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    1. Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 6 year gap
    2. Gordon Johnson
    3. Doug said: > Perhaps you can clarify something that has puzzled me for sometime: > > I have two marriage entries for William Blackstock and Mary Graham in > different parishes but 6 years apart. I'm reasonably sure that both entries > refer to the same couple. The first, recorded in the Stirling parish > register in 1806 reads: > > William Blackstock, priv. Capt Hamilton's Co. R. L. Militia and Mary Graham > of this par. > > The 2nd, in 1812 in the Dumfries parish register reads: > > William Blackstock and Mary Graham 2 > > I presume the '2' in the latter record may mean that it was the 2nd time the > banns had been called. > > I've always assumed that the reason for the 6 year gap in the two records is > that William was serving in the Militia and that they may have postponed > their marriage until he returned to civilian life. > > Is this a likely explanation? > > Regards > Doug Blackstock ** This is a tricky one. There are several possible answers: 1. These may be two different couple who happened to have the same names (I had an example where both couples were in the same parish around the same time, which made the baptismal register look crazy!). You have to find something to prove one way or the other whether they were the same couple. 2. Assuming they are the same couple, they might have had their banns called in Stirling, but he was sent off elswhere before they could seal the knot. Then when he was more settled, he sent for her and they married in Dumfries. 3. They MAY have married in Stirling, but for some reason the validity of the claimed marriage was challenged at Dumfries,(perhaps the entry at Stirling did not make it clear that the marriage had gone ahead) and so they went through a marriage ceremony there to make everyone happy. You will note that neither entry explicit states that they were married on a specific date. This is common with church registers. 4. There may be another answer that I haven't brought to mind! Gordon.

    11/19/2008 12:44:50
    1. Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 6 year gap
    2. Anton Mcloughlin
    3. HI Guys There is another possbilitiy If the Stirling entry is a Banns entry and the marriage was abroad with a Military curate....then on their return they were unable to prove the marriage when entering the new parish where their history was not known and nobody could vouch for them...then the minister could, if he was strict, require them to have another ceremony. regards Anton -------- Original Message -------- > Doug said: > >> Perhaps you can clarify something that has puzzled me for sometime: >> >> I have two marriage entries for William Blackstock and Mary Graham in >> different parishes but 6 years apart. I'm reasonably sure that both entries >> refer to the same couple. The first, recorded in the Stirling parish >> register in 1806 reads: >> >> William Blackstock, priv. Capt Hamilton's Co. R. L. Militia and Mary Graham >> of this par. >> >> The 2nd, in 1812 in the Dumfries parish register reads: >> >> William Blackstock and Mary Graham 2 >> >> I presume the '2' in the latter record may mean that it was the 2nd time the >> banns had been called. >> >> I've always assumed that the reason for the 6 year gap in the two records is >> that William was serving in the Militia and that they may have postponed >> their marriage until he returned to civilian life. >> >> Is this a likely explanation? >> >> Regards >> Doug Blackstock >> > > ** This is a tricky one. There are several possible answers: > 1. These may be two different couple who happened to have the same names > (I had an example where both couples were in the same parish around the > same time, which made the baptismal register look crazy!). You have to > find something to prove one way or the other whether they were the same > couple. > 2. Assuming they are the same couple, they might have had their banns > called in Stirling, but he was sent off elswhere before they could seal > the knot. Then when he was more settled, he sent for her and they > married in Dumfries. > 3. They MAY have married in Stirling, but for some reason the validity > of the claimed marriage was challenged at Dumfries,(perhaps the entry at > Stirling did not make it clear that the marriage had gone ahead) and so > they went through a marriage ceremony there to make everyone happy. > You will note that neither entry explicit states that they were married > on a specific date. This is common with church registers. > 4. There may be another answer that I haven't brought to mind! > Gordon. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.11300 > http://www.pctools.com/uk/internet-security/ > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11300 http://www.pctools.com/uk/internet-security/

    12/09/2008 03:06:00
    1. Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 6 year gap
    2. Doug Blackstock
    3. Many thanks to both Gordon and Anton for their useful feedback. Cheers Doug Blackstock On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:44 AM, Gordon Johnson <gordon@kinhelp.co.uk>wrote: > > Doug said: > > Perhaps you can clarify something that has puzzled me for sometime: > > > > I have two marriage entries for William Blackstock and Mary Graham in > > different parishes but 6 years apart. I'm reasonably sure that both > entries > > refer to the same couple. The first, recorded in the Stirling parish > > register in 1806 reads: > > > > William Blackstock, priv. Capt Hamilton's Co. R. L. Militia and Mary > Graham > > of this par. > > > > The 2nd, in 1812 in the Dumfries parish register reads: > > > > William Blackstock and Mary Graham 2 > > > > I presume the '2' in the latter record may mean that it was the 2nd time > the > > banns had been called. > > > > I've always assumed that the reason for the 6 year gap in the two records > is > > that William was serving in the Militia and that they may have postponed > > their marriage until he returned to civilian life. > > > > Is this a likely explanation? > > > > Regards > > Doug Blackstock > > ** This is a tricky one. There are several possible answers: > 1. These may be two different couple who happened to have the same names > (I had an example where both couples were in the same parish around the > same time, which made the baptismal register look crazy!). You have to > find something to prove one way or the other whether they were the same > couple. > 2. Assuming they are the same couple, they might have had their banns > called in Stirling, but he was sent off elswhere before they could seal > the knot. Then when he was more settled, he sent for her and they > married in Dumfries. > 3. They MAY have married in Stirling, but for some reason the validity > of the claimed marriage was challenged at Dumfries,(perhaps the entry at > Stirling did not make it clear that the marriage had gone ahead) and so > they went through a marriage ceremony there to make everyone happy. > You will note that neither entry explicit states that they were married > on a specific date. This is common with church registers. > 4. There may be another answer that I haven't brought to mind! > Gordon. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/10/2008 04:33:19