Hi pam There is a orchardton road in Westfield, Dunbartonshire. So that may give you a little clue as to the whereabout that farm may have been. I am still trying to pull up the old map of the area but as per usual when you need the internet sites and servers to work, they fail you. I will keep trying Rik todd -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUNB] Place Name Help Hi Pam, In my Topographical Dictionary of Scotland, by Lewis, I found an ORCHARTON Bay, Sorbie. Sorbie is a parish in the district of Machers, county of Wigtown. KIRKINTILLOCH is a burgh of barony and a parish in the county of Dumbarton. Sorry I couldn't find anything about Archardton. Janet In a message dated 11/18/2006 10:21:50 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Dear Listers: Does anyone know where the location of an "ORCHARDTON" or possibly "ARCHARDTON", KIRKINTILLOCH, DUNBARTON would have been in 1860? I suspect this was a farm or estate as my great-great grandfather, ARCHIBALD MCINTYRE was a ploughman there in 1860. Any help with this location would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Pam (Mack) Nixon Westland, Pennsylvania USA [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pam, This is a clickable map of John Thompson's 1823 Dumbartonshire. It shows the farm names. Kirkintilloch is on the lower right. I took a quick look but did not spot either name. Mind you, names do change over 40 years. The next published may is the Ordnance Survey of 1898-1904 and you don't get many farm names. http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/500.html Cheers!!! Don Muirhead Port Dover, ON CA -----Original Message----- From: Pamela J. Nixon [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: November 18, 2006 11:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUNB] Place Name Help Dear Listers: Does anyone know where the location of an "ORCHARDTON" or possibly "ARCHARDTON", KIRKINTILLOCH, DUNBARTON would have been in 1860? I suspect this was a farm or estate as my great-great grandfather, ARCHIBALD MCINTYRE was a ploughman there in 1860. Any help with this location would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Pam (Mack) Nixon Westland, Pennsylvania USA [email protected] --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new house payment ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pam, In my Topographical Dictionary of Scotland, by Lewis, I found an ORCHARTON Bay, Sorbie. Sorbie is a parish in the district of Machers, county of Wigtown. KIRKINTILLOCH is a burgh of barony and a parish in the county of Dumbarton. Sorry I couldn't find anything about Archardton. Janet In a message dated 11/18/2006 10:21:50 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Dear Listers: Does anyone know where the location of an "ORCHARDTON" or possibly "ARCHARDTON", KIRKINTILLOCH, DUNBARTON would have been in 1860? I suspect this was a farm or estate as my great-great grandfather, ARCHIBALD MCINTYRE was a ploughman there in 1860. Any help with this location would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Pam (Mack) Nixon Westland, Pennsylvania USA [email protected]

Hi All, Looking for any information on DUNCAN MCNAUGHT born abt 1828. Also his brothers William abt 1830, and John abt 1833. Any help with these three brothers would be appreciated. I think they were born in Cardross. Thank you, Kathleen (Canada)

Dear Listers: Does anyone know where the location of an "ORCHARDTON" or possibly "ARCHARDTON", KIRKINTILLOCH, DUNBARTON would have been in 1860? I suspect this was a farm or estate as my great-great grandfather, ARCHIBALD MCINTYRE was a ploughman there in 1860. Any help with this location would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Pam (Mack) Nixon Westland, Pennsylvania USA [email protected] --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new house payment

Interested! I've seen the record you have posted here. I have a connection with PARK just as I have with ROWAT and I have recently found my CHESTERS ancestry married with PARK. I am in the genealogical tide without a paddle to Ireland. I have Edward CHESTER(S) m Elizabeth PARK, date unknown. Elizabeth PARK's parents wre apparently Edwart CHESTER(s) and Mary DUNCAN b Ireland 1780 Edward CHESTERS who married Elizabeth PARK was apparently born in Ireland in 1811. Their first son Edward CHESTER b 1836 was married 1861 to Elizabeth MURDOCH. Other children in the CHESTER/PARK line born in Ireland and some in Cumbernauld Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Park > Classification: Census > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WeC.2ACI/1333.2 > > Message Board Post: > > Allison, > > Please note the following from the 1881 Census > > Dwelling: Barnhill > Census Place: Cumbernauld, Dumbarton, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0203548 GRO Ref Volume 495 EnumDist 10 Page 8 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Hugh PARK M 61 M Crosshill, Ayr, Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Minister Church Of Scotland > Ellen PARK M 60 F Dublin, Ireland > Rel: Wife > Amelia K. PARK U 21 F Cumbernauld, Dunbarton, Scotland > Rel: Daugr > Agnes ROWAT U 24 F Cumbernauld, Dunbarton, Scotland > Rel: Servt > Occ: General Servt Domestic

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: PARK Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WeC.2ACI/1333.2.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for this! I'm finding it hard to find Scottish records if I don't want to spend lots of money on ScottishPeople (or whatever it's called). Any suggestions for online resources, or discs I can order? I live in Asia, so don't have easy access to UK records. Allison

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Park Classification: Census Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WeC.2ACI/1333.2 Message Board Post: Allison, Please note the following from the 1881 Census Dwelling: Barnhill Census Place: Cumbernauld, Dumbarton, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203548 GRO Ref Volume 495 EnumDist 10 Page 8 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Hugh PARK M 61 M Crosshill, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Minister Church Of Scotland Ellen PARK M 60 F Dublin, Ireland Rel: Wife Amelia K. PARK U 21 F Cumbernauld, Dunbarton, Scotland Rel: Daugr Agnes ROWAT U 24 F Cumbernauld, Dunbarton, Scotland Rel: Servt Occ: General Servt Domestic

Birth: 20 JUN 1801 Bonhill, Dumbarton, Scotland Parents: Father: DONALD MACNAUGHT Family Mother: MARION DAWSON Assuming this is the John you mean. By 1841 census he may be married and with wife and children or moved away from the area. The census search does not have a Donald and or Marion in the parish. There are a couple of John McNaught with wife and children but may not be yours. Regards John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathleen McNaught Sent: 10 November 2006 13:22 To: [email protected] Subject: [DUNB] McNaught Hello, I have a John McNaught born in 1801 and his sister in 1799, in Bonhill area. Does anyone have access to the records of Bonhill to see if these two are on it with their parents? Any help greatfully accepted, Kathleen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John, This is indeed the John that I am looking for. Mainly I am trying to find his parents and information on them. When I looked at the OPR it showed a Donald MacNaughton which could be the right one but as it didn't show his wife I am not sure. Thank you for your help. If you can come up with anything else please let me know. Thanks again, Kathleen Birth: 20 JUN 1801 Bonhill, Dumbarton, Scotland Parents: Father: DONALD MACNAUGHT Family Mother: MARION DAWSON Assuming this is the John you mean. By 1841 census he may be married and with wife and children or moved away from the area. The census search does not have a Donald and or Marion in the parish. There are a couple of John McNaught with wife and children but may not be yours. Regards John Hello, I have a John McNaught born in 1801 and his sister in 1799, in Bonhill area. Does anyone have access to the records of Bonhill to see if these two are on it with their parents? Any help greatfully accepted, Kathleen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I have a John McNaught born in 1801 and his sister in 1799, in Bonhill area. Does anyone have access to the records of Bonhill to see if these two are on it with their parents? Any help greatfully accepted, Kathleen

Could it be a question of the reversal of dd/mm/yy as opposed to mm/dd/yy Our records are always dd/mm/yy Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> > If anyone has access to http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/, could you please > do one birth lookup for me. I have a birth certificate for Cardross Parish, > Dumbartonshire, that I received from GRO that doesn't seem to be correct. I > believe they may have made a mistake when they transcribed the record to the > certificate. GRO wrote "was born the 10th and Baptised the 2nd of September > 1817". It appears that the birth month would be August but I would like to > be > sure about the birth date. > > If anyone can straighten this out for me, I would appreciate it very much. > > Thank you, > Janet

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WeC.2ACI/1354 Message Board Post: I am seeking volunteers for the FreeReg project. FreeReg is taking another look at the parish registers - births, deaths, marriages. Unlike the IGI and Scotlands People index, details other than names and dates from these records will be included in the database. This project covers England and Wales as well. I am currently working on baptisms for Nairn, Nairn and find that the father's occupation is listed on many records (helps narrow the playing field in my own family research). On a few, I have found relationships indicated. I am sure that is not the case in all parishes. My cousin is also a volunteer for part of Argyll and his records are not as detailed. I imagine that it depends on the parish. These records are on microfiche. You would need access to a reader or you can take the route that I did and purchase one on ebay relatively cheaply. A project of this size has never been undertaken before and much help is needed. This is for those of you who believe that our ancestry should not be for sale until we can make an informed decision on what we are purchasing...........an extremely worthwhile project!! This project does not pretend to take the place of verifying the records yourself, but will certainly narrow the list down. For more information: http://www.freereg.org.uk/ I am seeking volunteers for Nairnshire. If interested in other areas in Scotland, please contact Anne Fish, the Scotland Coordinator, at [email protected] Any takers for part of Nairnshire..........? Sherry for Nairnshire FreeReg.

ScotlandsPeople answers personal questions just like yours for Registrations or Old Parish Records that cannot easily be read. They check the original and send you the correct data. Anyone can request assistance, some records received are totally illegible. The homepage for ScotlandsPeople has a CONTACT US link that you can use to write an eMail to them explaining that the record you received is either in error or unreadable. Of course, this could just be a mistake of the clerk in forgetting that the 10th was in the previous month. Make sure the 'and' is not Aug. and make sure the 10th is not the 1st. ScotlandsPeople will NEED to know the data for the particular search you did....meaning the DATE and TIMESTAMP for that search. Go to the homepage and log in. Even if you have not got an active session going, you can access the PREVIOUS SEARCHES tab for the search you did. Send them that data written by that search for the date and time, etc and they will do the rest. I've asked about 4 times for clarification and gotten it in a timely fashion, even if my session was ended. Good luck ! Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA.

