This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThuranX Surnames: Campbell, Simpson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.dnb.general/2721/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Stuck on this: My Great-great Grandmother, Mary Campbell - Old family records and Yonkers, NY Death Cert both give 24 Nov 1844 as birthdate. 1914 Lusitania manifest, as Mary Simpson, shows place of birth as Dunbarton. She came to America in 1864, per census returns, and probably already married to James Simpson. Death certificate gives her father's name as Archibald, but 'cannot be learned' for mother. I've tried the ScotlandsPeople site for more ,but the cost of guessing at all the Archibald Campbells in either the 1851 or 1861 census is prohibitive. Has anyone found anyone who might be a match? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi ThuranX Good luck with your Archibald Campbell... It took me years to sort out my Campbell's in Dunbartonshire but after much work I got them all straight. I hate to be niggling but when you give her birthplace as Dunbarton, was it possibly Dumbarton? This can sometimes indicate the difference between the town and the county names. Also be warned that the birth date of 24 Nov 1844 is 18 months after the Great Disruption in the Church of Scotland when about half the ministers walked out and formed the Free Church of Scotland. Between May 1843 and January 1855 when civil registration started, more than half the births, marriages and deaths in Scotland were not recorded in the Church of Scotland Old Parish Registers be they Catholics, Mormons, Secessionists or Free Church etc. The other groups did keep registers but they were not kept uniformly and they were under no requirement to send them to the National Archives as the Church of Scotland Parishes were. Was there a sibling born before May 1844 or 1955 onwards... that could help you out? Also the 1841/1851/1861 census could be searched for both Mary and Archibald and compare the entry numbers for a match of father and daughter in the same entry or page. This is laborious but sometimes it works. Aefauldlie Robin Hallam Duncan, British Columbia ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:21 PM Subject: [DUNB] Campbell of Dunbarton - brick wall. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: ThuranX > Surnames: Campbell, Simpson > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.dnb.general/2721/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Stuck on this: > My Great-great Grandmother, Mary Campbell - Old family records and > Yonkers, NY Death Cert both give 24 Nov 1844 as birthdate. 1914 Lusitania > manifest, as Mary Simpson, shows place of birth as Dunbarton. She came to > America in 1864, per census returns, and probably already married to James > Simpson. > > Death certificate gives her father's name as Archibald, but 'cannot be > learned' for mother. > > I've tried the ScotlandsPeople site for more ,but the cost of guessing at > all the Archibald Campbells in either the 1851 or 1861 census is > prohibitive. > > Has anyone found anyone who might be a match? > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board.

Hi ThuranX Good luck with your Archibald Campbell... It took me years to sort out my Campbell's in Dunbartonshire but after much work I got them all straight. I hate to be niggling but when you give her birthplace as Dunbarton, was it possibly Dumbarton? This can sometimes indicate the difference between the town and the county names. Also be warned that the birth date of 24 Nov 1844 is 18 months after the Great Disruption in the Church of Scotland when about half the ministers walked out and formed the Free Church of Scotland. Between May 1843 and January 1855 when civil registration started, more than half the births, marriages and deaths in Scotland were not recorded in the Church of Scotland Old Parish Registers be they Catholics, Mormons, Secessionists or Free Church etc. The other groups did keep registers but they were not kept uniformly and they were under no requirement to send them to the National Archives as the Church of Scotland Parishes were. Was there a sibling born before May 1844 or 1955 onwards... that could help you out? Also the 1841/1851/1861 census could be searched for both Mary and Archibald and compare the entry numbers for a match of father and daughter in the same entry or page. This is laborious but sometimes it works. Aefauldlie Robin Hallam Duncan, British Columbia ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:21 PM Subject: [DUNB] Campbell of Dunbarton - brick wall. > Stuck on this: > My Great-great Grandmother, Mary Campbell - Old family records and > Yonkers, NY Death Cert both give 24 Nov 1844 as birthdate. 1914 Lusitania > manifest, as Mary Simpson, shows place of birth as Dunbarton. She came to > America in 1864, per census returns, and probably already married to James > Simpson. > > Death certificate gives her father's name as Archibald, but 'cannot be > learned' for mother. > > I've tried the ScotlandsPeople site for more ,but the cost of guessing at > all the Archibald Campbells in either the 1851 or 1861 census is > prohibitive. > > Has anyone found anyone who might be a match?

Hi, If you go to www.familysearch.org International Genealogical Index you will see Patron Submissions for Mary Campbell B. 1844 Haldine Mill, Bonhill, Dunbarton. These are not extracted but are submitted by members of the Morman Church. Here is the info. Father - Archibald Campbell Mother - Agnes (Ann) Crawford Archibald Campbell B. 7 May 1857 Strathblane, Dunbarton Mary Campbell B. 1844 Haldine Mill, Bonhill, Dunbarton Elizabeth Campbell B. 1846 Haldine Mill, Bonhill Margaret Campbell B. 1848 Haldine Mill, Bonhill Thomas Campbell B. 31 July 1859 Bonhill (extracted) Hope this helps, Elinor (Grandparents married at Mill of Haldane, Bonhill)