This is only tangentially related to genealogy but the thread is already there so I hope to get this in before the administrator ends it. As I understand the meaning of "yankee," in Mexico and further south, it means someone from the US. In the southern US, it means someone from the northern US. In the northern US it means someone from New England. In New England, it means someone from Maine. In Maine, it means someone who eats pie for breakfast. Genealogically, I have ancestors from the southern colonies of North America as well as from New England, though none from Maine. Nevertheless, I will eat pie for breakfast when there is any. Joe Johnston Dodge City ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 12:39 PM Subject: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 57 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 (Robin) > 2. Re: Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 (Cliff. Johnston) > 3. Re: Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 (Rod Wilson) > 4. fwd operation overlord (Margaret) > 5. Scotch (Margaret) > 6. Re: Fw: Canucks (Leona D. Taylor) > 7. Fw: D-Day/Operation Overlord (Maisie Egger) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:28:15 -0400 > From: Robin <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all > Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. > > Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she just > referring to New Englanders? > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. > Johnston > Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM > To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not many in > Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this term in the > U.S. > is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being influenced > by > its neighbor to the south (mostly). > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see," >>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people consider > it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver > approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:35:01 -0500 > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > To: "'Robin'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am certain that you will find many here in Texas who would be absolutely > revolted at being called "Yanks". You may want to come down here and try > it > yourself ;-) Or in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, the > Carolinas, > etc.. We are proud to be Americans, but Yankees? NO! > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see," >>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all > Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. > > Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she just > referring to New Englanders? > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. > Johnston > Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM > To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not many in > Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this term in the > U.S. > is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being influenced > by > its neighbor to the south (mostly). > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see," >>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people consider > it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver > approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:43:25 -0600 > From: "Rod Wilson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > To: "Robin" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Re: Crazy Canucks, I know first hand that at least some US troops in > Afghanistan refer to our Canadian troops there as the Crazy Canucks, > whether > Princess Pats or Van Doos. And the usage quite emphatically is not > derogatory! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:28 AM > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > >> I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all >> Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. >> >> Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she >> just >> referring to New Englanders? >> >> Robin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. >> Johnston >> Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM >> To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June >> 1944 >> >> Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not many >> in >> Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this term in the >> U.S. >> is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being influenced >> by >> its neighbor to the south (mostly). >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> "May the best you've ever seen, >> Be the worst you'll ever see," >>>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith >> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June >> 1944 >> >> Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people >> consider >> it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver >> approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. >> >> the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >> the >> message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:58:53 -0400 > From: Margaret <[email protected]> > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] fwd operation overlord > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > RE Canuck > > Canuck is the name of a hockey team and a comic strip. I have lived in > the States and have never heard of Canadians referred to as "Canucks". > Ca'jun's is the term used for the French settlers of Louisiana. Canuck > is not in usage except, perhaps, on Wikepedia.... > > Margaret Cameron > Long Sault > Ontario > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:39:31 -0400 > From: Margaret <[email protected]> > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Scotch > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Mr. Kenneth Galbraith, a very famous economist, wrote a book named, "The > Scotch". Nineteenth century literature referred to the Highland clans as > "Scotch" [or, Irish/Erse]. The "Scotch Irish" from Ulster settled in > the southrrn States. Highland emigrants of the /eighteenth /nineteenth > century referred to themselvs as "Scotch". Perhaps, the "Scottish" > academes should take note. Maybe the drink was named for the people. > > Margaret Cameron > Long Sault > Ontario > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:55:42 -0700 > From: "Leona D. Taylor" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Canucks > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > This is a quote from a letter written by my father, Allan Taylor, to my > mother, Grace, dated Nov 2, 1944. > > "They have a son who is in the R.A.F. who was over in Canada and they > tell me the Canadians treated him very well while he was there, so now > they feel that they owe us Canucks some hospitality." > > Dad was raised on the Prairies and obviously didn't feel that Canuck was > a derisive term. > > But more importantly I seem to have missed the point about what this > discussion has to do with genealogy. > > Leona Taylor > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:39:29 -0700 > From: "Maisie Egger" <[email protected]> > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: D-Day/Operation Overlord > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > Lordy! Lordy! Whit a stramash ower the use o' Yank or Canuck in the > posting about D-Day/Operation Overlord! > > Allow me as an ancient to try to throw some light on the usage of the > terms Yank and Canuck which seem to have "wraxed" or generated much > discourse from the original message I posted about D-Day---Operation > Overlord...completely overlooking the content