Hi Anita, You asked, <snip> If any one can offer a reason as to why the other seven cannot be located I would be interested to know why, could it be the others were listed as being born in Mochrum and there are no surviving OPR records to show them? <snip> When looking for birth / baptism records prior to 1855, the answer is often because the parents didn’t bother having some or all of their children recorded in the OPRs. It wasn’t compulsory to register births until 1855, when civil registration commenced. Sometimes, it happens that there is a baptism recorded in an OPR, but that record has not been extracted into the IGI. The IGI covers most OPR records, but it is not complete. The Mochrum Baptism Register, 1820 to 1854, is one which I have found to have lots of records not extracted to the IGI. In this case, it also applies to the OPR Index, and the “Scottish Church Records” CD. With this in mind, I had a ‘trawl’ thru the LDS film of that register, looking for your McNEILs. I found Isabella and Andrew had been registered. This is what I have transcribed: 1826. “Andrew McNeil weaver in Glentriplock and his wife Jane Lockart had a lawful daughter born and baptised the 14th July named Isabella” 1830. “Andrew Neil weaver in Glentriplock and his wife Jane Lockart had a lawful son born the 20th April and baptised the 2d May named Andrew” You also asked: <snip> Andrew McNEIL born c 1795 was said to be of Arryhassen. I know of an Airriehassen farm on the road to Whauphill. Could it be that he may have been born on this farm? if the family were workers or lodgers in a croft? <snip> It is certainly possible that your Andrew McNEIL was born in Arryhassen in 1795, but unless there’s a baptism record in the Kirkinner OPR, I don’t know that you’ll ever be able to prove it. (I didn’t get time to check that register.) I doubt that he owned Airyhassen, (as it is spelt on today’s maps), when he died in 1863, although the term “of Arryhassen” implies that he owned it. He was more likely to have been a tenant, in which case the term “in Arryhassen” would be the correct term. Not that it proves very much, but it is interesting that Airyhassen is only a mile from Glentriplock. Regards, Bruce p.s. I'm posting this also to the WIG list. - - - - - original - - - - - Hi List Thought it was time I listed my interests McNEIL Andrew b c1795 Kirkinner, died 10 Feb 1863, Port William (Father John McNeil) married 11 Jun 1815 Penninghame, Wig to Jane/Jean LOCKHART, died 5 Sep 1885 Port William(Father John LOCKHART). This couple though having died in Port William are buried in St Ninians Old Kirkyard. Could anyone explain why they would be buried there instead of a local church yard? I have only been able to locate one christening of their eight children and that is one of their daughters Helen Rutledge McNEIL chr 17 Aug 1817 Penninghame, this is taken from the IGI. If any one can offer a reason as to why the other seven cannot be located I would be interested to know why, could it be the others were listed as being born in Mochrum and there are no surviving OPR records to show them? John McNEIL b c1821, Anthony McNEIL b c1819 died 26 Jul 1839, James McNEIL b c1823, Isabella Brown McNEIL b c1827 died 21 Jan 1914, Andrew McNEIL b c1831, William McNEIL b c1833 and Rubina McNEIL b c1835. John McNeil is known to have married Annie FRAZER formerly BUTCHER ( Father: John BUTCHER, Mother: Agnes McGUFFIE) on 7 Oct 1849. James McNEIL went on to marry Grace WALLACE about 1844 William McNEIL went on to marry Lavina LAY on 20 Jan 1859. Any information on any of the other siblings would be gratefully received. I have census details of the family through 1841, 1851 and 1881 and but some of them just seem to have disappeared. GRIFFIN Annie b1854 Glasserton, Wig (Father: William GRIFFIN Mother Helen McCARTNEY) married on 12 Dec 1884 Port William to John McNEIL b 16 Dec 1852 Glasserton, Wig. They had five children the only chr I am unable to locate is that of their son Alexander born c1885. Listed in the 1891 census as being 6yrs old born Mochrum and in the 1901 census aged 16yr also born Mochrum. Any help with Alexander McNeil would be appreciated. Grace McNEIL b3 Oct 1888 Port William married 11 Jul 1913 Great Hamilton St, Glasgow to Alexander McCUTCHEON. Elizabeth Ann McNeil b10 Aug 1895 Port William married 4 Jun 1915 to Andrew McCREDIE (Father Robert McCREDIE Mother Grace McADAM) Could anyone advice on how to find further information on families in the late 1700s. Andrew McNEIL born c 1795 was said to be of Arryhassen. I know of an Airriehassen farm on the road to Whauphill. Could it be that he may have been born on this farm? if the family were workers or lodgers in a croft? I have asked a lot of questions here and I hope that someone can help out or point me in the right direction. Thank you for your time and sorry for the cross posting Anita McNeil