Barbara, Frank, and anyone interested, Someplace on the web I saw a site that the catholic church has - on everything about the church, including how to find church records. Unfortunately, it was about 2:00 in the morning, so I failed to bookmark it. If anyone knows the url, perhaps you could post it here. I'll keep back-tracking also. Patrick

Gordon...thanks for letting us all know about those volumes. Frank, did you get this message? Barb Lewis ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Johnson <Kinman@ifb.co.uk> To: <DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com>; Barbara Lewis <lewisb@vitrex.net> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 6:11 PM Subject: Re: To Frank, and anyone interested in Scottish Catholic Records > Date sent: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:03:23 -0700 > From: "Barbara Lewis" <lewisb@vitrex.net> > To: DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: To Frank, and anyone interested in Scottish Catholic Records > > > Frank...your records are not in the OPR, as you said....I asked to talk to > > the "expert" there on the staff. He told me that there are Catholic records > > that are in the Record Office in Edinburgh, but the LDS church does not have > > those records. > > > > Now, there is a set of 6 volumes written by Michael Gandy on "Catholic > > missions and registers 1700-1880" > > Volume 6 included indexes from Scotland, but would you believe Vol 6 was off > > the shelf the whole day that I was there today. I'm sorry, I didn't ask if > > it was just out, or if they didn't have it. I'll check next time. > *** I have it (of course!), and it lists by place the R.C. churches and notes > what registers exist for each church, including the years covered. You then > have to contact the National Archives of Scotland or the local parish church > to consult the actual records. > Note: most of the local churches do not answer letters on genealogy, so I > would advise getting a searcher to examine the copies in Edinburgh for you. > Most of the R.C. church registers don't start until dates in the late 1800s, so > don't expect anything much earlier. > Gordon Johnson. > Professional Historical/Genealogical Researcher > specialising in pre-1700 records. > Trading as KinHelp. > <http://www.web-ecosse.com/genes/genes2.htm> >

Date sent: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:03:23 -0700 From: "Barbara Lewis" <lewisb@vitrex.net> To: DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: To Frank, and anyone interested in Scottish Catholic Records > Frank...your records are not in the OPR, as you said....I asked to talk to > the "expert" there on the staff. He told me that there are Catholic records > that are in the Record Office in Edinburgh, but the LDS church does not have > those records. > > Now, there is a set of 6 volumes written by Michael Gandy on "Catholic > missions and registers 1700-1880" > Volume 6 included indexes from Scotland, but would you believe Vol 6 was off > the shelf the whole day that I was there today. I'm sorry, I didn't ask if > it was just out, or if they didn't have it. I'll check next time. *** I have it (of course!), and it lists by place the R.C. churches and notes what registers exist for each church, including the years covered. You then have to contact the National Archives of Scotland or the local parish church to consult the actual records. Note: most of the local churches do not answer letters on genealogy, so I would advise getting a searcher to examine the copies in Edinburgh for you. Most of the R.C. church registers don't start until dates in the late 1800s, so don't expect anything much earlier. Gordon Johnson. Professional Historical/Genealogical Researcher specialising in pre-1700 records. Trading as KinHelp. <http://www.web-ecosse.com/genes/genes2.htm>

Frank...your records are not in the OPR, as you said....I asked to talk to the "expert" there on the staff. He told me that there are Catholic records that are in the Record Office in Edinburgh, but the LDS church does not have those records. Now, there is a set of 6 volumes written by Michael Gandy on "Catholic missions and registers 1700-1880" Volume 6 included indexes from Scotland, but would you believe Vol 6 was off the shelf the whole day that I was there today. I'm sorry, I didn't ask if it was just out, or if they didn't have it. I'll check next time. The call number is 942K24tgm V. 6 and V. 6 copy 2. I'm not sure what would be found in that volume. It isn't a very large book. That's all I could find out. There may be someone on this list who has had experience with Catholic records. How about a trip to Edinburgh? Barb Lewis

Hey everyone, During my move to Aunt Verla's, my mail is on hold. Hang in there and I WILL get back to you. I really hope the move goes quickly and with no loss of info from this machine so See Ya'll Later, Verla -------------------- Original Message: Return-Path: <dunbartonshire-genweb-d-request@rootsweb.com> X-Track2: 2 X-Track: 1: 40 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (204.212.38.27) by mta129.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2000 04:18:19 -0000 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20470; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:17:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:17:17 -0800 (PST) From: DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-D-request@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <200001070417.UAA20470@bl-11.rootsweb.com> Subject: DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-D Digest V00 #2 X-Loop: DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume00/2 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com - ---------------------------- Content-Type: text/plain DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 2 Today's Topics: #1 Anyone need a look-up in the Ol _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

I assume that most people have done this...but just in case there are new subscribers that have not exhausted the OPR records (index only) ..... Let me know today...I'm going Friday.....please just names and dates...this is just a look-up...not research... I'm going to the library tomorrow OPR records are also "Scottish Records" that is found in the "Family Search" at the LDS libraries. Barb Lewis

Posting name interests for the new year: MURRAY family of Renton, Dunbarton/Cardross 1860-1960 Family consisted of Hugh Murray (1825-1880) & wife Effie(Munro) Murray(1828-1915) with the following children born at # 1 Back Street, Renton: Margaret(1862-?)married William Cunningham --James, Effie, John Donald(1864-1953) married Margaret Sim(1873?-1903) married Mary Henderson --Hugh(1907);Archibald(1908);Donald(1911-1943); John(1913)-apparently Hugh, Archie & John all had daughters; no sons Jessie(1867-1885) John(1869-1939)went to Canada Hughina(1873-1966) married Robert Colquhoun --James, Effie, Robert, Margaret Hope everyone has lots of luck in their searches. Heather Canada

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Can someone help this person with this question about Priests College? Note his address is the first one below. Thanks so much. Barbara Lewis ----- Original Message ----- From: <MULLE@uk.ibm.com> To: <lewisb@vitrex.net> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 9:30 AM Subject: Former Priest's College, Cardross > > > Hi there Barbara > > On a recent walk around Cardross I discovered a derelict building which I > believe to be a former Priests College and I would be most pleased if you could > give me information on the name etc to enable me to do some research on this > building. > > I am a former student of Interior Design at Glasgow Caledonian and Strathclyde > and am in the middle of trying to finish a Masters - this building could be > useful for a project. > > Thanks in advance for any help that you can give > > Evelyn Mullen > >

See how many hours you are behind the first ones on the planet to celebrate.....I am 20 or 21 hours behind! (mountain time) http://www.cstv.to.cnr.it/toi/uk/timezone.html Barb Lewis

Hello everyone, I am just starting out in researching my family, so I am starting with GGfather HENRY McMONAGLE, he came over from Ireland around 1878 with his wife ANNABELLA DOOHAN and four children JAMES born 1870, Twins JOHN and CHARLES born 1871 and ANNIE born 1876. They first stayed in CARDROSS ,DUNBARTONSHIRE then moved to CHURCH STREET in DUNBARTON at some time. WILLIAM was born in DUNBARTON in 1881. Maybe someone can add to this. I would appreciate any information or advice. Thanks for reading this, Regards Jim McMonigle

This is a reminder as to how to get into messages that were posted before you joined: Go to the archives site: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Type in: DUNBARTONSHIRE-GENWEB where it asks for the name of the list Then click on "submit query" On the next form, fill in the name of the surname you are looking for Please let me know if you have a problem. Barbara Lewis, list manager Now that the presents are scattered and broken I fear.. Back to genealogy it is for the rest of the year! Dunbartonshire Scotland GenWeb Home Page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctdnb/index.htm

Hi listers....not being from Dunbartonshire, I don't know how I would go about helping this person. Does anyone have an idea? Barbara Lewis ----- Original Message ----- From: McIntosh To: lewisb@vitrex.net Sent: Saturday, December 25, 1999 1:39 PM Subject: Wood, Jenny We have been attempting to locate a Mrs. Jenny Wood whose last known address was #5 Cameron Dr. Alexandria Dunbartonshire. She would be in her late 70's. Her husband's name was John and she has a son whose name is either Ron or Rob. My mother (Anne Dover) is quite anxious to contact her as they have known each other since the war and she has lost contact with her. Any leads, suggestions or information you have would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Liz McIntosh

I am searching for birth information on Robert Fraser, possibly born Helensburgh (Rhu) 1831. He was located in Balfron, Stirlingshire in 1841 Census living with Janet Galbraith and a sixteen year old cousin, John Morison.

In a message dated 12/19/1999 9:31:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, heidis@adam.com.au writes: << Would be interested to hear from anyone with interest in any of these names. Heidi >> Please visit www.macfarlane.org Clan MacFarlane On- Line. There is much information and many resources that will be of interest to you. Le gach deagh dhurachd, Michael MacFarlane, President Clan MacFarlane Society, Inc. http://www.macfarlane.org

Hi Everyone, I'm a new subscriber from Australia and am researching my ggg/grandparents Archibald McFARLAN(E) and Mary E(I)RVINE who were married in the parish of Old Kirkpatrick in Dunbarton on 17 March 1843. I have just received their marriage certificate, so as yet know little else about them. The IGI lists the following as children of Archibald McFARLAN(E), labourer and Mary I(E)rvin(ING)e: John McFARLANE b. 1844 in Old Kirkpatrick, Dunbarton Alexander Irving McFARLANE b. 1846 in Old Kirkpatrick, Dunbarton Mary Jane McFARLANE b. 1850 in Colton, Barony, Lanark, c. 1852 in Glasgow, Lanark (my gg/grandmother). Catherine McFARLANE c. 1851, Barony, Lanark Janet McFARLANE b. 1855, in Govan, Lanark Marion McCulloch McFARLANE b. 1858 in Govan, Lanark Would be interested to hear from anyone with interest in any of these names. Heidi Australia

Hi List, This is about my family and some details that have eluded me. William Fergus was born 1762 and married Margaret Marion Rochead before 1791. At least one child was born in Kirkintilloch. They were William b. 1791, Mary b. 1792, Marion b. Apr. 21, 1794, Andrew b. 1796, Margaret b. 1798 and Jean b. 1799. Marion Fergus, b. Kirkintilloch married Alexander McGhee Oct. 3, 1813 at Hamilton, Lanark. She had claimed that she was a descendent of a king of Scotland (I assume she meant Fergus) and that the Duke of Hamilton attended their wedding. Can anyone tell me why the Duke would have attended her wedding unless she was of some aristocratic line? Also, Rochead doesn't seem to be a common name in Scotland. What's the story there? Can anyone answer these questions or help me with family lines? Thanks, Patrick

Good morning all I have been trying to find my ggggrandfather John Devlin , on the 1881 Census for Dumbarton, I have not been able to locate him, I have a copy of his death certificate which states he died in March 1898 aged 70 years, at 45 Henrys Shott, Dumbarton. Could someone please tell me where Henrys Shott, Dumbarton is? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Nancy Lynn

I am sending this to both the Dunbartonshire & Stirlingshire lists in the hope that some kind person may be able to help. My query relates to the parties to a deed of conveyance signed in 1874 and registered in Stirling (I have a copy from the Scottish Record Office published in a book on the RUSSELL family from Denny Stirlingshire). It was signed by my ancestor William CUTHILL on behalf of himself, and the family of his wife Alison (or Ellison) RUSSELL for the transfer of property at Denny which had been owned by Alison Russell's father and grandfather, both named William RUSSELL and deceased. The deed was signed in Helensburgh Dunbartonshire (as William and Alison CUTHILL were managing the farm as Camis Eskan near Cardross at the time) and was witnessed by John CUTHILL described as a salesman to Messrs Arthur & Co Warehousemen Queen Street Glasgow, and by John FRY, described as stationmaster, Neilston, Glasgow. Could someone check the 1871 and 1881 censuses for this John FRY who probably lived at Neilston to see what if any family he had with him. I believe he may be the widower of Isabel RUSSELL, daughter of William RUSSELL, and that there should be at least one child. Isabel had probably died by 1974 when the dead was signed as she is not listed as among the surviving children of William RUSSELL junior. Her husband John FRY may have been born somewhere in England. Any sighting of a likely John CUTHILL, salesman, either living in Glasgow or perhaps commuting to work in Glasgow on the railway from Dunbartonshire (Helensburgh, Cardross, Dumbarton etc) in 1871 or 1881 would also be appreciated. Lesley Instone Invercargill New Zealand

Especially to NEW listers.... Keep in mind that the person that could help you may have just gotten OFF this list....so use the archives to see if there was an earlier post for your surname: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Type in DUNBARTONSHIRE-GEN WEB and in the next screen, type in the surname or subject you are looking for Barbara Lewis lewisb@vitrex.net Dunbartonshire County, Scotland GenWeb Host