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After a major crash of my system - the old adage BACKUP rings oh so true... Meanwhile... is there any HOOD/FERGUSON kin out there? My gprnts James HOOD m Emily FERGUSON 1905 in Govan their parents were James HOOD m Martha HANNA Belfast 1871 Samuel FERGUSON m Ann Eliza EWART Antrim 1869. ALL James and Emily's children remained around Dunbartonshire/Renfrewshire area. If anyone sees anything familiar I would be delighted to hear from you regards milly banks - Perth Au (ex Clydebank) millyb@one.net.au researching BANKS/MAUDSLEY/(SLATER)NIXON/WILKES - Eng HOOD/FERGUSON/HANNA/EWART -Sct/Ire MILLS/KIRK - Ire

I agree wholeheartedly with Barabara's email. If anyone out there uses the system and thinks $12 (converted to ANY currency) is too much for all the FREE information and help on offer - I urge them to stop and think of an internet connection without this wonderful facility.. IF it does stretch the budget too far - how about a 'share' with friends - every little helps. I have NO connection with Rootsweb - other than I would be lost without my digests - and I have been lucky to find kin through their pages. Just a thought to ponder regards milly - Perth AU (aye a Bankie...) millyb@one.net.au researching BANKS/MAUDSLEY/(SLATER)NIXON/WILKES - Eng HOOD/FERGUSON/HANNA/EWART -Sct/Ire MILLS/KIRK - Ire

Hello All I have a book that lists the genealogies of Red River (Manitoba, Canada) households. The genealogy tables depict the full name, race, faith, birthplace and dates of those who were living in the Red River area during the period 1818-1870 as well as information on their spouses if applicable. Many of these entries are on English and Scottish settlers who came over with the Hudson's Bay Company expeditions. One drawback is that the birthplace entries are only the country of birth and do not list towns or even counties. However, if you have information that your ancestors may have emigrated to Canada while in service with the Hudson's Bay Company during that time frame, I would be happy to do the lookups for you. I would like to point out that I am sending this email to all 17 county mailing lists that I subscribe to so my apologies to those who receive multiple copies of this posting. No other way to ensure everyone gets to see it. Also, I should point out that there are some glaring anomalies in these entries, at least this is what I have encountered in my own personal search, so please take the information as a guide only and not as gospel. Depending on the amount of requests, responses may take a few days or so, so please be patient. I'll do my best to accommodate everyone as fast as possible. To keep unnecessary message traffic off the main mailing lists, I would appreciate requests direct to me. Regards George Sykes, Winnipeg, Canada

Hi listers....another help from the LDS site.....go to: http://www.familysearch.org/sg/ As you scroll down, you will see that there are resource guide available for the US states as well as other countries. There is not a resource guide for Scotland, but there are other helpful resources there to help you....give it a try.... Barbara Lewis lewisb@vitrex.net Dunbartonshire County, Scotland GenWeb Host http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/4423/index.html

Hi listers..most of us have tried the new LDS site, but did you know you can get into the LIBRARY CATELOG to find out what is available for Dunbartonshire (or anywhere)...it's a little tricky, so here are the directions: http://www.familysearch.org/ Click on :Custom Search Scroll down to Family History Library Catelog Click on "Place Search" over at the right Type "Scotland" in the top box...ignore the bottom one In the next screen scroll down to the bottom "Scotland" Click on "View related Places" Click on Dunbarton (note different spelling) BOOKMARK THIS PLACE so you don't have to go thru this again.... Once you click on the source you want....then Click on "View Film Notes" and it will show you the number of the film that can be ordered thru LDS centers. Good luck Barbara Lewis lewisb@vitrex.net Dunbartonshire County, Scotland GenWeb Host http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/4423/index.html

Dear Listers...as you all know, Rootsweb is what supports all these lists........you may want to read the following: Hello, In the exceprt below, Rootsweb is responding to questions about commercial partnerships, while retaining non-profit status. I think it is very important that more users contribute. I urge everyone to read this excerpt and contribute what they can. If 93 per cent of the people who use the resources are not contributors, we are depending on a small group of people to maintain the genealogical community spirit and that is pretty unrealistic. In fact, if you save one trip to an archive, I suspect that that is worth a contribution. If you have found resources through a rootsweb mail list that may also be well worth a contribution. And then there are all those great resources for your next puzzle and magical mystery tour ... The people who have created rootsweb are pretty phenomenal in their commitment and excel in skills that make rootsweb one of the best managed sites on the internet. While rootsweb is very near the top of the high traffic sites, it is one of the most reliable. Think about what you can do and it will not only be greatly appreciated, but give a resounding cheer for the vision and perserverance of the rootsweb staff. Thanks for any help you can offer, Sharon "When we launched RootsWeb, we assumed that our users would prefer to support us as much as they were able, in exchange for a site open to all, without banners plastered all over everything and without having resources locked up (as is done at other genealogy sites), available only for fees on the order of $60 per year. Instead, people can support RootsWeb for as little as $12 per year. We thus hoped that a reasonable fraction of our users, perhaps half of them, would support us in some way. And because we expected support from the community, we made promises to projects like USGenWeb that we would freely host them for the good of the Internet genealogy community. We have no intention of reneging on those early promises, but it has been difficult, because the community support we anticipated has not been there. Although people use the site like crazy, fewer than 7% of our users have chipped in to keep things going. The other 93%? Perhaps they're busy, or they're broke, or they won't pay unless they have to, or they don't think RootsWeb is useful. Who knows? But it means that RootsWeb has run at a cash flow loss. In simple terms, Karen Isaacson and Brian Leverich have donated not only their time as system administrators but a substantial part of their personal resources to provide the genealogical community with RootsWeb. The rest of RootsWeb's staff have also made substantial contributions. Because RootsWeb's costs exceed its income, we can't provide all the genealogical facilities we'd like to support. These could include online searchable databases of pension records, census indexes, vital records, or countless other valuable genealogical services that we could easily provide -- if only we could afford the staff to support them. And, ultimately, RootsWeb can't even continue to exist if we don't bring our costs and revenues into balance, something we want to have under control before the transition to non-profit status (as opposed to losing money status) is completed. We are doing what we can to remedy the situation. For instance, we are selling banner advertisements where we can. However, this alone will never provide enough revenue to cover the costs of the unbannered volunteer projects which consume most of RootsWeb's resources yet by their very nature produce no direct revenue, even as they provide invaluable content to the genealogical community. The new communities, from their inception, will be fully supported by advertising. They will be paying their own way. We can shift some of the costs of maintaining the Web, mailing list, GenConnect, and search engine servers onto the new communities, so that the new communities will subsidize a genealogical community that hasn't been supporting itself. Although we have been disappointed in the amount of financial support of the genealogical community, we would like to express our deep gratitude to the writer of the letter above and the other 7% of our users who have helped make RootsWeb available to the whole community. Without their support and encouragement, there would be no RootsWeb. If you would like to join the folks who are making RootsWeb possible and thus help us bring new genealogical data online, freely available to all, please visit: <http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html> or send e-mail to: RW-info@rootsweb.com * * * ____________________________________________________________________

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"Scotish-American Heirs 1683-1883," by David Dobson, which records the services of heirs in Scotland, has the following listing: ALLAN, John, in Richfield, Ut [I assume Utah], heir to father Robert ALLAN, manufacturer in Kirkintilloch, Dumbartonshire. d. 6 Sept. 1874, reg. 23 Mar 1878. __________________________ Dibby Allan Green Santa Barbara, California <green@taxlawsb.com>

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Hello James If you have a look at any map of Scotland and find Glasgow, you will see that the river Clyde runs through Glasgow , flowing westward to the sea. Follow the north bank of the Clyde heading north west from Glasgow and you will move into Dumbartonshire. The town of Dumbarton is on the coast before you get to places such as Cardross, Helensburgh etc. If you then go north (approximately) from Helensburgh, you come to Loch Lomond. Does this help you find Dumbarton? Renfrew would be in Renfrewshire which I think is on the opposite or south bank of the Clyde and includes places such as Paisley, Greenock and many other parishes now part of the greater Glasgow area but originally separate towns and villages. Lesley Instone Invercargill NZ > -----Original Message----- > From: RADMCarey@aol.com [SMTP:RADMCarey@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, 3 May 1999 09:39 > To: DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Dumbarton is where?? > > Confused Yank needs assist regarding the location of Dumbarton, > Scotland. Is > that in Dunbartonshire? Or Renfrewshire? Or in Dunbartonshire near > Renfrewshire [presuming Renfrewshire is where Renfrew is located]? > Sorry to > be confused, but it's a long commute to check it out, so I appeal to > my > fellow list members for the answers. > > With all good wishes, > > /S/ > > James J. Carey > Washington, DC

