Hello Doug If your Alexander was born in 1875 in Scotland, you should be able to order the film of the births for the county for that year to view at your nearest LDS - much cheaper than ordering a certificate from Edinburgh and you may find other related births in the same parish or elsewhere in the county. Being in the more heavily populated part of Scotland, the births for 1875 for the county are probably on two or three films so you would need to check that you get the one with Rutherglen (the films have the parishes in alphabetical order). As births, deaths and marriages for 1855-1875 for Scotland are all available on film you may get the parents' marriage and births of other children on films for other years. The 1875 birth certificate for Alexander should also show the date and place of the parents' marriage. Good luck Lesley Instone Invercargill NZ > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Williams [SMTP:doug@md3.vsnl.net.in] > Sent: Monday, 11 October 1999 03:06 > To: DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: MURRAY > > Dear all > > This is my first message on your site, so hello to all. > > I am specifically looking for one relative. I am tracing my Murray > roots. I found the family on the 1881 Census CDs. At the time of the > census they were living in Birkenhead, Cheshire (now part of > Merseyside). The census shows that one of the children (Alexander C > Murray) was born in "Rutherglen, Cumberland, England" in about 1875. > As those that can guess where I am leading will no doubt appreciate I > had a heck of a job finding the location. Cumberland is in what is now > Cumbria. There was no trace of Rutherglen there. Eventually I realised > that I had found one of the CD transcription errors. The address > should, of course, have read Cumbernauld (Scotland not England). > > I am basically writing to ask if someone can confirm my assumption > about Cumberland/Cumbernauld. > > The Murray family I am tracing started out in Creich (in Sutherland > according to the CD-ROMS) which according to my atlas is actually on > Tayside, not in Sutherland. They then moved to Rutherglen and ended up > in Birkenhead, losing the mother/wife of the family en-route. I have > yet to track down exactly when she passed away. They actually started > their journey before Creich, but that is another trail I have to > follow. > > A long Journey in the late 1800s with six children. > > Grateful for the confirmation requested above. Grateful also for any > idea as to where to look (via the internet) to find Alexander's birth > certificate. > > Regards to all > > > Doug > (in India)