I dont think you can assume that. This looks like the date of the kirk session hearing, at which they will have been told off and maybe been told to pay a fine. The reference doesnt seem to say *which* kirk session either. If this was a non Church of Scotland church thats another reason not to find a marriage in the OPR. They should have had the banns called in the parish church, but maybe they didnt bother or maybe those records are lost. there are lots of variables and the only answer is to try and get a photocopy of the kirk session minutes you have found. Judy ---------- >From: "Mike Calder" <mikecalder@optusnet.com.au> >To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [D-G LIST] Irregular Marriage >Date: 10, Fri Sep, 2004, 1:10 pm > > As there is no record of a marriage in the OPR, although their children > were subsequently baptised, would I be correct in assuming that they > were actually married on this date - presumably after some sort of > penance?