Hello James Find a map of Scotland; locate the extreme south end of Loch Lomond; come southwards from there (it's about 5 miles) to the River Clyde; and that's where Dumbarton is. Dumbarton WAS in Dunbartonshire. The county was named after it. Dumbarton is now in the local authority area called West Dunbartonshire; but for older records (Births, Marriages, Deaths, Census, etc.) you may as well think of it as being Dun/Dumbartonshire. Hope you don't need to hop on to that plane now! Best wishes Arthur Arthur F. Jones Dumbarton Scotland afjones@mailhost.sol.co.uk At 17:38 02/05/1999 EDT, you wrote: >Confused Yank needs assist regarding the location of Dumbarton, Scotland. Is >that in Dunbartonshire? Or Renfrewshire? Or in Dunbartonshire near >Renfrewshire [presuming Renfrewshire is where Renfrew is located]? Sorry to >be confused, but it's a long commute to check it out, so I appeal to my >fellow list members for the answers. > >With all good wishes, > >/S/ > >James J. Carey >Washington, DC > > >==== DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > ********************PLACE YOUR QUERY*********************** > **************on the DUNBARTONSHIRE HOME PAGE****************** > ****http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/4423/index.html*** > > >

Confused Yank needs assist regarding the location of Dumbarton, Scotland. Is that in Dunbartonshire? Or Renfrewshire? Or in Dunbartonshire near Renfrewshire [presuming Renfrewshire is where Renfrew is located]? Sorry to be confused, but it's a long commute to check it out, so I appeal to my fellow list members for the answers. With all good wishes, /S/ James J. Carey Washington, DC

Hello Sharman The parish of BUCHANAN is in Stirlingshire. It is the parish which occupies the east shore of Loch Lomond. It is very beautiful and hilly. Ben Lomond is in Buchanan Parish. I suspect that the surname BROWN in a Highland parish (which Buchanan mostly is) would be an Englished form of something else in Gaelic (MacBrayne?), or an assumed name for MacGregor dating from the time of proscription of that surname. Some of these assumed mames stuck. The most common surnames in Buchanan parish are probably MacFarlane and MacGregor, though there are lots of McAdams and other surnames, including Buchanan itself. "Monach" is the Gaelic for "moor" or "muir". Hope this is of interest. Best wishes Arthur Arthur F. Jones afjones@mailhost.sol.co.uk At 12:39 29/04/1999 EDT, you wrote: >Hello listers! > >I just discovered yesterday a new ancestor, Anne Brown from the parish of >Buchanan who married John Monach in 1765 (my first ever Brown). Does anyone >know where Buchanan parish is and whether it is in Dunbartonshire, Renfrew or >somewhere else? (I have ancestors who've lived in both places. . .) > >Thank you! >Sharman Badgett-Young >Researching Turnbull, Roy, Monach and Rough in Dunbartonshire > > >==== DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > *************To subscribe or unsubscribe:******************* > *****DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-D-request@rootsweb.com***** > DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com > > >

Hello listers! I just discovered yesterday a new ancestor, Anne Brown from the parish of Buchanan who married John Monach in 1765 (my first ever Brown). Does anyone know where Buchanan parish is and whether it is in Dunbartonshire, Renfrew or somewhere else? (I have ancestors who've lived in both places. . .) Thank you! Sharman Badgett-Young Researching Turnbull, Roy, Monach and Rough in Dunbartonshire

Hi out there Just to let anyone know that there is a new surname list for GILCHRIST. To sign up send e-mail to GILCHRIST-L-request@rootsweb.com an type subscribe in the message section - nothing else. Patricia Taggart

Chester Wrote: >Would anyone have a suggestion as to where I would locate the following book: >THE CHIEFS OF COLQUHOUN AND THEIR COUNTRY BY WILLIAM FRASER Chester, have you tried the James Thin Booksellers web site? <http://www.jthin.co.uk/> They're actually in Edinburgh, but ship to the US and take credit cards, and have all the books we can't get over here. Dibby __________________________ Dibby Allan Green Santa Barbara, California <green@taxlawsb.com>

Hello Dina It is neither. It is the day the couple's intention to marry was entered into the marriage book (OPR) being kept by the Session Clerk of the Parish Church. The proclamation dates would follow (rarely entered in the OPR); then the marriage date itself some days later (sometimes given in the OPR). Hope this clarifies the situation Best wishes Arthur Arthur F. Jones afjones@sol.co.uk At 16:15 28/04/1999 +0100, you wrote: >Hello Listers, > >Can anyone help with this please. > >In my records I have the words "James Govan, slater, and >Margaret Gall, both in this parish, gave in their names for >proclamation July 24th 1840". Does this mean the same as having >your banns read in England or is it actually a marriage? > >Dina Broughton <dina@clara.net> > > >==== DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >Arrochar * Bonhill * Cardross * Cumbernauld * Dumbarton * Kilmaronock * Kirkintilloch * Luss * New Kilpatrick * Old Kilpatrick * Rhu (or Rho) * Roseneath > > >