Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not many in Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this term in the U.S. is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being influenced by its neighbor to the south (mostly). Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see," >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people consider it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. On 07/06/2011 1:40 PM, Rod Wilson wrote: > > Let us also remember that the etymology of 'Canuck' is uncertain and > that in modern Canada the term NEVER refers only to French Canadians. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canuck > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people consider it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. On 07/06/2011 1:40 PM, Rod Wilson wrote: > > Let us also remember that the etymology of 'Canuck' is uncertain and that in > modern Canada the term NEVER refers only to French Canadians. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canuck > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings to all. I've been lurking for quite a while, and following with interest the postings regarding all things Johnstone, in particular. There never seems to be any mention of "my" Johnstones who apparently hailed from Kirkmichael. My ancestors were David Johnstone (b. 1765), whose daughter Elizabeth (b. 1791) married John Burgess (b.1789). Elizabeth and J. Burgess came to the US around 1825. Thanks for any guidance in understanding the wanderings of the Johnstones- Cheers- Ann

Margaret I agree with your comments but remember that "scotch" comes best in a bottle. Perhaps "Scottish" would be a better word. Garth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 7:29 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] fwd: Operation Overlord > Cliff, > > The SDandG Highanders [Stormont Dundas and Glengarry Highland Regiment] > landed in France on D-Day. My father's first cousin was a Pipe Major of > this Regiment. The SDandGs descended from the old Glengarry Fencibles > Regiment put together by Reverend Alexander McDonell, the Big Bishop. [I > descend from his brother]. Canada has a rich 'Scotch' heritage > ....[especially 'highland' and borders] > > Margaret Cameron > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Margaret, Yes, we do have a rich history to be proud of. Sadly, too much of it is being lost in time... Cliff. "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see," >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Margaret Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] fwd: Operation Overlord Cliff, The SDandG Highanders [Stormont Dundas and Glengarry Highland Regiment] landed in France on D-Day. My father's first cousin was a Pipe Major of this Regiment. The SDandGs descended from the old Glengarry Fencibles Regiment put together by Reverend Alexander McDonell, the Big Bishop. [I descend from his brother]. Canada has a rich 'Scotch' heritage ....[especially 'highland' and borders] Margaret Cameron ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cliff, The SDandG Highanders [Stormont Dundas and Glengarry Highland Regiment] landed in France on D-Day. My father's first cousin was a Pipe Major of this Regiment. The SDandGs descended from the old Glengarry Fencibles Regiment put together by Reverend Alexander McDonell, the Big Bishop. [I descend from his brother]. Canada has a rich 'Scotch' heritage ....[especially 'highland' and borders] Margaret Cameron

Cliff, I agree with you. The only place one seems to hear this term today is in regard to a hockey team and comics....It is not a term of 'common' usage, and was a term to describe "Quebeckers." Margaret Cameron

With family in Ontario but having a summer place in the US just south of Montreal, we find that "Canuck" is not a term of endearment...Not that I agree; just saying... =/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:38 PM To: 'Rod Wilson'; 'Maisie Egger'; [email protected]; [email protected]; 'Christine Woodcock' Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 Hmmm, good thing I moved south... ;-) When I lived in Ontario to be called a Canuck and not be a French-Canadian was reason enough to defend one's honor - and I'm not that old... Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see," >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay -----Original Message----- From: Rod Wilson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 2:41 PM To: Cliff. Johnston; 'Maisie Egger'; [email protected]; [email protected]; 'Christine Woodcock' Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 Let us also remember that the etymology of 'Canuck' is uncertain and that in modern Canada the term NEVER refers only to French Canadians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> To: "'Maisie Egger'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "'Christine Woodcock'" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 > Let us remember that Canuck refers to French-Canadians. Let us not > forget the majority who were not of French descent. > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see," > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maisie > Egger > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:30 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; > Christine Woodcock > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > > > > Today, the 6th of June, it is eminently appropriate to pay tribute to > the servicemen who participated in the momentous invasion of Normandy, > France, especially those who gave their lives in that historic event. > For those who have faded recollection of that extraordinary venture > and those too young to have experienced it first hand, here is a short > synopsis excerpted from > http://www.dday.org/history/d-day-overview.html: > > *It is hard to conceive the epic scope of this decisive battle that > foreshadowed the end of Hitler's dream of Nazi domination. Overlord > was the largest air, land, and sea operation undertaken before or > since June 6, 1944. The landing included over 5,000 ships, 11,000 > airplanes, and over 150,000 service men. > > After years of meticulous planning and seemingly endless training, for > the Allied Forces, it all came down to this: The boat ramp goes down, > then jump, swim, run, and crawl to the cliffs. Many of the first young > men (most not yet 20 years old) entered the surf carrying eighty > pounds of equipment. They faced over 200 yards of beach before > reaching the first natural feature offering any protection. Blanketed > by small-arms fire and bracketed by artillery, they found themselves in hell. > > When it was > over, the Allied Forces had suffered nearly 10,000 casualties; more > than 4,000 were dead. Yet somehow, due to planning and preparation, > and due to the valor, fidelity, and sacrifice of the Allied Forces, > Fortress Europe had been breached. > > May we remember them, the "Yanks," the Canadians (Canucks), the > ANZACS, the South Africans, the Free French, Norwegians, and of course > the brave British regiments, the Royal Navy and Merchant > Navy...without the latter, and with America's help, food rationing could have been extreme. > > For those who fought to the bitter end and to those so many others who > stood as a bulwark against Fascist tyranny, we the children and > grandchildren, and even great-grandchildren of this brave generation, > are forever grateful. > > With unbound appreciation for a debt that can never be repaid. > > For more details go to > http://www.eaglespeak.us/2011/06/normandy-invasion-june-6-1944.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hmmm, good thing I moved south... ;-) When I lived in Ontario to be called a Canuck and not be a French-Canadian was reason enough to defend one's honor - and I'm not that old... Cliff. Johnston “May the best you’ve ever seen, Be the worst you’ll ever see,” >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay -----Original Message----- From: Rod Wilson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 2:41 PM To: Cliff. Johnston; 'Maisie Egger'; [email protected]; [email protected]; 'Christine Woodcock' Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 Let us also remember that the etymology of 'Canuck' is uncertain and that in modern Canada the term NEVER refers only to French Canadians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> To: "'Maisie Egger'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "'Christine Woodcock'" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 > Let us remember that Canuck refers to French-Canadians. Let us not > forget the majority who were not of French descent. > > Cliff. Johnston > “May the best you’ve ever seen, > Be the worst you’ll ever see,” > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maisie > Egger > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:30 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; > Christine Woodcock > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > > > > Today, the 6th of June, it is eminently appropriate to pay tribute to > the servicemen who participated in the momentous invasion of Normandy, > France, especially those who gave their lives in that historic event. > For those who have faded recollection of that extraordinary venture > and those too young to have experienced it first hand, here is a short > synopsis excerpted from > http://www.dday.org/history/d-day-overview.html: > > *It is hard to conceive the epic scope of this decisive battle that > foreshadowed the end of Hitler's dream of Nazi domination. Overlord > was the largest air, land, and sea operation undertaken before or > since June 6, 1944. The landing included over 5,000 ships, 11,000 > airplanes, and over > 150,000 service men. > > After years of meticulous planning and seemingly endless training, for > the Allied Forces, it all came down to this: The boat ramp goes down, > then jump, swim, run, and crawl to the cliffs. Many of the first young > men (most not yet 20 years old) entered the surf carrying eighty > pounds of equipment. They faced over 200 yards of beach before > reaching the first natural feature offering any protection. Blanketed > by small-arms fire and bracketed by artillery, they found themselves in hell. > > When it was > over, the Allied Forces had suffered nearly 10,000 casualties; more > than > 4,000 were dead. Yet somehow, due to planning and preparation, and due > to the valor, fidelity, and sacrifice of the Allied Forces, Fortress > Europe had been breached. > > May we remember them, the "Yanks," the Canadians (Canucks), the > ANZACS, the South Africans, the Free French, Norwegians, and of course > the brave British regiments, the Royal Navy and Merchant > Navy...without the latter, and with America's help, food rationing could have been extreme. > > For those who fought to the bitter end and to those so many others who > stood as a bulwark against Fascist tyranny, we the children and > grandchildren, and even great-grandchildren of this brave generation, > are forever grateful. > > With unbound appreciation for a debt that can never be repaid. > > For more details go to > http://www.eaglespeak.us/2011/06/normandy-invasion-june-6-1944.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Let us also remember that the etymology of 'Canuck' is uncertain and that in modern Canada the term NEVER refers only to French Canadians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> To: "'Maisie Egger'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "'Christine Woodcock'" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 > Let us remember that Canuck refers to French-Canadians. Let us not forget > the majority who were not of French descent. > > Cliff. Johnston > “May the best you’ve ever seen, > Be the worst you’ll ever see,” > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maisie Egger > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:30 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; > Christine Woodcock > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 > > > > > Today, the 6th of June, it is eminently appropriate to pay tribute to the > servicemen who participated in the momentous invasion of Normandy, France, > especially those who gave their lives in that historic event. For those > who have faded recollection of that extraordinary venture and those too > young to have experienced it first hand, here is a short synopsis > excerpted from > http://www.dday.org/history/d-day-overview.html: > > *It is hard to conceive the epic scope of this decisive battle that > foreshadowed the end of Hitler's dream of Nazi domination. Overlord was > the largest air, land, and sea operation undertaken before or since June > 6, 1944. The landing included over 5,000 ships, 11,000 airplanes, and over > 150,000 service men. > > After years of meticulous planning and seemingly endless training, for the > Allied Forces, it all came down to this: The boat ramp goes down, then > jump, swim, run, and crawl to the cliffs. Many of the first young men > (most not yet 20 years old) entered the surf carrying eighty pounds of > equipment. They faced over 200 yards of beach before reaching the first > natural feature offering any protection. Blanketed by small-arms fire and > bracketed by artillery, they found themselves in hell. > > When it was > over, the Allied Forces had suffered nearly 10,000 casualties; more than > 4,000 were dead. Yet somehow, due to planning and preparation, and due to > the valor, fidelity, and sacrifice of the Allied Forces, Fortress Europe > had been breached. > > May we remember them, the "Yanks," the Canadians (Canucks), the ANZACS, > the South Africans, the Free French, Norwegians, and of course the brave > British regiments, the Royal Navy and Merchant Navy...without the latter, > and with America's help, food rationing could have been extreme. > > For those who fought to the bitter end and to those so many others who > stood as a bulwark against Fascist tyranny, we the children and > grandchildren, and even great-grandchildren of this brave generation, are > forever grateful. > > With unbound appreciation for a debt that can never be repaid. > > For more details go to > http://www.eaglespeak.us/2011/06/normandy-invasion-june-6-1944.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The family chart created in 1898 by Walter MacLeod, a colleague of the Earl of Rosebery who founded the Scottish History Society and was, at one time, Prime Minister, states: "Pedigree of the Johnstons of that Ilk, in Annandale, and their Cadets of Newbie and Mylnefield A.D. 1296-1898 Note - The proofs of the following genealogy have been gathered from the following sources: the Register of the Great Seal of Scotland; Register of the Privy Seal; State papers relating to Scotland; the Border papers; Register of the Privy Council; Register of Acts and Decrees of the Lords of Council and Session Register of Sasines for Dumfriesshire; Register of Testaments of the same; Registers of the Parishes of Annan and Edinburgh; Minutes of the House of Lords in the Annandale Peerage Case; and the tradition of the family. Edinburgh March 1898 Walter MacLeod " In the upper right hand corner of the Chart are the Johnstone Coat of Arms. My family line from George Johnstone, baptised December 23rd, 1737, son of John Johnstone of Gutterbraes, spelled the name "Johnstone" [with an 'e] because this is the way the name was spelled in the family Bible published in 1698== pronounced 'John= son.' Walter MacLeod was very involved with the Register House in Edinburgh and was editor of many manuscripts. He had access to all document s and records. In a previous posting I noted that "Simon of Powdene' [Poldean] is mentioned on the 1898 Chart as being the son of James Johnstone, and brother to John Johnstone who died in 1567 and brother to Wiliam Johnstone of Newbie and Harthope and Gretna. The Scottish History Society is still in existence and Mr. Ted Cowan is the present Chairman. Margaret Cameron, Long Sault, Ontario

Let us remember that Canuck refers to French-Canadians. Let us not forget the majority who were not of French descent. Cliff. Johnston “May the best you’ve ever seen, Be the worst you’ll ever see,” >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maisie Egger Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:30 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Christine Woodcock Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 Today, the 6th of June, it is eminently appropriate to pay tribute to the servicemen who participated in the momentous invasion of Normandy, France, especially those who gave their lives in that historic event. For those who have faded recollection of that extraordinary venture and those too young to have experienced it first hand, here is a short synopsis excerpted from http://www.dday.org/history/d-day-overview.html: *It is hard to conceive the epic scope of this decisive battle that foreshadowed the end of Hitler's dream of Nazi domination. Overlord was the largest air, land, and sea operation undertaken before or since June 6, 1944. The landing included over 5,000 ships, 11,000 airplanes, and over 150,000 service men. After years of meticulous planning and seemingly endless training, for the Allied Forces, it all came down to this: The boat ramp goes down, then jump, swim, run, and crawl to the cliffs. Many of the first young men (most not yet 20 years old) entered the surf carrying eighty pounds of equipment. They faced over 200 yards of beach before reaching the first natural feature offering any protection. Blanketed by small-arms fire and bracketed by artillery, they found themselves in hell. When it was over, the Allied Forces had suffered nearly 10,000 casualties; more than 4,000 were dead. Yet somehow, due to planning and preparation, and due to the valor, fidelity, and sacrifice of the Allied Forces, Fortress Europe had been breached. May we remember them, the "Yanks," the Canadians (Canucks), the ANZACS, the South Africans, the Free French, Norwegians, and of course the brave British regiments, the Royal Navy and Merchant Navy...without the latter, and with America's help, food rationing could have been extreme. For those who fought to the bitter end and to those so many others who stood as a bulwark against Fascist tyranny, we the children and grandchildren, and even great-grandchildren of this brave generation, are forever grateful. With unbound appreciation for a debt that can never be repaid. For more details go to http://www.eaglespeak.us/2011/06/normandy-invasion-june-6-1944.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Today, the 6th of June, it is eminently appropriate to pay tribute to the servicemen who participated in the momentous invasion of Normandy, France, especially those who gave their lives in that historic event. For those who have faded recollection of that extraordinary venture and those too young to have experienced it first hand, here is a short synopsis excerpted from http://www.dday.org/history/d-day-overview.html: *It is hard to conceive the epic scope of this decisive battle that foreshadowed the end of Hitler's dream of Nazi domination. Overlord was the largest air, land, and sea operation undertaken before or since June 6, 1944. The landing included over 5,000 ships, 11,000 airplanes, and over 150,000 service men.

 After years of meticulous planning and seemingly endless training, for the Allied Forces, it all came down to this: The boat ramp goes down, then jump, swim, run, and crawl to the cliffs. Many of the first young men (most not yet 20 years old) entered the surf carrying eighty pounds of equipment. They faced over 200 yards of beach before reaching the first natural feature offering any protection. Blanketed by small-arms fire and bracketed by artillery, they found themselves in hell.

 When it was over, the Allied Forces had suffered nearly 10,000 casualties; more than 4,000 were dead. Yet somehow, due to planning and preparation, and due to the valor, fidelity, and sacrifice of the Allied Forces, Fortress Europe had been breached. May we remember them, the "Yanks," the Canadians (Canucks), the ANZACS, the South Africans, the Free French, Norwegians, and of course the brave British regiments, the Royal Navy and Merchant Navy...without the latter, and with America's help, food rationing could have been extreme. For those who fought to the bitter end and to those so many others who stood as a bulwark against Fascist tyranny, we the children and grandchildren, and even great-grandchildren of this brave generation, are forever grateful. With unbound appreciation for a debt that can never be repaid. For more details go to http://www.eaglespeak.us/2011/06/normandy-invasion-june-6-1944.html

Hi Pat It can be a problem. I was looking for two graves in Ruthwell, about two pages apart in the book, yet when found they were only one inch apart. Some books have maps, which is great, but others don't. It can help to work out when the first burial would have taken place and look for the section that might apply. Most early stones are near the church. Most graveyards have an extension added about 1875 when the act prohibiting re-using of graves was passed. Ruthwell was surveyed over 40 years ago so some stones may have been lost or are unreadable now. Best wishes Ian A McClumpha Researching Scottish Family History; please look at our website> www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Stanistreet Sent: 02 June 2011 11:40 To: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Locating grave stones Could any one advise me if it is possible to use printed MI's as a guide to locating a particular gravestone? I attempted this at Ruthwell recently and could not work out the route the recorder took. A friend and I walked along all the rows and checked to no avail and we did not have time to investigate the flat stones covered by moss & grass. As  these are early 19th century stones I appreciate the inscriptions may be lost to erosion or the stones themselves may be broken. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated Pat Stanistreet Also taking the opportunity to repost my interests: Researching in South West Scotland FLINT - All areas; KIRKPATRICK - Closeburn; PORTEOUS, WRIGHT, TAYLOR - Ruthwell; KERR - Dumfries; COPLAND - Dumfries; BLACK - Tinwald, Durisdeer; SMITH - Conheath; DALZELL/DALZIEL - Tinwald. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maisie, Thank you very much. I've found this to be very interesting as I used to live only a few miles from Davie's widow's grave. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see," >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maisie Egger Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: delanceyplace.com 6/1/11 - scots-irish come to america In today's excerpt - Scotch-Irish, also known as Scots-Irish or Ulster Scots, were among the toughest frontiersmen in American history, and included such legends as David Crockett and Andrew Jackson. They were first transplanted from Scotland to the province of Ulster in Ireland in the early 1600s by England's King James for two reasons - first as a way to remove troublesome Anglo-Scottish border raiding clans, and also to provide fighting men who could help subjugate the native Irish in Ireland. Some 200,000 then migrated to America during colonial times to escape the conflicts they faced in Ireland. They were religious dissidents - Protestants opposed to England's official Anglican religion - and they fought in England against the crown in the Glorious Revolution of 1688, they fought against the crown again in the American Revolution, they were fierce Indian fighters, and they fought against the North in the American Civil War: "The [forbears of David] Crockett came to America just as other Ulster Scots did, aboard a heaving and crowded immigrant ship. Some Ulstermen and their families, weary of warfare and religious persecution, were so desperate for free and fertile land that they paid their way by signing on as indentured servants. But first they had to survive the dangerous Atlantic crossing, which, depending on the winds, could take anywhere from three weeks to three months. Not only were the ships overloaded, but rations were short, the food vermin-ridden, and the water stagnant. The entire vessel, especially lower decks, reeked from the stench of dysentery, vomit, sweat, and rot. Every soul aboard suffered from lice infestations and a multitude of other maladies. Hunger and thirst were constant, and some passengers died by drinking saltwater or their own urine. Burial at sea was particularly difficult; survivors had to watch the shrouded corpses of loved ones cast into the ! sea. The despair and tension often erupted into brawls, even between family members. "Yet, even with all the horrors that had to be endured aboard ship, the weary and bedraggled passengers believed they had arrived in the Promised Land when the journey to American shores finally ended. Immigrant ships docked at various ports of entry, where enticing advertisements urged the new arrivals to help settle the lands opening up in the west. Philadelphia became the Scots-Irish favored port of entry, since the Pennsylvania colony, established by Quakers, appeared to welcome them. The puritanical New England colonies were less tolerant of the newcomers and had no use for either Scots or Irish. "The first of the Ulster settlements appeared at Donegal, Pennsylvania, not far from the larger town of Lancaster. Others sprang up beyond, in the rich Cumberland Valley. The Ulster Scots, mostly tenant farmers, were motivated to find a place of their own where land was cheap and they could achieve a reasonable measure of economic freedom and opportunity. The primary pattern of their western migration took them out of Pennsylvania along the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, continuing south and west into what would become Tennessee, or, as the Crocketts did, into North Carolina and then to Tennessee. "Many of the Scots-Irish migrated as whole congregations, or family groups, just as they had done with their Presbyterian ministers from Scotland to Ireland to America. The extended family unit was extremely tight-knit, and it was common for entire communities of these pioneers to migrate along the same route, stopping at the same places along the way. ... "An ethnic melange of settlers followed the Great Wagon Road and the well-trodden routes of the [frontiersman], including English, Welsh, Irish, German, Swiss, French Huguenot, and some African slaves. Most of the newcomers, however, were Scots-Irish, such as the Crocketts. Reflecting early class division in the fledgling Republic, all of them had long detested the autocratic power of the British king and resented what they considered a conspiracy to take away their God-given freedom." Author: Michael Wallis Title: David Crockett Publisher: Norton Date: Copyright 2011 by Michael Wallis Pages: 16-18, 23 David Crockett: The Lion of the West by Michael Wallis by W. W. Norton & Company Hardcover If you wish to read further: Buy Now Should you use the above link to purchase a book, delanceyplace proceeds from your purchase will benefit a children's literacy project. Delanceyplace is a not-for-profit organization. About Us Delanceyplace is a brief daily email with an excerpt or quote we view as interesting or noteworthy, offered with commentary to provide context. There is no theme, except that most excerpts will come from a non-fiction work, mainly works of history, are occasionally controversial, and we hope will have a more universal relevance than simply the subject of the book from which they came. To visit our homepage or sign up for our daily email click here To view previous daily emails click here. To sign up for our daily email click here. 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Could any one advise me if it is possible to use printed MI's as a guide to locating a particular gravestone? I attempted this at Ruthwell recently and could not work out the route the recorder took. A friend and I walked along all the rows and checked to no avail and we did not have time to investigate the flat stones covered by moss & grass. As  these are early 19th century stones I appreciate the inscriptions may be lost to erosion or the stones themselves may be broken. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated Pat Stanistreet Also taking the opportunity to repost my interests: Researching in South West Scotland FLINT - All areas; KIRKPATRICK - Closeburn; PORTEOUS, WRIGHT, TAYLOR - Ruthwell; KERR - Dumfries; COPLAND - Dumfries; BLACK - Tinwald, Durisdeer; SMITH - Conheath; DALZELL/DALZIEL - Tinwald.

In today's excerpt - Scotch-Irish, also known as Scots-Irish or Ulster Scots, were among the toughest frontiersmen in American history, and included such legends as David Crockett and Andrew Jackson. They were first transplanted from Scotland to the province of Ulster in Ireland in the early 1600s by England's King James for two reasons - first as a way to remove troublesome Anglo-Scottish border raiding clans, and also to provide fighting men who could help subjugate the native Irish in Ireland. Some 200,000 then migrated to America during colonial times to escape the conflicts they faced in Ireland. They were religious dissidents - Protestants opposed to England's official Anglican religion - and they fought in England against the crown in the Glorious Revolution of 1688, they fought against the crown again in the American Revolution, they were fierce Indian fighters, and they fought against the North in the American Civil War: "The [forbears of David] Crockett came to America just as other Ulster Scots did, aboard a heaving and crowded immigrant ship. Some Ulstermen and their families, weary of warfare and religious persecution, were so desperate for free and fertile land that they paid their way by signing on as indentured servants. But first they had to survive the dangerous Atlantic crossing, which, depending on the winds, could take anywhere from three weeks to three months. Not only were the ships overloaded, but rations were short, the food vermin-ridden, and the water stagnant. The entire vessel, especially lower decks, reeked from the stench of dysentery, vomit, sweat, and rot. Every soul aboard suffered from lice infestations and a multitude of other maladies. Hunger and thirst were constant, and some passengers died by drinking saltwater or their own urine. Burial at sea was particularly difficult; survivors had to watch the shrouded corpses of loved ones cast into the sea. The despair and tension often erupted into brawls, even between family members. "Yet, even with all the horrors that had to be endured aboard ship, the weary and bedraggled passengers believed they had arrived in the Promised Land when the journey to American shores finally ended. Immigrant ships docked at various ports of entry, where enticing advertisements urged the new arrivals to help settle the lands opening up in the west. Philadelphia became the Scots-Irish favored port of entry, since the Pennsylvania colony, established by Quakers, appeared to welcome them. The puritanical New England colonies were less tolerant of the newcomers and had no use for either Scots or Irish. "The first of the Ulster settlements appeared at Donegal, Pennsylvania, not far from the larger town of Lancaster. Others sprang up beyond, in the rich Cumberland Valley. The Ulster Scots, mostly tenant farmers, were motivated to find a place of their own where land was cheap and they could achieve a reasonable measure of economic freedom and opportunity. The primary pattern of their western migration took them out of Pennsylvania along the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, continuing south and west into what would become Tennessee, or, as the Crocketts did, into North Carolina and then to Tennessee. "Many of the Scots-Irish migrated as whole congregations, or family groups, just as they had done with their Presbyterian ministers from Scotland to Ireland to America. The extended family unit was extremely tight-knit, and it was common for entire communities of these pioneers to migrate along the same route, stopping at the same places along the way. ... "An ethnic melange of settlers followed the Great Wagon Road and the well-trodden routes of the [frontiersman], including English, Welsh, Irish, German, Swiss, French Huguenot, and some African slaves. Most of the newcomers, however, were Scots-Irish, such as the Crocketts. Reflecting early class division in the fledgling Republic, all of them had long detested the autocratic power of the British king and resented what they considered a conspiracy to take away their God-given freedom." Author: Michael Wallis Title: David Crockett Publisher: Norton Date: Copyright 2011 by Michael Wallis Pages: 16-18, 23 David Crockett: The Lion of the West by Michael Wallis by W. W. 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Helmi Kristina Falkenberg was born in Wiborg, Finland in 1904 and was married in Sakkjarvi Parish Church, Wiborg, Finland August 25, 1929 to Captain Herbert Norris Johnstone, M.N. Helmi died at the age of 58 in 1963 in Dumfries. There is no other information. Shortly after Helmi's death, Herbert Norris Johnstone married Charlotte Ireland, a cousin a few times removed, 4 Apr 1964 in Laurieknowe Church, Dumfries. Charlotte died 5 May 1992, Whitecroft Retirement Home, Carrutherstown, Annan, Dumfries. Herbert Norris Johnstone was born 6 Oct. 1903, Poplar Vale, Castle Douglas. He died 8 Mar 1971 in Duncraig, Auchencairn, Kirkcudbrightshire. It is believed that Herbert Norris Johnstone and Charlotte Ireland would have been buried "locally." Their names are inscribed on a large Hyslop family headstone in Auchencairn Cemetery, but Helmi Kristina Falkenberg's name was not added, though three Hyslop brothers who died or were lost at sea had their names inscribed. Can anyone suggest where she might be buried, either in Dumfriesshire or Kirkcudbrightshire? Perhaps her remains were returned to Finland, however. Even so, surely Herbert Norris Johnstone's first wife' name should have been inscribed on the Hyslop family headstone? I have not been able to determine yet whether Helmi Kristina Falkenberg and Herbert Norris Johnstone had children. There would be none to Charlotte Ireland as she was a spinster when she married in her senior years. Maisie

According to a family chart which I have, created in 1898 by Walter MacLeod of Edinburgh [a colleague of Earl of Roseberry who founded the Scottish History Society] who had access to documents and records at the Register House in Edinburgh, the Chart states the following: "Symon Johnston of Powdene"[Poldean} ; ancestor of Johnston of Cragoburne", etc. According to this Chart it states that Symon Johnstone was the son of James Johnstone of Johnstone who died August 1524. Would this be the one and same Symon Johnstone who settled at Poldean Farm near Moffat and was, supposedly, ancestor to the " Johnstons of Poldean"? Margaret Cameron, Long Sault, Ontario