Hi List, I was very interested to read Vol. 4, No.223, with the description by Ron Bgrd848@cs.com about conditions in Scotland in the 1600's and after. pretty grim stuff! Does anyone have an idea of what conditions were like in Dumfires and surrounding rural area in the early part of 19th Century ? Thanks. Pat Researching GLOVER and HAINING in Dfs and Kkd _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail