This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BruceDunbar78 Surnames: DUNBAR Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1205/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There was a book, "Births 1590-1930 from Newport Common Burial Ground" by Alden G. Beaman. He copied info from gravestones and created a grid system of the cemetery. Does anyone have this book or know where I can see a copy? Does anyone know the phone number of the cemetery? I am researching DUNBARs in Rhode Island, specifically the family of George Dunbar (dd 1754) and think he may have been buried there. Some of the Dunbars are buried in BF 00526, BF 00527 and BF 00528. Perhaps I might visit the plots but wouldn't know where to find them. Any ideas? Thanking anyone in advance, Brus Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

There is an office on the Warner St. entrance to this cemetery. They have a list of everyone buried there. Ron -----Original Message----- From: dunbar-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dunbar-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 9:02 PM To: dunbar-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [DUNBAR] Common Burial Ground, Farwell St., Newport, RI This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BruceDunbar78 Surnames: DUNBAR Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1205/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There was a book, "Births 1590-1930 from Newport Common Burial Ground" by Alden G. Beaman. He copied info from gravestones and created a grid system of the cemetery. Does anyone have this book or know where I can see a copy? Does anyone know the phone number of the cemetery? I am researching DUNBARs in Rhode Island, specifically the family of George Dunbar (dd 1754) and think he may have been buried there. Some of the Dunbars are buried in BF 00526, BF 00527 and BF 00528. Perhaps I might visit the plots but wouldn't know where to find them. Any ideas? Thanking anyone in advance, Brus Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUNBAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, Any address information? Even the country would help. Pat Dunbar On 10/11/2011 08:01, dunbar-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Message: 1 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:55:35 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com"<gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DUNBAR] Michael Dunbar To:<dunbar-l@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:<1320885668.752677@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Johnday510 Surnames: Dunbar Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1204/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for a Michael Dunbar. He was born abt. 1940. His father's name was Ray Dunbar and his mother's name was Hazel. If anyone has this individual in their family trees, please notify me. I am his first cousin and he is the only male Dunbar in my family tree. Thanks, Mary Erickson End of DUNBAR Digest, Vol 6, Issue 53 ************************************* Patrick R. L. Dunbar * Organiser, Dunbar Family Society www.dunbarfamilysociety.org.uk (world-wide Dunbar research) * *www.debbiedunbar.net (Art pages)*

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Johnday510 Surnames: Dunbar Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1204/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for a Michael Dunbar. He was born abt. 1940. His father's name was Ray Dunbar and his mother's name was Hazel. If anyone has this individual in their family trees, please notify me. I am his first cousin and he is the only male Dunbar in my family tree. Thanks, Mary Erickson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DDUNLOP1205 Surnames: Dunbar, Howe Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1202.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, I have seen this information. One correction, Joseph Howe was born c1720, not 1748. 1748 is the date given for his marriage, not his birth. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DebraNowell Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1202.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Nelda, The Dunbar DNA Project doesn't have anyone from this family tested yet. We do have one gal who submitted the same pedigree as you. Her name is Nancy van Morkhoven and her email is [nanday at sbcglobal.net] We have her pedigree posted hoping someone will connect and be able to test. You'll find her in the "Not tested" area listed as S-18. http://www.dunbardna.org/wfpatriarchs.htm This info came from another source. I don't know who Alberta Dunbar is but the source said this info came from her notes: "Eleanor Dunbar was born around 1730 probably in Scotland. She married Joseph Howe born around 1748 in Boston MA. Her parents were John Dunbar, born c1701 died 174? and Mary Anderson. John died in VA their son John son 1 Ann McBride 2 Sarah Chilten. Daughters: Anne married James Cahoon, Eleanor m. Joseph Howe, Martha married 1. William Claypole 2. John Jackson, Margaret married James Claypole." This info didn't go back any further. Does any of that look familiar? Debra Dunbar Nowell Dunbar Project Admin www.DunbarDNA.org Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: N_Percival Surnames: Dunbar, Howe, Dorrell, Cupp, Gilpin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1203/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Anyone out there direct descendant of Robert Dunbar and Jean Gray? Y-DNA would help prove a direct descentant of this couple and FF/RF (autosomal testing) could help us who descend from their daughter Ellenor. Although, you have to make sure you have no other shared ancestor. AND most important - NOT FINDING A MEASURABLE SEGMENT does not mean not related just not measurable but a measurable segment could lock us into a genetric relationship. any one tested yet? nelda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: N_Percival Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1202.3.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Robert, I descend: Joseph William /Howe/ b.1720 - Warwickshire, England m. Eleanor (Ellen, Dnbr-1a) /Dunbar/ b. 1730, Boston, Mass John William (How-1) /Howe/ b. ? Hampshire, VA m. Mary Ann /Waggoneer/ b. VA Joseph /Howe/ b. 12 Sep 1783 -Mason, Co., KY/Montgomery, VA m. Rachael/Hood/ b. 1786 - KY William M. (Billy) /Howe/ b. 23 Mar 1814 - KY m. Nancy/Dorrell/ Agnes Jane /Howe/ b. 28 Dec 1841 - Chariton Co., MO m. Francis Marion Cupp Martha Jane Cupp m. John Thomas Gilpin Ernest T. Gilpin m. Nellie Bonstein Nelda L. Gilpin (Percival) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: N_Percival Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1202.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Robert, I descend: Joseph William /Howe/ b.1720 - Warwickshire, England m. Eleanor (Ellen, Dnbr-1a) /Dunbar/ b. 1730, Boston, Mass John William (How-1) /Howe/ b. ? Hampshire, VA m. Mary Ann /Waggoneer/ b. VA Joseph /Howe/ b. 12 Sep 1783 -Mason, Co., KY/Montgomery, VA m. Rachael/Hood/ b. 1786 - KY William M. (Billy) /Howe/ b. 23 Mar 1814 - KY m. Nancy/Dorrell/ Agnes Jane /Howe/ b. 28 Dec 1841 - Chariton Co., MO m. Francis Marion Cupp Martha Jane Cupp m. John Thomas Gilpin Ernest T. Gilpin m. Nellie Bonstein Nelda L. Gilpin (Percival) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: N_Percival Surnames: Dunbar, Howe Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1202.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Pat, I have no documentation as stated in my post. This is what I am looking for. nelda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DDUNLOP1205 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1202.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I also am descended from Eleanor Dunbar and her husband Joseph Howe through their daughter Elizabeth who married James Hoge. I have spent lots of time and energy on the Dunbar ancestors of this family without much success. I am including a summary of what I know (or think I know). Maybe someone out there can connect and help us all out. Any and all corrections, additions, discussion, etc. will be greatly appreciated, either through this message board or e-mail. Darrell Dunlop darrelldunlop@yahoo.com ANCESTRY OF ELEANOR DUNBAR I have had very little success in determining the ancestry of Eleanor Dunbar, wife of Joseph Howe of Montgomery (now Palaski) County, VA. Here is what I have discovered. Many researchers list her father as John Dunbar, the Jacobite rebel, who was captured at Preston, England and transported to Virginia on the "Elizabeth and Anne" in 1716. He may have been her father, but I have found no evidence. We do know, from the records of Augusta Co., VA, and from the journal of the young surveyor, George Washington, that a John Dunbar was a neighbor of Joseph Howe in what is now Hardy Co., WV. This may be the reason for the assumption that John was the father of Eleanor. We do know, from the will of Ann (Dunbar) Cahoon, written in 1798 in Hardy County, VA (now West Virginia), that Eleanor had a brother named John, who wrote his will in 1794 in Greenbrier Co., VA (now WV). This may have been the John Dunbar who was Joseph Howe's neighbor. There were many John Dunbars in Scotland. Some researchers say the John Dunbar who was born on 1 Jun 1701 in Brechin, Scotland to Robert Dunbar and Jean Gray (Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950), was the Jacobite rebel. Again, this may be true but I know of no evidence. John Dunbar, the Jacobite, had an interesting history. According to "Passenger Lists for 10 Immigrant Ships in 1716" found in the US GenWeb Archives, he lived in Wick, Scotland and was imprisoned in Wigan, England. Before being transported, he wrote to "his friend" the Laird of Grange in Scotland. Although he was supposed to be indentured in VA, he was in Newport, RI by 1717, when his brother, James, wrote to the Laird of Grange that John had arrived there. John was thereafter engaged on trading voyages along the coast of America. (Scottish Emigration to Colonial America 1607-1785, by David Dobson). "Directory of Scottish Settlers in North America 1625-1825," by Dobson, refers to him as a merchant skipper and says he was in Newport in 1719 and 1720. Dobson writes that he had brothers named David, James, and Simon; and that he latter settled in Virginia and Massachusetts. In January of 1760 there was a ship, "St. George of Montrose" at Charleston, SC, with John Dunbar! as master. (Ships from Scotland to America 1628-1828,) again by Dobson. "Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s to 1900s" as found on ancestry.com, indicates that Simon was in Newport by c1748. "The Original Scots Colonists of Early America 1612-1783" (still again by Dobson) calls Simon Dunbar a mariner who settled, by 1748, in Newport, RI and Charleston, SC, and gives his father as John Dunbar of Burgie, which means that John Dunbar, the Jacobite rebel, was also the son of John of Burgie. Burgie is near Forres (about 25 miles east of Inverness) and about 2 miles from Grange Hall, the seat of the Laird of Grange. Howe family tradition, as found in "The Family of Hoge" by Governor James Hoge Tyler, and in "Listen to the Mockingbird" by Daniel Dunbar Howe, says that Joseph Howe and Eleanor Dunbar met on the ship from England to Boston and that they married near there shortly after arrival, which is given as c1748. This is the same year that Simon Dunbar appeared in Newport, RI. Did they all come on the same ship? Was Simon Eleanor's brother, or father? So many questions, so few answers Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sally_Wilkins Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1176.1.1.4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't, honestly, not for anyone who's more than 3 or 4 generations removed. I do try to confirm with multiple sources, and you learn after a while which sources to be suspicious of* and which ones are probably reliable. * and by "suspicious" I don't mean that they are necessarily wrong, just that they may contain unverified information and I should double-check. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Johnday510 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1176.1.1.4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I agree. I'm still trucking and discovering. I'm still using ancestry.com, but it is difficult to trust now and who has the time to write for every birth certificate. WOW! But, I'm hanging in there. Mary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sally_Wilkins Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1176.1.1.4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Mary - One of the strengths of ancestry.com is also a great weakness, which is that the system allows/encourages all us amateur genealogy buffs to upload our family trees, and share them with one another - and in fact, it will send along those little hints when someone in your tree looks like a match up with someone in someone else's tree. I had a huge breakthrough once because of one of those "maybe matches" - opened up an approach I had no previous knowledge of, let me contact another researcher, eventually enabled me to access documentation and confirm a whole lot of relatives - brothers and sisters back in the old country of an immigrant family of which I knew only 2 brothers and a sister - and I was able to fill in for the other researcher what had become of those 3 after they left. BUT - the same system allows people to upload and share and re-share their errors. . . . like the ever-recurring Robert-Ninian link. So far, at least, those uploaded family-trees are not being scan! ned/monitored for errors - and I cannot imagine what kind of algorithm could be developed to do that, even if people wanted it done. The other huge thing that makes the ancestry subscription worth the money is the vast number of scanned documents that are available. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Johnday510 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1176.1.1.4.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: When I referred to the collection of names/surnames for the Doomsday book, I was just trying to let someone know that I understood the idea of name assumption. I did not apply it to the world. However, I did compare it to the assumption of names by freed slaves in America. If you want to read the comments, fine. But don't read into them. I felt that someone was treating me as ignorant of the concept. I was trying to show them that I understood the comment. "Sir Robert Dunbar" has or has not been proven to be a Dunbar? Many people still trace their origins through his line. Previously, I paid no attention to other lines. I only focused on mine. Mine was the only one that mattered to me. I did not rely on other trees. I used the hints from ancestry.com. I thought I could trust them. I was taken back when I found out I could not. No one seemed to understand that if "Sir Robert's" dilemma had been know for a while, why does ancestry.com keep using him--he must be a Dunbar or others could not trace their genealogy through him. I reacted to something that made me angry due to frustration. I have spent months and many hours a day to trace this for my family and myself. Then I am surprised to read a message that implies that "Sir Robert" might not be who others have made him out to be. If he is not a Dunbar, who is he. That would be our true ancestry line. When I had my students make family