Hi Jo-Anne! Thanks to your help and through the FHC I ordered the 1861 Census for Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire to check to see if Mary KYLE Reid and Helen KYLE were sisters as suggested by the 1881 Census info you sent me. The are!!!! ...and I got the whole family and Mary and Helens ages agree in both records. This gives me my Great-great-grandparents and their children!!! It is taken from page 11 of Enumeration District 14 of Kirkintilloch, Dumbarton: JOHN KYLE head 32 Agricultural Laborer bn Ireland MARY KYLE wife 30 " " " bn Ireland MARY KYLE daur. 10 scholar bn Kirkintilloch JOHN KYLE son 8 scholar bn Kirkintilloch JAMES KYLE son 6 bn " HELEN KYLE daur. 4 bn " PATRICK KYLE son 3 bn " census taken at 47 Sidegate, Kirkintilloch So here is another generation for both of us! Sincerely, Peter