It is also possible that it could have been probated in England. Sheila I Hale On 9/30/2011 3:42 PM, Vanessa Dixon wrote: > Thank you Ian, this also answers why I can't find a will for my 4xgreat grandfather. I think I will have to look at the local papers for lists of bankrupts at the time of Carlyle's letter, I didn't find him in the national newspapers of the time, hopefully the farmer will be named. As Carlyle says "Such a scoundrel ought to be hanged, the world should see his carcase swinging, have assurance that such a hound is no longer ranked among its population". > > Vanessa > > All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! > View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ > > > ________________________________ > From: Imchad Ancestry<[email protected]> > To: 'Vanessa Dixon'<[email protected]>; [email protected] > Sent: Friday, 30 September 2011, 22:26 > Subject: RE: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Missing will > > Hi Vanessa > > It was quite common for people to set up a Trust Deed, commonly known as a > "Trust Disposition and Settlement". This was a useful method of getting > round the law which, until 1868, prevented people from bequeathing land. > The practice carried on for many years after. Although some of these deeds > were recorded with testaments, many were not. They can usually be found in > the Register of Deeds, another series of court records. These have never > been indexed. They are a wonderful source of information, but can take a > lot of time to find what you are looking for. > > Best wishes > > Ian A McClumpha > > Researching Scottish Family History; please look at our website> > www.imchad.freeola.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vanessa Dixon > Sent: 30 September 2011 12:35 > To: [email protected]eb.com > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Missing will > > Is there any reason for a will to be missing on ScotlandsPeople. A member of > my tree was the aunt of the writer Thomas Carlyle's wife, Jane Welsh. In a > letter from Thomas Carlyle to his wife, he gives the the news that her aunt, > Mrs George Welsh, has lost all her money, the executor and trustee of her > uncle's will (a local farmer) had drawn money for his own use from the trust > and was now bankrupt, so all her aunts money had gone. George Welsh died at > Kirkbean in 1835 and no will is listed for him, I would have liked to have > known who this local farmer was. > > Vanessa > > All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst > scone! > View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sheila That is a possibility but if he owned any property in Scotland there would still be a Scottish record. There is a series known as 'Probate Resealed', although I think these are included in the on-line testaments. This is the only place that the word 'Probate' is used in Scotland. Scottish wills are confirmed, not probated. Best wishes Ian Researching Scottish Family History; please look at our website> www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sheila Hale Sent: 01 October 2011 01:28 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Missing will It is also possible that it could have been probated in England. Sheila I Hale On 9/30/2011 3:42 PM, Vanessa Dixon wrote: > Thank you Ian, this also answers why I can't find a will for my 4xgreat grandfather. I think I will have to look at the local papers for lists of bankrupts at the time of Carlyle's letter, I didn't find him in the national newspapers of the time, hopefully the farmer will be named. As Carlyle says "Such a scoundrel ought to be hanged, the world should see his carcase swinging, have assurance that such a hound is no longer ranked among its population". > > Vanessa > > All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! > View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ > > > ________________________________ > From: Imchad Ancestry<[email protected]> > To: 'Vanessa Dixon'<[email protected]>; > [email protected] > Sent: Friday, 30 September 2011, 22:26 > Subject: RE: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Missing will > > Hi Vanessa > > It was quite common for people to set up a Trust Deed, commonly known > as a "Trust Disposition and Settlement". This was a useful method of > getting round the law which, until 1868, prevented people from bequeathing land. > The practice carried on for many years after. Although some of these > deeds were recorded with testaments, many were not. They can usually > be found in the Register of Deeds, another series of court records. > These have never been indexed. They are a wonderful source of > information, but can take a lot of time to find what you are looking for. > > Best wishes > > Ian A McClumpha > > Researching Scottish Family History; please look at our website> > www.imchad.freeola.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vanessa > Dixon > Sent: 30 September 2011 12:35 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Missing will > > Is there any reason for a will to be missing on ScotlandsPeople. A > member of my tree was the aunt of the writer Thomas Carlyle's wife, > Jane Welsh. In a letter from Thomas Carlyle to his wife, he gives the > the news that her aunt, Mrs George Welsh, has lost all her money, the > executor and trustee of her uncle's will (a local farmer) had drawn > money for his own use from the trust and was now bankrupt, so all her > aunts money had gone. George Welsh died at Kirkbean in 1835 and no > will is listed for him, I would have liked to have known who this local farmer was. > > Vanessa > > All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea > thirst scone! > View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message