Hi fellow Dunbartonshire researchers, We've been asked to post these reminders from time to time. Thank you for your attention: * Do not post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. For information on virus hoaxes and urban legends see http://www.kumite.com/myths/ among others. * Please do not send file attachments (messages with files appended) to the list. If you have a file you would like to share with the members, announce what you have to offer, then send the file only to those who request it, via private email. There are many SAMPLE branches and not everyone will want the data on your line. Barbara Lewis, listowner lewisb@vitrex.net Dunbartonshire County, Scotland GenWeb Host

I'm looking for descentants of Andrew Stirling and Janet Knox. Children were John Stirling Married to Martha Reid July 2, 1843 also to Elizabeth Allen. James Stirling born Dec 18, 1803. Isabel Stirling b. March 10, 1806; James Stirling b. April 16, 1808; William Stirling b. Aug 14, 1813; Janet Stirling b. Oct 6, 1815; Mary Stirling b. Dec 3, 1817 and Andrew Stirling b.Aug 11, 1820 and possibly married to Anne Flemming. Janet Knox parents were Janet Samson and John Knox. Janet was b. June 11,1780, Jean Knox b. Dec 28, 1788, Alexander b. 1786; David born sep 7, 1783; Don't know if there are other children. Also looking for descendants of John Stirling and Janet Wilson: They were married in Mauchline Ayrshire then lived in Waterside area and Kirkintilloch. Andrew born Aug 13, 1780, Jean b. December 20, 1778; William b. Oct 12, 1783, John Stirling b. Aug 27, 1783 Hugh b. June 17, 1792 in Galston, Ayr; Margaret b. July 15,Kirkintilloch; Jaames Stirling b. Jan 12, 1798; John born May 5, 1800: Mary b Aug 5, 1787 Mauchline, Ayr and Agnes born Dec 27, 1789 Mauchline, Ayr. Would love to hear from Anybody who can shed some light on my Stirling, Knox Sampson, mmstirling@prodigy.net

My new, wonderful daughter-in-law is a Dunbar. I would like to surprise her with a history of the family and the name. Can anyone point me to some resources? Marie Coady

Hello to all Dunbartonshire list members.....I am delighted to be the new listowner of this list, and I would like to thank Chester Cowan for getting this mailing list started and for his hard work and dedication to this project. Chester has asked me to send you all his best wishes for a prosperous New Year. I have been the host for the Dunbartonshire GenWeb site for almost 9 months and have enjoyed helping many of you with your Dunbartonshire Queries. Some of you have questioned the length of the Mailing list name...it may be a little long, but it's not going to stop any of us from accomplishing what we need to on this Mailing List. It is so NEAT that we have this kind of technology to help us with our research. I'm excited about serving you in this capacity, and please let me know if there is anything I can do to serve you better. I am new at this list business and I will make mistakes. Please be patient with me. Forgive me for the long message, but I also want to say that my mother was born in Dunbartonshire (Clydebank) and I still have cousins living there. I have visited the area twice and it is a GREAT part of Scotland, and I'm proud of my Dunbartonshire heritage! Barbara Lewis lewisb@vitrex.net Dunbartonshire County, Scotland GenWeb Host http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/4423/index.html Wigtownshire County, Scotland GenWeb Host http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/4423/wigtown.html Listowner: Kent, Eng; Dunbartonshire, Scotland

Hello fellow Dunbarton genealogists. Is there anyone else out there researching the Smollett family of Bonhill. Best wishes for 1999 Len

Looking for all Stirling's from the Waterside, Kirkintilloch, Dunbarton area. Would also like to hear from the Knox families from the area. mmstirling

Following a lead from the Scots Origins OPR, I am looking for connections to the PATERSON and BUCHANAN families circa 1800 in New or East Kilpatrick Parish. -- Pam Thomson http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/ Town Square Network

I'm interested in the above family. Does anyone have any connections? James Weir m Margaret Carse 1776 Their family John b 1778. m Bethia Harvey. d 1843. Their family James b 1801, Robert b 1803, William b 1805, William b 1806, John b 1808, Agnes b 1810, Margaret b 1813, Gilbert and Elizabeth. James m Isobella Reid. Their family Christina b 1824 Robert William b 1819. m Jean McLean 1810. d 1859 Their family James, John, Mary and Margaret Elizabeth m James Douglas Jean b 1778. m William Weir (unrelated I'm told) Their family William, James, Jean, Margaret, Elizabeth and Agnes Janet m Walter Watson. The family originally lived in Easterton and Westerton of Mugdock. Some of the descendants emigrated to the USA. My Gran had an old family tree which said they "all became quite famous"! I'd be grateful for any info or to find some relatives! Jane

