1. Does anyone have a female Dunsmore with the first name Douglas? 2. I did some tracking of my Scottish Dunsmores and found that they were probably from Inverkip in Renfrewshire, near Greenock - Robert Dunsmore m. Elizabeth Kerr abt 1750. Also Barony, near Glasgow, John Dunsmore m. Mary Paterson abt 1775. 3. While I was doing the searching I found the following miscellaneous Scottish Dunsmores: These ones were all in Barony Euphemia 1780 d. of Elizabeth BARR and William Janet 1789 d. of Marrion DUNand Peter William 1776 s. of Grizel DUNN and Robert Isobel 1778 d. of Girzel Dunn and Robert Murray 1780 s. of Grizel Dunn and Robert Elizabeth 1782 d. of Grizel Dunn and Robert Mary 1789 d. of Mary GRAY and James Margaret 1790 d. of Margaret McLEMONT and Andrew James 1783 s. of Elizabeth MILLER and William John 1785 s. of Elizabeth Miller and William Thomson Dunsmore 1788 s. of Elizabeth Miller and William Dunsmore or Thomson David 1790 s. of Elizabeth Miller and William David 1777 s. of Euphan MILLN and John John 1787 s. of Bethia MUIRand John Martin 1789 s. of Elizabeth Muir and John Ann 1774 d. of Euphan Muir and John Isobel 1778 d. of Mary NAESMITH and Andrew Andrew 1783 s. of Mary Naesmith and Andrew John 1782 s. of Margaret PATERSON and John Robert 1787 d. of Jean ROBERTSON and Robert Elizabeth 1789 d. of Jean Robertson and Robert James 1787 s. of Janet SIMSON and John Mary 1790 d. of Janet Simson and John Robert 1784 s. of Janet Simpson and John Also Buchanan 1777 s. of Mary Paterson and John (mine but I'll gladly share!) Mary 1785 d. of Mary Paterson and John and Douglas Mary b. 1789 in Glasgow Please email me if you'd like the reference number for ordering the extract of these Christenings (from the Scottish records Office - 10 pounds- about $20?) or if you want the exact date of the Christening. Pam from British Columbia, Canada -- Pam Thomson http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ Town Square Network

Hi Rita, Hopefully someone more familiar with this place can help, but I did a search at USGS http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html and found Dunsmore Mountain in Buncombe Co. I tried www.expediamaps.com , with no luck. Good luck, Gail also in TX -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 6:25 AM Subject: [DUNSMOOR-L] Densmore Mountain

Hi, I have a North Carolina Atlas and Gazetteer which are Topo maps of the entire state.Dunsmore Mtn is southwest of Asheville, N.C. I have not looked at road map, but on this it shows Highway 151 north of the Blue Ridge Parkway. There also is a Dunsmore town? on map. It is in lower southwest of Buncombe Co. I hope this will help. I am bad with directions. Pat Floyd Gainesville, Ga.

Hi Gail, I would guess that the Dunsmore Mountain would be the one I am looking for, the spelling is a possibility. I'm sure you know ,as I have found out Densmore can be spelled many different ways. And being in Buncombe Co. it has to be the same. I just didn't know the correct spelling. Thanks for the look-up address. I will look there also. Are you researching Densmore/ Dinsmore/ Dunsmore/ Dunsmoor also? If so, what line are you looking for.. I believe, I have visited with you before. Where in Texas are you? Thanks, Rita Densmore Garrison 806 N. Dallas St Ennis, Texas 75119 972 875-1001

Good morning, from Texas Could someone please tell me how to get to Densmore Mountain, in Buncombe County, NC. I will be driving, and need directions. Thanks is advance for your help. Rita Densmore Garrison

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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7D09FC77BC2C9EE7DA6186EE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Jan and other Dunsmoor seekers, I'm forwarding this to you. Irish also seem to be the same pattern. Some of my family didn't follow this. Pam -- Pam Thomson http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ Town Square Network --------------7D09FC77BC2C9EE7DA6186EE Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 19:42:41 -0800 From: Pam Thomson <[email protected]> Organization: N. W. S. S. / Town Square Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Anderson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Naming Patterns References: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sure, Steve, Here they are: English naming patterns used from about 1700-1875. The first son was named after the father's father. The second son was named after the mother's father. The third son was named after the father. The fourth son was named after the father's eldest brother. The first daughter was named after the mother's mother. The second daughter was named after the father's mother. The third daughter was named after the mother. The fourth daughter was named after the mother's eldest sister. Except where names would be duplicated, this pattern was frequently used. Also, if a child died, they might reuse the name. I also received this today and another person is looking up an alternate system for me as my Orkney Island people haven't followed this pattern completely. Scottish naming tradition: 1st son---------father's father 2nd son---------mother's father 3rd son---------father 4th son---------father's oldest brother 5th son---------father's 2nd oldest brother or mother's oldest brother 1st dau---------mother's mother 2nd dau---------father's mother 3rd dau---------mother 4th dau---------mother's oldest sister 5th dau---------mother's second oldest sister or father's oldest sister I also found some good information on > http://members.aol.com/Tuffsearch/nametraditions.html > Hope this helps,Pam Steve Anderson wrote: > Pam, > Would you mind passing along the contents of English naming patterns? > I would be interested, and it is relevant. > Regards, Steve Anderson > > ---------- > From: Pam Thomson <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Naming Patterns > Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 11:19 AM > > I have a book which outlines English naming patterns in the 17 and > 1800s. Can > anyone tell me what the usual order for naming children in Scotland > was at that > time? e.g. was the first son usually named after the father? > -- > Pam Thomson > http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ > Town Square Network > > ______________________________ -- Pam Thomson http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ Town Square Network --------------7D09FC77BC2C9EE7DA6186EE--

I had heard that the Dunsmoors were from an area north of Dundee, but I'm not certain.

I have a question regarding naming patterns. We have William Mandeville Dunsmore I through IV in the family, but they are not all father-son. Is that unusual? There is a John Dunsmore b. 1782, then his son William Dunsmore b. 1804 (I assume William Mandeville the first), then his son John A. Dunsmore b. 1832, then his son William Mandeville Dunsmore II born 1855, then his son John Morris Dunsmore b. 1886, then his son William Mandeville Dunsmore III b. 1924, then his son William Mandeville Dunsmore IV. Is this unusual? I thought they usually went father to son. Thanks for your help. Jan Venti [email protected] Lake Forest, CA, USA

Does anyone know if there is any connection between the Dunsmore name and Duns Castle in Berwickshire, Scotland, east of Edinburgh? A note on my mom's Dunsmore information says " some ancestors lived at Down's Castle??". I thought it might be Duns Castle. -- Pam Thomson http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ Town Square Network

I have a scanned an original copy of the book "Among the Scotch-Irish ~ with History of Dinsmoor Family." by Leonard Allison Morrison, A. M.. I thought that each of you might enjoy reading a copy of it. It was written in 1891. The file has been zipped with winzip and is in the WordPrefect format. If you will send me your email address, I will forward it to you. I tried to send on RootsWeb, however they will not allow it. I am having a problem with. My Great-Great Frandfather James Jackson Dinsmore, b. April 20, 1815 d. 1896 was fathered by James Dunsmoor (Dunsmore) b. August 15,1760 in County Donegall, N. Ireland and married in 1758 ot an Elizabeth Jackson?. His father was an Adam Dunsmoor -Dinsmore-Dunsmore. This is the same Adam Dinsmore as shown on page 37 of the Morrison book (my page number 33 of 44. If you have any information about this please share. Charles L. Dinsmore [email protected]

Re: Pam Thompson's inquiry I believe that my John Dunsmore's parents are Mary or Margaret Patterson and John Dunsmore --- also. His date of birth is 1782. Would that make us 4th cousins or something along that line?

The URL that you listed brings up an error message - any ideas? David Poole Researching William and John Dunsmoor who emigrated to Massachusetts in 1727 from Ulster.

At 08:45 PM 11/13/98 EST, you wrote: >Also, I have been told that the Dunsmores are a sept of the Murray Clan. Is >this what other researchers have found? The following URL will confirm that the Dunsmores are a sept of the Murray clan. http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/Heritage/FSCNS/Scots_NS/About_Clans/Alpha_Septs/Sep ts_Clans_Alpha.html S. Don Cahoon 9836 Elbow Dr. S. W. CALGARY, AB, CAN. T2V 1M3 email <[email protected]> Tel. (403) 255 8604

I was asked if I thought it was possible that William and son John both married wives with the same name....Janet Baird. Yes, I think it is possible. Information provided to me by family members show William married to Janet Baird 13/5/1826 in Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland and John married to Janet Mann Baird 11/x/1854 in Morris Run, Tioga County, PA. I found the entry for the Scottish marriage in the Scottish Church Records cd at FRC. I need to confirm the Pennsylvania marriage next. Not sure how to go about it. I really enjoy reading all about the other Dunsmores (and variations) out there. I had no idea there were so many! [email protected] Lake Forest, CA, USA

Information handed down through family members states William Dunsmore b. 1804 in Coatbridge, Lanark, Scotland and his son John Dunsmore b. 1832 in New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland came to the US in 1850. I have gone through most of the passenger lists at the National Archives and cannot locate them. Does anyone else have this information? Also, I have been told that the Dunsmores are a sept of the Murray Clan. Is this what other researchers have found? Thank you, [email protected] Lake Forest, CA, USA

11 November 1998 I have been researching the DUNSMORE family and I am interested in meeting others who are researching the family. The following will give an idea of who I have and the locations. 1. John DUNSMORE, c. 1800, Old Monkland m. Rachel WALKER at Old Monkland 2. George DUNSMORE, b 1824, Airdrie m. Agnes GARDNER 1854, Bathgate 3. John Gardner DUNSMORE, b. 1855, Bathgate, W. Lothian m. Elizabeth Jane Mortimer HARPER 1877, Cambuslang 4. Sarah Harper DUNSMORE, b. 1886, Glasgow (my grandmother) m. Andrew Hynd MUNGALL 1910 at Glasgow 4. Thomas DUNSMORE 4. Helen DUNSMORE 4. Jean DUNSMORE, b. 1883 m. Arthur ALVORD 4. Agnes DUNSMORE 4. Margaret BUNTION Betty Mungall Van Landeghem Grand Blanc, Michigan, USA [email protected]

I was just looking at some Scottish records at the Family History Centre and found that my ancestor, Douglas Mary b.1789, had a brother Buchanan c. 1777 and a sister Mary c. 1785 in Barony, Lanark, Scotland. Any descendants out there? Their name seems to have been spelled Dunsmure in these records, although I have Dunsmore. Parents are John D. and Mary (Paterson). -- Pam Thomson http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ Town Square Network

Very possible. I only have gr-gr grandmothers name. Angeline Dunsmore. We "think" fathers name was John. I know they named son "Johnston" There is a Johnston "Dunsmore" in a Mary Haggarty will in PA. Same time William Dunsmore immigration papers were signed. in PA with a Haggarty. All info I have. Kathy At 02:34 PM 11/8/98 EST, you wrote: >Is it possible that John A and William married wives with the same name? > >

Is it possible that John A and William married wives with the same name?