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    1. [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia
    2. Maisie Egger
    3. Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia Thank you for the link, Malcolm (on the Wigtown list). What caught my particular attention was the following: """In 1873 the Edwin Fox became an immigrant ship. She was chartered to the Shaw Savill & Company to carry immigrants from England to New Zealand as part of the assisted migration scheme started by New Zealand Prime Minister Sir Julius Vogel. She made four voyages between 1873 and 1876, carrying a total of 751 passengers....""" I used to wonder how so many "ordinary" people early on could afford to emigrate as I remember as a teen in the 1940s-1950 hardly ever being able to afford a "day through" to Edinburgh from Glasgow 40 miles away! This one little passage clears it up. I had thought assisted passages, the £10 scheme to Australia, was a more recent programme, but apparently not. I wonder how much such assisted passages cost to go to New Zealand in 1873, as an example. For more on the post-war (WWII, i.e.) Australian assisted passage programme go to these links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Pound_Poms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-war_immigration_to_Australia Maisie ------------------------------- Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:05 AM Subject: RE: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia Hi Ailsa and Maisie, Here is a link wth the history of The Edwin Fox. It did carry convicts to Western Australia in the 1850s and later switched to the New Zealand route with immigrants. http://www.theprow.org.nz/The-Edwin-Fox/ Malcolm ------------------------------- From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia Hi Maisie, Interesting video, but I am not sure Chris Paton's information is correct. He says the Edwin Fox was built about 150 years ago (therefore c1861) and brought convicts to New Zealand. I don't think New Zealand received convicts. However if NZ did take convicts, I would have expected transportation to have stopped by 1861. Can anyone enlighten me? Ailsa ----------------------------- Maisie Egger <[email protected]> wrote: ...It should be of great interest to those whose forebears were deemed social problems and were shipped off to Australia. The ship is actually in dry dock in New Zealand. I hope they get plenty of funding to refurbish this ship as a floating historical museum.... Maisie

    12/11/2011 02:47:56
    1. Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia
    2. Vanessa Dixon
    3. I have a member of my tree who travelled to Australia in 1880 on an assisted passage aboard the Windsor Castle. I was led to believe that if you had a skill that was required in Australia the government paid your passage, with my family member he was an agricultural worker.   Vanessa  All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ ________________________________ From: Maisie Egger <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 11 December 2011, 17:47 Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia Thank you for the link, Malcolm (on the Wigtown list). What caught my particular attention was the following: """In 1873 the Edwin Fox became an immigrant ship. She was chartered to the Shaw Savill & Company to carry immigrants from England to New Zealand as part of the assisted migration scheme started by New Zealand Prime Minister Sir Julius Vogel. She made four voyages between 1873 and 1876, carrying a total of 751 passengers....""" I used to wonder how so many "ordinary" people early on could afford to emigrate as I remember as a teen in the 1940s-1950 hardly ever being able to afford a "day through" to Edinburgh from Glasgow 40 miles away!  This one little passage clears it up.  I had thought assisted passages, the £10 scheme to Australia, was a more recent programme, but apparently not.  I wonder how much such assisted passages cost to go to New Zealand in 1873, as an example. For more on the post-war (WWII, i.e.) Australian assisted passage programme go to these links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Pound_Poms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-war_immigration_to_Australia Maisie -------------------------------   Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:05 AM   Subject: RE: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia   Hi Ailsa and Maisie,   Here is a link wth the history of The Edwin Fox. It did carry convicts to Western Australia in the 1850s and later switched to the New Zealand route with immigrants. http://www.theprow.org.nz/The-Edwin-Fox/   Malcolm   -------------------------------    From: [email protected]    Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia   Hi Maisie,   Interesting video, but I am not sure Chris Paton's information is correct. He says the Edwin Fox was built about 150 years ago (therefore c1861) and brought convicts to New Zealand.   I don't think New Zealand received convicts. However if NZ did take convicts, I would have expected transportation to have stopped by 1861.   Can anyone enlighten me?   Ailsa    -----------------------------     Maisie Egger <[email protected]> wrote:     ...It should be of great interest to those whose forebears were deemed     social problems and were shipped off to Australia. The ship is actually     in dry dock in New Zealand. I hope they get plenty of funding to     refurbish this ship as a floating historical museum....      Maisie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/11/2011 01:34:04