There is a birth record in the index on Scotlandspeople for an Alexander Panton Douglas b in 1857. If you go to that site you can pay to view and download the registration. Parish of Urquhart in Moray, sometimes referred to as Elgin. Here are some census indexing from Ancestry: 1861 Scotland Census Name: James Douglas Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1818 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Jessie Gender: Male Where born: Dallas, Moray Registration Number: 144 Registration district: Urquhart Civil parish: Urquhart County: Moray Address: Private House Occupation: Flesher ED: 1 Household schedule number: 44 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1861_20 Household Members: Name Age James Douglas 43 Jessie Douglas 38 Jane Douglas 9 John Douglas 7 Henry Douglas 6 Joanna Douglas 5 Alexander Douglas 4 James Douglas 2 Jessie Douglas 1 Source Citation: Parish: Urquhart; ED: 1; Page: 8; Line: 1; Roll CSSCT1861_20; Year: 1861. There is an extracted marriage record in the IGI for James Douglas and Jessie Panton in 1851 in parish of Urquhart County of Moray on the FamilySearch website. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/ You could also get this record from the OPR images on Scotlandspeople. 1871 Scotland census Name: James Douglas Age: 53 Estimated birth year: abt 1818 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Jessie Gender: Male Where born: Dallas, Elginshire Registration Number: 144 Registration district: Urquhart Civil parish: Urquhart County: Moray Address: Urquhart Occupation: Flesher ED: 1 Household schedule number: 44 Line: 22 Roll: CSSCT1871_26 Household Members: Name Age James Douglas 53 Jessie Douglas 48 Johanna Douglas 15 Jessie Douglas 11 Ann Douglas 9 Mary Douglas 7 Source Citation: Parish: Urquhart; ED: 1; Page: 7; Line: 22; Roll CSSCT1871_26; Year: 1871. As the family gets old enough to work, they seem to spread out to other counties. It looks like Henry went to Fife, Johanna to Glasgow, Lanark. There's an Alex in Edinburgh in 1881 that might be yours. 1881 Scotland Census Name: Alexander Douglas Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relationship: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Elgin Registration Number: 685/5 Registration district: Newington Civil parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts County: Midlothian Address: 29 Richmond Place Occupation: Gardiner ED: 10 Household schedule number: 64 Line: 9 Roll: cssct1881_291 Household Members: Name Age Robert Nicholson Ryder 59 Jessie Ryder 49 James Nicholson 5 Donald Macleod 30 John Gunn 27 Alexander Douglas 25 Source Citation: Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts; ED: 10; Page: 11; Line: 9; Roll cssct1881_291; Year: 1881. Good luck with your research Joanna > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 06:39:50 +0200 > From: Trysie Joubert <wilmavzyl@gmail.com> > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Alexander Panton DOUGLAS > To: cornwall-to-nz-d-request@rootsweb.com > Cc: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY@rootsweb.com, shi-to-nz-d- > request@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTikYko_beoDN2z51Y8No4Tc8o6QACcIl7TimMe1K@mail.gmail > .com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello Listers > > Please help me with the ancestors or any information of: > > *Alexander Panton DOUGLAS - * I believe his ancestors are from the Black > Douglas clan, Scotland and that he has Jewish ancestors too > > married on 1 Nov 1887 at Saddle Hill Park, East Taieri, Otago New Zealand, > according to the Otago Witness Newspaper: > > Tomasina Ross JAFFRAY (her dad is named Wm Jaffray in the Otago Newspaper > message) > > > Their son: James Henry DOUGLAS born 7 Dec 1892 New Zealand died 29 March > 1951 New Zealand married to Myrtle Ursula Irene ROSVEARE born 7 May 1895 > New > Zealand died 1 Oct 1963 New Zealand - no parents information for Myrtle > available > > Thank You > > Trysie Joubert > South African