--Hi Torie: I am researching the DOLLAR family. I wonder if you could give me a little more information about your Margaret - who were her parents? My DOLLAR family were born in Glasgow, but they were, I believe, connected to the DOLLAR family in Kirkintilloch. I am trying to find this link. George DOLLAR born about 1780/90 married Jean/Jane GILMOUR in Glasgow. I do not know where George was born. They had four children: George born 1814 married Janet LEITCH (our ancestor) Elizabeth born 1816 John born abt. 1819 married Janet MACHAIL, Robert born 1824 - > >and my ancestor: >HOPKIN Robert lawful son of Robert HOPKIN "Hinger here" and Margaret DOLLAR >born 18 March bap 30th Ditto. (I have no idea what that "hinger here" thing >could be or even mean) > > >Here's hoping I help someone of find another cousin! >Torie

Hello, I am searching for descendants of REIDS of Jamestown, Bonhill, Scotland. They are David Reid and Rebecca Graham Andrew Reid and Catherine Cust and their children: Henry m. 1867 to Mary Smith Jean Rebecca m.1861 to Angus Cameron David m. Elizabeth McNiel Catherine m.1873 to Hector Urquhart Robert m. 1875 to Isabella Edmond Denise

I just got a copy of a birth cert I order from Scots Origins. It contains my record and others that may help someone else. Here they are: >From parish of Kirkintilloch County of Dunbarton. Births & Baptisms dated 30 march 1794. ROBERTSON Helen lawful daughter of Charles ROBERTSON and Mary RANKIN born 27 march, baptized 6th ??? - This child is deceased (I'm not sure of the word after 6ht.) BURNET Jean lawful daughter of Wllm BURNET servant to Mr Gray of "Oxgang" and Isobel YOUNG his wife born 8th Jany 1794 and my ancestor: HOPKIN Robert lawful son of Robert HOPKIN "Hinger here" and Margaret DOLLAR born 18 March bap 30th Ditto. (I have no idea what that "hinger here" thing could be or even mean) Here's hoping I help someone of find another cousin! Torie

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Hi list, I'm researching the Kirkintilloch and possibly Bonhill parishes, but nothing has turned up in the established Church of Scotland records for the marriage I want. Can anyone tell me what other parish records (e.g. Roman Catholic, Free Church) exist for these areas circa 1832, and if they're available only in the Scottish National Archives in Edinburgh? Alison Spring East Kilbride Lanarkshire

Hello listers, I am new to this list and these are my interests. I am looking for information on James Watson quarryman and Jessie Smillie. Their daughter Margaret was born 1897 in Cumbernauld. James and Jessie were married Dec 18th 1896. Does this ring any bells with anyone, if so I would love to hear from you. Happy hunting Kate Still researching GILCHRIST/SMILLIE/WATSON/BUIE/BOWIE/McHARDY/McNAB/LAMONT

--part1_73.503b11b.269f14e3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_73.503b11b.269f14e3_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Palhort@aol.com> From: Palhort@aol.com Full-name: Palhort Message-ID: <6f.74e8e81.26972a27@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:42:15 EDT Subject: new To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com, SCT-FIFE-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_73.503b11b.26972a27_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 108 --part2_73.503b11b.26972a27_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part2_73.503b11b.26972a27_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Palhort@aol.com> From: Palhort@aol.com Full-name: Palhort Message-ID: <72.de7a18.269657ca@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:44:42 EDT Subject: Fwd: new To: Palhort@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part3_73.503b11b.269657ca_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 108 --part3_73.503b11b.269657ca_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part3_73.503b11b.269657ca_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Palhort@aol.com> From: Palhort@aol.com Full-name: Palhort Message-ID: <dd.6896e13.26965780@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:43:28 EDT Subject: new To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 108 Hi all, I am stuck and have subscribed to any mailing list of a town that has even been mentioned, in passing, in my research. My goal is to find out who is the mother of my GGrandmother. I have her birth extract which states that Euphemia Couper was born April 18th 1885, in Causewayhead. States father as John Finlay Couper, grocer's salesman, mother as Rebecca Stirling, listed as present. Info on their marriage is May 2nd 1884, Glasgow. There were written places that has been crossed out and stamped w/ a different name. Guessing that the boundries changed, or something. Anyway, the many place names appearing are Dalmuir, Logie, Old Kilpatrick, Dunbarton, Strirling & Perth. I have a document that places John F. Couper at 314 Blythswood Terrace, Clydeb?mk in June 1901. Have found all but mother in the 1891 census. John F. is listed as a married border, age 32, in Kirkcaldy & Abbotshall, Fife. Effie & her brother John are listed as borders, aged 5 & 4, of Christina Drysdale of Perth Road, Dunblane, Perth. I have documentation that signed children over to ?????(no name) in 1893, signed by their Dad. His address stated then was 31 Smith Street, Hillhead, Glasgow. Okay, here's the scoop... Family Rumour is that The mother died and the children were adopted by her sister Rebecca Mary Gray Stirling who was married to Robert McBride Stirling. My GGrandmother knew and remembered these people. They are who she considered her parents. That would make the mother a Gray (but the birth extract states that she was a Stirling). Which, if is rumour, they were adopted by family, would make the mother the sister of Robert Stirling, not Rebecca Gray. I have info on Robert McBride Stirling, but have not been ablr to find any relation to a Rebecca. I have no info on Rebecca mary Gray Stirling. This couple was married in 1895 and listed at 72 Kinsore Rd, Newlands, Glasgow S.E. in 1945. He was a partner in a Jeweler shop at 38 Queen St., Glasgow named Stirling & Stewart. I believe I have found John Finlay Couper's family in 1881 census, at 1 Falshaw St. South Leith, Edinburgh. His Dad is John Couper & his Mom is Margaret Brown. Am guessing that I have Rebecca Stirling's family (Mom on Effie's birth extract) at 537 Govan Rd. Govan, Lanark (It was mentioned by a distant relative that the Stirlings were very prominent people in the Govan area.) The names seem to make sense also... Dad being John Stirling & Mom being Euphemia Kennedy (Turnbull in 1st marriage) Stirling. The children are listed as Rebecca, Euphemia & John (certainly family naming ??). I believe this to be my GGandmother's mother, but have no way of puting her with John Finlay Couper. Have not been able to find documentation of the marriage listed on Effie's birth extract. The GRO couldn't find anything either. SO... if anyone can help I would be most grateful!! Sincerely, Pam --part3_73.503b11b.269657ca_boundary-- --part2_73.503b11b.26972a27_boundary-- --part1_73.503b11b.269f14e3_boundary--

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Looking for various MCKAY families of the Jamestown, Bonhill area. They all were children of John McKay and first wife Janet CALDWELL, and second wife Elizabeth SMITH. 1. John MCKAY (b.c. 1877, Balloch) m. Maggie BAIN 2. James Coulter MCKAY (b. 1882, Balloch) m. Annie MCLEISH 3. Alexander Smith MCKAY (b.1885, Bonhill) m. 1912 Jamestown Agnes LYNN 4. David MCKAY (b. 1888, Bonhill) m. 1917 Jamestown Jeannie LEISHMAN 5. Robert McWhennie MCKAY (b. 1897 Bonhill) m. Georgena KELSO, later a Jean ? . 6. Peter MacFarlane MCKAY (b. 1906 Jamestown) m. Sarah LINDFIELD 7. Jean Caldwell MCKAY (b. 1890 Alexandria) m. 1920 Jamestown, Charles MacARTHUR Brian Manson Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Looking for James BROWN who was living at 7 Thimble Street, Renton in January 1916. He was the nephew of Mary BROWN WAUGH who passed away at that time. We suspect his mother may have been Belle BROWN who lived in Dumbarton. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Gordon Streets -Guide to Glasgow Addresses 1837-1945 Pub. by Glasgow and West of Scotland FHS, Ed, Susan Miller This reference sites several Gordon Streets: Gordon St. Cathcart....renamed Gartly St. Gordon St. Craigton....renamed Kilmaurs St. Gordon St. Whiteinch...renamed Glendore St. 'Hope this helps. Alison Smith

Posted on: Shire of Dunbarton, Scotland Queries Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Dunbarton?read=637 Surname: Loudon, Bryce, Crawford, Watson ------------------------- Hi All. I was visiting the gravesite of my gg-grandparents, Robert Loudon and Margaret Bryce, in Elgin, Quebec, Canada, recently, and took note of the three headstone incriptions below. Maybe someone will find them useful... The _real_ reason I'm posting this is because I'm reasonably sure the inscription on Robert Loudon's headstone reads "Native of Cumbernauld", but that is just a guess on my part because the stone has deteriorated so badly in the middle part of the town name. If anyone could confirm that Cumbernauld is indeed the birthplace of Robert Loudon, I would be forever grateful, because this has been a longstanding "brick wall" to me. The inscriptions follow my signature. Regards, Jim Loudon jloudon@hotmail.com http://www.loudon.org ----- Headstone #1 -- Capt. R. Loudon Died Sept. 17, 1900 Age 90 years Native of Cumbernauld Margaret Bryce His Wife Died July 14, 1891 Age 78 years Native of Iona, Argyll, Scotland ----- Headstone #2 -- Catherine E. Hunter Wife of William Crawford Died March 3, 1895 Aged 64 years, 11 months William Crawford Diead March 18, 1902 Aged 81 years A Native of Cumbernauld, Scotland ----- Headstone #3 -- In Memory Of Charles Crawford Died Aug. 8, 1849 Age 74 years also Jenett Watson Wife of the Above Died Jan. 19, 1863 Age 74 years Natives of Cumbernauld, Scotland

Hi Arthur: I wonder if you know if the Dumbarton Library has an e-mail address. I have their postal address, but thought I might send an e-mail instead. I am interested to find out if they have a Family History of the DOLLAR family. Thank you. Isobel, Uxbridge, Ontario.

