Just to remind our new Dun. list members that there's lot of good info on the Genuki page: http://www-theory.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~mnd/genuki/counties/dumbarton.html Also, if you haven't placed a query on the Dunbartonshire GenWeb Query page, try it: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/4423/index.html Barbara Lewis, list manager lewisb@vitrex.net