of the posting! > > Relying on Google we learn that "the Yanks are coming, the Yanks are > coming, the Yanks are coming over there" is from "Over There" a 1917 song > popular with United States soldiers in both world wars. It was written by > George M. Cohan during World War I. "Cohan later recalled that the words > and music to the song came to him while travelling by train from New > Rochelle to New York shortly after the U.S. had declared war against > Germany in April 1917." (Note: Nothing to do with the American Civil > War!) > This song, as well as "It's a Long Way to Tipperary", were popular > patriotic songs during the First World War. On June 29, 1936, President > Franklin D. Roosevelt awarded Cohan the Congressional Gold Medal for this > and other songs. " > > The word Yank then became the coin of the realm, so to speak, for an > American. > > More: > > "The meaning of Yankee has varied over time. In the 18th century, it > referred to residents of New England descended from the original English > settlers of the region. (Mark Twain, in the following century, used the > word in this sense in his novel A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's > Court, published in 1889.) As early as the 1770s, British people applied > the term to any person from what became the United States. In the 19th > century, Americans in the southern United States employed the word in > reference to Americans from the northern United States (though not to > recent immigrants from Europe; thus a visitor to Richmond, Virginia, in > 1818 commented, "The enterprising people are mostly strangers; Scots, > Irish, and especially New England men, or Yankees, as they are called"). > > Outside the United States, Yankee is slang for anyone from the United > States. The truncated form Yank is especially popular among Britons, and > may sometimes be considered offensive or disapproving." > > As a young lass during WWII, we would refer to the American soldiers > bunked in Glasgow as Yanks, and Canadians were oftentimes referred to as > Canucks, with no thought that either was offensive. Yes, we interchanged > Canadian and Canuck to mean a Canadian in general or a French Canadian. > It was in the context of how each was used that told the tale. > > Thesaurus: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms > Noun 1. Canuck - informal term for Canadians in general and French > Canadians in particular > French Canadian - a Canadian descended from early French settlers and > whose native language is French. > > Plus: > > ...at DePaul University... professor and linguist Craig Sirles opines: > > "I think --- Canuck --- comes from Iroquoians' term meaning 'from the > village,' Canata and Uk," said Sireles. "And that simply collapsed into > Canook or Canuck." > > Incidentally, my husband is a N.Y. Yank(ee), but he is simply referred to > as an American! I lived in Ontario, Canada for well over a year, but I > can't recall Canadians using Canuck as a nickname to refer to themselves. > Again, during WWII, oftentimes Canadians would be referred to > affectionately as Canucks. > > Usage changes, and now one no longer refers to someone from Scotland as > "Scotch." That word went out of favour, I suppose, when "Scotch" became > the country's greatest export...so a person was not inclined to go through > life labelled "Scotch," and so, not to be infra dig, Scotch is now to be > Scottish or a Scot when referring to a human. Ahem! Some people from > across the Cheviots still refer to us as the "Barbarians from the North!" > ??? > > Maisie > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 57 > ************************************************ >

Well put, and spoken like a true Johnston when it comes to the pie :-) Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see," >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Johnston Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 1:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Operation Overlord, "Yankee," etc. This is only tangentially related to genealogy but the thread is already there so I hope to get this in before the administrator ends it. As I understand the meaning of "yankee," in Mexico and further south, it means someone from the US. In the southern US, it means someone from the northern US. In the northern US it means someone from New England. In New England, it means someone from Maine. In Maine, it means someone who eats pie for breakfast. Genealogically, I have ancestors from the southern colonies of North America as well as from New England, though none from Maine. Nevertheless, I will eat pie for breakfast when there is any. Joe Johnston Dodge City ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 12:39 PM Subject: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 57 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 (Robin) > 2. Re: Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 (Cliff. Johnston) > 3. Re: Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 (Rod Wilson) > 4. fwd operation overlord (Margaret) > 5. Scotch (Margaret) > 6. Re: Fw: Canucks (Leona D. Taylor) > 7. Fw: D-Day/Operation Overlord (Maisie Egger) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:28:15 -0400 > From: Robin <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all > Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. > > Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she > just referring to New Englanders? > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. > Johnston > Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM > To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not > many in Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this > term in the U.S. > is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being > influenced by its neighbor to the south (mostly). > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see," >>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people > consider it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of > Vancouver approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:35:01 -0500 > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > To: "'Robin'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am certain that you will find many here in Texas who would be absolutely > revolted at being called "Yanks". You may want to come down here and try > it > yourself ;-) Or in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, the > Carolinas, > etc.. We are proud to be Americans, but Yankees? NO! > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see," >>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all > Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. > > Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she just > referring to New Englanders? > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. > Johnston > Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM > To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not many in > Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this term in the > U.S. > is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being influenced > by > its neighbor to the south (mostly). > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see," >>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people consider > it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver > approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:43:25 -0600 > From: "Rod Wilson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > To: "Robin" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Re: Crazy Canucks, I know first hand that at least some US troops in > Afghanistan refer to our Canadian troops there as the Crazy Canucks, > whether > Princess Pats or Van Doos. And the usage quite emphatically is not > derogatory! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:28 AM > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > >> I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all >> Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. >> >> Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she >> just >> referring to New Englanders? >> >> Robin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. >> Johnston >> Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM >> To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June >> 1944 >> >> Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not many >> in >> Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this term in the >> U.S. >> is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being influenced >> by >> its neighbor to the south (mostly). >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> "May the best you've ever seen, >> Be the worst you'll ever see," >>>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith >> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June >> 1944 >> >> Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people >> consider >> it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver >> approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. >> >> the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >> the >> message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:58:53 -0400 > From: Margaret <[email protected]> > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] fwd operation overlord > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > RE Canuck > > Canuck is the name of a hockey team and a comic strip. I have lived in > the States and have never heard of Canadians referred to as "Canucks". > Ca'jun's is the term used for the French settlers of Louisiana. Canuck > is not in usage except, perhaps, on Wikepedia.... > > Margaret Cameron > Long Sault > Ontario > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:39:31 -0400 > From: Margaret <[email protected]> > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Scotch > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Mr. Kenneth Galbraith, a very famous economist, wrote a book named, "The > Scotch". Nineteenth century literature referred to the Highland clans as > "Scotch" [or, Irish/Erse]. The "Scotch Irish" from Ulster settled in > the southrrn States. Highland emigrants of the /eighteenth /nineteenth > century referred to themselvs as "Scotch". Perhaps, the "Scottish" > academes should take note. Maybe the drink was named for the people. > > Margaret Cameron > Long Sault > Ontario > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:55:42 -0700 > From: "Leona D. Taylor" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Canucks > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > This is a quote from a letter written by my father, Allan Taylor, to my > mother, Grace, dated Nov 2, 1944. > > "They have a son who is in the R.A.F. who was over in Canada and they > tell me the Canadians treated him very well while he was there, so now > they feel that they owe us Canucks some hospitality." > > Dad was raised on the Prairies and obviously didn't feel that Canuck was > a derisive term. > > But more importantly I seem to have missed the point about what this > discussion has to do with genealogy. > > Leona Taylor > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:39:29 -0700 > From: "Maisie Egger" <[email protected]> > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: D-Day/Operation Overlord > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > Lordy! Lordy! Whit a stramash ower the use o' Yank or Canuck in the > posting about D-Day/Operation Overlord! > > Allow me as an ancient to try to throw some light on the usage of the > terms Yank and Canuck which seem to have "wraxed" or generated much > discourse from the original message I posted about D-Day---Operation > Overlord...completely overlooking the content of the posting! > > Relying on Google we learn that "the Yanks are coming, the Yanks are > coming, the Yanks are coming over there" is from "Over There" a 1917 song > popular with United States soldiers in both world wars. It was written by > George M. Cohan during World War I. "Cohan later recalled that the words > and music to the song came to him while travelling by train from New > Rochelle to New York shortly after the U.S. had declared war against > Germany in April 1917." (Note: Nothing to do with the American Civil > War!) > This song, as well as "It's a Long Way to Tipperary", were popular > patriotic songs during the First World War. On June 29, 1936, President > Franklin D. Roosevelt awarded Cohan the Congressional Gold Medal for this > and other songs. " > > The word Yank then became the coin of the realm, so to speak, for an > American. > > More: > > "The meaning of Yankee has varied over time. In the 18th century, it > referred to residents of New England descended from the original English > settlers of the region. (Mark Twain, in the following century, used the > word in this sense in his novel A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's > Court, published in 1889.) As early as the 1770s, British people applied > the term to any person from what became the United States. In the 19th > century, Americans in the southern United States employed the word in > reference to Americans from the northern United States (though not to > recent immigrants from Europe; thus a visitor to Richmond, Virginia, in > 1818 commented, "The enterprising people are mostly strangers; Scots, > Irish, and especially New England men, or Yankees, as they are called"). > > Outside the United States, Yankee is slang for anyone from the United > States. The truncated form Yank is especially popular among Britons, and > may sometimes be considered offensive or disapproving." > > As a young lass during WWII, we would refer to the American soldiers > bunked in Glasgow as Yanks, and Canadians were oftentimes referred to as > Canucks, with no thought that either was offensive. Yes, we interchanged > Canadian and Canuck to mean a Canadian in general or a French Canadian. > It was in the context of how each was used that told the tale. > > Thesaurus: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms > Noun 1. Canuck - informal term for Canadians in general and French > Canadians in particular > French Canadian - a Canadian descended from early French settlers and > whose native language is French. > > Plus: > > ...at DePaul University... professor and linguist Craig Sirles opines: > > "I think --- Canuck --- comes from Iroquoians' term meaning 'from the > village,' Canata and Uk," said Sireles. "And that simply collapsed into > Canook or Canuck." > > Incidentally, my husband is a N.Y. Yank(ee), but he is simply referred to > as an American! I lived in Ontario, Canada for well over a year, but I > can't recall Canadians using Canuck as a nickname to refer to themselves. > Again, during WWII, oftentimes Canadians would be referred to > affectionately as Canucks. > > Usage changes, and now one no longer refers to someone from Scotland as > "Scotch." That word went out of favour, I suppose, when "Scotch" became > the country's greatest export...so a person was not inclined to go through > life labelled "Scotch," and so, not to be infra dig, Scotch is now to be > Scottish or a Scot when referring to a human. Ahem! Some people from > across the Cheviots still refer to us as the "Barbarians from the North!" > ??? > > Maisie > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 57 > ************************************************ > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message