My grandson just phoned to say that he and his wife Kerri have blessed us with our sixth great-grandchild, a new little bud on the family tree. However, what was especially touching is that this perfect little boy has been named after my husband, his great-grandfather...and has been given the "old-fashioned" O.T and N.T names Joseph James (Michael's surname just happens to be Thomas, so let's hope that doesn't put the cat among the pigeons in future genealogy sleuthing!). We are indeed honoured that Joe's family name is being passed along in light of the fact that the five other great-grandchildren have "modern" names with no family history attached. Michael is back on the will! Maisie

Here's a short video I did of Sandyhills Bay, it includes a view of the Solway wind farm, this parts a bit wobbly as I didn't have my monopod with me to hold the camera steady for the close up of the wind farm.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ALDrfxBMA   Vanessa  All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/

Resending this as no reaction to 1st message. Yvette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvette MUIR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] MUIR family a brick wall, a long story > > Am getting back to the family search after a long medical lay off. > My grgr grandparents Andrew MUIR (1784-13 Mar. 1874) & Jane McJERROW > emigrated to Halifax, N.S., Canada 1821-22 after their marriage. > Possibly Andrew came earlier as the Minnigaff marriage OPR record says > Andrew MUIR of Nova Scotia & Jane McJERROW of this parish. > Andrew was caught @ age 21, by a Press gang in 1805, serving 10 years in > the R.N. (Jan. 1805- 9 Aug 1815). > As he was @ the Battle of Trafalgar we have a little more info, though he > was listed originally as MOORE with mother P. LIVINGSTONE & home of > Freetown. > Later name & hometown corrected > His Halifax, N.S. obituary says hometown was Creetown, KKD, & that he was > the last known Halifax survivor of Trafalgar. > > Following names of parents & siblings match with naming patterns of > descendants. > > From the IGI & OPR: > Andrew christened 6 Apr 1784, parents William MUIR & Euphemia McIllwraith, > Kirkmabreck KKD. > William & Euphemia married @ Anwoth Apr 1774. Lauchintyre was noted; > Children: Thomas chr. Anwoth 15 Dec 1774, Lauchintyre again noted; > Elizabeth chr 27 Jan 1771, @ Kirkmabreck & those following > William chr 7 Feb 1782 .. > Andrew > Barbara chr 4 May 1786 > How do I find out more about the bdm's for the siblings & the jobs of this > family? > Yvette, Canada without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've several female Nicholas's in my line: Nicholas (Carruthers?) of Broom/Lochmaben x John CARRUTHERS of Milne) Nichola(s) JARDINE babt. 1554 x John CARRUTHERS babt. 1545 - 1616 Nicholas MURRAY x Charles MAXWELL (d/o Charles MURRAY of Cockpool) Rgds Ian C <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<snip>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re: Nicholas as a name for girls. At one time I thought I had a Nicholas as ggg-grandmother - since then I've realized I was barking up the wrong family tree on that one. But it made me wonder if "Nicholas" for girls was pronounced the French way - with silent 's' - leading to the present day form of "Nicola".

Something I've wondered about.... Re: Nicholas as a name for girls. At one time I thought I had a Nicholas as ggg-grandmother - since then I've realized I was barking up the wrong family tree on that one. But it made me wonder if "Nicholas" for girls was pronounced the French way - with silent 's' - leading to the present day form of "Nicola". Any linguists out there with an opinion on this? Jill McKechnie

I would be grateful if anyone can suggest where I might obtain a photograph of George. He was my great grandmother's brother. Here is a summary of George from his tombstone in Closeburn. "In affectionate remembrance of George McFarlan, appointed forester and clerk of works on the Closeburn and Wallace Hall estates in 1870. Clerk to the school board in 1884. Clerk to the Parochial board, Collecter of rates, inspector of Poor and Registrar in 1886. An Elder of the Parish Church for 35 years and Session Clerk for many years died at Nethermains 4th March 1924 aged 92 years" Any suggestions appreciated. Cathy in shaky Christchurch NZ

Here's a video I took of the Urr Valley from Palnackie, most of the town consists of modern housing but I've captured the original houses on Port Road.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc2DHb08m94   Vanessa  All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/

Hello List, I would like to add to this subject: Nicholas Nevison Turner Anderson, who was born in 1836 in Durrisdeer, Dumfriesshire and who married at Glasgow in 1863, William Blackwood, the widower of my husband's ancestor Mary HENDERSON, whom he married at Sanquhar in 1842. Widowed in 1873, she then married Alexander Campbell in Muirkirk, Ayr, in 1874. Best wishes, Diana

Hi fellow listers. I too have a female Nicholas, as well as a male Evelyn, in my family tree. Cheers. Kerry.

Jill It may be of interest that a John Cunningham of Wellhill in Kirkpatrick Durham was a Church Elder in 1797. Also shown is a David Gordon of Kirklebride as an elder in 1803. Possibly some of yours? Bill Stark ----- Original Message ----- From: "JILL MCKECHNIE" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 91 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:02 AM > Subject: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 91 > > Re: Odd girls' first names > > I have a ggg-grandmother who was baptized Gordon. I first found her in the > 1841 census living in Glasgow with husband Samuel McLELLAN and daughter > Margaret Gordon McLELLAN. Gordon's first name is confirmed by her death > certificate in Liverpool in the late 1840's. > > I believe she was born in Kirkpatrick Durham, Kirkcudbright in Feb 1789- > the > daughter of John CUNNINGHAM and Mary GORDON. The parish birth record (that > I > presume refers to my Gordon), shows 5 older sisters - who must have used > up > all the usual family names for girls! Perhaps that explains why she was > given her mother's last name. Her daughter Margaret Gordon McLELLAN was > born in Castle Douglas - some support for the notion that the family > originated in Kirkcudbright. > > I'm still looking for the marriage record of Samuel and Gordon McLELLAN - > no > sign of it on the Scotlandspeople site. Any suggestions would be > appreciated! > > cheers, > Jill McKechnie > Toronto > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3848 - Release Date: 08/21/11 > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3848 - Release Date: 08/21/11

While on the topic I'd like to inquire.... My 4th g'grandmother's name was Agent Augusta Alexander, died 07 Sept 1857 in Dalbeatite. I have been told that Agent could also be known as Agnes; I have not had much success with Agnes and am a standstill tracking Agent. Any other ideas as to whom someone named name Agent could have be known? Mary Paladin Pennsylvania USA

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:02 AM Subject: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 91 Re: Odd girls' first names I have a ggg-grandmother who was baptized Gordon. I first found her in the 1841 census living in Glasgow with husband Samuel McLELLAN and daughter Margaret Gordon McLELLAN. Gordon's first name is confirmed by her death certificate in Liverpool in the late 1840's. I believe she was born in Kirkpatrick Durham, Kirkcudbright in Feb 1789- the daughter of John CUNNINGHAM and Mary GORDON. The parish birth record (that I presume refers to my Gordon), shows 5 older sisters - who must have used up all the usual family names for girls! Perhaps that explains why she was given her mother's last name. Her daughter Margaret Gordon McLELLAN was born in Castle Douglas - some support for the notion that the family originated in Kirkcudbright. I'm still looking for the marriage record of Samuel and Gordon McLELLAN - no sign of it on the Scotlandspeople site. Any suggestions would be appreciated! cheers, Jill McKechnie Toronto

Hi Steve, I did once go to Wigtown with the intention of doing a video but there was a book fair on and most of the town was covered in marques so it was pointless. I'll try and do one next time I'm in the area in the next couple of months, but it depends on the weather.   Vanessa  All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ From: Steve McTaggart <[email protected]> To: Vanessa Dixon <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 21 August 2011, 0:58 Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Portpatrick video Hi, Thank you Vanessa, a very pretty spot. Has anyone done a video of Wigtown? Cheers, Steve, Sydney, Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vanessa Dixon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:40 PM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Portpatrick video Here's a video I did of Portpatrick Harbour last week. It can also be viewed in HD just change the number in the bottom right to HD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71gWEAhX5p4 Vanessa All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I have some females named Nicholas in the south west of Scotland. I have a Maxwell in Glasgow. In East Lothian I have a female with the forename Cunningham. Guess we'll never know what she was called for short. Goes to prove we can't take anything for granted. Maybe nothing new under the son. Cheers Ella Ross Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Girls' odd first names > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maisie et al, what I know for certain is Nicholas Hyslop married David Corbet, a stocking maker. Have her on husband and son's death certificates but I can find no record of the marriage or the births of James and Mary. In 1841 he is in Kirkmahoe. She is not there. Here is transcription Piece: SCT1841/835 Place: Kirkmahoe -Dumfries-shire Enumeration District: 1 Civil Parish: Kirkmahoe Address: Crawfordland CORBET David M 48 Stockingmaker Journeyman Dumfries-shire CORBET James M 26 Stockingmaker Journeyman Dumfries-shire CORBET Mary F 21 Day Labourer Dumfries-shire DAVIDSON Mary F 80 Mother To The Corbets Dumfries-shire Later censuses find all the Corbets born in Kirkmahoe I found a Nicholas Hyslop in Crossmichael with parents in 1841 and I think I put 2 and 2 together and got 22! HYSLOP James M 51 Black Smith Outside Census County (1841) HYSLOP Isabella F 55 Outside Census County (1841) HYSLOP Nicholas F 30 Outside Census County (1841) she is too young to be mother of James. Any suggestions welcome! Kay On 20 Aug 2011, at 21:08, Maisie Egger wrote: > Now then, Kay, MY NICHOLAS MONTGOMERY, whom I show was born 1791, > was married to ROBERT HYSLOP, 1761 (big age gap!). None of their > children bore the name Nicholas, however: Grace, James Mary, > Robert, Elizabeth. > > Nicholas was born in the Cottages at Mirronhill, Hutton and Corrie, > and died 20 Feb 1838, Crossmichael. Robert Hyslop (and I am > descended from the Hyslops) was born 1761and died 1834, Urr. I am > the 3rd great-grandniece of Robert Hyslop. Don't ask me how or if > this is some sort of parallel by year relationship to your 3rd gt, > grandmother! > > It looks like you and I are somehow connected! Nicholas was related > to me through her marriage to Robert Hyslop, of course. > > I'll be interested in your comments. > > I'll run this by my super sleuth Malcolm and see if I've gummed up > the works in dates, however. > > Maisie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kay McMeekin > To: Maisie Egger ; [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Girls' odd first names > > Maisie > My 3G grandmother was Nicholas Hyslop b 1805 in Crossmichael, > Kirkcudbrightshire. At least 5 female descendants also were > Nicholas. I have a Stewart Donnan b 1836 in Wigtonshire and a > Hepburn Hamilton born ca 1780 maybe in Ayrshire or Dumfriesshire. > Her granddaughter was baptised Hepburn Rae in 1868 but it > confusingly became Hebron in later docs, maybe the way it was > pronounced. In Aberdeenshire several Gardens (pronounced Garrin!) > I find it all fascinating! > Kay > > > On 20 Aug 2011, at 19:42, Maisie Egger wrote: > >> >> >> Just a comment: >> >> For the last decade or so I've noticed in this country (USA) that a >> lot of girls have been given what used to be considered surnames >> as first names: Hunter, Mackenzie, Lindsay, (Carson as in Carson >> Cullors, author), Taylor, Bailey, etc., and so it was rather a >> surprise to find two on on my tree, Gordon Duncan (early 1800s) and >> Nicholas Montgomery (1791), with surnames as forenames (or what we >> used to say Christian names). Even for a girl to be named Nicholas >> in 1791 must have seemed unusual as the original OPR entry was >> altered from Nicola to Nicholas. Where Gordon Duncan enters the >> picture, I don't know as her mother Margaret had just a very >> commonplace name. >> >> I am sure some listers have equally distinctive names on their >> trees. Nicholas Montgomery was born in May 1791 and so she was not >> named for Saint Nicholas ~ Santa Claus (or the Dutch Sinterklaas), >> December 6. >> >> Maisie >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > Kay McMeekin > Ayrshire > > > > > > Kay McMeekin Ayrshire