crests, I tried to get the children of divorce to understand that they are still related to the estranged parent. They wanted to identify with the step-parent. I tried to explain to them that the blood that ran through their veins belonged to the biological parent, not the step-parent. I did not do this to discourage children from loving and identifying with the step parent, but to help them understand what they will be passing down from generation to generation. Names make little difference. Why are you so small? Why are you so tall? Where did you get your blue/brown eyes? Where did you get your nose? These little things are what geneolgy is all about. One is athletically inclined, one is artistically inclined, one is an academic. Genealogy will sometimes answere the question. It's not necessarily in the name. It's in the blood. We live in a society of assumed names. I know that and understand it very well. My response was due to what I felt to be a genealogical let down--disappointment--confusion. After depending on someone to lead me in the right direction, spend money and a huge amount of time--I felt let down. I will not explain myself to everyone from this point on. My comments made no world change, no life change, they did not threaten the stability of social trends. They did not threaten anyone's genealogy--or did they. They were just words of frustration. Don't make them out to be more than they were. Mary Dunbar Erickson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Johnday510 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1176.1.1.4.1.1.2.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Great to hear from another voice! I know now that I depended on Ancestry.com too much. I have contacted Kansas, but I have received no reply of any kind. I have also tried Montana--no reply. My next step is to communicate with Canada. My dad's side of the family is a dead end in three generations. I just can't let that go. You're right, I'm going to do this a little more on self-reliance. Thanks for the input. Greatly appreciated. Mary Dunbar Erickson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Johnday510 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1176.1.1.4.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am not worried about who I am related to. In fact, it does not really matter. So many generations have gone past that I really don't see a major connection. As people we are often created by the opportunities available and the environment we live in. My mother was a classy lady and her father, John was a remarkable man. He was a natural leader and a natural athlete. They were both nice looking and intelligent. What else can you ask for. "They are my family. Not these names on the commputer. I was surprised at every new discovery and it was fun. I had expected more of ancestry.com. You pay them to help. I do know, however, that they use us to keep track of us. I am no sure why they are so committed to keeping track of the human race, but it that rings their bell--so be it. I am in the process of creating a new tree. But it is really hard to keep the Massachusetts people out of it. Thanks again for your kind words and help. Mary Dunbar Erickson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: patthepiper Surnames: DUNBAR Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1202.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Nelda, I would be interested in your source for the parents of John DUNBAR for it might help me make earlier connections. On file I have a 6 generation lineage of 85 people, descendants of John DUNBAR & Mary ANDERSON. Email me directly at [dunbar@one-name.org]and I will send a copy. Please bear in mind remarks made by others on the list regarding caution using data from the internet. I always point out that any information I have should be used only as a guide for further research. Regarding DNA testing, view the web site Dunbar DNA Project and put your question to them. Pat Dunbar Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: N_Percival Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1202.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: lol... much appropriated. how funny ... promise I'll connect your name to the research and not appropriate it. Just be grateful! Nelda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: N_Percival Surnames: Dunbar, Gray, Anderson, Gilpin, Percival Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.dunbar/1202/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, With all the research I've done on other branches of my family, I have no idea where I am here. this is what I think, no documentation.. any help? much appropriated. Robert Dunbar marries Jean Gray has son: John Dunbar b. 1701 -Brechin Parish, Scotland marries Mary Anderson - no data their daughter: Eleanor Dunbar b. 1730 Boston Mass. marries Joseph William Howe b. 1720 Warwickshire, England dies 1790 Sunnyside, Pulaski Co., VA So does anyone connect to this lineage and if so can you help connect this family to?? who ever.. has this Dunbar lineage been Y-dna tested? what were the y results? thank you Nelda Percival Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.