While we're on the subject of Y DNA ,may I also ask all McGonigals and spelling variants,to participate in the Y DNA project at http://www.familytreedna.com/ It's under the MeGonnigil( variant) spelling in the search box. I have already narrowed my McGonigal Y DNA to an R1B1c7 North West Ireland group (Donegal) which matches Niall of the Nine Hostages in 400 AD. Not that I'm claiming direct descendancy from him,but an interesting connection ~~~~~~~~~ Janet ... I'm also hoping that Y DNA will break down some of my brick walls,I know that my gr.greats Hugh McGonigal and Sarah Coyle came to Scotland about 1838 from Ireland,but I don't know where ? Maybe some of the McGonigals scattered all over the world will have info that will help,family Bibles etc.,because the info isn't forthcoming thru the usual channels. Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada.