CHANGE MY ADDRESS 5-15-12 W.DONALD CRAWFORD [email protected] 704-739-7616 103 E. PIEDMONT AVE. KINGS MOUNTAIN NC 28086 W.DONALD CRAWFORD [email protected] 704-739-7616 103 E. PIEDMONT AVE. KINGS MOUNTAIN NC 28086 ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 3:01 AM Subject: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 7, Issue 53 Today's Topics:   1. Thorat, Lindsay (Irene Mitchell)   2. Re: Thorat, Lindsay ([email protected])   3. Re: Thorat, Lindsay (Irene Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:21:59 -0700 From: "Irene Mitchell" <[email protected]> Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Thorat, Lindsay To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1" Can anyone help?  Transcribers almost always have trouble with the surname Thurot or Thorat, which is in my ancestral line.  The particular Mary Ann Thurot or Thorat of this enquiry was born in Kirkbean parish, but lived most of her life in Dalbeattie.  She died at 166, High Street, Dalbeattie, on 24 January 1885, apparently a pauper and single.  Her age changes widely in every Census record!  Single or not, she appears to have had at least two children, the second of whom was a daughter named Mary Ann Lindsay, who appears with her in several Census records.  This daughter, Mary Ann Lindsay, is shown in the I.G.I. to have given birth (illegitimately) to Robert Calvert or Lindsay in 1854, followed by 6 sons after 1855, all with the surname Lindsay. Where I need help, is that the Ancestry version of the 1861 Census has made a poor job of transcribing the various surnames, and I've been trying to bring up this Census record on Scotlandspeople so that I can see for myself the actual image of the Census page.  Trouble is, that Scotlandspeople does not recognise any of these surnames below, and I've tried various combinations but don't seem to be getting anywhere.  Surely with all this information, I should be able to locate the page! The 1861 Source Citation: Parish: Dalbeattie; ED: 5; Page: 4; Line: 2; Roll: CSSCT1861_146. Mary Ann Thiret  Age:  69  Est. Birth Year:  abt 1792 : Head :  F  : b. Dalbeattie, Kirkcudbrightshire Registration No. 864  Reg. Dist.  Dalbeattie  Civil parish:  Dalbeattie  Town:  Dalbeattie  County:  Kirkcudbrightshire Address:  High Street    Occupation:  Formerly Dom (pauper) Servant ED:  5  Household schedule number:  25  Line:  2  Roll:  CSSCT1861_146 Mary Ann Thiret  69  [Surname may be Thurot or Thorat -- or even Thurret] Mary Ann Geadsay  23  daur c 1838  Dalbeattie [surname Lindsay - her age is 28 not 23] John Geadsay  9  grandson c 1852 Dalbeattie [Lindsay? - no birth record] Robert Calcut  7  grandson  c 1854, Dalbeattie [There is a birth record for Robert Calvert or Lindsay, 1854] James Ohara  2  grandson  c 1859, Dalbeattie  [IGI shows James Lindsay b. 1859] Any assistance would be really appreciated. Thanks, Irene ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:49:22 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Thorat, Lindsay To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi Irene I think you'll find her under THURIT. Regards Don Grant SCOON One Name Study (GoONS #5642) In a message dated 27/04/2012 23:26:57 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected]  writes: Can  anyone help?  Transcribers almost always have trouble with the  surname Thurot or Thorat, which is in my ancestral line.  The particular  Mary Ann Thurot or Thorat of this enquiry was born in Kirkbean parish, but  lived most of her life in Dalbeattie.  She died at 166, High Street,  Dalbeattie, on 24 January 1885, apparently a pauper and single.  Her age  changes widely in every Census record!  Single or not, she appears to  have had at least two children, the second of whom was a daughter named Mary  Ann Lindsay, who appears with her in several Census records.  This  daughter, Mary Ann Lindsay, is shown in the I.G.I. to have given birth  (illegitimately) to Robert Calvert or Lindsay in 1854, followed by 6 sons  after 1855, all with the surname Lindsay. Where I need help, is that  the Ancestry version of the 1861 Census has made a poor job of transcribing  the various surnames, and I've been trying to bring up this Census record on  Scotlandspeople so that I can see for myself the actual image of the Census  page.  Trouble is, that Scotlandspeople does not recognise any of these  surnames below, and I've tried various combinations but don't seem to be  getting anywhere.  Surely with all this information, I should be able to  locate the page! The 1861 Source Citation: Parish: Dalbeattie; ED: 5;  Page: 4; Line: 2; Roll: CSSCT1861_146. Mary Ann Thiret    Age:  69  Est. Birth Year:  abt 1792 : Head :  F  : b. Dalbeattie, Kirkcudbrightshire Registration No. 864  Reg.  Dist.  Dalbeattie  Civil parish:  Dalbeattie  Town:  Dalbeattie  County:  Kirkcudbrightshire Address:  High  Street    Occupation:  Formerly Dom (pauper)  Servant ED:  5  Household schedule number:  25  Line:  2  Roll:  CSSCT1861_146 Mary Ann Thiret  69  [Surname may be Thurot or Thorat -- or even Thurret] Mary Ann  Geadsay  23  daur c 1838  Dalbeattie [surname Lindsay - her age  is 28 not 23] John Geadsay  9  grandson c 1852 Dalbeattie  [Lindsay? - no birth record] Robert Calcut  7  grandson  c  1854, Dalbeattie [There is a birth record for Robert Calvert or Lindsay,  1854] James Ohara  2  grandson  c 1859,  Dalbeattie  [IGI shows James Lindsay b. 1859] Any assistance would  be really  appreciated. Thanks, Irene ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the  quotes in the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:03:38 -0700 From: "Irene Mitchell" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Thorat, Lindsay To: <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks a lot, Don.  I've now downloaded the Census from Scotlandspeople. Irene   ----- Original Message -----   From: [email protected]   To: [email protected]   Cc: [email protected]   Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 4:49 PM   Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Thorat, Lindsay   Hi Irene   I think you'll find her under THURIT.   Regards   Don Grant ------------------------------ To contact the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 7, Issue 53 ************************************************