On my tree, I have forebears who were married in the United Presbyterian Church, Free Church of Scotland (Wee Frees). Reformed Church, Church of Scotland, Primitive Methodist, Anglican/Episcopalian Church and Roman Catholic Church, but a new one to me was a marriage in Kirkcudbrigthshire in the Antiburgher church. The anti-burgher church was just not confined to "Covenanting" country, but could be found in Midlothian and Glasgow, as examples. Maisie ----------------------------------------------- Cathedral Square Church, 1955. Known as "The Mother Antiburgher Church in Glasgow", the origins of the Cathedral Square United Presbyterian congregation lay with the congregation which walked out on the Burgher Church in Shuttle Street in 1747. The church moved in 1880 from a building in Duke Street, to a new church in Cathedral Square designed by John Honeyman (1831-1914) and built at a cost of £20,000. The congregation joined the Church of Scotland in 1929 and it became the Barony North Parish Church. In 1978 the building was acquired by the Evangelical Assembly for the Glasgow Evangelical Church The Anti-Burghers were opponents of the Burgher Oath on theological grounds. In 1733 the First Secession from the Church of Scotland resulted in the creation of the "Associate Presbytery". This church split in 1747 over the issue of the Burgher Oath, which required holders of public offices to affirm approval of the religion "presently professed in this kingdom". The issue was civil compulsion in religious affairs (which, it can be argued, can be seen partly in the context of a post-Battle of Culloden (1746) panic by the Hanoverian government), but was effectively a forerunner of the arguments over the separation of church and state. Opponents of the Burgher Oath on theological grounds became known as the Anti-Burghers - showing a distinctive independence of conviction and an unwillingness to compromise over sincerely held beliefs. The Burgher and Anti-Burgher factions thus formed rival, independent synods. Eventually both the Burghers and Anti-Burghers had further splits, the Burghers in 1798 and the Anti-Burghers in 1806. Both factions formed their own, separate "Auld Licht" (old light) and "New Licht" factions. The more Calvinistic "Auld Lichts" held to the obligations of the Solemn League and Covenant, the "New Lichts" were more theologically liberal - a notable and continuing influence in the post-1847 United Presbyterian Church of Scotland. In 1820, the New Licht Anti-Burghers and the New Licht Burghers united as the United Secession Church, which in turn united with the Relief Church in 1847 to create the United Presbyterian Church of Scotland, which united with most of the Free Church of Scotland in 1900 to create the United Free Church of Scotland, most of whom ultimately united with the Church of Scotland in 1929. The Anti-Burgher Auld Lichts became part of the United Original Secession Church in 1822, which split in 1852, one party joining in the Free Church of Scotland, the others finally reuniting with the Church of Scotland in 1956. Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Burgher

Can anyone tell me anything at all about CAMPDOUGLAS FARM, BALMAGHIE My great grandfather James CRAIG farmed there from 1840's to 1880's. Maybe someone knows who owned it (Douglas's?) and when it was built. Here's hoping Elizabeth

I rescanned the map in 2 parts and joined them together so that the entire map can now be viewed. Significant retouching was also done. Eventually I'll correct the color miss-registrations. It will be one of the best looking old maps available ;-) ENJOY J http://www.pbase.com/cjmax/image/136809195 Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see," >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay

Hi, At the bottom of the page (Cliff's text?) it says the map was made ca. 1850 - 1900 by London Virtue & Co. Interesting, just the same. Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Hutchison" <[email protected]> To: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > Thanks for sharing, Cliff - and an interesting website too. > > I would query the map as being around 1832. I would think it is 1860s at > the earliest. This is going by the railway network - Dalmellington opened > 1856, Girvan, 1860, Port Patrick1862... > > regards, > > Iain > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:33 AM > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > > >> I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and >> Wigtown, >> SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once you get to the >> image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. Click on >> “original” >> to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and read >> the print ☺ Here’s the link: >> >> http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> “May the best you’ve ever seen, >> Be the worst you’ll ever see,” >> From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I just added that. I had bought the map a couple of years ago and not done anything with it until now - lost it among all of my "stuff"...lol... Cliff. Johnston “May the best you’ve ever seen, Be the worst you’ll ever see,” >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay -----Original Message----- From: Steve McTaggart [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 7:07 PM To: Iain Hutchison; Cliff. Johnston; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted Hi, At the bottom of the page (Cliff's text?) it says the map was made ca. 1850 - 1900 by London Virtue & Co. Interesting, just the same. Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Hutchison" <[email protected]> To: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > Thanks for sharing, Cliff - and an interesting website too. > > I would query the map as being around 1832. I would think it is 1860s > at the earliest. This is going by the railway network - Dalmellington > opened 1856, Girvan, 1860, Port Patrick1862... > > regards, > > Iain > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:33 AM > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > > >> I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and >> Wigtown, SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once >> you get to the image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. >> Click on “original” >> to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and >> read the print ☺ Here’s the link: >> >> http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> “May the best you’ve ever seen, >> Be the worst you’ll ever see,” >> From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for sharing, Cliff - and an interesting website too. I would query the map as being around 1832. I would think it is 1860s at the earliest. This is going by the railway network - Dalmellington opened 1856, Girvan, 1860, Port Patrick1862... regards, Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and Wigtown, > SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once you get to the > image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. Click on “original” > to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and read > the print ☺ Here’s the link: > > http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large > > Enjoy, > > Cliff. Johnston > “May the best you’ve ever seen, > Be the worst you’ll ever see,” > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for sharing, Cliff - and an interesting website too. I would query the map as being around 1832. I would think it is 1860s at the earliest. This is going by the railway network - Dalmellington opened 1856, Girvan, 1860, Port Patrick1862... regards, Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and Wigtown, > SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once you get to the > image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. Click on “original” > to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and read > the print ☺ Here’s the link: > > http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large > > Enjoy, > > Cliff. Johnston > “May the best you’ve ever seen, > Be the worst you’ll ever see,” > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for sharing, Cliff - and an interesting website too. I would query the map as being around 1832. I would think it is 1860s at the earliest. This is going by the railway network - Dalmellington opened 1856, Girvan, 1860, Port Patrick1862... regards, Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and Wigtown, > SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once you get to the > image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. Click on “original” > to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and read > the print ☺ Here’s the link: > > http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large > > Enjoy, > > Cliff. Johnston > “May the best you’ve ever seen, > Be the worst you’ll ever see,” > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for sharing, Cliff - and an interesting website too. I would query the map as being around 1832. I would think it is 1860s at the earliest. This is going by the railway network - Dalmellington opened 1856, Girvan, 1860, Port Patrick1862... regards, Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and Wigtown, > SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once you get to the > image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. Click on “original” > to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and read > the print ☺ Here’s the link: > > http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large > > Enjoy, > > Cliff. Johnston > “May the best you’ve ever seen, > Be the worst you’ll ever see,” > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for sharing, Cliff - and an interesting website too. I would query the map as being around 1832. I would think it is 1860s at the earliest. This is going by the railway network - Dalmellington opened 1856, Girvan, 1860, Port Patrick1862... regards, Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and Wigtown, > SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once you get to the > image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. Click on “original” > to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and read > the print ☺ Here’s the link: > > http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large > > Enjoy, > > Cliff. Johnston > “May the best you’ve ever seen, > Be the worst you’ll ever see,” > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for sharing, Cliff - and an interesting website too. I would query the map as being around 1832. I would think it is 1860s at the earliest. This is going by the railway network - Dalmellington opened 1856, Girvan, 1860, Port Patrick1862... regards, Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and Wigtown, > SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once you get to the > image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. Click on “original” > to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and read > the print ☺ Here’s the link: > > http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large > > Enjoy, > > Cliff. Johnston > “May the best you’ve ever seen, > Be the worst you’ll ever see,” > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for sharing, Cliff - and an interesting website too. I would query the map as being around 1832. I would think it is 1860s at the earliest. This is going by the railway network - Dalmellington opened 1856, Girvan, 1860, Port Patrick1862... regards, Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and Wigtown, > SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once you get to the > image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. Click on “original” > to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and read > the print ☺ Here’s the link: > > http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large > > Enjoy, > > Cliff. Johnston > “May the best you’ve ever seen, > Be the worst you’ll ever see,” > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for sharing, Cliff - and an interesting website too. I would query the map as being around 1832. I would think it is 1860s at the earliest. This is going by the railway network - Dalmellington opened 1856, Girvan, 1860, Port Patrick1862... regards, Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and Wigtown, > SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once you get to the > image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. Click on “original” > to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and read > the print ☺ Here’s the link: > > http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large > > Enjoy, > > Cliff. Johnston > “May the best you’ve ever seen, > Be the worst you’ll ever see,” > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for sharing, Cliff - and an interesting website too. I would query the map as being around 1832. I would think it is 1860s at the earliest. This is going by the railway network - Dalmellington opened 1856, Girvan, 1860, Port Patrick1862... regards, Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and Wigtown, > SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once you get to the > image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. Click on “original” > to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and read > the print ☺ Here’s the link: > > http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large > > Enjoy, > > Cliff. Johnston > “May the best you’ve ever seen, > Be the worst you’ll ever see,” > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for sharing, Cliff - and an interesting website too. I would query the map as being around 1832. I would think it is 1860s at the earliest. This is going by the railway network - Dalmellington opened 1856, Girvan, 1860, Port Patrick1862... regards, Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and Wigtown, > SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once you get to the > image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. Click on “original” > to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and read > the print ☺ Here’s the link: > > http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large > > Enjoy, > > Cliff. Johnston > “May the best you’ve ever seen, > Be the worst you’ll ever see,” > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for sharing, Cliff - and an interesting website too. I would query the map as being around 1832. I would think it is 1860s at the earliest. This is going by the railway network - Dalmellington opened 1856, Girvan, 1860, Port Patrick1862... regards, Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]t.net> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and Wigtown, > SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once you get to the > image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. Click on “original” > to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and read > the print ☺ Here’s the link: > > http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large > > Enjoy, > > Cliff. Johnston > “May the best you’ve ever seen, > Be the worst you’ll ever see,” > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for sharing, Cliff - and an interesting website too. I would query the map as being around 1832. I would think it is 1860s at the earliest. This is going by the railway network - Dalmellington opened 1856, Girvan, 1860, Port Patrick1862... regards, Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff. Johnston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1832 Map Posted > I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and Wigtown, > SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once you get to the > image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. Click on “original” > to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and read > the print ☺ Here’s the link: > > http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large > > Enjoy, > > Cliff. Johnston > “May the best you’ve ever seen, > Be the worst you’ll ever see,” > From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cliff, I'm no expert but from its extensive railway network, I don't think your map is as early as 1832. Colin Edinburgh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Khan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 79 > > On 30 Jul 2011, at 08:01, [email protected] wrote: > >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. 1832 Map Posted (Cliff. Johnston) >> >> http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large > >> Enjoy, >> Cliff. Johnston > > > Am enjoying! Thank you Cliff. > > Jenny Khan > > Selkirk/Selkrig of Girthon, Anwoth, Twynolm > Johnston/Johnstone of Kelton, Castle Douglas, Carlisle, Selkirk > Relatives of Annie Bowie Johnstone of Selkirk, Forfar, Ayr > Porteous and Dalrymple > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 30 Jul 2011, at 08:01, [email protected] wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. 1832 Map Posted (Cliff. Johnston) > > http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large > Enjoy, > Cliff. Johnston Am enjoying! Thank you Cliff. Jenny Khan Selkirk/Selkrig of Girthon, Anwoth, Twynolm Johnston/Johnstone of Kelton, Castle Douglas, Carlisle, Selkirk Relatives of Annie Bowie Johnstone of Selkirk, Forfar, Ayr Porteous and Dalrymple

I’ve posted a map of the counties of Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, and Wigtown, SCOTLAND, published by London Virtue & Co. ca. 1832. Once you get to the image if you scroll down you will find “other sizes”. Click on “original” to view a much larger size on which you can see the fine details and read the print ☺ Here’s the link: http://www.pbase.com/image/136809195/large Enjoy, Cliff. Johnston “May the best you’ve ever seen, Be the worst you’ll ever see,” >From A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay