Census entries between as late as 1911 appear to show that descendents of James continue to swap between the two surnames. Some members of this extended family are shown in the GRO birth indexes as BONARIUS with marriages or deaths registered in either surname. Others may have been registered at birth as HARDY and reverted to BONARIUS. The surname BONARIUS is also frequently mistranscribed in Census entries and FreeBMD and I have corrected many as I come across them. Some entries are incorrectly spelt in the original GRO indexes! I would be very interested to hear from anyone from the County Durham area (or elsewhere) who carries the surname BONARIUS or who has knowledge of the duel use of BONARIUS and HARDY surnames. We have a great deal of information concerning the ancestry of Johann Daniel BONARIUS to share with proven descendents.
Its a while since I posted so here's my list: DAVIDSON DAVISON LITTLE LIDDLE LIDDELL Places: Low Moralee Nr Wark NBL 1788 but where from? and where to? Thank you Julian Lovegrove 21 Seafield Road Broadstairs Kent CT10 2DD England _________________________________________________________________ Free photo editing software from Windows Live . Try it now! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665240/direct/01/
I am new to the group. Here are the surnames I am researching in Gateshead and Newcastle: JONES SMITH WILSON WATTS. No kidding! Joyce Carr, Ontario, Canada