Hi Everyone, I'm researching the surname ANDERSON. My gg grandfather William ANDERSON states on his marriage certificate that his parents were William ANDERSON and Catherine MC ALLUM. And that he was born in Dumbarton in 1840. I have checked the IGI to see if I could find a likely entry and the only entry that I could find is below. William ANDERSON born 18th Mar 1840 to parents William ANDERSON and Catherine KERR at Bonhill in Dunbartonshire. I suppose the only way to confirm that this is my William's entry would be to see if I can find a McAllum/Kerr marriage in the IGI. But as yet I have not had a chance to look. But is anyone is researching the surname ANDERSON in Bonhill or Dumbarton, could they please email me. Best Wishes & Merry Xmas Kim Pasquill Victoria - Australia football@net2000.com.au

Hi Everyone! I was wondering if anyone might be able to tie into this line. I would love to find a cousin or two! James BAIRD (b.c.1835) was supposedly a Capt in the British Army serving in India. He married Mary Jane DAVIDSON sometime before 1861. Their children were: 1.Sarah b:25 Sept 1861 Cumbernauld, Dunbarton. She married Joseph STEVENSON in Partick, Glasgow in 1880. 2.Elisabeth b: 2 Mar 1864 Cumbernauld, Dunbarton 3.Mary Jane b: 15 Apr 1866 Govan, Glasgow 4.James b:9 May 1870 Govan, Glasgow Sincerely, Susan De Haas Binghamton, NY USA Dsjk2716@aol.com

G'day Karen, >I must have missed something - where did Dunbartonshire Genweb go? Are you >saying it has been cancelled. I sure hope it wasn't, I just joined. As you can see it is still appears to be here - thank you Chester. A Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year to you all. HURU, Mike

MMStirling wrote: >Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 15:25:42 -0500 > >I really miss the Dunbartonsire list. I don't understand why people have >to complain about every little thing. I felt it was great and if they >didn't like they could unsubscribe. wish it could come back. thanks for >the few you had. I hope the complainers are happy now. Just wanted to let >you know you did a great service and I enjoyed it. > > mmstirling > I must have missed something - where did Dunbartonshire Genweb go? Are you saying it has been cancelled. I sure hope it wasn't, I just joined. Karen karen@trilobyte.net Tooele, Utah, USA http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/2456/

I really miss the Dunbartonsire list. I don't understand why people have to complain about every little thing. I felt it was great and if they didn't like they could unsubscribe. wish it could come back. thanks for the few you had. I hope the complainers are happy now. Just wanted to let you know you did a great service and I enjoyed it. mmstirling

any connections to these: Thomas McNeish born 1848, son of Thomas McNeish, born 1815, married to Jean Duncan, son of Thomas Nish, born 1790, married to Marion Cowan Ronni Are you related to me? Find out by shaking my family tree at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/8162/ researching Welsh, McNeish, McGrath, Burnett and Croft while stationed in Illinois. <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< Jesus is the reason for the season. Merry Christmas! <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><

Dear List Members, Based on the criticism of my showing the list name in the subject line I am complying with the complaints and removing it. I shall no longer be welcoming the new members since I will have not ideas what list you will be subscribing to or unsubscribing from! If you require assistance I suggest you contact me at my address! Respectfully, Chester H. Cowen... chester@montego.com Researching COLQUHOUN in Scotland LITCHFIELD-L-request@rootsweb.com BUTESHIREGENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com COWEN-L-request@rootsweb.com [ for the surname COWING & COWAN ]

I am interested in finding someone that either owns or has access to a publicatiion that was printed by the Galsgow and West of Scotland Genealogical Society. I am looking for "Glasgow Monumental Inscriptions". I am willing to cover all expenses to have this publication photo copied and sent. Thank you Debbie

