I believe that this is a single source, if not single lineage, surname. Supposed to have originated near Kircudbright, as I remember. My great grandmother was a Cauthers, which is a rare variant of this name. Presbyterians from the Belfast area to Montreal before 1824. Occasionally reverted to Carruthers. That family daughtered out, but I did look into Carruthers DNA, and most of it corresponds to just two Y DNA haplotypes. Which is pretty remarkable, and consistent with a single lineage surname. I've an idea that both are Norse I1, though not sure on that. Carruthers were boarder reivers, and a sept of Clan Bruce. I know that some who took the form Cauthers went through Glasgow on their way toward points west (which included Ireland). I'm sure that some Carruthers were exported to Ireland in the 16th century with other border reivers. Though I can see that yours were in Kircudbright considerably later than that. Mine could have been in Kirkcudbright area in 1715 for all I know - they'd not have been drawn toward Glasgow before the industrial revolution. I have John Cauthers, a blacksmith, died in Montreal before 1829 as that's when his widow died, married Rosannah Patterson, born about 1771, died 1829 in Montreal. For a time evidently even Protestant churches in Montreal called teh wife by her maiden name in records. Patterson was a Galloway surname, which means they could conceivably have married in Scotland. They had two children; Samuel Cauthers, b about 1802 allegedly in Belfast, and, likely but not necessarily, a daughter named Ellen. Samuel was also a blacksmith, and he married in 1824 in Montreal. They were tight with (consistently worked for for three generations) a family of industrialists from the Belfast area who founded the Montreal Unitarian church, and belonged to a progressive sort of Presbyterian congregation near Belfast. Dora ----- Original Message ----- From: "RTS Friction - Carruthers" <[email protected]> To: "Helen Vaillancourt" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:56 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] CARRUTHERS from Kirkbudbright area > Hi Helen > > There are not many Benjamin's in the Dumfriesshire Carruthers family. > I've a Janet KERR x Christopher Carruthers b aft.1715 & > another Janet Lorimer KERR abt 1841- 1877 Kirkbride, Keir x James McCUBBIN > 1840-1917 > none married to a Benjamin. > > Rgds > Ian C > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helen Vaillancourt" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:54 AM > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] CARRUTHERS from Kirkbudbright area > > >> Would be interested in hearing from anyone researching the family of >> Benjamin Carruthers( bc1801 to Thomas Carruthers and Janet Kerr) and wife >> Margaret Jardine( born 1808-1811 in Kirkmichael to John Jardine and Anne >> Patterson. )While I have the names of their 8 children from several >> census, >> baptism proofs are few..either they didn't have their children baptised >> in >> the Church of Scotland or they didn't have them baptised at all. The >> family >> had moved to Ontario Canada by 1860. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message