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    1. [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: TGNHAS - The Dumfriesshire and Galloway Natural History and Antiquarian Society
    2. Sandy PITTENDREIGH
    3. Made a hash of that didn't I -- didn't even post the link. Here it is: http://www.dgnhas.org.uk/transonline.php Second go: It may be of interest to know that TGNHAS have now published their Transactions online. If you don't know that means do have a look and you will certainly find lots of very interesting historical stuff about Dumfries and Galloway. Cheers, Sandy

    06/18/2011 12:04:23
    1. [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] TGNHAS - The Dumfriesshire and Galloway Natural History and Antiquarian Society
    2. Sandy PITTENDREIGH
    3. It may be of interest to know that TGNHAS have now published their Transactions online. If you don't know that means do have a look and you will certainly find lots of very interesting historical stuff about Dumfries and Galloway. Cheers, Sandy ________________________________ From: Lesley Fiedler <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 18 June, 2011 3:05:44 Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] re Obituary for Thomas Clint 1731-1796Carlingwark Hi Maisie  is this what you were looking for ? from  archives dated 2006  originally  sent to you by Nancy  in Connecticut Terregles (FS for flat stone) 'Thos CLINT of Carlingwark d 8.12.1796 65. For honesty & probity the deceased had no superior, all who were of his acquaintance respected him while living and his two surviving sons and a daughter in testimony of their filial affection have erected this monument. Anno 1796. Also lies here Thos CLINT his son d 3.11.1790 21.' regards Lesley in Tasmania ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/18/2011 12:00:25
    1. [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] re Obituary for Thomas Clint 1731-1796Carlingwark
    2. Lesley Fiedler
    3. Hi Maisie is this what you were looking for ? from archives dated 2006 originally sent to you by Nancy in Connecticut Terregles (FS for flat stone) 'Thos CLINT of Carlingwark d 8.12.1796 65. For honesty & probity the deceased had no superior, all who were of his acquaintance respected him while living and his two surviving sons and a daughter in testimony of their filial affection have erected this monument. Anno 1796. Also lies here Thos CLINT his son d 3.11.1790 21.' regards Lesley in Tasmania

    06/18/2011 06:05:44
    1. Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 61
    2. JILL MCKECHNIE
    3. Maisie, I found your old letter in the archives, after a Google search. The MI is included.   Jill       SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE-L ArchivesArchiver> SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE> 2006-04> 1145048366 ________________________________ >From: "Maisie Egger" < [email protected]> >Subject: Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:59:26 -0700 >To the great sleuths! > >I hope I don't come across as having the nerve of a bandit in this request, but >would anyone like to offer to spend some of their credits on Scotlandspeople to >look up some links in my Clint family in the Dumfries & >Galloway/Kirkcudbrighshire/ Wigtownshire areas? > >I will pay the person the £s to do this for me as I am truly an incompetent >computer nerd. I know if I even got on to the Scotlandspeople site, I'd waste >all the time and credits without getting to where I need to go. > >This is what I found on Scotlandspeople Free Search: > >Some of the listers on the Dumfries and Galloway and Lanark sites have been >outstanding in digging into MIs and other information, but there's a missing >link that I can't figure out. > > >Here's where I've got thus far: > >(>From Nancy in Connecticut) > >Terregles >(FS for flat stone) >'Thos CLINT of Carlingwark d 8.12.1796 65. For honesty & probity the deceased >had no superior, all who were of his acquaintance respected him while living and >his two surviving sons and a daughter in testimony of their filial affection >have erected this monument. Anno 1796. Also lies here Thos CLINT his son d >3.11.1790 21.' > >Unfortunately, the names of the sons and daughter are not given. > >This is the conundrum, therefore: > >Thomas #1 born 1731: died 1796 (age 65) >(Who presumably is my great-great-great grandfather) > >Thomas #2 born 1769: died 1790 (age 21) (Presumably one of two sons) > >William Clint born 1792: died 1888 (age 96) (Thomas #1's grandson perhaps. I >don't think he can be a son.) > >Now this (second) Thomas (born 1769, died 1790) can't be William's father as he >died before William was born, 1792. Also, there's such a big gap in their ages, >surely they can't be brothers either. Something is not right here. What am I not >seeing? > > >Charles Houston (D & G) suggested that one of the two unnamed sons could be the >father of William Clint. This being so, maybe the second Thomas was William >Clint's uncle. Who was William's father, therefore? > >The name Thomas is not carried thereon down through the tree, but there are a >few Williams. This William Clint (b. 1796) is my great-great-grandfather for >sure. > >I clicked on Scotlandspeople for Free Search and saw four entries for Thomas >Clint. > > >Search Count >Old Parish Records Births & Christenings 1731 - 1796 1 >Old Parish Records Banns & Marriages 1731 - 1796 3 >Wills & Testaments 1731 - 1796 0 > > >Again, if anyone would like to pursue this, I would be most grateful as this >would save me a lot of time when (or if) I visit NRH, Edinburgh when I go home >in the summer. > >Sincere appreciation. > >Maisie > > > > ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 3:01:47 AM Subject: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 61 Today's Topics:   1. VICTOR AND ROBERTA HAIRSTONS OKLAHOMA usa ???       ([email protected])   2. Fw: Obituary for Thomas Clint 1731-1796    Carlingwark (Maisie Egger) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 06:16:32 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] VICTOR AND ROBERTA HAIRSTONS OKLAHOMA usa     ??? To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" THANKS MEG, I LAST CONTACTED VICTOR IN 1998, THAT COULD BE HIM IN 2006  APART FROM HIS WIFE ROBERTA I DON'T KNOW THE REST OF HIS FAMILY. I  KNOW HE DID RESEARCH IN SALT LAKE CITY BUT DON'T KNOW IF HE HAD a permanent home  there. There would be a lot of Hairstons in Tulsa OK as they came on the "Cherokee trail of tears to Oklahoma." The last contact I had was from the D & G FHS journal 32 July 1998  where Victor writes Member no 1989 Mr Victor E.Hairston, 4348 E.72 pl., Tulsa.Oklahoma 74136 USA. Hairstanes. Mathew Hairstanes listed as a prisoner, battle of  Preston,Lancs. England.1715.Hairstanis  Descendants of Cuthbert Hairstanis  of Over Penfillane, who were in Kirkcudbright in 1670,and in1691 in  keir,Glencairn, Dunscore,Penpoint and Holywood.Dumfries. Jimmy McPherson ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:13:15 -0700 From: "Maisie Egger" <[email protected]> Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Obituary for Thomas Clint 1731-1796     Carlingwark To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1" Diana and Sandy in the Wigtownshire list found a short obituary notice for THOMAS CLINT, born 1731 and died 8 Dec. 1796, Carlingwark, Kelton, KKB. What I am looking for, however, is a much longer, very nice obituary for this Thomas Clint about his character, personality, etc., with one word, probity, sticking in my mind.  Unfortunately, only  his namesake Thomas Clint, 1769 - 1790, Carlingwark was named, but who predeceased Thomas Clint, sr. I believe he had two sons and a daughter, but none was named. I have hunted everywhere for this fine obituary for Thomas Clint, but I can't find it.  It's probably lost in one of the computers that have gone belly-up over the years. If anyone can find it for me, I'd be most appreciative. Maisie ------------------------------ To contact the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 61 ************************************************

    06/17/2011 12:08:29
    1. [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Obituary for Thomas Clint 1731-1796 Carlingwark
    2. Maisie Egger
    3. Diana and Sandy in the Wigtownshire list found a short obituary notice for THOMAS CLINT, born 1731 and died 8 Dec. 1796, Carlingwark, Kelton, KKB. What I am looking for, however, is a much longer, very nice obituary for this Thomas Clint about his character, personality, etc., with one word, probity, sticking in my mind. Unfortunately, only his namesake Thomas Clint, 1769 - 1790, Carlingwark was named, but who predeceased Thomas Clint, sr. I believe he had two sons and a daughter, but none was named. I have hunted everywhere for this fine obituary for Thomas Clint, but I can't find it. It's probably lost in one of the computers that have gone belly-up over the years. If anyone can find it for me, I'd be most appreciative. Maisie

    06/16/2011 07:13:15
    1. [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] VICTOR AND ROBERTA HAIRSTONS OKLAHOMA usa ???
    2. THANKS MEG, I LAST CONTACTED VICTOR IN 1998, THAT COULD BE HIM IN 2006 APART FROM HIS WIFE ROBERTA I DON'T KNOW THE REST OF HIS FAMILY. I KNOW HE DID RESEARCH IN SALT LAKE CITY BUT DON'T KNOW IF HE HAD a permanent home there. There would be a lot of Hairstons in Tulsa OK as they came on the "Cherokee trail of tears to Oklahoma." The last contact I had was from the D & G FHS journal 32 July 1998 where Victor writes Member no 1989 Mr Victor E.Hairston, 4348 E.72 pl., Tulsa.Oklahoma 74136 USA. Hairstanes. Mathew Hairstanes listed as a prisoner, battle of Preston,Lancs. England.1715.Hairstanis Descendants of Cuthbert Hairstanis of Over Penfillane, who were in Kirkcudbright in 1670,and in1691 in keir,Glencairn, Dunscore,Penpoint and Holywood.Dumfries. Jimmy McPherson

    06/16/2011 12:16:32
    1. [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] VICTOR AND ROBERTA HAIRSTONS OKLAHOMA usa ???
    2. I AM LOOKING TO RESESTABLISH CONTACT WITH VICTOR HAIRSTONS OF OK USA HE IS A RENOWNED RESEARCHER OF THE NAME IN US AND SCOTLAND. See " The Hairstons an American family in Black & White" Henry Weinchek. Jimmy McPherson Stirling Scotland

    06/15/2011 03:13:20
    1. [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Irvings of Eskdale
    2. James Irvine
    3. I would like to get in touch with anyone with the surname Irving or Irvine whose ancestors came from Eskdale, view a free DNA test. The Clan Irwin Surname DNA Study has a new website at www.dnastudy.clanirwin.org With over 225 participants we are now the 70th largest surname DNA project. We have identified over 20 different genetic families using the surname in its various spellings, and within our largest such family we have recently identified 14 sub-groups. These developments have enabled us to identify the geographic origin of the paternal ancestors of 85% of the participants. New participants are always welcome - for joining instructions see www.dnastudy.clanirwin.org/joining-the-study James Irvine Study Administrator

    06/09/2011 02:07:07
    1. Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Operation Overlord, "Yankee," etc.
    2. Cliff. Johnston
    3. Well put, and spoken like a true Johnston when it comes to the pie :-) Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see," >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Johnston Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 1:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Operation Overlord, "Yankee," etc. This is only tangentially related to genealogy but the thread is already there so I hope to get this in before the administrator ends it. As I understand the meaning of "yankee," in Mexico and further south, it means someone from the US. In the southern US, it means someone from the northern US. In the northern US it means someone from New England. In New England, it means someone from Maine. In Maine, it means someone who eats pie for breakfast. Genealogically, I have ancestors from the southern colonies of North America as well as from New England, though none from Maine. Nevertheless, I will eat pie for breakfast when there is any. Joe Johnston Dodge City ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 12:39 PM Subject: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 57 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 (Robin) > 2. Re: Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 (Cliff. Johnston) > 3. Re: Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 (Rod Wilson) > 4. fwd operation overlord (Margaret) > 5. Scotch (Margaret) > 6. Re: Fw: Canucks (Leona D. Taylor) > 7. Fw: D-Day/Operation Overlord (Maisie Egger) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:28:15 -0400 > From: Robin <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all > Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. > > Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she > just referring to New Englanders? > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. > Johnston > Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM > To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not > many in Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this > term in the U.S. > is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being > influenced by its neighbor to the south (mostly). > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see," >>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people > consider it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of > Vancouver approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:35:01 -0500 > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > To: "'Robin'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am certain that you will find many here in Texas who would be absolutely > revolted at being called "Yanks". You may want to come down here and try > it > yourself ;-) Or in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, the > Carolinas, > etc.. We are proud to be Americans, but Yankees? NO! > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see," >>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all > Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. > > Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she just > referring to New Englanders? > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. > Johnston > Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM > To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not many in > Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this term in the > U.S. > is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being influenced > by > its neighbor to the south (mostly). > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see," >>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people consider > it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver > approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:43:25 -0600 > From: "Rod Wilson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > To: "Robin" <[email protected]>, > <dumfries-ga[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Re: Crazy Canucks, I know first hand that at least some US troops in > Afghanistan refer to our Canadian troops there as the Crazy Canucks, > whether > Princess Pats or Van Doos. And the usage quite emphatically is not > derogatory! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:28 AM > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > >> I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all >> Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. >> >> Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she >> just >> referring to New Englanders? >> >> Robin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. >> Johnston >> Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM >> To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June >> 1944 >> >> Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not many >> in >> Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this term in the >> U.S. >> is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being influenced >> by >> its neighbor to the south (mostly). >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> "May the best you've ever seen, >> Be the worst you'll ever see," >>>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith >> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June >> 1944 >> >> Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people >> consider >> it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver >> approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. >> >> the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >> the >> message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:58:53 -0400 > From: Margaret <[email protected]> > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] fwd operation overlord > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > RE Canuck > > Canuck is the name of a hockey team and a comic strip. I have lived in > the States and have never heard of Canadians referred to as "Canucks". > Ca'jun's is the term used for the French settlers of Louisiana. Canuck > is not in usage except, perhaps, on Wikepedia.... > > Margaret Cameron > Long Sault > Ontario > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:39:31 -0400 > From: Margaret <[email protected]> > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Scotch > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Mr. Kenneth Galbraith, a very famous economist, wrote a book named, "The > Scotch". Nineteenth century literature referred to the Highland clans as > "Scotch" [or, Irish/Erse]. The "Scotch Irish" from Ulster settled in > the southrrn States. Highland emigrants of the /eighteenth /nineteenth > century referred to themselvs as "Scotch". Perhaps, the "Scottish" > academes should take note. Maybe the drink was named for the people. > > Margaret Cameron > Long Sault > Ontario > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:55:42 -0700 > From: "Leona D. Taylor" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Canucks > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > This is a quote from a letter written by my father, Allan Taylor, to my > mother, Grace, dated Nov 2, 1944. > > "They have a son who is in the R.A.F. who was over in Canada and they > tell me the Canadians treated him very well while he was there, so now > they feel that they owe us Canucks some hospitality." > > Dad was raised on the Prairies and obviously didn't feel that Canuck was > a derisive term. > > But more importantly I seem to have missed the point about what this > discussion has to do with genealogy. > > Leona Taylor > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:39:29 -0700 > From: "Maisie Egger" <[email protected]> > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: D-Day/Operation Overlord > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > Lordy! Lordy! Whit a stramash ower the use o' Yank or Canuck in the > posting about D-Day/Operation Overlord! > > Allow me as an ancient to try to throw some light on the usage of the > terms Yank and Canuck which seem to have "wraxed" or generated much > discourse from the original message I posted about D-Day---Operation > Overlord...completely overlooking the content of the posting! > > Relying on Google we learn that "the Yanks are coming, the Yanks are > coming, the Yanks are coming over there" is from "Over There" a 1917 song > popular with United States soldiers in both world wars. It was written by > George M. Cohan during World War I. "Cohan later recalled that the words > and music to the song came to him while travelling by train from New > Rochelle to New York shortly after the U.S. had declared war against > Germany in April 1917." (Note: Nothing to do with the American Civil > War!) > This song, as well as "It's a Long Way to Tipperary", were popular > patriotic songs during the First World War. On June 29, 1936, President > Franklin D. Roosevelt awarded Cohan the Congressional Gold Medal for this > and other songs. " > > The word Yank then became the coin of the realm, so to speak, for an > American. > > More: > > "The meaning of Yankee has varied over time. In the 18th century, it > referred to residents of New England descended from the original English > settlers of the region. (Mark Twain, in the following century, used the > word in this sense in his novel A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's > Court, published in 1889.) As early as the 1770s, British people applied > the term to any person from what became the United States. In the 19th > century, Americans in the southern United States employed the word in > reference to Americans from the northern United States (though not to > recent immigrants from Europe; thus a visitor to Richmond, Virginia, in > 1818 commented, "The enterprising people are mostly strangers; Scots, > Irish, and especially New England men, or Yankees, as they are called"). > > Outside the United States, Yankee is slang for anyone from the United > States. The truncated form Yank is especially popular among Britons, and > may sometimes be considered offensive or disapproving." > > As a young lass during WWII, we would refer to the American soldiers > bunked in Glasgow as Yanks, and Canadians were oftentimes referred to as > Canucks, with no thought that either was offensive. Yes, we interchanged > Canadian and Canuck to mean a Canadian in general or a French Canadian. > It was in the context of how each was used that told the tale. > > Thesaurus: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms > Noun 1. Canuck - informal term for Canadians in general and French > Canadians in particular > French Canadian - a Canadian descended from early French settlers and > whose native language is French. > > Plus: > > ...at DePaul University... professor and linguist Craig Sirles opines: > > "I think --- Canuck --- comes from Iroquoians' term meaning 'from the > village,' Canata and Uk," said Sireles. "And that simply collapsed into > Canook or Canuck." > > Incidentally, my husband is a N.Y. Yank(ee), but he is simply referred to > as an American! I lived in Ontario, Canada for well over a year, but I > can't recall Canadians using Canuck as a nickname to refer to themselves. > Again, during WWII, oftentimes Canadians would be referred to > affectionately as Canucks. > > Usage changes, and now one no longer refers to someone from Scotland as > "Scotch." That word went out of favour, I suppose, when "Scotch" became > the country's greatest export...so a person was not inclined to go through > life labelled "Scotch," and so, not to be infra dig, Scotch is now to be > Scottish or a Scot when referring to a human. Ahem! Some people from > across the Cheviots still refer to us as the "Barbarians from the North!" > ??? > > Maisie > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 57 > ************************************************ > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/09/2011 08:31:38
    1. Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Yankees/Canucks
    2. Re: Yankees/Canucks I had read somewhere that "Yankees" came from the New England settlers naughtily referring to their Dutch-origin neighbours as "Jan Kaas" (John Cheese)

    06/09/2011 08:04:54
    1. Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Operation Overlord, "Yankee," etc.
    2. Joe Johnston
    3. This is only tangentially related to genealogy but the thread is already there so I hope to get this in before the administrator ends it. As I understand the meaning of "yankee," in Mexico and further south, it means someone from the US. In the southern US, it means someone from the northern US. In the northern US it means someone from New England. In New England, it means someone from Maine. In Maine, it means someone who eats pie for breakfast. Genealogically, I have ancestors from the southern colonies of North America as well as from New England, though none from Maine. Nevertheless, I will eat pie for breakfast when there is any. Joe Johnston Dodge City ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 12:39 PM Subject: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 57 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 (Robin) > 2. Re: Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 (Cliff. Johnston) > 3. Re: Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 (Rod Wilson) > 4. fwd operation overlord (Margaret) > 5. Scotch (Margaret) > 6. Re: Fw: Canucks (Leona D. Taylor) > 7. Fw: D-Day/Operation Overlord (Maisie Egger) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:28:15 -0400 > From: Robin <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all > Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. > > Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she just > referring to New Englanders? > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. > Johnston > Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM > To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not many in > Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this term in the > U.S. > is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being influenced > by > its neighbor to the south (mostly). > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see," >>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people consider > it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver > approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:35:01 -0500 > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > To: "'Robin'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am certain that you will find many here in Texas who would be absolutely > revolted at being called "Yanks". You may want to come down here and try > it > yourself ;-) Or in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, the > Carolinas, > etc.. We are proud to be Americans, but Yankees? NO! > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see," >>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all > Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. > > Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she just > referring to New Englanders? > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. > Johnston > Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM > To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not many in > Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this term in the > U.S. > is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being influenced > by > its neighbor to the south (mostly). > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see," >>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people consider > it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver > approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:43:25 -0600 > From: "Rod Wilson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > To: "Robin" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Re: Crazy Canucks, I know first hand that at least some US troops in > Afghanistan refer to our Canadian troops there as the Crazy Canucks, > whether > Princess Pats or Van Doos. And the usage quite emphatically is not > derogatory! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:28 AM > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > >> I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all >> Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. >> >> Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she >> just >> referring to New Englanders? >> >> Robin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. >> Johnston >> Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM >> To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June >> 1944 >> >> Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not many >> in >> Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this term in the >> U.S. >> is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being influenced >> by >> its neighbor to the south (mostly). >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> "May the best you've ever seen, >> Be the worst you'll ever see," >>>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith >> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June >> 1944 >> >> Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people >> consider >> it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver >> approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. >> >> the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >> the >> message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:58:53 -0400 > From: Margaret <[email protected]> > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] fwd operation overlord > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > RE Canuck > > Canuck is the name of a hockey team and a comic strip. I have lived in > the States and have never heard of Canadians referred to as "Canucks". > Ca'jun's is the term used for the French settlers of Louisiana. Canuck > is not in usage except, perhaps, on Wikepedia.... > > Margaret Cameron > Long Sault > Ontario > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:39:31 -0400 > From: Margaret <[email protected]> > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Scotch > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Mr. Kenneth Galbraith, a very famous economist, wrote a book named, "The > Scotch". Nineteenth century literature referred to the Highland clans as > "Scotch" [or, Irish/Erse]. The "Scotch Irish" from Ulster settled in > the southrrn States. Highland emigrants of the /eighteenth /nineteenth > century referred to themselvs as "Scotch". Perhaps, the "Scottish" > academes should take note. Maybe the drink was named for the people. > > Margaret Cameron > Long Sault > Ontario > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:55:42 -0700 > From: "Leona D. Taylor" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Canucks > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > This is a quote from a letter written by my father, Allan Taylor, to my > mother, Grace, dated Nov 2, 1944. > > "They have a son who is in the R.A.F. who was over in Canada and they > tell me the Canadians treated him very well while he was there, so now > they feel that they owe us Canucks some hospitality." > > Dad was raised on the Prairies and obviously didn't feel that Canuck was > a derisive term. > > But more importantly I seem to have missed the point about what this > discussion has to do with genealogy. > > Leona Taylor > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:39:29 -0700 > From: "Maisie Egger" <[email protected]> > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: D-Day/Operation Overlord > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > Lordy! Lordy! Whit a stramash ower the use o' Yank or Canuck in the > posting about D-Day/Operation Overlord! > > Allow me as an ancient to try to throw some light on the usage of the > terms Yank and Canuck which seem to have "wraxed" or generated much > discourse from the original message I posted about D-Day---Operation > Overlord...completely overlooking the content of the posting! > > Relying on Google we learn that "the Yanks are coming, the Yanks are > coming, the Yanks are coming over there" is from "Over There" a 1917 song > popular with United States soldiers in both world wars. It was written by > George M. Cohan during World War I. "Cohan later recalled that the words > and music to the song came to him while travelling by train from New > Rochelle to New York shortly after the U.S. had declared war against > Germany in April 1917." (Note: Nothing to do with the American Civil > War!) > This song, as well as "It's a Long Way to Tipperary", were popular > patriotic songs during the First World War. On June 29, 1936, President > Franklin D. Roosevelt awarded Cohan the Congressional Gold Medal for this > and other songs. " > > The word Yank then became the coin of the realm, so to speak, for an > American. > > More: > > "The meaning of Yankee has varied over time. In the 18th century, it > referred to residents of New England descended from the original English > settlers of the region. (Mark Twain, in the following century, used the > word in this sense in his novel A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's > Court, published in 1889.) As early as the 1770s, British people applied > the term to any person from what became the United States. In the 19th > century, Americans in the southern United States employed the word in > reference to Americans from the northern United States (though not to > recent immigrants from Europe; thus a visitor to Richmond, Virginia, in > 1818 commented, "The enterprising people are mostly strangers; Scots, > Irish, and especially New England men, or Yankees, as they are called"). > > Outside the United States, Yankee is slang for anyone from the United > States. The truncated form Yank is especially popular among Britons, and > may sometimes be considered offensive or disapproving." > > As a young lass during WWII, we would refer to the American soldiers > bunked in Glasgow as Yanks, and Canadians were oftentimes referred to as > Canucks, with no thought that either was offensive. Yes, we interchanged > Canadian and Canuck to mean a Canadian in general or a French Canadian. > It was in the context of how each was used that told the tale. > > Thesaurus: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms > Noun 1. Canuck - informal term for Canadians in general and French > Canadians in particular > French Canadian - a Canadian descended from early French settlers and > whose native language is French. > > Plus: > > ...at DePaul University... professor and linguist Craig Sirles opines: > > "I think --- Canuck --- comes from Iroquoians' term meaning 'from the > village,' Canata and Uk," said Sireles. "And that simply collapsed into > Canook or Canuck." > > Incidentally, my husband is a N.Y. Yank(ee), but he is simply referred to > as an American! I lived in Ontario, Canada for well over a year, but I > can't recall Canadians using Canuck as a nickname to refer to themselves. > Again, during WWII, oftentimes Canadians would be referred to > affectionately as Canucks. > > Usage changes, and now one no longer refers to someone from Scotland as > "Scotch." That word went out of favour, I suppose, when "Scotch" became > the country's greatest export...so a person was not inclined to go through > life labelled "Scotch," and so, not to be infra dig, Scotch is now to be > Scottish or a Scot when referring to a human. Ahem! Some people from > across the Cheviots still refer to us as the "Barbarians from the North!" > ??? > > Maisie > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 57 > ************************************************ >

    06/09/2011 07:23:45
    1. [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Scotch
    2. Margaret
    3. Mr. Kenneth Galbraith, a very famous economist, wrote a book named, "The Scotch". Nineteenth century literature referred to the Highland clans as "Scotch" [or, Irish/Erse]. The "Scotch Irish" from Ulster settled in the southrrn States. Highland emigrants of the /eighteenth /nineteenth century referred to themselvs as "Scotch". Perhaps, the "Scottish" academes should take note. Maybe the drink was named for the people. Margaret Cameron Long Sault Ontario

    06/09/2011 05:39:31
    1. [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] fwd operation overlord
    2. Margaret
    3. RE Canuck Canuck is the name of a hockey team and a comic strip. I have lived in the States and have never heard of Canadians referred to as "Canucks". Ca'jun's is the term used for the French settlers of Louisiana. Canuck is not in usage except, perhaps, on Wikepedia.... Margaret Cameron Long Sault Ontario

    06/09/2011 04:58:53
    1. [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] SCOT/SCOTCH. CANUCK/CANADIAN
    2. Tom Welch
    3. I think we have pretty completely exhausted this subject. Let us get back to things more specific to Genealogy. Thank you all, Tom Welch, Admin., Dumfries-Galloway list

    06/09/2011 04:54:22
    1. [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Johnstones of Kirkmichael
    2. RTS Friction - Carruthers
    3. I've a few JOHNSTONES from Wamphray, Poldean & Newbie no matching names to your research though Ian C <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<snip>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Dickinson Ann" <[email protected]> Greetings to all. I've been lurking for quite a while, and following with interest the postings regarding all things Johnstone, in particular. There never seems to be any mention of "my" Johnstones who apparently hailed from Kirkmichael. My ancestors were David Johnstone (b. 1765), whose daughter Elizabeth (b. 1791) married John Burgess (b.1789). Elizabeth and J. Burgess came to the US around 1825.

    06/09/2011 04:50:10
    1. [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: D-Day/Operation Overlord
    2. Maisie Egger
    3. Lordy! Lordy! Whit a stramash ower the use o' Yank or Canuck in the posting about D-Day/Operation Overlord! Allow me as an ancient to try to throw some light on the usage of the terms Yank and Canuck which seem to have "wraxed" or generated much discourse from the original message I posted about D-Day---Operation Overlord...completely overlooking the content of the posting! Relying on Google we learn that "the Yanks are coming, the Yanks are coming, the Yanks are coming over there" is from "Over There" a 1917 song popular with United States soldiers in both world wars. It was written by George M. Cohan during World War I. "Cohan later recalled that the words and music to the song came to him while travelling by train from New Rochelle to New York shortly after the U.S. had declared war against Germany in April 1917." (Note: Nothing to do with the American Civil War!) This song, as well as "It's a Long Way to Tipperary", were popular patriotic songs during the First World War. On June 29, 1936, President Franklin D. Roosevelt awarded Cohan the Congressional Gold Medal for this and other songs. " The word Yank then became the coin of the realm, so to speak, for an American. More: "The meaning of Yankee has varied over time. In the 18th century, it referred to residents of New England descended from the original English settlers of the region. (Mark Twain, in the following century, used the word in this sense in his novel A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, published in 1889.) As early as the 1770s, British people applied the term to any person from what became the United States. In the 19th century, Americans in the southern United States employed the word in reference to Americans from the northern United States (though not to recent immigrants from Europe; thus a visitor to Richmond, Virginia, in 1818 commented, "The enterprising people are mostly strangers; Scots, Irish, and especially New England men, or Yankees, as they are called"). Outside the United States, Yankee is slang for anyone from the United States. The truncated form Yank is especially popular among Britons, and may sometimes be considered offensive or disapproving." As a young lass during WWII, we would refer to the American soldiers bunked in Glasgow as Yanks, and Canadians were oftentimes referred to as Canucks, with no thought that either was offensive. Yes, we interchanged Canadian and Canuck to mean a Canadian in general or a French Canadian. It was in the context of how each was used that told the tale. Thesaurus: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms Noun 1. Canuck - informal term for Canadians in general and French Canadians in particular French Canadian - a Canadian descended from early French settlers and whose native language is French. Plus: ...at DePaul University... professor and linguist Craig Sirles opines: "I think --- Canuck --- comes from Iroquoians' term meaning 'from the village,' Canata and Uk," said Sireles. "And that simply collapsed into Canook or Canuck." Incidentally, my husband is a N.Y. Yank(ee), but he is simply referred to as an American! I lived in Ontario, Canada for well over a year, but I can't recall Canadians using Canuck as a nickname to refer to themselves. Again, during WWII, oftentimes Canadians would be referred to affectionately as Canucks. Usage changes, and now one no longer refers to someone from Scotland as "Scotch." That word went out of favour, I suppose, when "Scotch" became the country's greatest export...so a person was not inclined to go through life labelled "Scotch," and so, not to be infra dig, Scotch is now to be Scottish or a Scot when referring to a human. Ahem! Some people from across the Cheviots still refer to us as the "Barbarians from the North!" ☺☺☺ Maisie

    06/09/2011 04:39:29
    1. Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944
    2. Robin
    3. I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she just referring to New Englanders? Robin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not many in Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this term in the U.S. is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being influenced by its neighbor to the south (mostly). Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see," >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people consider it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/09/2011 04:28:15
    1. Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Canucks
    2. Leona D. Taylor
    3. This is a quote from a letter written by my father, Allan Taylor, to my mother, Grace, dated Nov 2, 1944. "They have a son who is in the R.A.F. who was over in Canada and they tell me the Canadians treated him very well while he was there, so now they feel that they owe us Canucks some hospitality." Dad was raised on the Prairies and obviously didn't feel that Canuck was a derisive term. But more importantly I seem to have missed the point about what this discussion has to do with genealogy. Leona Taylor

    06/09/2011 03:55:42
    1. Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944
    2. Cliff. Johnston
    3. I am certain that you will find many here in Texas who would be absolutely revolted at being called "Yanks". You may want to come down here and try it yourself ;-) Or in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, the Carolinas, etc.. We are proud to be Americans, but Yankees? NO! Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see," >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she just referring to New Englanders? Robin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not many in Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this term in the U.S. is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being influenced by its neighbor to the south (mostly). Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see," >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people consider it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/09/2011 03:35:01
    1. Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944
    2. Rod Wilson
    3. Re: Crazy Canucks, I know first hand that at least some US troops in Afghanistan refer to our Canadian troops there as the Crazy Canucks, whether Princess Pats or Van Doos. And the usage quite emphatically is not derogatory! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June 1944 > I'm in Ontario, and I agree with Rod & SC Smith - Canuck refers to all > Canadians & is not derogatory. See also 'Crazy Canucks' > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks. > > Maisie also referred to the 'Yanks' in her original message - was she just > referring to New Englanders? > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff. > Johnston > Sent: June-08-11 7:14 PM > To: 'SC Smith'; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Again, you are talking about a regional difference. There are not many in > Ontario who would agree with you. Granted, the use of this term in the > U.S. > is that of a blanket term. Perhaps Canada is once again being influenced > by > its neighbor to the south (mostly). > > Cliff. Johnston > "May the best you've ever seen, > Be the worst you'll ever see," >>From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC Smith > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Operation Overlord - D-Day 6 June > 1944 > > Rod is quite correct. Canuck refers to any Canadian. Some people consider > it to be derogatory, others do not. Certainly the people of Vancouver > approve of the word as the Vancouver Canucks battle for the cup. > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/09/2011 02:43:25