Hello there, I've just joined this list and wondering if anyone out there knows anything about Elizabeth. According to several census records, she was born in Wigton, Scotland about mid 1860s and her father was Andrew Wilson, a Book Agent or Traveller. She was married in Leeds in 1888 and eventually died there in 1943. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me about her birth date or parents. Hope someone can help regards Judy in Australia

To all the wonderful listers who contacted me please know you are the best and I am most grateful for your considerable help and suggestions one and all:-) Happy Hunting Jim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Patterson Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:10 AM To: Wigtownshire Roots Web list; Dumfries-Galloway rootsweb list Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] SKS, Need help of Experienced Researcher please? Hello All, Jim Patterson in Western Canada connecting, I am in need of some experienced advice and guidance that is unrelated to our Wigs or Dumfries lists as I have a situation in England with a relative (first Cousin once removed) that is causing me heartachesJ My cousin was born in 1945 near the end of the war in an English southerly village, sadly his mother my Gt Aunt died in the process due to complications. It was my Gt Aunts slightly older sister who helped in the birth as there were no doctors available at that time and location due to wartime. At the time just before the birth my Gt Aunt had run away from her husband as he was not a "good man", and was continuing with a long term extra marital affair for more that 3 years prior to the birth of his son. After the death my Gt Aunt was buried in Gloucestershire where the husband was from and birth family. The son survived and was raised by my Gt Aunt who attended the birth for his first 20-24 months and then out of the blue the father arrived one day with his new wife on his arm and took his son away who was never heard of again by close kin. The Boy found out when age 9 that his birth mum had died and the only Mum he knew was his step Mum.. The son only had the small birth record all his life so on my advice purchased a full birth certificate which showed he was born in a Gloucestershire Hospital close to where his Dad lived. I have told my cousin to get a Death certificate for his Mum which should show the place of death but as the father had much to hide may have registered the birth and death as he wanted them to be? As there was no Doctor present I would assume a Doctor would be called to write the death certificate and a Coroner's report would be required after a PM, so there would be a Coroner's report somewhere? This boy sadly was not looked after and was like his Mum also subject to the reason his birth mum fled and upon the death bed of his step Mum she said you weren't wanted and were not my child so are not in my will. With this info in mind I want to do everything I can to help this cousin find the truth and have reconnected him to his birth family now and all is well but I was not ready to give up quite yetJ I traced my Gt Aunts oldest and best friend who is still alive at 90 and very bright. The friend confirmed the birth where our kin said it occurred and not in the hospital as the certificate suggests. Confirmed her friend had to flee due to a very abusive situation. Confirmed burial in Gloucestershire of my Gt Aunt. Confirmed where my Cousin was born as well as she was in close contact with her best friend until the day she fled. Now, if anyone has advice as to how I can prove the birth occurred in Bristol rather that Gloucestershire as per the certificate and any other guidance or advice all will be greatly appreciated one and allJ I am most grateful that you read this request and thank you all for any leads, snippets of info you may suggestJ Cheers Aye Jim Patterson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3610 - Release Date: 05/01/11 23:35:00

Hello All, Jim Patterson in Western Canada connecting, I am in need of some experienced advice and guidance that is unrelated to our Wigs or Dumfries lists as I have a situation in England with a relative (first Cousin once removed) that is causing me heartachesJ My cousin was born in 1945 near the end of the war in an English southerly village, sadly his mother my Gt Aunt died in the process due to complications. It was my Gt Aunts slightly older sister who helped in the birth as there were no doctors available at that time and location due to wartime. At the time just before the birth my Gt Aunt had run away from her husband as he was not a "good man", and was continuing with a long term extra marital affair for more that 3 years prior to the birth of his son. After the death my Gt Aunt was buried in Gloucestershire where the husband was from and birth family. The son survived and was raised by my Gt Aunt who attended the birth for his first 20-24 months and then out of the blue the father arrived one day with his new wife on his arm and took his son away who was never heard of again by close kin. The Boy found out when age 9 that his birth mum had died and the only Mum he knew was his step Mum.. The son only had the small birth record all his life so on my advice purchased a full birth certificate which showed he was born in a Gloucestershire Hospital close to where his Dad lived. I have told my cousin to get a Death certificate for his Mum which should show the place of death but as the father had much to hide may have registered the birth and death as he wanted them to be? As there was no Doctor present I would assume a Doctor would be called to write the death certificate and a Coroner's report would be required after a PM, so there would be a Coroner's report somewhere? This boy sadly was not looked after and was like his Mum also subject to the reason his birth mum fled and upon the death bed of his step Mum she said you weren't wanted and were not my child so are not in my will. With this info in mind I want to do everything I can to help this cousin find the truth and have reconnected him to his birth family now and all is well but I was not ready to give up quite yetJ I traced my Gt Aunts oldest and best friend who is still alive at 90 and very bright. The friend confirmed the birth where our kin said it occurred and not in the hospital as the certificate suggests. Confirmed her friend had to flee due to a very abusive situation. Confirmed burial in Gloucestershire of my Gt Aunt. Confirmed where my Cousin was born as well as she was in close contact with her best friend until the day she fled. Now, if anyone has advice as to how I can prove the birth occurred in Bristol rather that Gloucestershire as per the certificate and any other guidance or advice all will be greatly appreciated one and allJ I am most grateful that you read this request and thank you all for any leads, snippets of info you may suggestJ Cheers Aye Jim Patterson

Hi Lucille thats an unusual name Sloper for Dumfries I think it may be English, I could not find anything in the resources I have so I had a look around and on Ancestry trees there are 3 trees with them on it ( any tree on Ancestry use as a guide only and check for yourself as a lot of trees have wrong info on them and are blindly copied by folk it gets out of hand at times ) the trees have a David White married to a Margaret Sloper....... no info on her at all Davids Parents are John White and Barbara Murdock Stewart Davis White b 1751 Wigtown Wigtownshire death 1846 Shelburne Nova Scotia Canada son David white 5 Feb 1771 New York died 1872 Yarmouth Nova Scotia he married Mary Hurlburt 17 Jul 1808 Argyle Nova Scotia Canada children Margaret White 1810 – 1909 William White 1816 – 1916 Deborah White 1823 – Edward B. White 1831 – 1884 Isaac White 1837 – 1910 there is a lot more on the children marriages and children taking up to recent times Hope this helps Lesley In Tasmania

I did just find some info that I may get something out of it have written to The Scottish Genealogy Society as it looks as if they have a set of papers which I found googling Graham and Hallheaths Dumfries GRAHAM 3 DFS. 1763-1948+ T C 43 pages Dealing with the family in Lochmaben and the Grahams of Broomhill and Halleaths. also found this about Limekilns....... what caught my eye was the 1790 birth of a Philadelphia Ann at a time when my Philadelphia known also as Phillis or Phillie and her daughter Ann would have been living on this Farm /Estate 784. JAMES LAWRIE, licensed by Presbytery of Penpont, 5th Aug. 1778; presented by George III. in February, and ordained 2nd September 1784; died 26th March 1799, in his 47th year. He married 4th April 1785, Rachel (died 1st June 1826), daughter of Adam Carlyle of Limekilns, and had issue— Adam, born 21st Jan. 1786; Rachel Douglas, born 4th June 1787 (married —- Wilkin, farmer, Tinwald Shaws); William James, born 30th Sept. 1788; Philadelphia Ann, born 21st May, and died 1st June 1790; Thomas, born 27th April 1793; James, born 20th May 1796.

I am trying to find my GGG Grandparents death details. They are William Moffat and Christian Moffat(nee Fraser) William was born in Annan -1772 and Christian Fraser was born Annan - 1777. They were married September 1796 - Annan. Their son James Moffat died 10 May 1857 - in lodgings, in Annan. In his death details, it says William & Christian were both deceased. So, all I know they died before 1857. William Moffat was a blacksmith in Annan. I am also trying to establish James Moffat's wife. I only know he was a widower in 1857. They had a son, John Moffat, as he was present at his father's death. I seem to have hit a brick wall so, any information would be very much appreciated. Regards, Margaret

I have baptisms for Barbara Graham 16 Nov 1779 parents John Graham & Philadelphia Rodick in "Roberthill" Drysedale Dumfries Anne Graham 2 Mar 1783 parents John Graham & Phillis Roddic in "Limekilns " Annan Dumfries William Graham 16 Aug 1794 says to John Graham & Philie Rodock in "Hallheaths" Lochmaben John Graham was noted as a Farmer on his other 2 daughters deaths Phillis & Euphemia b in Troqueer according to Census but no births found Does anyone know whether those places are farms or estates ? regards lesley in Tasmania I found this about Hallheaths http://www.robertburns.org/encyclopedia/RiddellWalter1764-1802.748.shtml The Walter Riddells moved to Tinwald House, between Dumfries and Lochmaben. In May 1795, they moved again, to the smaller house of Hallheaths, on the eastward side of Lochmaben. They were there when Burns died. By the spring of 1795, they had so far become friendly again for Burns to send her Reid's miniature on loan. By now, Maria was living, much more humbly, at Tinwald House, between Dumfries and Lochmaben. For, on her husband's return from the West Indies without the balance of the purchase money, Woodley Park had been repossessed by its former owner. In May, the Walter Riddells moved again, to Hallheaths on the eastern side of Lochmaben. From there, Maria wrote to Burns asking his advice about getting a job for a protege of hers. By the late summer, she was again sending her verses for Burns's criticism. In October and November 1795, Burns told her of 'severe domestic rnisfortune' — the death of his daughter Elizabeth. He added: 'I am much correspondence in your debt: I shall pay it soon.'

Yet another query that was afforded me by the 1911 census... My g'grandfather Thomas Boyd Mcdonald and his 4 children lived at 57 Hall Road. He was an Estate Worker at the time of the 1911 census as he had been in prior census' and, in 1909 as per family documentation. In the earlier census he was Ag Laborer and, in 1909 was listed as Motor Car driver on a family birth certificate (assumedly on the same estate?). My question is, if anyone is familiar with the area, at what Estate could he have been employed? Any tidbit of info would be greatly appreciated! Mary A. Paladin; Pennsylvania, USA

Would anyone have information on David White born about 1752. He was married to Mary Sloper. A son David was born in 1771. Any help as to where I can look will be of help Lucille White

Hi I have just found a couple more of my Roddick line that I have been chipping away at would appreciate if anyone has local street knowledge or grave stone memorial's on Grahams I was going through all Roddicks births on Old Scottish Church records CD and noticed a Phillis Roddick which caught my eye she had a husband John Graham noted as a Phillis /Philadelphia / Philie Roddic & John Graham children ....they moved around the district a fair bit so its hard to pinpoint origins there are possibly more children its a 30 year timespan that children are born over and may only find out from gravestones .................also perhaps I am wrong about all being the same family ?? but don't think that more than one Phillis Roddick & John Graham was about Barbara Graham 16 Nov 1779 Drysedale Ann Graham 2 Mar 1783 Annan Dumfries William Graham 16 Aug 1794 Lochmaben Have not been able to find anything concrete yet on them but as My GGG Grandad had 2 of his daughters named Phillis & Euphemia Roddick they also never married lived in Dumfries both were teachers I took a punt and searched in English Census for a Phillis Graham as its an unusual name in Dumfries and found Phillis Graham in England as a FS 1841 and Nurse 1851 Phillis Graham b 1802 Troqueer Kirkudbright died age 81 1880 4 Bridge Street Dumfries (needlewoman) & Euphemia Graham b 1809 died age 80 1889 at 2 Ainslie Terrace Dumfries (Housekeeper) I got the 2 death certs which confirms daughters of John Graham a farmer & Phillis Roddick the surname for mother on Euphemias is not readable but does not look like Roddick the informant was Ann Hanna niece she could be daughter of sister Barbara ? (This sometimes happens that informant gives wrong name ) neither girls married the address on Scottish census 1881 is 4 Bridge Street Dumfries I had a look at google maps and it shows the Brig Inn which is no 5 ( according to a web search) and opposite a row of cottages only one has number on it no 3 the cottage that could be no 4 ( the numbers don't seem to work as ours do odds one side and evens the other ) is the one in the middle and interestingly is named REDDICK COTTAGE it looks as if this is actually Brydekirk from street signs and not Dumfries township so am I wrong in thinking this is the Bridge Street Dumfries? FHL Film 0224047 GRO Ref Volume 821 EnumDist 5 Page 22 1871 Census they were both living together at 72 English Street Dumfries noted as Dressmakers I have not found Euphemia prior to 1871 I can find nothing in Memorials of St Michaels, no wills ,no Kirk sessions there are so many John and William Grahams I am hoping that maybe someone will recognise the names above I have added as much as poss on them as may be useful to someone else regards lesley in Tasmania

Hi Mary, Capelgill Farm is definitely still there, there is row of cottages nearby but I couldn't say which one is actually your shepherds cottage. I have walked the hills in that area many times.  I probably have numerous photographs of the farm taken from the roadside  where we park and the hills around.  I'll look out some if you would like to have them. I used to have a website showing the farm.   In the meantime have a look at a page from my walking pals website http://www.walkscotland.plus.com/Borders/pages/sadlY1a.htm  The map shows the location of the farm and below the map there is small photo looking down on the farm from the hill Saddle Yoke taken during one of our many ascents.  hope to go back their and walk up Blackhope below Hartfell -- not fit enough to scale Saddle Yoke these days. Cheers, Sandy ________________________________ From: mary amelia paladin <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 17 April, 2011 21:35:10 Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Capplegill Shepard's House? While having an absolutely wonderful time with the 1911 census I discovered some of my ancestors, the Elliot/Mcdonald family living at Capplegill Shepard's House in Moffat. Can anyone tell me if it, or the farm to which it belonged, is still in existence? Thanks so very much, Mary Paladin; PA; USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many Thanks to Marg McFarlane for her help with my Dickson Thorburns very much appreciated Best regards Lesley In Tasmania

While having an absolutely wonderful time with the 1911 census I discovered some of my ancestors, the Elliot/Mcdonald family living at Capplegill Shepard's House in Moffat. Can anyone tell me if it, or the farm to which it belonged, is still in existence? Thanks so very much, Mary Paladin; PA; USA

Hi Brenda Corriehills and Corrielaw are a few miles north of Lockerbie in Dryfesdale parish. I think that Stobahill is a miss-transcription for Slodahill (in the same vicinity) Combstone is probably Cumstone in Applegarth parish. John Johnston, the poet, came from Penlaw which is in the same area. Best wishes Ian A McClumpha Need help with your Scottish Family History research? Let Imchad Ancestry assist you. Please look at our website: www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 11 April 2011 12:29 To: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONES HELLO CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE ARE STOBAHILL CORRIELAW COMBSTONE CORRIEHILLS THESE ARE PLACES I WAS GIVEN AS HOMES OF AGNES JOHNSTONE B. 1770 BRYDEKIR SHE MAR. JOHN JOHNSTONE (THE POET) I THINK A JAMES BELL ALSO FITS IN THERE SOMEPLACE ANY HELP APPRECIATED BRENDA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brenda & Ian, Brenda, do you have a male Johnston/e in your line who has had his Y-DNA tested? It would be interesting to see if he is any kin to our extended Poldean group. We have over 50 tested now who participate. Ian is currently doing research for us in Scotland to see if and how we all fit together. He's much too modest to tout his own horn, so I'll do some for him ;-) Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see," >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian A McClumpha Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 1:20 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONES Hi Brenda Corriehills and Corrielaw are a few miles north of Lockerbie in Dryfesdale parish. I think that Stobahill is a miss-transcription for Slodahill (in the same vicinity) Combstone is probably Cumstone in Applegarth parish. John Johnston, the poet, came from Penlaw which is in the same area. Best wishes Ian A McClumpha Need help with your Scottish Family History research? Let Imchad Ancestry assist you. Please look at our website: www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 11 April 2011 12:29 To: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONES HELLO CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE ARE STOBAHILL CORRIELAW COMBSTONE CORRIEHILLS THESE ARE PLACES I WAS GIVEN AS HOMES OF AGNES JOHNSTONE B. 1770 BRYDEKIR SHE MAR. JOHN JOHNSTONE (THE POET) I THINK A JAMES BELL ALSO FITS IN THERE SOMEPLACE ANY HELP APPRECIATED BRENDA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

here is a useful resource 1911-1912 Dumfries & District post office directory that can be downloaded http://ia700105.us.archive.org/2/items/dumfriesdistrict191112dir/dumfriesdistrict191112dir.pdf regards lesley in tasmania

HELLO CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE ARE STOBAHILL CORRIELAW COMBSTONE CORRIEHILLS THESE ARE PLACES I WAS GIVEN AS HOMES OF AGNES JOHNSTONE B. 1770 BRYDEKIR SHE MAR. JOHN JOHNSTONE (THE POET) I THINK A JAMES BELL ALSO FITS IN THERE SOMEPLACE ANY HELP APPRECIATED BRENDA

** I checked the indexes of both volumes, and there was no Dickison or Dickinson there, or any name like it. Gordon. > Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 09:02:55 -0400 > From: "Anne Wilson"<[email protected]> > > To Gordon Johnson, > Is it possible that you could look for my gggrandfather John Dickison in the > Buccleuch papers? My information is that John Dickison was overseer of the > Maudslie Farm in Temple, Midlothian and was selected by a Mr. Maitland and > Colonel Grant to go to New Zealand and manage the Delvy Estate, a lease > acquired by Lord Buccleuch in 1859. John Dickison was born in Bedrule in > 1822. Interestingly, John's daughter, Eliza Dickison married John Edgar in > New Zealand and the Edgars of Moffat were descended from the Scotts of > Canonbie and said to have been some relation to Lord Buccleuch. > > Anne Wilson formerly of EnZed, now Florida.

I am trying to find info on John Dickson who married Mary Thorburn but have not had any success and wonder if any researchers of the same surnames have come across anything I know from death cert of his son Dumfries jeweller Samuel Donaldson Dickson's 1811-1859 , that his father was a Blacksmith named John Dickson and his Mother was Mary Thorburn ………… The informant was brother in- law Walter C------ ? cant make it out ? 136 High Street Dumfries 1841 census has Samuel & Ann in Queensbury Street John DICKSON (1784 - ) John +. Mary THORBURN d. ? Occupation: Blacksmith John's Children: from Church Records CD Isabella DICKSON (1806), John DICKSON (1810), Samuel Donaldson DICKSON (1811), Mary Nairn DICKSON (1814), Barbara DICKSON (1816), Joseph DICKSON (1819), Robert Donaldson DICKSON (1820) all children were born in Carlaverock but only the father John was noted as parent son Samuel Donaldson DICKSON married Annie MILROY 13 Mar 1840 after the death of his first wife Mary MCCORMICK who died in 1831…. Annie Milroy was the daughter of Thomas MILROY Joiner & Beatrice RODDICK the daughter of my 4x G Grandfather John RODDICK& Elspeth SINCLAIR John's Grandchildren: John DICKSON (1831), Thomas Milroy DICKSON (1841), Joseph Walker Hinchcliffe DICKSON (1843), Mary Thorburn DICKSON (1844), Samuel Donaldson DICKSON (1846), Robert Donaldson DICKSON (1847), James McLachlan DICKSON (1849), Charles Gunning DICKSON (1850), Anne DICKSON (1851), Joseph DICKSON (1853), William Thorburn DICKSON (1855), William Scott DICKSON (1856), Thomas Hugh Ferguson DICKSON (1859) I have the following from Memorials of St Michaels pages 320 -321 " A neat monument nearby bears the name of Samuel Dickson jeweller died 5th march 1859 age 46 of whom the inscription truly says "He was kind father an affectionate husband,and much respected by all who knew him" Mr Dickson's wife Mary McCormick died 10th Oct 1832 in her 19th year his second wife Annie Milroy died 21st Oct 1871 age 54 with six of his children are also named in the inscription including Thomas Milroy Dickson died age 6 Thomas H Ferguson Dickson at 17 William Scott Dickson at 19 and James Mclachlan Dickson lost at sea age 23 an adjoining headstone rises to commemorate Thomas Milroy father of Annie Milroy died 21 Feb 1845 aged 57 his wife Beatrice Riddick; and their daughter Euphemia aged 32 there is no record on Scotlands People for this nor in Glasgow Herald so not certain which Robert it refers to have not purchased the will yet $$$ :0( Robert Donaldson Dickson Death: 30 May 1874 in New Orleans, Louisiana, United States of America will DICKSON ROBERT DONALDSON 30/05/1874 SAILOR, MERCHANT SERVICE, RESIDING IN DUMFRIES DUMFRIES SHERIFF COURT SC15/41/15 There are Thorburns of Barnkin mentioned in the gravestones ie John Thorburn tenant of Barnkin died Apr 1792 age 43 and his wife & Isabella Donaldson who may be connected in some way (only going by Donaldson surname ) Regards Lesley in Tasmania

