Paula Thank you for that information. Unknown child (4) I suppose could be George as the birth year would be about right, being in between Peter (1812) and Thomas (1819). On the other hand, could it have been an infant death? At that period, would still births etc have been named or listed as un-named? I am not that experienced at genealogy and don't know the various conventions etc. I shall have a dig about and see if I can turn up anything. I have previously looked at Judith's site but not in depth. Thanks again. Ian Paula Medcalf wrote: > Ian, > > Here is some info on my Maw Family. I've only sent the immediate family at > the moment, but can send more if you think there might be a connection. I > don't have a name for 'Child 4' and I note that I got this information from > Judith Lauwens and haven't substantiated it myself, but the date is about > right. Have you come across the Lauwens' Maw website? I can give you the > contact details if not. > > Hope this helps! > > Paula >

I have recently found a relative who died in WWI, all I have is his Tyneside RN number Is there anyway of finding out any more info on him. Thank you Bob

You may not remember but I went back and forth with many of you (Nivard, John, Stan, and Margaret) regarding a birth certificate for Jane Ann AVERY born 1850 in Longbenton to William AVERY and Margaret DAWSON. You all helped me get things sorted out and so I ordered it on-line, paid with a US credit card and just today received a paper copy in the mail all the way from jolly old England. And now I have the link I've been hoping for--William and Margaret AVERY were my great grandparents. Jane Ann AVERY was the older sister to my grandfather James Henry AVERY born here in the states. Thank you all so very much for your help and suggestions. I greatly appreciate all the information you so willingly and selflessly provided. Thank you! Nora Avery Gainesville, Florida

Hi Nivard, Many thanks for your very quick reply. I'll try as you suggest. Details also received. Thank you again, Gillian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> To: "R Smith" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] DURHAM WILLS > Hi Gillian > > You don't say where you are so take it as you find it > > You would need to search the Nationwide Calendars of wills to see if a > will was proved or letters of administration granted > > The probate offices have them as do major lending libraries I am told, I > believe the LDS also have them on film or fiche (not sure how recent but > think its 1940's there) > > But far and away the easiest way is to send to > http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/ > with a request giving the year and place of death, it costs five pounds > (non returnable if nothing found) which is cheaper than a gallon of petrol > so perhaps the best way > > I will send details off list > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > > > >> Hello, >> >> Is there someone who could please tell me where to look for a possible >> will >> of someone who died in the 1920's in Hartlepool, County Durham. I've >> never >> searched for wills before so any advice would be most helpful. >> >> Many thanks, >> Gillian > >

Hi Gillian You don't say where you are so take it as you find it You would need to search the Nationwide Calendars of wills to see if a will was proved or letters of administration granted The probate offices have them as do major lending libraries I am told, I believe the LDS also have them on film or fiche (not sure how recent but think its 1940's there) But far and away the easiest way is to send to http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/ with a request giving the year and place of death, it costs five pounds (non returnable if nothing found) which is cheaper than a gallon of petrol so perhaps the best way I will send details off list Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Hello, > > Is there someone who could please tell me where to look for a possible > will > of someone who died in the 1920's in Hartlepool, County Durham. I've > never > searched for wills before so any advice would be most helpful. > > Many thanks, > Gillian

Hello, Is there someone who could please tell me where to look for a possible will of someone who died in the 1920's in Hartlepool, County Durham. I've never searched for wills before so any advice would be most helpful. Many thanks, Gillian

In a message dated 31/03/2009 21:10:58 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Is there someone who could please tell me where to look for a possible will of someone who died in the 1920's in Hartlepool, County Durham. I've never searched for wills before so any advice would be most helpful. ___________________________________________________________________ Hi Gillian, See http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1183.htm You can download the application form at http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/forms/pa1s_0405.pdf Or you can contact your local Probate Registry Stan Mapstone

Does SKS have a layout plan of the above cemetery, or can provide a link to same? Many thanks Ruth in Hambledon, Hampshire "The Cradle of Cricket"

No problem Paula, any time will do, I'm just grateful for your help. Ian Paula Medcalf wrote: > Ian, > > Sorry, I haven't had a chance to send you anything yet but will get > something over to you next week. You never know, there might be a > connection. > > Paula

In a message dated 29/03/2009 17:08:45 GMT Daylight Time, Mycottagehobby writes: I was able to get to the tinurl site, but then couldn't get the page to open. I tried clicking the link and then copying and pasting it, but still no luck. Maybe those pages aren't operational yet? ____________________________________________________________________________ The site was working fine yesterday, but is down now. As it is the weekend they may be doing maintenance. Stan Mapstone

Hi June, I hope you don't mind me contacting you off list but you may be interested to know that my sister is married to an Ord whose family originated in Aberdeen and Edinburgh, there is little to connect, at the moment, with Northumberland. If you have anything that may connect with the Scottish tree please let me know. Best wishes, Ian White ----- Original Message ----- From: "June Vasey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: [DUR-NBL] Ord Family > Whilst researching some Ord family members that went to South Africa in > 1915 > I came across the following entry. Hope it helps any fellow Ord > researchers. > > > Ord, John WindsorSurname: > Ord > > First Names: > John Windsor > > Age: > 24 > > Birth Place: > Newcastle on Tyne > > Details: > Master of ship Castle Forbes > > Spouse Surname: > Paton > > Spouse First Names: > Margaret > > Spouse Age: > 25 > > Spouse Details: > Of Caithness > > Marriage Date: > 22 Dec 1821 > > Marriage Place: > English Church, special licence granted by the Governor > > Notes: > Special licence granted by the Governor > > > > > > June in Edinburgh > > > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > [email protected] > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jane Vest was bpt at Kelloe on 28th April 1771 dtr of Anthony and Dorothy L(?)eesham. I found a possible mge for the parents at Kelloe on 26 December 1753 - although the entry was very difficult to read. The IGI (parish register extraction) has a bpt in Ryton on 10 Oct 1725 of Anthony Vest s of Michael. A patron submission expands this to give his mother as Ann Bainbridge. I found a mge at Ryton on 29 Nov 1724 of Michael Vest and Ann Bainbridge - so the details seem to hold water. Is anyone else researching this line and has more positive evidence for the link from Jane to grandparents Michael and Ann? John Researching:- Wright - Sunderland late 1700's Henderson - ditto Greenwell - Lanchester late 1700's Waggett/Wagott etc - St John Lee early 1700's Skipsey - ditto Westmorland - Durham late 1600's Elliott - Long Benton & Medomsley - late 1700's Etherington - Barnard Castle late 1700's Jobling - ditto Arkle - Beadnell mid 1700's Todd - Horton early 1800's Hogg - Northumberland & Scotland

Heather Thank you for that information, I'll look into it. Funny you should mention MARR. The only marriage I could find which resembled a Waring/Maw partnership was George Marr married Ellen Wareing in 1840 in Preston, Lancs. I am undecided as to whether this is them and the name has been recorded incorrectly. Unfortunately, their ages aren't shown, instead they are list as 'Full age'. Incidentally, George is shown as being a widower on the certificate. 1841 census shows a George and Ellen Marr living in Stockton with daughter Elizabeth aged 9 mnths. Again, I don't know if they are the same couple as above and have had the names recoded incorrectly. There is a George Maw (transcribed as 'Main') aged 30 living in Darlington on 1841 census but is shown as living with a Sarah aged 40. I guess it was his wife but can't tell because 1841 census doesn't list the status of persons - as in whether wife, sister, son etc. Ah well, the search carries on. Thanks again. Ian Heather Punshon wrote: > There is a George Gill MAW baptised in Auckland St Andrew on 6 Mar > 1822 son of George MAW and Barbara Jackson > This may be a late baptism. > > I wouldn't rule out other spellings such as MORE or MARR which would > be pronounced the same in that area. > Listers may have other suggestions about accent. > There is a George Moore b 7 Jan 1811 Pittingdon, bpt 3 Feb 1811 > parents Edward Moore and Jane Beecroft. > and lots of other MOOREs in the area. > > Did you get the marriage to Ellen Waring? this would give his father's > name. > > Hope these ideas help. >

Whilst researching some Ord family members that went to South Africa in 1915 I came across the following entry. Hope it helps any fellow Ord researchers. Ord, John WindsorSurname: Ord First Names: John Windsor Age: 24 Birth Place: Newcastle on Tyne Details: Master of ship Castle Forbes Spouse Surname: Paton Spouse First Names: Margaret Spouse Age: 25 Spouse Details: Of Caithness Marriage Date: 22 Dec 1821 Marriage Place: English Church, special licence granted by the Governor Notes: Special licence granted by the Governor June in Edinburgh

Hi Folks, My way of adding return postage has been to add stamps of the country you are writing to. These can be obtained from a stamp shop or from someone who purchases stamps from that country. I had an account with the British Philatelic Bureau tll a few years ago. I made it known amongst local genealogists that I was holding a few stamps of the correct amount for an email letter which they could buy from me at cost. Worked well. If any are wanted now I could obtain from friends there. Regards, Shirley Thomson New Plymouth New Zealand Researching: SIMPSON, WRIGHT, CLARKE (Bedale, Yks), RAW, BEAN (Bradford & Swaledale, Yks), FLOWER, HARRISON, LAMBERT, SCORER (Co Durham), ASHDOWN, ARNSBY, CAMP (London & Middlesex), TREWEEK, CHAPMAN, PRYNN, LOBB (Cornwall), FERGUSS0N, CLARK, BLACKLEY, RODDAN (Dumfriesshire), THOMSON, SCOTT (Angus) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Hall" <[email protected]> To: "'Carol Bradford'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 5:04 AM Subject: [DUR-NBL] International stamp coupons > Last year I bought two DNA kits from Ancestry, they each came with two > international reply coupons to return the kits. (two dollars per coupon) > > My local post office refused to accept the coupons and asked me to return > later in the day by which time they would have been able to make some > checks > on them. When I returned I was told they couldn't accept them and I had to > pay for the stamps. > > This was my experience of international stamp coupons and I can quite well > imagine someone trying to reply to you having the same problem and saying > "it's alright I'll not bother". > > I later tried to exchange the coupons for stamps at the main post office > only to be told I could only use them to post an item the USA - I still > have > them. > > Margaret Hall > Wallsend. > > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Writing to possible relatives > > I noted that the original poster is in the US. I've had excellent luck > with letters, but the names were unusual. Some people do back off, > especially if elderly, from understandable fear of giving out too much > information or worse. > IRC coupons are sold at the post office in the US, but they are only > good for certain countries and the last time I checked, the UK was not > one of them. There are also international business reply envelopes > available, but I don't know about them and couldn't find out more on > the USPS website. > Best regards, > Carol B in NY > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > On Mar 27, 2009, at 11:14 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > The other answers mentioned SAEs (stamped addressed envelopes) but >> you can't >> do that from overseas. You need to send two international reply >> coupons with >> each envelope. You can buy these at the post office but it makes it >> quite >> expensive and so much more difficult to do a large scale enquiry >> this way. >> >> Best wishes, Irene >> > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > [email protected] > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2027 - Release Date: 03/27/09 18:51:00

Hello all, International Reply Paid Coupons. I was surprised to hear that they are not accepted in the UK. I have bought them here in the UK on many occasions, and sent them to people in Sri Lanka and Singapore, to help with my enquiries. I've had some positive replies, and several pleas for money including photos of dishevelled children etc. Agh, the joys of carrying out family history research! Julian Lovegrove 21 Seafield Road Broadstairs Kent CT10 2DD England _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/

I was going to suggest that you try to find some source of stamps from the country that you are writing to - stamp dealers might be able to supply them. Or a friend in the country might be willing to buy you some stamps if you send them money. I also find the international reply coupon to be of no use whatsoever. When I have written to places such as registrar's offices who asked for them, I simply added the postage costs to the cheque I was sending, and that seemed to work. Heather

I was going to say - don't assume your own country's stamps work all over the world Adrian and others! American stamps are useless in countries other than the US. International Reply paid coupons are available at post offices, but I saw a response saying they are not accepted in the UK. Here in Melbourne Australia I can go to the Genealogy library near me and buy UK postage stamps. (They must get them in bulk from a person in England.) Or at least we could - it is years ago that I tried it. I would always give my full address and all methods of contacting me - email, phone, mobile - you never know. Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2009 12:41 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Writing to possible relatives In a message dated 27/03/2009 12:44:47 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I am writing for direction as to the best type of letter to write to possible relatives (same surname, & county) that I have never met, but who I have located via the Ancestry UK phone directories , The results depressed me. I sent out 17 letters with reply paid envelopes; I got back two from the Post Office saying the person had moved, got one saying they weren't related and another also saying that but in fact it turned out they were. That left 13 who presumably chucked them away after steaming off the stamp! ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== To Post a message to this list send it to, [email protected] ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== List Web Page http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 3967 (20090326) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Thanks again Jan your a life saver .There are two that I have not done and I would not of thought off, so once again many thanks and I will let you know, Lesley

Hi Lesley, I'll be interested to know if it is the right marriage of John William and Mary Jane Jackson. You'll have to let us all know when the certificate comes. I've had a search on Freebmd for John William's birth entry, but as you say, you've searched and sent for certificates that are not him. You've probably seen these ones. Births Dec 1864 Murphy John William S Shields 10a584 Births Jun 1865 Murphy John Sunderland 10a502 Births Dec 1865 Murphy John William Hartlepool 10a122 Births Dec 1865 Murphy William Sunderland 10a448 Don't let the one with just William put you off, because as I said before, they often changed their names around, or just used one of them. One of my ancestors was baptised Francis, but suddenly became George Francis later on, and signing his name as George, missing off the Francis altogether. Good luck with your searches. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: lesley To: Durham Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:44 PM Subject: [DUR-NBL] John William Murphy To Jan Thank you I have already sent off for the Certificate so just to wait , I have yet to find his Birth , on his second marriage to Mary Ann Telford in 1909 , his age was 44 , that would make him born about 1865 , but three Certificates and many searches i have yet to find him , His Father James Murphy was a Merchant Seaman The same as him and the closes I have Found is a James Murphy born 1828 from Monkwearmouth Shore who had a son John 1857 Sunderland but no John William Murphy with father James who was a Merchant Seaman. Over a Year Later I,am Still looking , Some things take time Thanks to the 1911 Census whitch gave me a lot , john was missing there too His death in 1917 Poplar London was 52 unless I have missed something , Thanks agin Lesley ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ====