Stan, I have found sometimes that I've been able to take a color photograph of a document, take it into Photoshop and be able to deterimine what the letter in question may be. If I can be of help to you, let me know. I've got Photoshop and am willing to take a look at it for you. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "S R Walker" <minnigaff@googlemail.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Jane Lidderdale c1822 Gretna > Hi all > > > > Firstly, a very big thank you to all who replied to me on and off the > list, > including Marg McFarlane, Jody Allen, Irene Macleod, Audrey Render and Kay > McMeekin. Sorry for the delay but I have been discussing your findings, > and > exploring other avenues, with other family members off list. > > > > Secondly, in replying, I am also aware that I am recording these findings > for future researchers on the internet who may be investigating the same > family. > > > > It would appear that Jane Lidderdale was baptised 11 September 1822 at > Graitney, Dumfriesshire, and was the daughter of James Lidderdale and > Janet > Gordon. > > > > Various agencies transcribe the entry as "Janet," and some of you agree > that > this is the name, but I have personally examined a photocopy of the parish > record, which is ambiguous at best, but I am thinking the name is actually > Jane. > > > > The name is obscured by a frustrating smudge or blot which has been > interpreted by transcribers as a "t" but several of us off list with a > personal family interest are not convinced since the slant of the mark > under > the smudge does not look like that of the other "t"s on the parish record > page. > > > > Jane's family has been found at Gretna in the censuses of 1841 through > 1871, > but sometimes the family surname is recorded and/or transcribed as > Lauderdale or Liddesdale. The family now appears on the Lidderdale family > tree website here > > http://www.lidderdale.com/wig_003.html > > > > Which brings me to other evidence to support the name being Jane and not > Janet. > > > > In the 1851 census there is a daughter Janet Lidderdale aged 13 years > (born > c1838) which lines up exactly with the 3 years old Janet Lauderdale in the > 1841 census. It would appear that this is the Janet Lidderdale baptised > 20 > February 1842 at Graitney, Dumfriesshire. > > > > But in the 1841 census there is also a Jane Lauderdale aged 15 years but > we > must remember that the ages of those aged 15 and over were rounded down to > the nearest 5 years in this census, therefore this is probably the Jane > Lidderdale baptised 11 September 1822 at Graitney, Dumfriesshire. > > The point being made is that it is surely highly unlikely that there would > have been two daughters named Janet alive at the same time in 1841? > > I would appreciate some critical analysis or rebuttal of the points I have > made above, particularly from those who think the name is Janet, before I > move on to discuss the married identity of this Jane Lidderdale. > > At this point I need to declare my interest which could well cause me to > be > biased and not impartial. For several years I have been searching for an > elusive Jane Lidderdale in my family tree who is living in north > Cumberland, > bordering Scotland, just 14 miles from Gretna, in the 1861 through 1891 > censuses which frustratingly gives her birthplace as "Scotland". The only > other two Jane Lidderdales born in Scotland around this time are both > fully > accounted for, but are not mine. > > So, I could be desperate for a result and would appreciate some critical > input to keep me balanced. > > Finally, where do I need to go to physically inspect the original > baptismal > parish record with a magnifying glass? > > Kind regards > > Stan Walker > > > > ------------------------------- > > From: Stanley R Walker [mailto: minnigaff@googlemail.com] > Sent: 11 March 2010 11:00 AM > To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Jane Lidderdale c1824 Gretna > > > > I am a new kid on the block. My Galloway credentials are I was born > at Cresswell Maternity Hospital, Dumfries, whilst my parents were > resident at Gatehouse of Fleet. > > We also lived at Creebridge, Minnigaff. My mother and sister are > buried in Newton Stewart Cemetery, Saint Couan's Road, which I visit > regularly if anyone wants a gravestone checked. > > I need assistance in finding the birth/baptism record of Jane > Lidderdale/Lauderdale born circa 1823/1826 at Gretna/Graitney, > daughter of James Lidderdale/Lauderdale and Janet Gordon. > > Where should I start? > > Any assistance would be much appreciated. > > Kind regards > > Stan Walker > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > <mailto:DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com> > DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for information related to James and Elizabeth (Stoddard) Ballentine, parents of William Ballentine.  William was born abt. 1826-1828 Dunfrieshire Scotland.  Elizabeth died when William was a very small boy.  He went to live with his grandfather (name unknown) until age ten, then lived with a Mrs. Carson in the sheep raising area of the Scoittish Hills until age 15.  He then becomed apprenticed to a Blacksmith shop (location unknown) until he could save enough money for passage to America.  He sailed for America in 1847. Would very much appreciate any help with information on his parents, grandparents, Mrs. Carson, etc. Thanks, Jo Ann ------------------------------ To contact the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY list administrator, send an email to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY mailing list, send an email to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ************************************************

Sheila, I have no known connection to the William you're looking for. The furthest back I had got was actually (on checking) William BEATTIE (father of William BEATTIE) born ?1764 died (Canonbie MI) 1843. Regards, Jim

On 3/23/2010 2:31 AM, Jim Graham wrote: > > Hi Sheila, > > Noticed your recent post about missing OPRs. I havn't got into the > 1700s, and I havn't tried a single name study on this family yet, but > I do have William Beattie and others from Canonbie born in the early > 1800s and I was just wondering if we are linked ? Are your Beatties > from Canonbie ? > > Regards, Jim Graham > > > I have not found any connections to William in my family which is as follows William1 BEATTIE, born 1775/76; died 24 Oct 1818 in Cacrawbank, Ettrick, Selkirk, Scotland; buried in Wat Carrick, Eskdalemuir, Dumfries, Scotland. He married Janet TELFER, born 15 Jul 1775 in , Sanquhar, Dumfries, Scotland; died 12 Apr 1858 in Gilmanscleuchs, Kirkhope, Selkirk, Scotland; buried 14 Apr 1858 in Wat Carrick, Eskdalemuir, Dumfries, Scotland, daughter of Robert TELFER and Margaret HYSLOP. Children of William Beattie and Janet Telfer were as follows: 2 i William BEATTIE, born 21 Sep 1807 in , Yarrow, Selkirk, Scotland; christened 8 Nov 1807 in Slenhopefoot, Ettrick, Selkirk, Scotland; died 15 Dec 1881 in Gilmanscleaugh,Kirkhope,Selkirk,Scotland; buried in Kirkhope Kirkyard, Ettrick Bridge, Selkirk,Scotland. m Margaret SCOTT 3 ii Robert BEATTIE, born 10 Apr 1810 in Westerkirk, Dumfries, Scotland; christened 15 Apr 1810 in Bockenhouh,Westerkirk, Dumfries, Scotland; died 20 Mar 1891 in Wolfcleugh-Head; buried in Ettrick Kirkyard, Ettrick,Selkirk,Scotland. m Jean CROZIER 4 iii Walter BEATTIE, christened 18 Oct 1812 in Bockenhouh,Westerkirk, Dumfries, Scotland, died 8 Aug 1848 in Moodlawhill, Harwood Head, Dumfries, Scotland, buried 11 Aug 1848 in Wat Carrick, Eskdalemuir, Dumfries, Scotland. m Helen SCOTT 5 iv Agnes BEATTIE, born 11 Feb 1816 in Westerkirk, Dumfries, Scotland; christened 26 Mar 1816 in Bockenhouh,Westerkirk, Dumfries, Scotland. 6 v Mary BEATTIE, born 22 Feb 1817 in , Yarrow, Selkirk, Scotland; died 20 Aug 1861 in Traquair Mill, Traquair, Peebles,Scotland. m John BRUNTON There are 56 William BEATTIE's in my database who was BM or D in Canonbie Sheila I Hale

Hi Sheila, Noticed your recent post about missing OPRs. I havn't got into the 1700s, and I havn't tried a single name study on this family yet, but I do have William Beattie and others from Canonbie born in the early 1800s and I was just wondering if we are linked ? Are your Beatties from Canonbie ? Regards, Jim Graham

Hi Norma I want to caution you about making the dangerous assumption that Thomas's birth must be one of the ones available on Scotland's people. I have been working for many years on a informal one name study of Beattie's from the border counties. It started by me trying to determine the parents of my William Beattie. In the course of my study I obtained all the christening and marriages from the OPR's which I then merged together into families. After that I filled out those families further using Monumental inscriptions, census records and any other records I could find. It soon became apparent that there were a lot more Beattie's out there than the ones that could be found in the OPR's. For frame you are interested for Dumfries barely half of the individuals are listed on a christening record. The earlier you get the less chance you have of finding them. If they were from Roxburgh or Selkirk your chances are likely about 20%. Maybe you will be lucky and yours is one of the ones that is listed but it is far from a guarantee. I have never been able to determine to my satisfaction who the parents of my William Beattie are. Good luck Sheila I Hale On 3/22/2010 4:55 AM, norma holland wrote: > Hi there folks, > > > > > > Can anyone help with my Anderson ancestors. > the furthest I have got back is Thomas Anderson who died in Kirpatrick Juxta > in 1838 aged 78 married to Catherine Marchbankof Kirkpatrick Juxta. When > their first child was born he was a miller at Archbank near Moffat then he > farmed at Wester Earshaig in Kirpatrick Juxta until his death. > I'm not sure how to find the correct birth. The closest in the county is > 1763 in Eskdalemuir with a father James (his first son was called James so I > guess this would be a good sign!). There are 2 others within +- 5yrs > (Scotland's People). I suspect the Eskdalemuir one is the correct one but > don't know how I could verify this.... > Also, I thought maybe a miller might move there from some other mill further > away. > Anyone got any thoughts? > cheers > Norma > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

http://www.cast.org.uk/dag.htm http://scotsfamily.com/occupations.htm Jody -- Jody Allen, Scottish Scribbles Blog http://scottishscribbles.blogspot.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Researching: Scotland: Wallace, Mctaggart, Clarke, Mckean(d), McCartney, Stewart Ireland: Lynch, Drought Wales: Williams, Walsh

Hi there folks, Can anyone help with my Anderson ancestors. the furthest I have got back is Thomas Anderson who died in Kirpatrick Juxta in 1838 aged 78 married to Catherine Marchbankof Kirkpatrick Juxta. When their first child was born he was a miller at Archbank near Moffat then he farmed at Wester Earshaig in Kirpatrick Juxta until his death. I'm not sure how to find the correct birth. The closest in the county is 1763 in Eskdalemuir with a father James (his first son was called James so I guess this would be a good sign!). There are 2 others within +- 5yrs (Scotland's People). I suspect the Eskdalemuir one is the correct one but don't know how I could verify this.... Also, I thought maybe a miller might move there from some other mill further away. Anyone got any thoughts? cheers Norma

I'm very interested in finding out more about John Armstrong's wife, Jean Laidlay or Lardlay. According to my Armstrong family tree, our John Armstrong married "Lady" Armstrong. I'm wondering if it was really Laidlay or Lardlay or something similar? Can you tell me anymore about the records for them in Dryfesdale parish? Their (?) son James is my gggggrandfather. Thank you so much! Sherry Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: dumfries-galloway-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dumfries-galloway-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Neil Beattie Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:03 AM Cc: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Ref some Parish Records One thought and something more definite. The thought - - - Laidlay/Lardlay could represent Laidlaw A bit more definite . . . . There was a monumental inscription recorded from Dryfesdale in the 1960s which was in memory of Janet Portes and also James Card, her husband. Portes was the actual inscription made by the mason - noted by the transcriber. I have fuller details if required. My comment - - - - could be for Porteous and Caird. Neil > - - - - - those of Armstrong records in > Dryfesdale Parish. > > John Armstrong and Nicholas Jardine < my gggg grandparents! John > Wright and Jean Johnston James Cand and Janet Portons?Persons? < hard > to read. John Portons? and Mary Jardine > John McGown and Jean Armstrong > William Johnston and Betty Armstrong > John Armstrong and Jean Laidlay?Lardlay? > William Wright and Isobel Armstrong > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1949 - Release Date: 2/12/2009 11:34 AM

1815 The brig "GOOD INTENT" of Maryport, a collier, (HEWAT, master) It was wrecked about 2 miles east of the mouth of the River Dee The ship was totally lost and 3 men drowned I am searching for details of this shipwreck. The only listing I have found states that 3 men were lost. No other details. I really would like some advice please, as to how I can find the names of these 3 men. I have seen a will dated 1826 for a William HEWATSEN, part owner of the Good Intent. He leaves 10 pounds to his grandson William, son of his dead son William. I'm wondering whether that dead son was one of the shipwreck victims. My Gt Gt Grandmother was Agnes GUTHRIE, nee Agnes HEWETSON who died in Australia in 1899. She was supposedly born in Troon in 1826, but I can find no record of her birth. Her death certificate states that her father was William HEWITSON, Master Mariner and her Mother Agnes McEWAN. Other known variations of this family's surname are HEWATSON, HEWITSON, HOWATSON. I really have hit a brick wall with this family. I will be very grateful for any help. Tricia In very wet Queensland

Hi Listers, I am hoping that someone can help me with the census please. I have an Annie (or Ann) FRASER born circa 1859 in Dalbeattie Dumfrieshire. She married James DUTHIE on the 8th July 1879 in Dalbeattie. I wondered if anyone can find her for me on the 1861 or 1871. They said for NZ after marriage and had a child here in 1880. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Erin

The marriage record gives James Duthie's age as 28, residing Mouswald, parents David Duthie and Ann Herries. Annie Fraser is given as age 19, residing Dalbeattie, parents William Fraser , Foreman, and Mary Cromar In the IGI there is a christening for Ann Fraser in Sep 17 1860 Newhills Aberdeen. Children of these parents in the same batch # are Results for: British Isles Father: William Fraser, Mother: Mary Cromar Batch Number: C112261 International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 4 1. ANN FRASER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 17 SEP 1860 Newhills, Aberdeen, Scotland 2. JAMES FRASER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 09 SEP 1856 Newhills, Aberdeen, Scotland 3. JANE FRASER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 18 JUL 1865 Newhills, Aberdeen, Scotland 4. JESSIE FRASER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 29 SEP 1858 Newhills, Aberdeen, Scotland Using these details for the Fraser family, they can be found in the census in Newhill Aberdeen in 1861 and in Dalbeattie, Urr parish, Kircudbright in 1871. The following transcriptions are from Ancestry which does not have the images. You need to find those elsewhere because Ancestry transcriptions are not always accurate. Name: William Fraser Age: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Relationship: Son Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Newhill, Aberdeenshire Registration Number: 226 Registration district: Newhills Civil parish: Newhills County: Aberdeenshire Address: Auchmull Occupation: Innkeeper ED: 1 Household schedule number: 58 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1861_31 Household Members: Name Age Ann Taylor 38 George Sharp 19 William Fraser 37 Mary Fraser 36 Margaret Fraser 10 Mary Fraser 6 James Fraser 4 Jessie Fraser 2 Ann Fraser 6 Mo Isabella Birnie 11 Ernest William Fortts 23 Name: William Fraser Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Mary Gender: Male Where born: Newhills, Aberdeen Registration Number: 864 Registration district: Dalbeattie Civil parish: Urr Town: Dalbeattie County: Kirkcudbrightshire Address: High Street Occupation: Foreman Granite Quarry ED: 6 Household schedule number: 58 Line: 15 Roll: CSSCT1871_186 Household Members: Name Age William Fraser 47 Mary Fraser 46 James Fraser 14 Jessie Fraser 12 Ann Fraser 10 Jane Fraser 8 George Gray Fraser 3 James Duthie appears to have been born in St VIGEANS parish, Angus. To David DUthie and Ann HENDRY not Herries as on the marriage registration. British Isles Father: David Duthie, Mother: Ann Hendry Exact Spelling: Off Batch Number: C113194 International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 2 1. MARY DUTHIE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 18 JAN 1853 Saint Vigeans, Angus, Scotland 2. JAMES DUTHIE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 01 JUL 1848 Saint Vigeans, Angus, Scotland 1851 Scotland Census Name: David Duthie Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relationship: Head Spouse's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Fordon, Kincardineshire Parish Number: 319 Civil parish: St Vigeans Town: Estate of Ethie County: Angus Address: East Newton Serv Occupation: Ag Lab ED: 2A Page: 8 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 33 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1851_69 Household Members: Name Age David Duthie 40 Ann Duthie 33 Jane Duthie 8 Agnes Duthie 6 Chirstina Duthie 4 James Duthie 1 1861 census Name: James Duthie Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relationship: Son Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: St.Vigeans, Forfarshire Registration Number: 319 Registration district: St Vigeans Civil parish: St Vigeans County: Angus Address: East Newton Cotter House Occupation: Scholar ED: 1 Household schedule number: 13 Line: 19 Roll: CSSCT1861_46 Household Members: Name Age Ann Duthie 48 James Duthie 11 Mary Duthie 8 Ann Duthie 5 1871 Name: James Duthie Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Gender: Male Where born: St Virgeans, Forfarshire Registration Number: 316 Registration district: Panbride Civil parish: Panbride County: Angus Address: Both Occupation: Farm Serv ED: 4 Household schedule number: 107 Line: 15 Roll: CSSCT1871_59 Household Members: Name Age George Ramsay 43 Isabella Ramsay 46 James Ramsay 5 Mary Ramsay 6 Mary Hanlon 76 James Duthie 21 Hugh Henderson 16 The birth registration of the youngest Duthie daughter Ann in 1855 says her parents married in 1842 and father David died in 1855. Ann was the 6th child and the mother had I boy and 4 girls living. Good luck with your research Joanna > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:41:37 +1300 > From: Arthur and Erin <arthuranderin@clear.net.nz> > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] ANNIE FRASER BORN DALBEATTIE > To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <E232E6F202F24E4891B959DAFA8F5D27@owner3cb5b347e> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Listers, I am hoping that someone can help me with the census please. > > > > I have an Annie (or Ann) FRASER born circa 1859 in Dalbeattie Dumfrieshire. > She married James DUTHIE on the 8th July 1879 in Dalbeattie. > > > > I wondered if anyone can find her for me on the 1861 or 1871. They said for > NZ after marriage and had a child here in 1880. > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Erin

Hello listers, Just wanted to post my research interests again in hopes of connecting with anyone actively researching Pat(t)erson(e) of the Stewartry but specifically the farming Paterson's living around, Langholm, Johnstone Bridge, and Annandale to Closeburn areas in and before 1600 to 1900 timeframes please.. Robert Paterson B: 1653, Archibald B:1686 William B: 1712 James B 1739 Thomas B: 1753 Edward B 1770 William B 1807 These men connect to the Little, Bell, Kirk, McClure, Smith, Proudfoot, Palmer and Jardine Border Reiving families in the area. Happy Hunting All Jim Patterson-Brewin

