Hi Frank No, don't mention it Frank, just the push I need to get to Glasgow. As it's only bit's and pieces I'm going for I would probably have waited until I wanted a few more hours worth before going in anyway, so it is a pleasure. I have had a quick look at PRA, but will print to take to Mitchell and study it a bit more. There was mention of Centre Street, my Gallacher family lived at various numbers, 32, 34, 36 and 91 Centre Street from 1861 till at least 1894. Margaret Gallacher was born in 1880, and wasn't married in 1909, when her mother made application for PR and named her children and their status, to date have not found connection to any other Gallacher families in Scotland, so don't know who she may be named for. Now Nevin, I have found out in the last few years that one of my g grandfather's (John Clenaghan)brothers, namely Thomas, descendant's married an Irish chap called Nevins around about 1975. That branch of the Clenaghan's had moved to Dundee c.1928-35. Mary now lives in Ireland. There is also a Catherine Owens somewhere in that line, through marriage, can't find it at the moment but will keep looking, this is in the Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire area. My gr grandfather John Clenaghan, born Old Monkland 1882, parents John Clenaghan and Mary Keegan(s). He married Mary Duffy in 1903 in Port Glasgow, where the family had moved bet. 1895-1901. He was a Gunner in 2nd Siege Battery, RGA and his regiment number was 216243. The mystery surrounding him is in the fact he died in Port Glasgow on 3rd July 1918, of Influenza & Lobar Pneumonia (3 days). Family younger generation say memory is that he had deserted his post to come home following the birth of his youngest daughter Helen in May of 1918 - this memory is from her children, so could be the case, however he is commemorated on the CWGC which I didn't think would be the case if he had deserted. Then after I began doing research, I was in touch with the person who has given me the info. re Catherine Owens (that I need to find for you), who is married to a descendant of my gr grandfather's brother James, and she sent me his marriage reg. showing that he married on the day my gr. grandfather died, so now I wonder if he had got time to come home (during the war ? - well 3rd July 1918) for the wedding. He died during the night, the wedding obviously went ahead a few hours later, but it must have been a sombre occasion. I don't know where he was stationed but if memory serves I believe Barrow could have been mentioned in relation to him, but I'm not sure. Gosh Frank, you must be thrilled to discover you can link as far back as the ancients, :-D I'm just going to have a look at the DNA link you sent, although when I've tried to understand these in the past my eyes have kind of glazed over, so wish me luck. Had a look and a few of my names, O'Neil, Gallac(g)her are there, but whoosh, eyes glazed over again when I look around at the technical data. Hope I've not missed anything, I'll get back to you when I find what I have on my Catherine Owens. Best Wishes Ava Connelly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of frank mcgonigal Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland Thanks very much Ava,I really appreciate this. McGonigal is certainly a Donegal name with roots in Inishowen,not sure about Coyle,but it's a very common name in Ireland. My gr.gr.grandfather James Nevin,born 1827, also came from Derry,his wifes name was Catherine Owens. Their daughter Mary Ann my gr.gran. was born "At Sea" west of the Mull of Kintyre. James parents were ???? Nevin and Margaret Gallacher( could we have a connection there ?:o). Catherine Owens parents were Hugh Owens and Ellen McCracken/McCrocken. As to Hughs army service,it was in his poor law application,I'll send you a copy later.I hired someone to check the records at Kew,it wasn't too expensive,and in your case it would be well worth the cost.I didn't get much more on Hugh because he got sick and left too soon. Send me your grandfathers details and I'll see if I can advise you or find anything. By the way I've had my Y DNA done and it proves coclusively that I'm a McGonigal from the Donegal area from "way back when",even Y DNA related to Nial of the Nine hostages !!!. The web site for Y DNA info on this is.. http://www.familytreedna.com/ Try your names and see if there's a project going. Regards Frank ~~~~~~~~ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1048 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com

Sorry Keith, Needed extra eyes myself, should have read on after finding Jean. Just had another thought last night after logging off and going to bed, (I don't count sheep, just ancestors, works everytime), could she have been born at sea on an Irish Registered ship? Although the timeframe again is a bit skew-whiff even for that. Good luck with obtaining your documents, I hate waiting for news, but it's usually worth it, as my dad used to say, anything worth having is worth waiting for. Best Wishes Ava Connelly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 2:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUNB] bonhill Hi Ava Its Keith :-) Tree info has to be corrected Jeans info may be b in 1866 still determining exact date. thanks for extra eyes Remember I am working BROWNs LOL One of our nightmare states for getting documents from is New Jersey they keep changing the rules just about the time you get ready to ask for a document or they raise the prices. Keith W Brown Indianapolis IN. http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/r/o/Keith-W-Brown -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1048 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com

Coyle is a very common name in Donegal. Just go into www.familysearch.org and put Coyle in surname and Ireland as country to see what I mean. Millions are related to Nial of the Nine hostages, His family of sons got around a bit. Pat

Hi everyone Happy New Year. My family lived in the above cottage said to be "the oldest cottage still inhabited" near Loch Lomond according to a local researcher who lived nearby. My family lived there at least from 1824 when the first child of George and Agnes Macfarlan was born, until 1888 upon the death of s daughter who never married. How do I obtain information about the cottage and who owned or leased it? It is mentioned in the inventory of possessions taken from the last Macfarlane chief before he left for America. George was a wood oversee, possibly for the Duke of Argyll? Regards Cathy

Hi Janet Send me details of your lost relatives, I'll have a look when I'm at the library. A few years ago I did get poor relief record at the Mitchell for Dumbarton in 1870's. Always worth contacting the Dumbarton Library yourself too, just to cover all bases. Best Wishes Ava Connelly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland How can I obtain a Poor Relief Application. After reading all the email about Poor Relief applications, I now wonder if that is why I cannot find any further record or information on one of my ancestors who lived in Dunbartonshire. Janet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 06/01/2007 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1047 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com

Hi Pat Have you seen this article ? http://www.familytreedna.com/matchnialltest.html Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada. ~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: [DUNB] Coyles > Coyle is a very common name in Donegal. > Just go into www.familysearch.org and put Coyle in surname and Ireland as > country to see what I mean. > Millions are related to Nial of the Nine hostages, His family of sons got > around a bit. > > Pat

Hi Ava Its Keith :-) Tree info has to be corrected Jeans info may be b in 1866 still determining exact date. thanks for extra eyes Remember I am working BROWNs LOL One of our nightmare states for getting documents from is New Jersey they keep changing the rules just about the time you get ready to ask for a document or they raise the prices. Keith W Brown Indianapolis IN. http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/r/o/Keith-W-Brown -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [DUNB] bonhill Hi Sue Checking when Jean was born your tree shows October 1867, yet they sailed in May? Could they have broken the journey? One of my relatives going to Australia had to travel to London for the ship, just a thought that they may have gone to NI to join a ship and circumstances of Jean's birth may have altered them and they later travelled from Glasgow. The timeline is a bit confusing. Best Wishes Ava Connelly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUNB] bonhill In a message dated 1/7/2007 12:19:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Do you have any basis for your suggestion they might have been sent to Ireland as a punishment or for other reasons. Hi Janet. Below is the tree that was still in Scotland before emigrating to the states they sailed from Glasgow to New York in May of 1867. In Census records Jean lists her birth place as Ireland. I have the Documents for all the other prior siblings from the GRO Just tossing out a line to see why Jean is in Ireland prior to Sailing to America. Trying to determine the family path in time frame of 1829-1867 Descendants of William Brown 2nd 1 [1] William Brown 2nd 1829 - 1892 b: 1829 in Alexandria, Dunbarton, Scotland d: 16-February-1892 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey Census: 03-June-1880 Silk Printer/listed as trade in 1880, Fed.census Fact 2: 06-June-1856 residence of Alexandria, occup. a Printer from Fact 3: marriage record extract from Scotland GRO. . +Janet MacDonald 1834 - 1857 b: 1834 in Scotland d: 24-November-1857 in Bridgeton,Glasgow,Scotland m: 06-June-1856 in Bonhill, Dumbarton, Scotland Father: John McDonald Mother: Elizabeth McKinlay ........... 2 William Brown 3rd 1857 - 1939 b: 06-May-1857 in 62 Rumsford St. Bridgeton Dist., Burgh of Glascow, Scotland d: 22-January-1939 in 2103 Clarkson Ave, Germantown, Philadelphia Co., Pa. ............... +Fannie Miers Vreeland 1857 - 1932 b: 23-November-1857 d: 01-December-1932 in 2103 Clarkson Ave, Germantown, Philadelphia Co., Pa. m: 19-May-1881 in Paterson, New Jersey Father: Abraham E. Vreeland Mother: Mary Gawn *2nd Wife of [1] William Brown 2nd: . +Euphemia Brown 1835 - 1895 b: 03-December-1835 in Parish of Denny, County of Stirling, Scotland d: 08-April-1895 in Paterson, New Jersey m: 03-June-1859 in 63 Tobago Street, District of Calton, Burgh of Glascow, Scotland Father: John Brown Mother: Isabella Forsyth ........... 2 Isabella Forsyth Brown 1861 - 1926 b: 09-January-1861 in Alexandria, Bonhill Parish, Dunbarton, Scotland d: 27-June-1926 in St. Lukes Hospital, New York City Census: 03-June-1880 listed as a silk weaver 1880 Federal census ............... +Thomas Wallace Bentley 1861 - 1932 b: 07-February-1861 in Bradford, Yorkshire, England d: 26-October-1932 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey m: 14-March-1881 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey Father: John Bentley Mother: Harriet Hargreaves Census: Abt. April-1861 Horton Twp.,City of Bradford,Municipal ward Little Horton,Yorkshire Co., England ........... 2 Annie Peacock Brown 1862 - 1936 b: 24-October-1862 in Susannah St., Alexandria Bonhill, Dunbartonshire, Scotland d: 11-July-1936 in Paterson, New Jersey ............... +Richard Burch Dilworth 1846 - 1921 b: 03-January-1846 in Oxford, Pennsylvania d: 13-April-1921 in Newton Sussex Co., New Jersey m: 14-April-1908 in Newton, Sussex Co., New Jersey Father: Richard Burch Dilworth Mother: Harriett Wilson Census: Bet. 1885 - 1889 Territorial Census Records Vashon Island,Kings Co., Washington ........... 2 Daniel Brown 1864 - 1948 b: 01-May-1864 in Susannah St., Alexandria, Bonhill Parish, Dunbarton, Scotland/Alexandria, Scotland d: 05-February-1948 in Green Castle, Pennsylvania Census: 03-June-1880 lists trade as silk printer/1880 Federal census Fact 2: 09-May-1864 Entered to the Register of Births # 108 Fact 3: May 1, 1864 at 5:20 in the evening. ............... +Margaret 1863 - b: April-1863 in Scotland ........... 2 Jean Brown 1867 - 1937 b: October-1867 in Northern Ireland d: 07-May-1937 in Paterson, New Jersey ............... +Alexander MacKendrick 1863 - 1931 b: 26-May-1863 in Elderslie, District of Abbey (Landward), County of Renfrew, Scotland d: 28-October-1931 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey m: 10-April-1889 in Paterson, New Jersey Father: Archibald MacKendrick Mother: Annie Taylor Robertson ........... 2 Euphemia Beverage Brown 1870 - 1931 b: 13-October-1870 in Little Falls, Passaic Co., NewJersey d: 30-March-1931 in Sacred Heart Hospital, Allentown, Pennsylvania ............... +Judson B. Brink 1879 - 1965 b: 28-September-1879 d: October-1965 in Allentown,Lehigh Co., Pennsylvania m: 16-November-1899 ........... 2 John Brown 1873 - 1942 b: 21-November-1873 in Paterson, Passaic Co., NewJersey d: 27-October-1942 in Shamokin, Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania Census: 03-June-1880 #178/Pg.13/sup dist.83/enum. dist.158 Fact 2: Paterson, Passaic Co., 1880 fed census age 6 ............... +Isabelle Mae Leckie 1871 - 1956 b: 02-September-1871 in Troy, Rennseler Co., New York d: 17-March-1956 in Shamokin, Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania m: 04-October-1899 in Jersey City, Hudson Co., New Jersey Father: John A. Leckie Mother: Susie Borden ........... 2 Mary Lee Brown 1877 - 1909 b: 1877 in Paterson, Passaic Co., NewJersey d: 26-March-1909 in Cos Cob, Conn. ............... +Archibald R. Paton m: 15-December-1898 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey ........... 2 Margaret Marshall Brown 1879 - 1947 b: Abt. October-1879 in Paterson, Passaic Co., NewJersey d: 04-May-1947 in Germantown Hospital, Penn & Chester Sts. Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA.19144 Keith W Brown Indianapolis IN http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/o/Keith-W-Brown ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 06/01/2007 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1045 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. 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Hi Frank I've noted the names, so will have a look for Mary when I visit Mitchell. I'm visiting for bits here and there to fill gaps, so will not be a problem. Thankfully this visit will not involve trawling through rolls of census'. My gg grandfather also stated he was from Derry in one of the census, although I have my doubts as his family given names all seem to indicate Donegal, and with a name like Gallac(g)her, in Ireland I am probably unlikely to find out, although with Manus and Sophia as part of the traditional family names back in the 1860-1880's I remain hopeful - did I say that :-D. Lucky you to have Hugh's army service, my g grandfather, who was in the army in 1901 and again during WWI died in 1918, a bit of a mystery there that I would love to know more about. How did you get enough information to obtain his record? I have the name of his regiment, service number, date and place of death, next of kin, but as far as I can gather these records require you to go to Kew and just search through boxes of files, so although I have a cousin in London I wouldn't ask him to go unless I could direct him to a straightforward search - assuming he wouldn't mind, I forget everyone isn't as excited as I am about old dusty records. Best Wishes Ava Connelly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of frank mcgonigal Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 2:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland Hi Ava Yes I have Hughs Poor Relief Application,and also his Death Cert.,which stated that he was married,but didn't give his parents names. I paid Des Garrity to check for Hugh and Sarah,but not for Mary,I only learned of her and brother John recently from a ( Believe it or not) Mary McGonigal in Glasgow,she found both Hugh and Sarahs childrens Baptisms ...Mary b.1837,and John b. 1838...in National Archives in Edinburgh. I even have a record of Hughs army service fom Kew,but he took sick after only 18 Mths and wasn't pensioned. The only thing I really found out was that he said he was from Derry in the Poor Appl.,and Londonderry in the army records. I know they're both the same,just depends on your religious persuasion. Thanks for the offer a a look up at the Mitchell,you probably won't find Sarah,but you may find Mary,but please don't spend too much time on this. Thanks Frank .. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "AC" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland > Hi Frank > > Do you have Hugh McGunigal's poor relief application? There isn't always > a > record, for instance the man I mentioned before did return to Scotland, > dying in Merryflats Poorhouse in 1906, but in the hospital part, so no > record of that admission, except for mention on death register. > > Further to him being sent to Ireland "Settlement Ireland", his wife, born > of > Scottish parents, in Glasgow, was given his settlement and also sent to > Ireland about a month later, when she made an application. > > I'm hoping to be visiting the Mitchell in the next few weeks and could > have > a look just in case either Sarah Coyle or Mary McGu(o)nigal applied for > assistance, as I've found happened in my family after the death of the > husband/father. > > At one point while I was searching for Poor Relief info, I found a study > which indicated that many Irish who should have been given aid were > wrongly > sent back to the parish of their birth. The criteria was I believe that a > person who had been employed for a number of years in the parish should be > afforded Poor Relief, but this seemed to have been largely ignored by some > of the "Authorities". Of course can't remember where that was now, but if > I > find it I'll pass it on. > > Best Wishes > Ava Connelly > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of frank > mcgonigal > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland > > > Hi Ava > I've heard about that happening,but this is the first instance that I've > come across that is documented,although there are probably many more. > > My gr.gr.grandfather Hugh McGunigal,born Ireland abt1816,died in the > Glasgow > > Poor House in 1863. > > His wife Sarah Coyle,born abt 1816,seems to have disappeared after that > event,although I've had various people searching for her in Scotland,as > well > > as my own attempts to find her. > > Their son born 1838,and his family,went to USA in 1874,but she wasn't with > him,a daughter Mary born 1837 also disappeared,and efforts to trace her > have > > been unsuccessful. > > Maybe I should be looking to Ireland for them !. > > Thanks > Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Contact the Mitchell Library Glasgow, they have the books there. You can get the address in www.google.com jock -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 08 January 2007 08:10 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland How can I obtain a Poor Relief Application. After reading all the email about Poor Relief applications, I now wonder if that is why I cannot find any further record or information on one of my ancestors who lived in Dunbartonshire. Janet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks very much Ava,I really appreciate this. McGonigal is certainly a Donegal name with roots in Inishowen,not sure about Coyle,but it's a very common name in Ireland. My gr.gr.grandfather James Nevin,born 1827, also came from Derry,his wifes name was Catherine Owens. Their daughter Mary Ann my gr.gran. was born "At Sea" west of the Mull of Kintyre. James parents were ???? Nevin and Margaret Gallacher( could we have a connection there ?:o). Catherine Owens parents were Hugh Owens and Ellen McCracken/McCrocken. As to Hughs army service,it was in his poor law application,I'll send you a copy later.I hired someone to check the records at Kew,it wasn't too expensive,and in your case it would be well worth the cost.I didn't get much more on Hugh because he got sick and left too soon. Send me your grandfathers details and I'll see if I can advise you or find anything. By the way I've had my Y DNA done and it proves coclusively that I'm a McGonigal from the Donegal area from "way back when",even Y DNA related to Nial of the Nine hostages !!!. The web site for Y DNA info on this is.. http://www.familytreedna.com/ Try your names and see if there's a project going. Regards Frank ~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "AC" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:22 AM Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland > Hi Frank > > I've noted the names, so will have a look for Mary when I visit Mitchell. > I'm visiting for bits here and there to fill gaps, so will not be a > problem. > Thankfully this visit will not involve trawling through rolls of census'. > > My gg grandfather also stated he was from Derry in one of the census, > although I have my doubts as his family given names all seem to indicate > Donegal, and with a name like Gallac(g)her, in Ireland I am probably > unlikely to find out, although with Manus and Sophia as part of the > traditional family names back in the 1860-1880's I remain hopeful - did I > say that :-D. > > Lucky you to have Hugh's army service, my g grandfather, who was in the > army > in 1901 and again during WWI died in 1918, a bit of a mystery there that I > would love to know more about. How did you get enough information to > obtain > his record? > > I have the name of his regiment, service number, date and place of death, > next of kin, but as far as I can gather these records require you to go to > Kew and just search through boxes of files, so although I have a cousin in > London I wouldn't ask him to go unless I could direct him to a > straightforward search - assuming he wouldn't mind, I forget everyone > isn't > as excited as I am about old dusty records. > > Best Wishes > Ava Connelly > > >

How can I obtain a Poor Relief Application. After reading all the email about Poor Relief applications, I now wonder if that is why I cannot find any further record or information on one of my ancestors who lived in Dunbartonshire. Janet

Hi Cathy I would love a picture of the house,perhaps the earliest on you have, Many thanks Glenda --- Cathy Dowie <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Glenda > Yes I do have several photographs of the cottage, > taken at different times. > I visited the current owners in 2001. It is in old > maps of Tarbet too. > > The researcher mentioned died several years ago. He > was a Mr Douglas who > lived in Dundaroch, a home which he built for > himself next to Coilach. > > If you are interested in a photo of the house I'll > send you one. > > Thank you for replying to my email > > Cathy > > On 8/1/07 11:20 AM, "Glenda Mason" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Cathy, > > Do you have a photo of the old cottage? > > What is the name of the local researcher who lived > > nearby. > > Happy and healthy new year to you. > > > > Glenda > > > > > > --- Cathy Dowie <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Hi everyone > >> > >> Happy New Year. > >> > >> My family lived in the above cottage said to be > "the > >> oldest cottage still > >> inhabited" near Loch Lomond according to a local > >> researcher who lived > >> nearby. > >> > >> My family lived there at least from 1824 when the > >> first child of George and > >> Agnes Macfarlan was born, until 1888 upon the > death > >> of s daughter who never > >> married. > >> > >> How do I obtain information about the cottage and > >> who owned or leased it? It > >> is mentioned in the inventory of possessions > taken > >> from the last Macfarlane > >> chief before he left for America. > >> > >> George was a wood oversee, possibly for the Duke > of > >> Argyll? > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Cathy > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email > >> to [email protected] > with > >> the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > >> subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > Thoir aire/Take care > > Glenda Mason D.Urr > > Global Commissioner for Australasia > > The International Clan MacFarlane Society Inc > > [email protected] > > Help build the Clan MacFarlane Heritage Centre and > Museum of Highland Life > > please visit > http://www.macfarlane.org/claymore.htm > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > [email protected] with > the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > Thoir aire/Take care Glenda Mason D.Urr Global Commissioner for Australasia The International Clan MacFarlane Society Inc [email protected] Help build the Clan MacFarlane Heritage Centre and Museum of Highland Life please visit http://www.macfarlane.org/claymore.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Sue Checking when Jean was born your tree shows October 1867, yet they sailed in May? Could they have broken the journey? One of my relatives going to Australia had to travel to London for the ship, just a thought that they may have gone to NI to join a ship and circumstances of Jean's birth may have altered them and they later travelled from Glasgow. The timeline is a bit confusing. Best Wishes Ava Connelly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUNB] bonhill In a message dated 1/7/2007 12:19:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Do you have any basis for your suggestion they might have been sent to Ireland as a punishment or for other reasons. Hi Janet. Below is the tree that was still in Scotland before emigrating to the states they sailed from Glasgow to New York in May of 1867. In Census records Jean lists her birth place as Ireland. I have the Documents for all the other prior siblings from the GRO Just tossing out a line to see why Jean is in Ireland prior to Sailing to America. Trying to determine the family path in time frame of 1829-1867 Descendants of William Brown 2nd 1 [1] William Brown 2nd 1829 - 1892 b: 1829 in Alexandria, Dunbarton, Scotland d: 16-February-1892 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey Census: 03-June-1880 Silk Printer/listed as trade in 1880, Fed.census Fact 2: 06-June-1856 residence of Alexandria, occup. a Printer from Fact 3: marriage record extract from Scotland GRO. . +Janet MacDonald 1834 - 1857 b: 1834 in Scotland d: 24-November-1857 in Bridgeton,Glasgow,Scotland m: 06-June-1856 in Bonhill, Dumbarton, Scotland Father: John McDonald Mother: Elizabeth McKinlay ........... 2 William Brown 3rd 1857 - 1939 b: 06-May-1857 in 62 Rumsford St. Bridgeton Dist., Burgh of Glascow, Scotland d: 22-January-1939 in 2103 Clarkson Ave, Germantown, Philadelphia Co., Pa. ............... +Fannie Miers Vreeland 1857 - 1932 b: 23-November-1857 d: 01-December-1932 in 2103 Clarkson Ave, Germantown, Philadelphia Co., Pa. m: 19-May-1881 in Paterson, New Jersey Father: Abraham E. Vreeland Mother: Mary Gawn *2nd Wife of [1] William Brown 2nd: . +Euphemia Brown 1835 - 1895 b: 03-December-1835 in Parish of Denny, County of Stirling, Scotland d: 08-April-1895 in Paterson, New Jersey m: 03-June-1859 in 63 Tobago Street, District of Calton, Burgh of Glascow, Scotland Father: John Brown Mother: Isabella Forsyth ........... 2 Isabella Forsyth Brown 1861 - 1926 b: 09-January-1861 in Alexandria, Bonhill Parish, Dunbarton, Scotland d: 27-June-1926 in St. Lukes Hospital, New York City Census: 03-June-1880 listed as a silk weaver 1880 Federal census ............... +Thomas Wallace Bentley 1861 - 1932 b: 07-February-1861 in Bradford, Yorkshire, England d: 26-October-1932 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey m: 14-March-1881 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey Father: John Bentley Mother: Harriet Hargreaves Census: Abt. April-1861 Horton Twp.,City of Bradford,Municipal ward Little Horton,Yorkshire Co., England ........... 2 Annie Peacock Brown 1862 - 1936 b: 24-October-1862 in Susannah St., Alexandria Bonhill, Dunbartonshire, Scotland d: 11-July-1936 in Paterson, New Jersey ............... +Richard Burch Dilworth 1846 - 1921 b: 03-January-1846 in Oxford, Pennsylvania d: 13-April-1921 in Newton Sussex Co., New Jersey m: 14-April-1908 in Newton, Sussex Co., New Jersey Father: Richard Burch Dilworth Mother: Harriett Wilson Census: Bet. 1885 - 1889 Territorial Census Records Vashon Island,Kings Co., Washington ........... 2 Daniel Brown 1864 - 1948 b: 01-May-1864 in Susannah St., Alexandria, Bonhill Parish, Dunbarton, Scotland/Alexandria, Scotland d: 05-February-1948 in Green Castle, Pennsylvania Census: 03-June-1880 lists trade as silk printer/1880 Federal census Fact 2: 09-May-1864 Entered to the Register of Births # 108 Fact 3: May 1, 1864 at 5:20 in the evening. ............... +Margaret 1863 - b: April-1863 in Scotland ........... 2 Jean Brown 1867 - 1937 b: October-1867 in Northern Ireland d: 07-May-1937 in Paterson, New Jersey ............... +Alexander MacKendrick 1863 - 1931 b: 26-May-1863 in Elderslie, District of Abbey (Landward), County of Renfrew, Scotland d: 28-October-1931 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey m: 10-April-1889 in Paterson, New Jersey Father: Archibald MacKendrick Mother: Annie Taylor Robertson ........... 2 Euphemia Beverage Brown 1870 - 1931 b: 13-October-1870 in Little Falls, Passaic Co., NewJersey d: 30-March-1931 in Sacred Heart Hospital, Allentown, Pennsylvania ............... +Judson B. Brink 1879 - 1965 b: 28-September-1879 d: October-1965 in Allentown,Lehigh Co., Pennsylvania m: 16-November-1899 ........... 2 John Brown 1873 - 1942 b: 21-November-1873 in Paterson, Passaic Co., NewJersey d: 27-October-1942 in Shamokin, Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania Census: 03-June-1880 #178/Pg.13/sup dist.83/enum. dist.158 Fact 2: Paterson, Passaic Co., 1880 fed census age 6 ............... +Isabelle Mae Leckie 1871 - 1956 b: 02-September-1871 in Troy, Rennseler Co., New York d: 17-March-1956 in Shamokin, Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania m: 04-October-1899 in Jersey City, Hudson Co., New Jersey Father: John A. Leckie Mother: Susie Borden ........... 2 Mary Lee Brown 1877 - 1909 b: 1877 in Paterson, Passaic Co., NewJersey d: 26-March-1909 in Cos Cob, Conn. ............... +Archibald R. Paton m: 15-December-1898 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey ........... 2 Margaret Marshall Brown 1879 - 1947 b: Abt. October-1879 in Paterson, Passaic Co., NewJersey d: 04-May-1947 in Germantown Hospital, Penn & Chester Sts. Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA.19144 Keith W Brown Indianapolis IN http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/o/Keith-W-Brown ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 06/01/2007 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1045 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com

Hi Janet Do you know where in Ireland your Chester family lived? What occupation did your "Irish" Chester have? Have you considered he may have been in the military? My Jones family lived in Northern Ireland, my gg grandfather's records (b1838) show his father was a soldier. Although he wasn't himself in the military he was a coachman and lived at one point in a house which showed up in searches on the internet as being the residence of various High Sheriffs of Carrickfergus (address info from his son's birth certtificate), one of these being Bruce or Bryce of Stirling. Best Wishes Ava Connelly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Janet Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland Hi Ava, Many thanks for your interest in replying to my earlier post. My CHESTER family were firmly in Cumbernauld and Kirkintilloch from 1836 until 1915 when my father was born. The time I am researching is in Edward CHESTER who married Elizabeth PARK both of whom were apparently born in Ireland, respectively 1811 and 1822 and before them Edward CHESTER who married Mary DUNCAN who were both born in Ireland about 1780. We don't know why except it might be possible that they might have been in service with a family there. I really would like to know what nationality they really were. Janet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 06/01/2007 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1045 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com

Hello Janet, I have received information from the poor law registers from Paisley Library on one of my names. They called their registers Statement of Cases. I received a mine of information. Why not try Dunbarton Local History or the Reference Library. Glenda --- [email protected] wrote: > How can I obtain a Poor Relief Application. After > reading all the email > about Poor Relief applications, I now wonder if that > is why I cannot find any > further record or information on one of my ancestors > who lived in Dunbartonshire. > > Janet > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > Thoir aire/Take care Glenda Mason D.Urr Global Commissioner for Australasia The International Clan MacFarlane Society Inc [email protected] Help build the Clan MacFarlane Heritage Centre and Museum of Highland Life please visit http://www.macfarlane.org/claymore.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Frank Do you have Hugh McGunigal's poor relief application? There isn't always a record, for instance the man I mentioned before did return to Scotland, dying in Merryflats Poorhouse in 1906, but in the hospital part, so no record of that admission, except for mention on death register. Further to him being sent to Ireland "Settlement Ireland", his wife, born of Scottish parents, in Glasgow, was given his settlement and also sent to Ireland about a month later, when she made an application. I'm hoping to be visiting the Mitchell in the next few weeks and could have a look just in case either Sarah Coyle or Mary McGu(o)nigal applied for assistance, as I've found happened in my family after the death of the husband/father. At one point while I was searching for Poor Relief info, I found a study which indicated that many Irish who should have been given aid were wrongly sent back to the parish of their birth. The criteria was I believe that a person who had been employed for a number of years in the parish should be afforded Poor Relief, but this seemed to have been largely ignored by some of the "Authorities". Of course can't remember where that was now, but if I find it I'll pass it on. Best Wishes Ava Connelly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of frank mcgonigal Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland Hi Ava I've heard about that happening,but this is the first instance that I've come across that is documented,although there are probably many more. My gr.gr.grandfather Hugh McGunigal,born Ireland abt1816,died in the Glasgow Poor House in 1863. His wife Sarah Coyle,born abt 1816,seems to have disappeared after that event,although I've had various people searching for her in Scotland,as well as my own attempts to find her. Their son born 1838,and his family,went to USA in 1874,but she wasn't with him,a daughter Mary born 1837 also disappeared,and efforts to trace her have been unsuccessful. Maybe I should be looking to Ireland for them !. Thanks Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "AC" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland > Hi Janet > > Sorry I missed the beginning of this thread, so hope I am not covering > something already done, or in the wrong timeframe here. > > This may not be the reason your Chester line were in Ireland, but in 1892 > my > g-grandmother's brother, who was born in Ireland, although he had lived in > Scotland since at least age 10, (moving here with his parents between > 1867-1876), was sent to Ireland when he found himself in ill-health and > destitute. > > His application for Poor Relief resulted in him being sent to Ireland > within > a month, this was common practice I believe. The reason being that the > parish (in his case Glasgow Parish), did not accept responsibility for his > medical and financial aid during the period of his need, and handed it > over > to the Poor-Law Parish of his birth. > > > Best Wishes > Ava Connelly ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 06/01/2007 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1045 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com

Hi Ava, Many thanks for your interest in replying to my earlier post. My CHESTER family were firmly in Cumbernauld and Kirkintilloch from 1836 until 1915 when my father was born. The time I am researching is in Edward CHESTER who married Elizabeth PARK both of whom were apparently born in Ireland, respectively 1811 and 1822 and before them Edward CHESTER who married Mary DUNCAN who were both born in Ireland about 1780. We don't know why except it might be possible that they might have been in service with a family there. I really would like to know what nationality they really were. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "AC" <[email protected]> > Hi Janet > > Sorry I missed the beginning of this thread, so hope I am not covering > something already done, or in the wrong timeframe here. > > This may not be the reason your Chester line were in Ireland, but in 1892 my > g-grandmother's brother, who was born in Ireland, although he had lived in > Scotland since at least age 10, (moving here with his parents between > 1867-1876), was sent to Ireland when he found himself in ill-health and > destitute. > > His application for Poor Relief resulted in him being sent to Ireland within > a month, this was common practice I believe. The reason being that the > parish (in his case Glasgow Parish), did not accept responsibility for his > medical and financial aid during the period of his need, and handed it over > to the Poor-Law Parish of his birth.

Hi Janet Sorry I missed the beginning of this thread, so hope I am not covering something already done, or in the wrong timeframe here. This may not be the reason your Chester line were in Ireland, but in 1892 my g-grandmother's brother, who was born in Ireland, although he had lived in Scotland since at least age 10, (moving here with his parents between 1867-1876), was sent to Ireland when he found himself in ill-health and destitute. His application for Poor Relief resulted in him being sent to Ireland within a month, this was common practice I believe. The reason being that the parish (in his case Glasgow Parish), did not accept responsibility for his medical and financial aid during the period of his need, and handed it over to the Poor-Law Parish of his birth. I have another family however, who appear to have maintained links to Ireland, and from the time of the famine when my branch moved to Scotland, until my granny's generation, (which I remember in my lifetime), made regular visits to family and friends in Ireland, bringing back butter, bacon, soda bread, goat's cheese, - among other things that my granny missed from home, having grown up there after her father's death in the Influenza Pandemic in 1918. Sad to say in a few generations the links have been lost, but hope springs eternal. Good luck with your research, hope you find the answer, and that this helps a little. Best Wishes Ava Connelly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Janet Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 5:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUNB] bonhill Do you have any basis for your suggestion they might have been sent to Ireland as a punishment or for other reasons. I found that my father's CHESTER line were in Ireland and I am absolutely stumped as to why, other than they originated there. I know they couldn't have. The name is English, a City there as most of us know, but I do need to track them back there. You've made an interesting comment. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> > > Janet > Thanks for the additional web sites. Now saved to my favorites. My BROWN > line was employed as calico block printers. > The next question is open to anyone. > Is there a repository of company employment records for the various textile > firms available for searching, > My other question were these trades sent to Northern Ireland to start > factories there? Or as punishment for tax reasons. > Thanks for reading ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 06/01/2007 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1045 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com

Hi Ava Yes I have Hughs Poor Relief Application,and also his Death Cert.,which stated that he was married,but didn't give his parents names. I paid Des Garrity to check for Hugh and Sarah,but not for Mary,I only learned of her and brother John recently from a ( Believe it or not) Mary McGonigal in Glasgow,she found both Hugh and Sarahs childrens Baptisms ...Mary b.1837,and John b. 1838...in National Archives in Edinburgh. I even have a record of Hughs army service fom Kew,but he took sick after only 18 Mths and wasn't pensioned. The only thing I really found out was that he said he was from Derry in the Poor Appl.,and Londonderry in the army records. I know they're both the same,just depends on your religious persuasion. Thanks for the offer a a look up at the Mitchell,you probably won't find Sarah,but you may find Mary,but please don't spend too much time on this. Thanks Frank .. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "AC" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland > Hi Frank > > Do you have Hugh McGunigal's poor relief application? There isn't always > a > record, for instance the man I mentioned before did return to Scotland, > dying in Merryflats Poorhouse in 1906, but in the hospital part, so no > record of that admission, except for mention on death register. > > Further to him being sent to Ireland "Settlement Ireland", his wife, born > of > Scottish parents, in Glasgow, was given his settlement and also sent to > Ireland about a month later, when she made an application. > > I'm hoping to be visiting the Mitchell in the next few weeks and could > have > a look just in case either Sarah Coyle or Mary McGu(o)nigal applied for > assistance, as I've found happened in my family after the death of the > husband/father. > > At one point while I was searching for Poor Relief info, I found a study > which indicated that many Irish who should have been given aid were > wrongly > sent back to the parish of their birth. The criteria was I believe that a > person who had been employed for a number of years in the parish should be > afforded Poor Relief, but this seemed to have been largely ignored by some > of the "Authorities". Of course can't remember where that was now, but if > I > find it I'll pass it on. > > Best Wishes > Ava Connelly > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of frank > mcgonigal > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUNB] Sent to Ireland > > > Hi Ava > I've heard about that happening,but this is the first instance that I've > come across that is documented,although there are probably many more. > > My gr.gr.grandfather Hugh McGunigal,born Ireland abt1816,died in the > Glasgow > > Poor House in 1863. > > His wife Sarah Coyle,born abt 1816,seems to have disappeared after that > event,although I've had various people searching for her in Scotland,as > well > > as my own attempts to find her. > > Their son born 1838,and his family,went to USA in 1874,but she wasn't with > him,a daughter Mary born 1837 also disappeared,and efforts to trace her > have > > been unsuccessful. > > Maybe I should be looking to Ireland for them !. > > Thanks > Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada. >

In a message dated 1/7/2007 12:19:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Do you have any basis for your suggestion they might have been sent to Ireland as a punishment or for other reasons. Hi Janet. Below is the tree that was still in Scotland before emigrating to the states they sailed from Glasgow to New York in May of 1867. In Census records Jean lists her birth place as Ireland. I have the Documents for all the other prior siblings from the GRO Just tossing out a line to see why Jean is in Ireland prior to Sailing to America. Trying to determine the family path in time frame of 1829-1867 Descendants of William Brown 2nd 1 [1] William Brown 2nd 1829 - 1892 b: 1829 in Alexandria, Dunbarton, Scotland d: 16-February-1892 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey Census: 03-June-1880 Silk Printer/listed as trade in 1880, Fed.census Fact 2: 06-June-1856 residence of Alexandria, occup. a Printer from Fact 3: marriage record extract from Scotland GRO. . +Janet MacDonald 1834 - 1857 b: 1834 in Scotland d: 24-November-1857 in Bridgeton,Glasgow,Scotland m: 06-June-1856 in Bonhill, Dumbarton, Scotland Father: John McDonald Mother: Elizabeth McKinlay ........... 2 William Brown 3rd 1857 - 1939 b: 06-May-1857 in 62 Rumsford St. Bridgeton Dist., Burgh of Glascow, Scotland d: 22-January-1939 in 2103 Clarkson Ave, Germantown, Philadelphia Co., Pa. ............... +Fannie Miers Vreeland 1857 - 1932 b: 23-November-1857 d: 01-December-1932 in 2103 Clarkson Ave, Germantown, Philadelphia Co., Pa. m: 19-May-1881 in Paterson, New Jersey Father: Abraham E. Vreeland Mother: Mary Gawn *2nd Wife of [1] William Brown 2nd: . +Euphemia Brown 1835 - 1895 b: 03-December-1835 in Parish of Denny, County of Stirling, Scotland d: 08-April-1895 in Paterson, New Jersey m: 03-June-1859 in 63 Tobago Street, District of Calton, Burgh of Glascow, Scotland Father: John Brown Mother: Isabella Forsyth ........... 2 Isabella Forsyth Brown 1861 - 1926 b: 09-January-1861 in Alexandria, Bonhill Parish, Dunbarton, Scotland d: 27-June-1926 in St. Lukes Hospital, New York City Census: 03-June-1880 listed as a silk weaver 1880 Federal census ............... +Thomas Wallace Bentley 1861 - 1932 b: 07-February-1861 in Bradford, Yorkshire, England d: 26-October-1932 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey m: 14-March-1881 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey Father: John Bentley Mother: Harriet Hargreaves Census: Abt. April-1861 Horton Twp.,City of Bradford,Municipal ward Little Horton,Yorkshire Co., England ........... 2 Annie Peacock Brown 1862 - 1936 b: 24-October-1862 in Susannah St., Alexandria Bonhill, Dunbartonshire, Scotland d: 11-July-1936 in Paterson, New Jersey ............... +Richard Burch Dilworth 1846 - 1921 b: 03-January-1846 in Oxford, Pennsylvania d: 13-April-1921 in Newton Sussex Co., New Jersey m: 14-April-1908 in Newton, Sussex Co., New Jersey Father: Richard Burch Dilworth Mother: Harriett Wilson Census: Bet. 1885 - 1889 Territorial Census Records Vashon Island,Kings Co., Washington ........... 2 Daniel Brown 1864 - 1948 b: 01-May-1864 in Susannah St., Alexandria, Bonhill Parish, Dunbarton, Scotland/Alexandria, Scotland d: 05-February-1948 in Green Castle, Pennsylvania Census: 03-June-1880 lists trade as silk printer/1880 Federal census Fact 2: 09-May-1864 Entered to the Register of Births # 108 Fact 3: May 1, 1864 at 5:20 in the evening. ............... +Margaret 1863 - b: April-1863 in Scotland ........... 2 Jean Brown 1867 - 1937 b: October-1867 in Northern Ireland d: 07-May-1937 in Paterson, New Jersey ............... +Alexander MacKendrick 1863 - 1931 b: 26-May-1863 in Elderslie, District of Abbey (Landward), County of Renfrew, Scotland d: 28-October-1931 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey m: 10-April-1889 in Paterson, New Jersey Father: Archibald MacKendrick Mother: Annie Taylor Robertson ........... 2 Euphemia Beverage Brown 1870 - 1931 b: 13-October-1870 in Little Falls, Passaic Co., NewJersey d: 30-March-1931 in Sacred Heart Hospital, Allentown, Pennsylvania ............... +Judson B. Brink 1879 - 1965 b: 28-September-1879 d: October-1965 in Allentown,Lehigh Co., Pennsylvania m: 16-November-1899 ........... 2 John Brown 1873 - 1942 b: 21-November-1873 in Paterson, Passaic Co., NewJersey d: 27-October-1942 in Shamokin, Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania Census: 03-June-1880 #178/Pg.13/sup dist.83/enum. dist.158 Fact 2: Paterson, Passaic Co., 1880 fed census age 6 ............... +Isabelle Mae Leckie 1871 - 1956 b: 02-September-1871 in Troy, Rennseler Co., New York d: 17-March-1956 in Shamokin, Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania m: 04-October-1899 in Jersey City, Hudson Co., New Jersey Father: John A. Leckie Mother: Susie Borden ........... 2 Mary Lee Brown 1877 - 1909 b: 1877 in Paterson, Passaic Co., NewJersey d: 26-March-1909 in Cos Cob, Conn. ............... +Archibald R. Paton m: 15-December-1898 in Paterson, Passaic Co., New Jersey ........... 2 Margaret Marshall Brown 1879 - 1947 b: Abt. October-1879 in Paterson, Passaic Co., NewJersey d: 04-May-1947 in Germantown Hospital, Penn & Chester Sts. Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA.19144 Keith W Brown Indianapolis IN http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/o/Keith-W-Brown