Hi Frank No, don't mention it Frank, just the push I need to get to Glasgow. As it's only bit's and pieces I'm going for I would probably have waited until I wanted a few more hours worth before going in anyway, so it is a pleasure. I have had a quick look at PRA, but will print to take to Mitchell and study it a bit more. There was mention of Centre Street, my Gallacher family lived at various numbers, 32, 34, 36 and 91 Centre Street from 1861 till at least 1894. Margaret Gallacher was born in 1880, and wasn't married in 1909, when her mother made application for PR and named her children and their status, to date have not found connection to any other Gallacher families in Scotland, so don't know who she may be named for. Now Nevin, I have found out in the last few years that one of my g grandfather's (John Clenaghan)brothers, namely Thomas, descendant's married an Irish chap called Nevins around about 1975. That branch of the Clenaghan's had moved to Dundee c.1928-35. Mary now lives in Ireland. There is also a Catherine Owens somewhere in that line, through marriage, can't find it at the moment but will keep looking, this is in the Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire area. My gr grandfather John Clenaghan, born Old Monkland 1882, parents John Clenaghan and Mary Keegan(s). He married Mary Duffy in 1903 in Port Glasgow, where the family had moved bet. 1895-1901. He was a Gunner in 2nd Siege Battery, RGA and his regiment number was 216243. The mystery surrounding him is in the fact he died in Port Glasgow on 3rd July 1918, of Influenza & Lobar Pneumonia (3 days). Family younger generation say memory is that he had deserted his post to come home following the birth of his youngest daughter Helen in May of 1918 - this memory is from her children, so could be the case, however he is commemorated on the CWGC which I didn't think would be the case if he had deserted. Then after I began doing research, I was in touch with the person who has given me the info. re Catherine Owens (that I need to find for you), who is married to a descendant of my gr grandfather's brother James, and she sent me his marriage reg. showing that he married on the day my gr. grandfather died, so now I wonder if he had got time to come home (during the war ? - well 3rd July 1918) for the wedding. He died during the night, the wedding obviously went ahead a few hours later, but it must have been a sombre occasion. I don't know where he was stationed but if memory serves I believe Barrow could have been mentioned in relation to him, but I'm not sure. Gosh Frank, you must be thrilled to discover you can link as far back as the ancients, :-D I'm just going to have a look at the DNA link you sent, although when I've tried to understand these in the past my eyes have kind of glazed over, so wish me luck. Had a look and a few of my names, O'Neil, Gallac(g)her are there, but whoosh, eyes glazed over again when I look around at the technical data. Hope I've not missed anything, I'll get back to you when I find what I have on my Catherine Owens. Best Wishes Ava Connelly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of frank mcgonigal Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland Thanks very much Ava,I really appreciate this. McGonigal is certainly a Donegal name with roots in Inishowen,not sure about Coyle,but it's a very common name in Ireland. My gr.gr.grandfather James Nevin,born 1827, also came from Derry,his wifes name was Catherine Owens. Their daughter Mary Ann my gr.gran. was born "At Sea" west of the Mull of Kintyre. James parents were ???? Nevin and Margaret Gallacher( could we have a connection there ?:o). Catherine Owens parents were Hugh Owens and Ellen McCracken/McCrocken. As to Hughs army service,it was in his poor law application,I'll send you a copy later.I hired someone to check the records at Kew,it wasn't too expensive,and in your case it would be well worth the cost.I didn't get much more on Hugh because he got sick and left too soon. Send me your grandfathers details and I'll see if I can advise you or find anything. By the way I've had my Y DNA done and it proves coclusively that I'm a McGonigal from the Donegal area from "way back when",even Y DNA related to Nial of the Nine hostages !!!. The web site for Y DNA info on this is.. http://www.familytreedna.com/ Try your names and see if there's a project going. Regards Frank ~~~~~~~~ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1048 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com