Hi, I would love to find descendents of Thomas GIBSON and Isabella CARRUTHERS. They were both born in Lochmaben - Thomas in 1804 and I believe Isabella in 1797. Thomas was with the Royal Artillery and their children were born all over the place but a number in Woolwich, Kent. Other that their births they do not appear to have returned to Dumfries but their parents were there - all of which I need to confirm. Thomas I believe was the son of Robert GIBSON and Catherine LAIDLAW and Isabella the daughter of Francis CARRUTHERS and Jean RICHARDSON. I am not certain of her parents. Their marriage entry states "GIBSON - Ths Gibson Royal Artillery and Isabella Carruthers St Georges Parish dau. Late Francis Carruthers farmer Dumfries Shire - No objections" But if you were to look at the names of the children (and not the usual naming pattern) - the children were - Thomas, Isabella (parents names) then Robert, Catherine, Robert (his parents names) then Charlotte, George, Margaret, Sophia, James - none of which match for her parents. Thank you Regards, Pat Wade (Nee King) Melb, Vic

Hi just a note to say that Google Street view is available for the town of Dumfries now. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

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Hi folks I am a new kid on the block. My Galloway credentials are I was born at Cresswell Maternity Hospital, Dumfries, whilst my parents were resident at Gatehouse of Fleet. We also lived at Creebridge, Minnigaff. My mother and sister are buried in Newton Stewart Cemetery, Saint Couan's Road, which I visit regularly if anyone wants a gravestone checked. I need assistance in finding the birth/baptism record of Jane Lidderdale/Lauderdale born circa 1823/1826 at Gretna/Graitney, daughter of James Lidderdale/Lauderdale and Janet Gordon. Where should I start? Any assistance would be much appreciated. Kind regards Stan Walker

Hi Stan: Family search at: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp has: FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles JANET LIDDERDALE Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 11 SEP 1822 Graitney, Dumfries, Scotland Parents: Father: JAMES LIDDERDALE Mother: JANET GORDON Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C118275 1820 - 1854 1067963, 0102319 Film 6901582 Film Go to Scotland's People website: http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ register, buy some credits using your credit card thru their secure server. Search Old Parish Register Birth, Baptisms. You will need 1 credit to get this Index entry: 11/09/1822 LIDDERDALE JANET JAMES LIDDERDALE/JANET GORDON FR464 F GRAITNEY OR GRETNA /DUMFRIES 827/ 0020 0063 and then 5 credits to view the original Old Parish Register page immediately online. Or take the above info to your local LDS Family History Centre, see if they have the film which has the christening entry on it. If not, they can order a copy of the page with the christening on it but there will be a cost. Scotland's people is the way to go if you want to view it immediately. You can enlarge the picture of the page as needed. You can also save the page to your computer. Marg in Sunny Alberta On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:00 AM, Stanley R Walker <minnigaff@googlemail.com>wrote: > Hi folks > > I am a new kid on the block. My Galloway credentials are I was born > at Cresswell Maternity Hospital, Dumfries, whilst my parents were > resident at Gatehouse of Fleet. > > We also lived at Creebridge, Minnigaff. My mother and sister are > buried in Newton Stewart Cemetery, Saint Couan's Road, which I visit > regularly if anyone wants a gravestone checked. > > I need assistance in finding the birth/baptism record of Jane > Lidderdale/Lauderdale born circa 1823/1826 at Gretna/Graitney, > daughter of James Lidderdale/Lauderdale and Janet Gordon. > > Where should I start? > > Any assistance would be much appreciated. > > Kind regards > > Stan Walker > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sherry, I'm sorry but I haven't got any more information on the Armstrong connection. I haven't yet looked down that line yet. Al Johnstone -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sherry" <fancigram@nwi.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:20 PM To: "'Cliff. Johnston'" <moments-in-time@comcast.net>; "'Al Johnstone'" <aljohnstone@hotmail.com>; <dumfries-galloway@rootsweb.com> Subject: RE: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Johnstone's of Lochbrow > I see that Janet Johnstone 1809 - 1878 married John Armstrong, farmer in > Townhead in Kirkmichael in your line. > > My family line includes a John Armstrong - 1700's and his son James > Armstrong 1750 - 1805. James migrated to America in approximately 1770. > Do > you by any chance have any Armstrong information? > > Thank you. > > Sherry Armstrong > > -----Original Message----- > From: dumfries-galloway-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:dumfries-galloway-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff. > Johnston > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:10 AM > To: Al Johnstone; dumfries-galloway@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Johnstone's of Lochbrow > > > Have you had your Y-DNA tested? > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see;" > from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Johnstone" <aljohnstone@hotmail.com> > To: <dumfries-galloway@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:40 AM > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Johnstone's of Lochbrow > > >> Hi Folks, >> >> Thanks for sending me to Scotland's People it yielded great >> information. >> Now >> I'm hoping that you can help point me in the right direction again. I >> have >> finally finished documenting my family record as far as I can which is to >> William Gillespie Johnstone 1747-1821. Now, because of Scotland's People, >> I >> am able to prove this much about my Johnstone of Lochbrow ancestors. >> However, I didn't manage to get any further back than what I knew when I >> began. Family oral tradition says I should be able to go much further >> than >> that. >> >> So I thought that I would share what I know and see if it fits in with >> anyone else's info. Can anyone help me get any further back? >> >> I am taking my kids off to Scotland in two weeks and will probably >> manage >> to >> get a day in the National Archives. But even searching the catalogues >> there >> on-line only yields information that falls into the known time period. >> >> Thanks in Advance, >> >> Alastair Johnstone >> >> >> ----------------- >> Note: Direct ancestors are marked with ** >> >> James Johnstone 1739 - 1817 (Married Elizabeth Byers 1752 - 1835) >> **William Gillespie Johnstone 1747 - 1821 (Married Janet Nichol 1755 - >> 1831) >> -------------------------------------------- >> Margaret Johnstone (1779 - 1784) >> **James Johnstone 1782 - 1855 born in Halleaths (Married Margaret >> Halliday 1789 - 1865) Janet Johnstone (1784 - 1863) (Married William >> Gillespie of Windyhills) >> -------------------------------------------- >> Margaret Johnstone 1807 - 1859 (Married James Gillespie (1790 - 1873), >> whose >> grandfather's half-brother was Jakobus Mounsey) >> Janet Johnstone 1809 - 1878 (Married John Armstrong farmer in Townhead in >> Kirkmichael) >> Dr. Christopher Johnstone 1811 - 1855 >> **William Gillespie Johnstone 1813 - 1895 (Sarah Jardine whose father was >> Mr. Jardine of Millbank, **Elizabeth Halliday whose father was James >> Halliday, Estate Manager, Panlands) >> Agnes Johnstone 1818 - 1873 (Married James Jamieson farmer in >> Castlemilktown) >> Jean Johnstone 1816 - 1884 (Married James Jardine (1813 - 1874) farmer in >> Millbank) >> Mary Anne Johnstone 1821 - 1901 (Married Robert Graham) >> James Johnstone 1825 - ???? (Farmer. In 1895 in HallHills Parish of >> Applegarth) >> Sarah Johnstone 1828 - 1887 >> -------------------------------------------- >> Margaret Johnstone 1838 - 1915 (Mother Sarah Jardine, Married Alexander >> Halliday (1835 - 1901) of Woodend) >> **James Johnstone 1870 - 1957 (Mother Elizabeth Halliday, Married Janet >> McNish Mair) >> Mary Ann Johnstone 1871 - 1934 (Mother Elizabeth Halliday) >> Elizabeth Johnstone 1867 - 1935 (Mother Elizabeth Halliday, Married James >> Black) >> -------------------------------------------- >> **William Gillespie Johnstone 1908 - 1981 (Married Dorothy Mary Clark >> 1906 - >> 1991) >> Marion Calderhead Johnstone 1909 - 1989 (Married James McNae) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in > this > incoming message. 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Sherry, Can you tell me how you found out that Janet Johnstone is in my line? Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry" <fancigram@nwi.net> To: "'Cliff. Johnston'" <moments-in-time@comcast.net>; "'Al Johnstone'" <aljohnstone@hotmail.com>; <dumfries-galloway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: RE: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Johnstone's of Lochbrow I see that Janet Johnstone 1809 - 1878 married John Armstrong, farmer in Townhead in Kirkmichael in your line. My family line includes a John Armstrong - 1700's and his son James Armstrong 1750 - 1805. James migrated to America in approximately 1770. Do you by any chance have any Armstrong information? Thank you. Sherry Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: dumfries-galloway-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dumfries-galloway-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:10 AM To: Al Johnstone; dumfries-galloway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Johnstone's of Lochbrow Have you had your Y-DNA tested? Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Johnstone" <aljohnstone@hotmail.com> To: <dumfries-galloway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:40 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Johnstone's of Lochbrow > Hi Folks, > > Thanks for sending me to Scotland's People it yielded great > information. > Now > I'm hoping that you can help point me in the right direction again. I have > finally finished documenting my family record as far as I can which is to > William Gillespie Johnstone 1747-1821. Now, because of Scotland's People, > I > am able to prove this much about my Johnstone of Lochbrow ancestors. > However, I didn't manage to get any further back than what I knew when I > began. Family oral tradition says I should be able to go much further than > that. > > So I thought that I would share what I know and see if it fits in with > anyone else's info. Can anyone help me get any further back? > > I am taking my kids off to Scotland in two weeks and will probably > manage > to > get a day in the National Archives. But even searching the catalogues > there > on-line only yields information that falls into the known time period. > > Thanks in Advance, > > Alastair Johnstone > > > ----------------- > Note: Direct ancestors are marked with ** > > James Johnstone 1739 - 1817 (Married Elizabeth Byers 1752 - 1835) > **William Gillespie Johnstone 1747 - 1821 (Married Janet Nichol 1755 - > 1831) > -------------------------------------------- > Margaret Johnstone (1779 - 1784) > **James Johnstone 1782 - 1855 born in Halleaths (Married Margaret > Halliday 1789 - 1865) Janet Johnstone (1784 - 1863) (Married William > Gillespie of Windyhills) > -------------------------------------------- > Margaret Johnstone 1807 - 1859 (Married James Gillespie (1790 - 1873), > whose > grandfather's half-brother was Jakobus Mounsey) > Janet Johnstone 1809 - 1878 (Married John Armstrong farmer in Townhead in > Kirkmichael) > Dr. Christopher Johnstone 1811 - 1855 > **William Gillespie Johnstone 1813 - 1895 (Sarah Jardine whose father was > Mr. Jardine of Millbank, **Elizabeth Halliday whose father was James > Halliday, Estate Manager, Panlands) > Agnes Johnstone 1818 - 1873 (Married James Jamieson farmer in > Castlemilktown) > Jean Johnstone 1816 - 1884 (Married James Jardine (1813 - 1874) farmer in > Millbank) > Mary Anne Johnstone 1821 - 1901 (Married Robert Graham) > James Johnstone 1825 - ???? (Farmer. In 1895 in HallHills Parish of > Applegarth) > Sarah Johnstone 1828 - 1887 > -------------------------------------------- > Margaret Johnstone 1838 - 1915 (Mother Sarah Jardine, Married Alexander > Halliday (1835 - 1901) of Woodend) > **James Johnstone 1870 - 1957 (Mother Elizabeth Halliday, Married Janet > McNish Mair) > Mary Ann Johnstone 1871 - 1934 (Mother Elizabeth Halliday) > Elizabeth Johnstone 1867 - 1935 (Mother Elizabeth Halliday, Married James > Black) > -------------------------------------------- > **William Gillespie Johnstone 1908 - 1981 (Married Dorothy Mary Clark > 1906 - > 1991) > Marion Calderhead Johnstone 1909 - 1989 (Married James McNae) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.43/2280 - Release Date: 08/03/09 17:56:00