Hi Frank I've noted the names, so will have a look for Mary when I visit Mitchell. I'm visiting for bits here and there to fill gaps, so will not be a problem. Thankfully this visit will not involve trawling through rolls of census'. My gg grandfather also stated he was from Derry in one of the census, although I have my doubts as his family given names all seem to indicate Donegal, and with a name like Gallac(g)her, in Ireland I am probably unlikely to find out, although with Manus and Sophia as part of the traditional family names back in the 1860-1880's I remain hopeful - did I say that :-D. Lucky you to have Hugh's army service, my g grandfather, who was in the army in 1901 and again during WWI died in 1918, a bit of a mystery there that I would love to know more about. How did you get enough information to obtain his record? I have the name of his regiment, service number, date and place of death, next of kin, but as far as I can gather these records require you to go to Kew and just search through boxes of files, so although I have a cousin in London I wouldn't ask him to go unless I could direct him to a straightforward search - assuming he wouldn't mind, I forget everyone isn't as excited as I am about old dusty records. Best Wishes Ava Connelly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of frank mcgonigal Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 2:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland Hi Ava Yes I have Hughs Poor Relief Application,and also his Death Cert.,which stated that he was married,but didn't give his parents names. I paid Des Garrity to check for Hugh and Sarah,but not for Mary,I only learned of her and brother John recently from a ( Believe it or not) Mary McGonigal in Glasgow,she found both Hugh and Sarahs childrens Baptisms ...Mary b.1837,and John b. 1838...in National Archives in Edinburgh. I even have a record of Hughs army service fom Kew,but he took sick after only 18 Mths and wasn't pensioned. The only thing I really found out was that he said he was from Derry in the Poor Appl.,and Londonderry in the army records. I know they're both the same,just depends on your religious persuasion. Thanks for the offer a a look up at the Mitchell,you probably won't find Sarah,but you may find Mary,but please don't spend too much time on this. Thanks Frank .. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "AC" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland > Hi Frank > > Do you have Hugh McGunigal's poor relief application? There isn't always > a > record, for instance the man I mentioned before did return to Scotland, > dying in Merryflats Poorhouse in 1906, but in the hospital part, so no > record of that admission, except for mention on death register. > > Further to him being sent to Ireland "Settlement Ireland", his wife, born > of > Scottish parents, in Glasgow, was given his settlement and also sent to > Ireland about a month later, when she made an application. > > I'm hoping to be visiting the Mitchell in the next few weeks and could > have > a look just in case either Sarah Coyle or Mary McGu(o)nigal applied for > assistance, as I've found happened in my family after the death of the > husband/father. > > At one point while I was searching for Poor Relief info, I found a study > which indicated that many Irish who should have been given aid were > wrongly > sent back to the parish of their birth. The criteria was I believe that a > person who had been employed for a number of years in the parish should be > afforded Poor Relief, but this seemed to have been largely ignored by some > of the "Authorities". Of course can't remember where that was now, but if > I > find it I'll pass it on. > > Best Wishes > Ava Connelly > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of frank > mcgonigal > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland > > > Hi Ava > I've heard about that happening,but this is the first instance that I've > come across that is documented,although there are probably many more. > > My gr.gr.grandfather Hugh McGunigal,born Ireland abt1816,died in the > Glasgow > > Poor House in 1863. > > His wife Sarah Coyle,born abt 1816,seems to have disappeared after that > event,although I've had various people searching for her in Scotland,as > well > > as my own attempts to find her. > > Their son born 1838,and his family,went to USA in 1874,but she wasn't with > him,a daughter Mary born 1837 also disappeared,and efforts to trace her > have > > been unsuccessful. > > Maybe I should be looking to Ireland for them !. > > Thanks > Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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