Eileen Re Clyde Glasgow,Clyde is a parish in Glasgow,no connection to Clydebank. Could Gordon St.be in Clyde Parish Glasgow ?? are you sure about the Clydebank connection??some people get mixed up with Clydebank,and living on the Banks of the River Clyde,which could be anywhere. Were Williams Parents Wiliiam Livingstone and Helen Brennan ??--I found this in the I.G.I. --if that's the case,then it must be Clyde Glasgow you are looking for. You should try to look at the 1871 census of Clyde Parish Glasgow,it may show you the whole family living at Gordon St.in Glasgow.You can find a list of census films at www.familysearch.org in the Catalogue. Hope this helps,contact me anytime if you have any further questions. Cheers Frank McGonigal Eileen McKay wrote: > Hi Frank > Thanks a million for all your information. This has saved my uncle a trip > to Clydebank. We are trying to do the research between us and he had > suggested perhaps taking a short break to Scotland over the next couple of > months to see if this street still existed. To be quite honest we don't > really have much to go on. My grandfather and his sister, lived in Scotland > for a short no. of years, however when their mother died they came back to > N.I. and were brought up by relatives - their father emigraed to USA. My > grandfather died in 1992, however although he remembered living in Clydebank > he had no recollections of any of his relatives. As I say we have very > little to go on, other than the fact that my Great Grandfather's address was > 21 Gordon Street (this was retrieved from my grandfathers birth > certificate). I have been in the Scottish Origins website and have been > able to collate information re. births around 1860 with the name William > Livingstone, born in Clyde, Glasgow - would this be Clydebank? > Were Williams Parents Wiliiam Livingstone and Helen Brennan ??--I found this > in the I.G.I. --if that's the case,then it must be Clyde Glasgow you are > looking for. > > Once again Frank your response is greatly appreciated. > > -- MZ

I'm researching Andrew Stirling who was the son on Andrew Stirling and Janet Knox. He was born Aug.11, 1820 in Waterside Kirkintilloch, Dunbarton, Scotland. He married Anne Fleming. Would like to hear from people who may have information on this person. I'm willing to share any info I have. M M Stirling mmstirling@prodigy.net

Hi Eileen There was a Gordon St.in Clydebank before the Blitz in 1941,there is a list of bombs that fell on Clydebank,and in two cases it mentions Gordon St.so it was there,and it was probably around the centre of town. My more recent map,1986,mentions a Gordon Rd.I don't know if it's the same one.There is no Gordon St on the list. By the way Clydebank is not in Glasgow.Under the old boundaries,Clydebank was in Dunbartonshire,and Glasgow was in Lanarkshire.Remember this when doing your research before the 1970s However they were quite close to each other,and it can be confusing to anyone not familiar with the area.I was born there!! You should try and check the Scottish Birth Indexes around that time at an L.D.S Family History Centre. Regards Frank McGonigal Eileen McKay wrote: > Posted on: Shire of Dunbarton, Scotland Queries Forum > Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Dunbarton?read=635 > > Surname: LIVINGSTONE > ------------------------- > > Trying to trace my great grandfather born around 1865 in Clydebank, Glasgow. > The only information I have is his name was William Livingstone, with an > address at Gordon Street, Clydebank??? It would be appreciated if someone > could e mail and let me know if this street name is relative to Clydebank > or could it be an outlying village?? -- MZ

Posted on: Shire of Dunbarton, Scotland Queries Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Dunbarton?read=636 Surname: LIVINGSTONE ------------------------- Trying to trace Great grandfather - only known address is 21 Gordon Street, Clydebank. He was born around 1868, married Mary Coulter from NI. She died around 1906 and William Livingstone emigrated to USA. Trying to trace relatives of William Livingstone

Posted on: Shire of Dunbarton, Scotland Queries Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Dunbarton?read=635 Surname: LIVINGSTONE ------------------------- Trying to trace my great grandfather born around 1865 in Clydebank, Glasgow. The only information I have is his name was William Livingstone, with an address at Gordon Street, Clydebank??? It would be appreciated if someone could e mail and let me know if this street name is relative to Clydebank or could it be an outlying village??