Hi Lesley: A bit of what you would find if you purchase the full records: England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941 Record for Robert Donaldson Dickson England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941: 4 June The Confirmation of the Commissariot of Dumfries dated 30 May 1874 of Joseph Dickson, Printer & Publisher, of Loreburn Street, Dumfries, & Mrs. Isabella Dickson or Easton of 58 English Street, Dumfries, Widow, as Executors Dative qua Next of Kin of Robert Donaldson Dickson, Dumfries, Sailor, who latterly sailed in the Merchant Ship "Kalamazoo" trading between England and America, who was drowned near New Orleans about the beginning of 1847.(---the entry does say 1847 instead of 1874, perhaps the person who did the transcription mixed up his birth and death years?) So I started looking for Mrs. Isabella Dickson or Easton and found: 1861 Scotland Census Name: Walter Easton Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Isabella Easton Gender: Male Where born: Dumfries, Dumfriesshire Registration Number: 821 Registration district: Dumfries Civil parish: Dumfries St Mary County: Dumfriesshire Address: 60 Pleasance ED: 13 Household schedule number: 60 Page: 11 Line: 11 Roll: CSSCT1861_143 Household Members: Name Age Walter Easton Head 44 Married born Dumfries, Dfs Occupation: Printer & Publisher Dumfries & Galloway Standard News Paper Isabella Easton Wife 48 married born Carlaverock, Dumfriesshire Scotland Deaths: 1862 EASTON WALTER M DUMFRIES /DUMFRIES 821/00 0261 Walter Easton, Printer & Publisher, married to Isabella Dickson, died at ____ Close, High Street, Dumfries on August 8, 1862, age 47 years, cause is hard to read, informant is John Dickson, ______??, Dumfries (I think), Nephew, present. Box for names of parents is blank. I can send you the original if you want it. I think that the Walter _____ on Samuel's death reg, brother-in-law, is Walter Easton, not Walter C____. Try the Glasgow or Dumfries newspapers for obits for Walter, and perhaps Samuel, since Walter was a newspaper printer & publisher, there was likely an obit somewhere. Check cemetery transcripts for his burial and Isabella's. I couldn't find her death reg. 1851 Scotland Census Name: Robert Dickson Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Samuel Dickson Mother's Name: Ann Dickson Gender: Male Where born: Town, Dumfries Parish Number: 821 Civil parish: Dumfries Town: Dumfries County: Dumfriesshire Address: Queen Street ED: 13 Page: 2 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 2/3 Line: 5 Roll: CSSCT1851_206 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Dickson 38 Ann Dickson 33 Robert Dickson 3 James Dickson 1 Ann Barber 19 1861 Scotland Census Robt Dickson Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relationship: Son Mother's Name: Ann Dickson Gender: Male Where born: Dumfries Registration Number: 821 Registration district: Dumfries Civil parish: Dumfries St Mary Town: Dumfries County: Dumfriesshire Address: High Street Occupation: Steampacket Clerk ED: 10 Household schedule number: 66 Line: 2 Roll: CSSCT1861_143 Household Members: Name Age Ann Dickson 43 Robt Dickson 14 Ann Dickson 10 Joseph Dickson 8 William Dickson 5 Thomas Dickson 2 1871 Scotland Census Name: Robert Dickson Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relationship: Son Mother's Name: Annie Dickson Gender: Male Where born: Dumfries, Dumfries Registration Number: 821/1 Registration district: Dumfries Burgh Civil parish: Dumfries Town: Dumfries County: Dumfriesshire Address: 26 High St (close) Occupation: Sailer ED: 12 Household schedule number: 74 Line: 19 Roll: CSSCT1871_183 Household Members: Name Age Annie Dickson 51 Robert Dickson 24 Annie Dickson 19 Joseph Dickson 18 William Dickson 14 Thomas Dickson 11 Marg in Sunny Alberta On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Lesley Fiedler <[email protected]> wrote: > I am trying to find info on John Dickson who married  Mary Thorburn but have not had any success and wonder if any researchers of  the same surnames have come across anything > > I know from death cert  of his son  Dumfries jeweller Samuel Donaldson Dickson's  1811-1859 , that his father  was a Blacksmith named   John Dickson and his Mother was Mary Thorburn ………… The informant was  brother in- law Walter C------ ?  cant make it out ? 136 High Street Dumfries > >  1841 census has  Samuel  & Ann in Queensbury Street > > > John DICKSON (1784 - ) >  John  +. Mary THORBURN > d. ? > > Occupation: Blacksmith > > John's Children: from Church Records CD Isabella DICKSON (1806), John DICKSON (1810), Samuel Donaldson DICKSON (1811), Mary Nairn DICKSON (1814), Barbara DICKSON (1816), Joseph DICKSON (1819), Robert Donaldson DICKSON (1820) all children   were born in Carlaverock but only the father John was noted as parent > > son Samuel Donaldson DICKSON married Annie MILROY 13 Mar 1840 after the death of his first wife Mary MCCORMICK who died in 1831…. Annie Milroy was the daughter of Thomas MILROY Joiner & Beatrice RODDICK the daughter of my 4x G Grandfather  John RODDICK& Elspeth SINCLAIR > > John's Grandchildren: John DICKSON (1831), Thomas Milroy DICKSON (1841), Joseph Walker Hinchcliffe DICKSON (1843), Mary Thorburn DICKSON (1844), Samuel Donaldson DICKSON (1846), Robert Donaldson DICKSON (1847), James McLachlan DICKSON (1849), Charles Gunning DICKSON (1850), Anne DICKSON (1851), Joseph DICKSON (1853), William Thorburn DICKSON (1855), William Scott DICKSON (1856), Thomas Hugh Ferguson DICKSON (1859) > > >  I have the following   from Memorials of St Michaels pages 320 -321 > " A neat monument nearby  bears the name of  Samuel Dickson jeweller died 5th march 1859 age 46 of whom the inscription truly says "He was  kind father  an affectionate husband,and much respected by all who knew him"  Mr Dickson's  wife Mary McCormick died 10th Oct 1832 in her 19th year his second wife  Annie Milroy died 21st Oct 1871 age 54 with six of his children are also named in the inscription including Thomas Milroy  Dickson died age 6 Thomas H Ferguson Dickson at 17   William Scott Dickson at 19 and James Mclachlan Dickson lost at sea age 23 > an adjoining  headstone rises to commemorate Thomas Milroy father of Annie Milroy died 21 Feb 1845 aged 57 his wife Beatrice Riddick; and their daughter Euphemia aged 32 > > > there is no record on Scotlands People  for this  nor in Glasgow Herald  so not certain which Robert  it refers to have not  purchased the will yet $$$ :0( > Robert Donaldson Dickson > Death: > 30 May 1874 in New Orleans, Louisiana, United States of America > > will   DICKSON  ROBERT DONALDSON        30/05/1874      SAILOR, MERCHANT SERVICE, RESIDING IN DUMFRIES          DUMFRIES SHERIFF COURT  SC15/41/15 > > > There are Thorburns of Barnkin mentioned in  the gravestones >  ie John Thorburn  tenant of Barnkin died Apr 1792 age 43  and his wife & Isabella Donaldson  who may be connected in some way  (only going by Donaldson surname ) > > Regards  Lesley in Tasmania > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >