Karen, I have more information on this line of the family, i noticed my brother David has transferred to a readily transferable file and you might want to get it from him, if you want the long text version, more a family history with a mix of history speculation and intuition I would be glad to work with you, but it close to one pages, if your system is up to it I can transfer it all to you at once or in sections. Keep in touch, I will be out of town next week but will be back Thursday. Cheers Ken