Hello to all list members and others who may view this message, I want to thank those responsible for creation of this list. Dunbartonshire seems to be the key to my surnames research dating back prior to about 1700. From research printed by CARRUTH family researchers of the past, I've found my immigrating ancestor's father and believe I've found back to his great great grandfather. Adam CARRUTH is my sixth great grandfather and he immigrated to America from Ireland in abt. 1729 original settling in Lancaster County, Pa. Four of his siblings immigrated to America also with at least his brother Walter coming at the same time. His brother Alexander CARRUTH, and sisters Elizabeth CARRUTH McCORMICK and Mary CARRUTH HUGGIN (or HUGGINS) also immigrated from Antrim County, Ireland shortly after there mother Margaret LAW CARRUTH died in 1729. Two brothers stayed behind and took possession the family farmland. They were James and John CARRUTH. Most of the information on the Irish information comes from abstracts of the will of Adam's father. Abstracts of James CARRUTH's will are on record in the Public Records Office in Belfast. The original will was lost in a fire in the Dublin Records Office. Adam's father, James CARRUTH and family lived in Ballymartin Parish, about six miles north of Belfast. James died in 1728 and when Adam's mother died, Adam moved on and finally settled in North Carolina along with Walter, Alexander, and Mary's families. Elizabeth's family stayed on in Pa. and gained fame in the invention of agricultural implements. In searching for James CARRUTH's birth place and time, wife's name, mother and father, etc., I have discovered a good bit, but would like to know more and be able to verify as much as possible. In relation to Dunbartonshire, I've found James CARRUTH, born Dumbarton, 18 June 1679, baptized 22 June 1679. There are no other records found for James in Dumbarton and I believe it is likely he is the James CARRUTH of Ballypallidy, in Ballymartin Parish, barony of Belfast, County Antrim, for who the abstract's of his will are noted above. James father was Robert who died between 1685 and 1687 (the birth and death dates of his sixth son). Robert had three sons (William, Robert, and John) by his first wife Janet MERCHANT or MARCHANT and three sons (James, David, and Thomas) by his second wife Janet or Jean BUCHANAN. Robert's father was John. John's occupation was a cooper (defined as a barrel maker in the dictionary) and he was entered as burgess of the Burgh of Dumbarton, 06 Mar. 1635. There are regiment and property records for John also. The property record indicates he owned land on the west side of the town of Dumbarton, in the Parish of Cardross, in 1657. John's parents were William and Janet CARRUTH. Other records are found for them using the surnames CORYUITH, CORRUITH, and CARRUTHERS. William's birth and death dates have been estimated at 1575-1635. He died in Dumbarton and was a burgess. His son John assumed the rights of a burgess upon William's death. The first record for him appears to be for 09 July 1627 as one of the "ballies" (old title for officer) of the burgh. The burgh records did not start until 1627. It is believed that William and Janet had sons that moved to Ireland and may be the CARRUTH's listed on the 1631 muster rolls in for the Belfast and Donegal groups. William may have been the William in Carruth, brother of John in Risk, that was mentioned in John's estate settlement in 1618. I would very much appreciate information from anyone about this family group. Thanks for taking the time to read this mail and for any help you may give me. Best wishes to all, Harvey Carrouth <Harvey33@aol.com> <A HREF="http://carruthfam.email.listbot.com/"> http://carruthfam.email.listbot.com/</A> <A HREF="http://www.bnpages.com/hobbies/carrouth/index.html"> http://www.bnpages.com/hobbies/carrouth/index.html</A>

G'day Chester, >Dear List Members, > I am at present, with reference to the comment from Len, >attempting to shorten the list name or I could eliminate it entirely >but in doing so I have no idea whether your message is sent to this >list or some other. If the rootsweb staff are able to abbreviate the Not quite sure why the "[DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-L]" has to appear at all. I also subscribe to CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com and we get "normal" looking Subject Headers. When we (I) post to the list I send To: DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Surely THAT address tells Rootsweb where the message belongs. I do NOT put the "[DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-L]" in MY subject line but I noticed that appears in the message that appears in the "list" so it is something that "you" (the system) seems to ADD. You may like to ask the list owner of CFT-WIN, George W. Durman, sgtgeorg@concentric.net what he does to prevent the addition. For George: I hope you do not mind me copying this to you. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year. HURU, Mike

Dear List Members, I am at present, with reference to the comment from Len, attempting to shorten the list name or I could eliminate it entirely but in doing so I have no idea whether your message is sent to this list or some other. If the rootsweb staff are able to abbreviate the name then I would be in agreement and if any of you know of an acceptable abbreviation then I would submit it to the person who would make the adjustment. Respectfully, chester@montego.com -----Original Message-----Len wrote: From: leonard.davies@virgin.net <leonard.davies@virgin.net> To: Chester <Chester> Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 12:10 PM Subject: [DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-L] Re: Subject Descriptors Is it possible to have more meaningful Subject Descriptors as all the abbreviated subjects read the same, ie, DUMBARTONSHIRE-GEN When trying to read lots of mail it would help if these prefix's were omitted, to allow the real subject to be seen. Thanks Len ==== DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB Mailing List ==== Welcome to your Dunbartonshire-GenWeb mailing list for people who are researching their descendants. Please feel free to post whatever information you have at hand for others to view and perhaps you will contact a distant relative who may be researching your line too.

Looking for the family of John MCKAY and first wife, Janet Caldwell. They had seven children born between 1865 and 1882. When Janet died John McKay married Elizabeth SMITH in 1884. An additional 8 children were born between 1885 and 1906 probably at 58a Napierston Terrace. John McKay died in December 1916 at 161 Main Street, Jamestown.