If anyone has access to http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/, could you please do one birth lookup for me. I have a birth certificate for Cardross Parish, Dumbartonshire, that I received from GRO that doesn't seem to be correct. I believe they may have made a mistake when they transcribed the record to the certificate. GRO wrote "was born the 10th and Baptised the 2nd of September 1817". It appears that the birth month would be August but I would like to be sure about the birth date. If anyone can straighten this out for me, I would appreciate it very much. Thank you, Janet

Why not re-ask them? To err is human............ R ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:06 PM Subject: [DUNB] help with a birth record > If anyone has access to http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/, could you > please > do one birth lookup for me. I have a birth certificate for Cardross > Parish, > Dumbartonshire, that I received from GRO that doesn't seem to be correct. > I > believe they may have made a mistake when they transcribed the record to > the > certificate. GRO wrote "was born the 10th and Baptised the 2nd of > September > 1817". It appears that the birth month would be August but I would like > to > be > sure about the birth date. > > If anyone can straighten this out for me, I would appreciate it very much. > > Thank you, > Janet > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello List, Is there anyone who has a WILLIAM McCARTER born about 1808 in their tree he was probably born in Dumbarton, dunbartonshire, Scotland. Why I am asking is that there is a William McCarter lodging with my 3X Great Grandfather John Fergus in the 1871 Census in Walker, Longbenton, Northumberland, England. And that William McCarter/ even spelt McCarthur/McCarther could be related to John Fergus by marriage, as John Fergus married Agnes McArther on 7, November 1834 in Dumbarton. And her fathers name was William McArther and her mothers name was Agnes Houston. I know Agnes McArther's siblings names were Susannah McArther born August 1816 Elizabeth McArther born in 1818. John McArther born August 1821 and Thomas McArther born April 1823. all were born in Dumbarton, Dunbartonshire, Scotland. John Fergus and Agnes McArther born August 1814 had a daughter named Elizabeth Fergus born between 1839 - 1841 in Glasgow or Dumbarton. Elizabeth Fergus married Andrew Campbell born in Kirkcolm, Wigtownshire, Scotland but then he probably moved to Dumbarton with his parents Alexander and Agnes Campbell nee Kelly, As Alexander and Agnes Campbell both lived and died there in 1864 and 1865. The Campbell family moved to Dumbarton, Dunbartonshire, Scotland between 1855 and 1856. My 2x great Grandparents were Andrew and Elizabeth Campbell nee Fergus they had moved to Hartlepool, Durham, England by 1857 where they were married on 9, November 1857 they had their first child a daughter named Agnes Campbell born about 1858 in Hartlepool, Durham, England. But by February 1862 when my Great Grandfather Andrew Campbell was born in Low Walker, Longbenton, Northumberland. They had another son named John Fergus Campbell born between 1864 - 1865 then another daughter Elizabeth Campbell born 1868 in Walker and then William McCarter/McCarther Campbell born between 1872 and 1873 in Walker. This has made me think was the lodger William McCarter who was staying with Elizabeth's father John Fergus meant to be McArther maybe and maybe Elizabeth's Grandfather or Uncle? The Lodger William McCarter was a Ships Carpenter born in Scotland about 1808? Could someone help me out with this Puzzle Please. Thank you in advance for any help i might receive. Kind Regards Pamela J Groves

I cannot speak to this particular person, but if you have not yet noticed it, many of the Jargons also show up in the records as Jardin or Jardine. Good hunting. Jack Butler -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 3:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DUNB] Marriage lookup of Christine Jargon, born 1660 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WeC.2ACI/1353 Message Board Post: I am looking for an ancestor, whose name was Christine Jargon. She married William Douglas in 1681, in Bonhill, Scotland It was in the parish of Bonhill, Church of Scotland. If you have any more information on Baptism of their children, or any information on William Douglas, her Husband. Also I am trying to find out if she had a child named John Douglas, born in 1695. James Evans ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WeC.2ACI/1352 I'm looking for the grave of Grace Brown( nee Lutton) died 22 Oct 1938 & Elizabeth Hendry (nee Brown) died 15 Feb 1954. They are mother & daughter, the grave probably also holding Malcolm Brown who died between the dates above. An Elderly relative has confirm burial in Kilbowie Cemetery but is unable to make the journey to show me its location. Has anyone ever noticed it whilst visiting the cemetery?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WeC.2ACI/1353 Message Board Post: I am looking for an ancestor, whose name was Christine Jargon. She married William Douglas in 1681, in Bonhill, Scotland It was in the parish of Bonhill, Church of Scotland. If you have any more information on Baptism of their children, or any information on William Douglas, her Husband. Also I am trying to find out if she had a child named John Douglas, born in 1695. James Evans