Happy Holidays everyone, with wishes for a year of hope and change. And wishes that all your genealogy walls will be small and that you can break through and find those elusive answers. Happy Hogmanay! Jody On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Ewan Steed <genealogy@ancestryroots.co.uk>wrote: > > Wishing one and all a Very Happy Christmas and a "Guid" New Year in 2009. > > > Ewan > > -------------------------- > > Ayrshire On-Line a great source for Ayrshire Libraries: FHS: etc. > > www.ancestryroots.co.uk/ayrshire-onlineindex.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Jody Allen, Scottish Scribbles Blog http://scottishscribbles.blogspot.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Researching: Scotland: Wallace, Mctaggart, Clarke, Mckean(d), McCartney, Stewart Ireland: Lynch, Drought Wales: Williams, Walsh

The Renfrew list is going with Ho Ho Ho to everyone. Merry Christmas and Happy Hogmanay to all. Sandy (Tasmania) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ewan Steed" <genealogy@ancestryroots.co.uk> To: <dumfries-galloway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Christmas > > Wishing one and all a Very Happy Christmas and a "Guid" New Year in 2009. > > > Ewan > > -------------------------- > > Ayrshire On-Line a great source for Ayrshire Libraries: FHS: etc. > > www.ancestryroots.co.uk/ayrshire-onlineindex.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wishing one and all a Very Happy Christmas and a "Guid" New Year in 2009. Ewan -------------------------- Ayrshire On-Line a great source for Ayrshire Libraries: FHS: etc. www.ancestryroots.co.uk/ayrshire-onlineindex.htm

The first wife of George Maxwell b. 1826 was Ann STOTT (not Scott). The MI in Brydekirk churchyard reads: In memory of Ann Stott spouse to George Maxwell who died at Mount Annan 12 February 1858 age 28 years. Rene Anderson ----- Original Message ----- From: <Brydekirk@aol.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Maxwell/Moffat > Robert Maxwell b. cir 1790 Cumberland, Eng.? d. 1861 Brydekirk, Scot. > mar. > Jean Moffat 1815 > Annan She b. 1787 K.F. d. 1866 Brydekirk > > Child: > Robert Maxwell b. 1823 d. 1867 Newpark, Brydekirk m. Jane Campbell 1852 > Annan > George b. 1826 Annan Mar. 1. Ann Scott 2. Margaret Bell > Andrew b. 1828 d. 1890 > James Dirom b. 1830 > Margaret b. cir. 1817- 1821 d. 1895 Hutton mar. Thomas Laidlow > > Thanks > Brenda > > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1392 - Release Date: 22/04/2008 15:51

Thomas Hope b. cir. 1758 Eng. ? d. 1846 Tinwald, bur. Kirkpatrick Juxta m. Margaret Elliot d. 1835 Moffat Children: Agnes b. 1780 Cannonbie Thomas b. 1785 Langholm Isabella b. 1787 d. 1809 Whiteholm, K. J.lived Whiteholm Margaret b. 1791 Middlebie d. 1874 Lowerton m. John Bell 1823 Whiteholm, Jannet b. 1791 Cannonbie James b. 1796 Cannonbie Jean b. 1807 in 1841 Cen. living with father Shieldhill Cottage Thanks Brenda **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

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Need any info. Thomas Hope b. cir. 1758 poss. Eng. d. 1846 Kirkpatrick Juxta Mar. Margaret Elliot d. 1835 Moffat Child: Agnes b. 1780 Cannonbie Thomas b. 1785 Langholm Isabella b. 1787 d. 1809 Whiteholm, K.J. Margaret b. 1791 Middlebie d. 1874 Mar. John Bell 1823 James b. 1796 Canonbie Jean b. 1807 Thanks Brenda **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

William Bowman b. 1816 Cumberland d. bef. 1910 Annan Mar. Margaret Moffat 1858 b. 1829 Annan d. 1910 Annan Child: Helen Park Bowman b. 1854 Annan d. 1877 Howgill Bridge, Annan m. Thomas Herbert Mary Ann b. 1858 Annan d. 1889 Ayrshire m. James Wilson John b. 1862 Annan M. Annie Martin 1869 David McLean Bowman b. 1864 d. 1914 m. Annie Lovatt/Lovell Jessie b. 1867 d. 1919 Thank You Brenda **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

Robert Maxwell b. cir 1790 Cumberland, Eng.? d. 1861 Brydekirk, Scot. mar. Jean Moffat 1815 Annan She b. 1787 K.F. d. 1866 Brydekirk Child: Robert Maxwell b. 1823 d. 1867 Newpark, Brydekirk m. Jane Campbell 1852 Annan George b. 1826 Annan Mar. 1. Ann Scott 2. Margaret Bell Andrew b. 1828 d. 1890 James Dirom b. 1830 Margaret b. cir. 1817- 1821 d. 1895 Hutton mar. Thomas Laidlow Thanks Brenda **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

Many thanks to Trich, Jody, Alsion and Irene for their helpful information regarding my visit to Dumfries. Irene _________________________________________________________________ Messenger's gift to you! Download free emoticons today! http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=669758

Hi Sorry for the repost but missed out ELLIOT in the subject line Hi was wondering if anybody may be able to help me with any information on the following family I have two Brothers a James ELLIOT(1) and Walter ELLIOT(2) I belive there parents were James ELLIOT(3) and Isobel TELFER, I can however not find no record of James(1) or Walters(2) births or James ELLIOT(3) and Isobel TELFER's marriages. James ELLIOT(1) was born about 1790 in Canonbie and and married Jane NICHOL daughter of Alexander NICHOL and Mary Robson Walter ELLIOT(2) was born about 1778(according to 1851 census)-1786(1841 Census) in Cavers he married Nelly ROBINSON. Walter died 7 May 1854 and is buried in Oxnam Churchyard. If anybody can help me with James(1) and Walter(2) birth dates and confirm parents names I would be most gratefull.. And also a marriage date for James(1). Any other information on this family would be much appricated Regards Vinnie

Hi List I would also like to connect with Mr Dixon Halliday. I am also researching the Black/Wilson names. I have George BLACK the son of John BLACK and Helen WILSON. This George was born Colvend, Kirkcudbrightshire Aug 1821 dying 29 April 1879 in Buittle. He was a mariner. He married Mary RIDDICK 8 Feb 1849 Liverpool. Mary b 17 Oct 1821 Stepend, Kirkcudbrightshire and died 13 Sep 1873 Buittle. She was the daughter of John Dixon WILSON and Jane GRAY I have his brother Dixon Wilson BLACK b 16 Mar 1831 Courthill, Dumfriesshire and dying 11 Dec 1897 He was a Master Mariner. He married 21 Nov 1859, Buittle to Mary Jane Tait WILSON. Mary was born 30 Dec 1837 Greensmerse, Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire and she died 17 Apr 1889 Buittle. I can go back another generation on the BLACK. Cheers Liz Rigby lizr@chariot.net.au

Hi was wondering if anybody may be able to help me with any information on the following family I have two Brothers a James ELLIOT(1) and Walter ELLIOT(2) I belive there parents were James ELLIOT(3) and Isobel TELFER, I can however not find no record of James(1) or Walters(2) births or James ELLIOT(3) and Isobel TELFER's marriages. James ELLIOT(1) was born about 1790 in Canonbie and and married Jane NICHOL daughter of Alexander NICHOL and Mary Robson Walter ELLIOT(2) was born about 1778(according to 1851 census)-1786(1841 Census) in Cavers he married Nelly ROBINSON. Walter died 7 May 1854 and is buried in Oxnam Churchyard. If anybody can help me with James(1) and Walter(2) birth dates and confirm parents names I would be most gratefull.. And also a marriage date for James(1). Any other information on this family would be much appricated Regards Vinnie

I am researching Little of Wanlockhead. Thomas Little (c1806-1877) married Janet Ferguson (1813-1893) 6 Dec 1835 Sanquhar Janet Ferguson born 6 Jun 1813 Closeburn parents William Ferguson, hotel keeper, and Helen Duff IGI has a Helen Duff born 23 Aug 1789 Closeburn Does anyone have any more details for these families? John Australia _________________________________________________________________ Holiday cheer from Messenger. Download free emoticons today! http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=669758

As per the Tailor record, you can contact the D/G Council Archives<http://www.dumgal.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=2300>now to see if they have a listing of tailors in any of their archival records. If you contact the Stewartry Museum<http://www.dumfriesmuseum.demon.co.uk/stewmuse.html>they may have in their archives a listing of Tailors for that era in their archives. BTW If you send me the name I am currently working on a project for a class and i have some records such as voting records for Kirkcudbright of that time period if i had the name I could see if he was a voter. The D/G Family History Society <http://www.dgfhs.org.uk/> is really small but I would contact them on line to find out if you need to make reservations. As to death records you probably will find it difficult to find them as they weren't required to register deaths until 1855 but you may find them. Have you tried looking on Scotland people<http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/>site in the OPRS that they have, you may have good luck because it was closer to the registration time (1855) I also have a number of grave inscription books for the D/G area if you send me the names I can look it up for you to see in the books I have. I would think you could do a lot of this before you get there. And you might want to spend some time in Edinburgh at the National Archives<http://www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/>because they now have such things such as the Kirk Session records on computes and you can read them on there. USing the archives is very easy and if you go to the NAS site before you co and get the items numbers of records you want, you can call them or contact them and have them ready for when you get there. I did this and it made my research time way more effective. Jody On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:24 AM, Irene Coutts <irenecoutts@hotmail.com>wrote: > > I hope to visit Dumfries next May and am trying to organise my research. > I would like to know if I need to make any bookings for film or fisch > readers > and also where I need to look for these records. I am interested in trying > to > find out the following: > > When and where my ggg-grandmother died (probably between 1841-1851) as > she is listed on the 1841 Census in Trohoughton (hope I have spelt it > correctly). > The 1851 Census shows her husband as a "widower" in England. I haven't > found > her in the English Death records. She was born in Kirkcudbrightshire in > 1786. > > Where she was buried. > > If possible where Nith Lodge was back in the 1890's > > Burial records for another member of the family who died in 1906 in > Dumfries. > > Any obituary notices in the Dumfries newspapers. > > Any information on tailors in the Cargensbridge area of Kircudbrightshire > between > 1841 and 1848, > > Thank you for any suggestions,Irene > _________________________________________________________________ > It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au > > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Jody Allen, Scottish Scribbles Blog http://scottishscribbles.blogspot.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Researching: Scotland: Wallace, Mctaggart, Clarke, Mckean(d), McCartney, Stewart Ireland: Lynch, Drought Wales: Williams, Walsh

Many thanks to both Gordon and Anton for their useful feedback. Cheers Doug Blackstock On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:44 AM, Gordon Johnson <gordon@kinhelp.co.uk>wrote: > > Doug said: > > Perhaps you can clarify something that has puzzled me for sometime: > > > > I have two marriage entries for William Blackstock and Mary Graham in > > different parishes but 6 years apart. I'm reasonably sure that both > entries > > refer to the same couple. The first, recorded in the Stirling parish > > register in 1806 reads: > > > > William Blackstock, priv. Capt Hamilton's Co. R. L. Militia and Mary > Graham > > of this par. > > > > The 2nd, in 1812 in the Dumfries parish register reads: > > > > William Blackstock and Mary Graham 2 > > > > I presume the '2' in the latter record may mean that it was the 2nd time > the > > banns had been called. > > > > I've always assumed that the reason for the 6 year gap in the two records > is > > that William was serving in the Militia and that they may have postponed > > their marriage until he returned to civilian life. > > > > Is this a likely explanation? > > > > Regards > > Doug Blackstock > > ** This is a tricky one. There are several possible answers: > 1. These may be two different couple who happened to have the same names > (I had an example where both couples were in the same parish around the > same time, which made the baptismal register look crazy!). You have to > find something to prove one way or the other whether they were the same > couple. > 2. Assuming they are the same couple, they might have had their banns > called in Stirling, but he was sent off elswhere before they could seal > the knot. Then when he was more settled, he sent for her and they > married in Dumfries. > 3. They MAY have married in Stirling, but for some reason the validity > of the claimed marriage was challenged at Dumfries,(perhaps the entry at > Stirling did not make it clear that the marriage had gone ahead) and so > they went through a marriage ceremony there to make everyone happy. > You will note that neither entry explicit states that they were married > on a specific date. This is common with church registers. > 4. There may be another answer that I haven't brought to mind! > Gordon. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There is more information here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gordon_Nairne Derek Brown > Margaret > > He was Chief cashier in the early decades of the 20th century. That's an > interesting position, since it means his signature appears on Bank of England > banknotes of the time. > > > > Donald > > > > ________________________________ > From: Iain Hutchison <iain@keapub.fsnet.co.uk> > To: Margaret Stantiall <steinthall@xtra.co.nz>; D&G Mailing list > <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:13:34 PM > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Nairn > > John G Nairn was never Bank of England governor according to this source, > Margaret. > > http://www.bized.co.uk/dataserv/chron/governors.htm > > Iain > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Stantiall" <steinthall@xtra.co.nz> > To: "D&G Mailing list" <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:00 AM > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Nairn > > > > > > Hello List, > > > > I hope to find a Sir J. G. Nairn who was a nephew? of Sir Halliday > > Macartney > > on Halliday's death certificate also as next of kin when Donald Halliday > > Macartney enlisted in the Canadian Army in WW1 > > > > Sir Halliday Macartney was born in Kelton KKD in 1833. and became a Dr. > > > > . J. G. Nairn lived in London in 1906 and I believe he was the Governer > > of > > the Bank of England at one time according to an aunt of mine. > > > > Sir Halliday had died before Donald enlisted , I do know there was an > > Isabel > > Macartney a sister of Halliday's who married a Nairn but I do not know > > which > > one. List members have been so helpful, it would be great to find family . > > > > Thank you for any help . > > > > Margaret in NZ. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date: 9/12/2551 > 16:53 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

Well that's a timely reminder that the wording of family notices can be deceptive. Found the 1942 engagement notice for Sarah CLAY and the Rev John Francis DOBSON. Sarah was the only child of Lieut Col Basil Laing- Clay OBE (prisoner of war) and Mrs Clay, Furlongs, Tring (etc) and grandaughter of Sir Gordon and Lady Nairne. So the Sarah and John Dobson in the Narciza's obit must be Sybil's daughter and her husband. Judy On 10 Dec 2008, at 09:06, judy olsen wrote: > Narciza's death notice from 1949 reveals further family names: > > dearly loved mother of Sybil Clay, grandmother of Sarah and John > Dobson. > > I suppose the most likely explanation is that Sybil married a > Dobson and then a Clay? > > Sir J G NAIRNE (sometimes referred to as Sir Gordon Nairne) and his > wife lived in Tring by the way. Their house was called 'Furlongs', > which might reflect his keen interest in horse riding. Her > residence when she died was 'The Bungalow'. > > > Judy > > > > > > > > > On 21 Nov 2008, at 05:00, Margaret Stantiall wrote: > >> Hello List, >> >> I hope to find a Sir J. G. Nairn who was a nephew? of Sir Halliday >> Macartney >> on Halliday's death certificate also as next of kin when Donald >> Halliday >> Macartney enlisted in the Canadian Army in WW1 >> >> Sir Halliday Macartney was born in Kelton KKD in 1833. and became >> a Dr. >> >> . J. G. Nairn lived in London in 1906 and I believe he was the >> Governer of >> the Bank of England at one time according to an aunt of mine. >> >> Sir Halliday had died before Donald enlisted , I do know there was >> an Isabel >> Macartney a sister of Halliday's who married a Nairn but I do not >> know which >> one. List members have been so helpful, it would be great to find >> family . >> >> Thank you for any help . >> >> Margaret in NZ. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUMFRIES- >> GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Narciza's death notice from 1949 reveals further family names: dearly loved mother of Sybil Clay, grandmother of Sarah and John Dobson. I suppose the most likely explanation is that Sybil married a Dobson and then a Clay? Sir J G NAIRNE (sometimes referred to as Sir Gordon Nairne) and his wife lived in Tring by the way. Their house was called 'Furlongs', which might reflect his keen interest in horse riding. Her residence when she died was 'The Bungalow'. Judy On 21 Nov 2008, at 05:00, Margaret Stantiall wrote: > Hello List, > > I hope to find a Sir J. G. Nairn who was a nephew? of Sir Halliday > Macartney > on Halliday's death certificate also as next of kin when Donald > Halliday > Macartney enlisted in the Canadian Army in WW1 > > Sir Halliday Macartney was born in Kelton KKD in 1833. and became > a Dr. > > . J. G. Nairn lived in London in 1906 and I believe he was the > Governer of > the Bank of England at one time according to an aunt of mine. > > Sir Halliday had died before Donald enlisted , I do know there was > an Isabel > Macartney a sister of Halliday's who married a Nairn but I do not > know which > one. List members have been so helpful, it would be great to find > family . > > Thank you for any help . > > Margaret in NZ. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUMFRIES- > GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Full name John Gordon NAIRNE. Knighted in 1914, and according to the Times, born in 1861. Judy On 10 Dec 2008, at 07:27, Donald Henderson wrote: > Margaret > > He was Chief cashier in the early decades of the 20th century. > That's an interesting position, since it means his signature > appears on Bank of England banknotes of the time. > > > > Donald > > > > ________________________________ > From: Iain Hutchison <iain@keapub.fsnet.co.uk> > To: Margaret Stantiall <steinthall@xtra.co.nz>; D&G Mailing list > <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:13:34 PM > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Nairn > > John G Nairn was never Bank of England governor according to this > source, > Margaret. > > http://www.bized.co.uk/dataserv/chron/governors.htm > > Iain > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Stantiall" <steinthall@xtra.co.nz> > To: "D&G Mailing list" <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:00 AM > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Nairn > > >> >> Hello List, >> >> I hope to find a Sir J. G. Nairn who was a nephew? of Sir Halliday >> Macartney >> on Halliday's death certificate also as next of kin when Donald >> Halliday >> Macartney enlisted in the Canadian Army in WW1 >> >> Sir Halliday Macartney was born in Kelton KKD in 1833. and became >> a Dr. >> >> . J. G. Nairn lived in London in 1906 and I believe he was the >> Governer >> of >> the Bank of England at one time according to an aunt of mine. >> >> Sir Halliday had died before Donald enlisted , I do know there was an >> Isabel >> Macartney a sister of Halliday's who married a Nairn but I do not >> know >> which >> one. List members have been so helpful, it would be great to find >> family . >> >> Thank you for any help . >> >> Margaret in NZ. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date: > 9/12/2551 > 16:53 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUMFRIES- > GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUMFRIES- > GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message