Hi, Thank you Vanessa, a very pretty spot. Has anyone done a video of Wigtown? Cheers, Steve, Sydney, Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vanessa Dixon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:40 PM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Portpatrick video Here's a video I did of Portpatrick Harbour last week. It can also be viewed in HD just change the number in the bottom right to HD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71gWEAhX5p4 Vanessa All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a word to say that the forename Nicholas, as a girl's name, dates back to at least 1588 in Perth. (source: The Book of Perth, p. 181). Gordon Johnson www.kinhelp.co.uk

That is interesting!! I'll need to check what made me think she was born in Crossmichael as there are a few Nicholas Hyslops around at the time!! I'll get back to you soon! Kay On 20 Aug 2011, at 21:08, Maisie Egger wrote: > Now then, Kay, MY NICHOLAS MONTGOMERY, whom I show was born 1791, > was married to ROBERT HYSLOP, 1761 (big age gap!). None of their > children bore the name Nicholas, however: Grace, James Mary, > Robert, Elizabeth. > > Nicholas was born in the Cottages at Mirronhill, Hutton and Corrie, > and died 20 Feb 1838, Crossmichael. Robert Hyslop (and I am > descended from the Hyslops) was born 1761and died 1834, Urr. I am > the 3rd great-grandniece of Robert Hyslop. Don't ask me how or if > this is some sort of parallel by year relationship to your 3rd gt, > grandmother! > > It looks like you and I are somehow connected! Nicholas was related > to me through her marriage to Robert Hyslop, of course. > > I'll be interested in your comments. > > I'll run this by my super sleuth Malcolm and see if I've gummed up > the works in dates, however. > > Maisie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kay McMeekin > To: Maisie Egger ; [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Girls' odd first names > > Maisie > My 3G grandmother was Nicholas Hyslop b 1805 in Crossmichael, > Kirkcudbrightshire. At least 5 female descendants also were > Nicholas. I have a Stewart Donnan b 1836 in Wigtonshire and a > Hepburn Hamilton born ca 1780 maybe in Ayrshire or Dumfriesshire. > Her granddaughter was baptised Hepburn Rae in 1868 but it > confusingly became Hebron in later docs, maybe the way it was > pronounced. In Aberdeenshire several Gardens (pronounced Garrin!) > I find it all fascinating! > Kay > > > On 20 Aug 2011, at 19:42, Maisie Egger wrote: > >> >> >> Just a comment: >> >> For the last decade or so I've noticed in this country (USA) that a >> lot of girls have been given what used to be considered surnames >> as first names: Hunter, Mackenzie, Lindsay, (Carson as in Carson >> Cullors, author), Taylor, Bailey, etc., and so it was rather a >> surprise to find two on on my tree, Gordon Duncan (early 1800s) and >> Nicholas Montgomery (1791), with surnames as forenames (or what we >> used to say Christian names). Even for a girl to be named Nicholas >> in 1791 must have seemed unusual as the original OPR entry was >> altered from Nicola to Nicholas. Where Gordon Duncan enters the >> picture, I don't know as her mother Margaret had just a very >> commonplace name. >> >> I am sure some listers have equally distinctive names on their >> trees. Nicholas Montgomery was born in May 1791 and so she was not >> named for Saint Nicholas ~ Santa Claus (or the Dutch Sinterklaas), >> December 6. >> >> Maisie >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > Kay McMeekin > Ayrshire > > > > > > Kay McMeekin Ayrshire

Maisie My 3G grandmother was Nicholas Hyslop b 1805 in Crossmichael, Kirkcudbrightshire. At least 5 female descendants also were Nicholas. I have a Stewart Donnan b 1836 in Wigtonshire and a Hepburn Hamilton born ca 1780 maybe in Ayrshire or Dumfriesshire. Her granddaughter was baptised Hepburn Rae in 1868 but it confusingly became Hebron in later docs, maybe the way it was pronounced. In Aberdeenshire several Gardens (pronounced Garrin!) I find it all fascinating! Kay On 20 Aug 2011, at 19:42, Maisie Egger wrote: > > > Just a comment: > > For the last decade or so I've noticed in this country (USA) that a > lot of girls have been given what used to be considered surnames as > first names: Hunter, Mackenzie, Lindsay, (Carson as in Carson > Cullors, author), Taylor, Bailey, etc., and so it was rather a > surprise to find two on on my tree, Gordon Duncan (early 1800s) and > Nicholas Montgomery (1791), with surnames as forenames (or what we > used to say Christian names). Even for a girl to be named Nicholas > in 1791 must have seemed unusual as the original OPR entry was > altered from Nicola to Nicholas. Where Gordon Duncan enters the > picture, I don't know as her mother Margaret had just a very > commonplace name. > > I am sure some listers have equally distinctive names on their > trees. Nicholas Montgomery was born in May 1791 and so she was not > named for Saint Nicholas ~ Santa Claus (or the Dutch Sinterklaas), > December 6. > > Maisie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message Kay McMeekin Ayrshire

Now then, Kay, MY NICHOLAS MONTGOMERY, whom I show was born 1791, was married to ROBERT HYSLOP, 1761 (big age gap!). None of their children bore the name Nicholas, however: Grace, James Mary, Robert, Elizabeth. Nicholas was born in the Cottages at Mirronhill, Hutton and Corrie, and died 20 Feb 1838, Crossmichael. Robert Hyslop (and I am descended from the Hyslops) was born 1761and died 1834, Urr. I am the 3rd great-grandniece of Robert Hyslop. Don't ask me how or if this is some sort of parallel by year relationship to your 3rd gt, grandmother! It looks like you and I are somehow connected! Nicholas was related to me through her marriage to Robert Hyslop, of course. I'll be interested in your comments. I'll run this by my super sleuth Malcolm and see if I've gummed up the works in dates, however. Maisie ----- Original Message ----- From: Kay McMeekin To: Maisie Egger ; [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: Girls' odd first names Maisie My 3G grandmother was Nicholas Hyslop b 1805 in Crossmichael, Kirkcudbrightshire. At least 5 female descendants also were Nicholas. I have a Stewart Donnan b 1836 in Wigtonshire and a Hepburn Hamilton born ca 1780 maybe in Ayrshire or Dumfriesshire. Her granddaughter was baptised Hepburn Rae in 1868 but it confusingly became Hebron in later docs, maybe the way it was pronounced. In Aberdeenshire several Gardens (pronounced Garrin!) I find it all fascinating! Kay On 20 Aug 2011, at 19:42, Maisie Egger wrote: Just a comment: For the last decade or so I've noticed in this country (USA) that a lot of girls have been given what used to be considered surnames as first names: Hunter, Mackenzie, Lindsay, (Carson as in Carson Cullors, author), Taylor, Bailey, etc., and so it was rather a surprise to find two on on my tree, Gordon Duncan (early 1800s) and Nicholas Montgomery (1791), with surnames as forenames (or what we used to say Christian names). Even for a girl to be named Nicholas in 1791 must have seemed unusual as the original OPR entry was altered from Nicola to Nicholas. Where Gordon Duncan enters the picture, I don't know as her mother Margaret had just a very commonplace name. I am sure some listers have equally distinctive names on their trees. Nicholas Montgomery was born in May 1791 and so she was not named for Saint Nicholas ~ Santa Claus (or the Dutch Sinterklaas), December 6. Maisie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Kay McMeekin Ayrshire