Desmond: I have a Robert RIDDICK who married a Mary Jane BURGESS in 1911 and had two daughters, Mary Burgess RIDDICK and Ada Burgess RIDDICK, born about 1912 and 1915 respectively. Bill Martin Ontario Canada

Hi Desmond. I have Martha Kerr married to James Riddick, she was my gg grandfathers sister, Daughter of James Kerr and Sarah Phillips Pattie. Let me know if i can help ? Regards Allan Lindsay Stranraer Scotland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Desmond McDowell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:01 PM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Riddick Connection > Hello List > I am looking to connect to anyone with the name Riddick, possible > connection > to Crosbie and Kerr Family Trees from the Dumfries area > > Thank you > Desmond > Ontario > Canada > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List I am looking to connect to anyone with the name Riddick, possible connection to Crosbie and Kerr Family Trees from the Dumfries area Thank you Desmond Ontario Canada

Re the following links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fztYPGMrtkI&feature=youtu.be>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fztYPGMrtkI&feature=youtu.be http://scottishgenealogytipsntricks.blogspot.com/2011/11/british-newspaper-archive-is-live.htmlht www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk -------------------------------- Nivard Ovington, who is one of those generous volunteer researchers on the Lanark list, offered the following comments. Maisie -------------------------------- Hi Maisie & all The £6 odds is actually 1p off £7 and gives 48 hours and buys enough credits for 100 pages or there is a £30, 30 day option (more credits) Or there is a yearly subscription (unlimited but fair usage policy?) But as many of the papers on this new database are also on the Gale 19th Century Newspapers, and they are available for free for all Australian Citizens and many in the UK who may have a subscription with their Library it pays to check there first Also I notice quite a few notices that appear in the Gazette's, also free Many stories are shared around so its also worth checking the Australian and New Zealand online papers, both free Just a thought before spending your hard earned on the new site Also worth noting that there are many duplications of the same story across the Country so worth making sure you are not wasting credits downloading the same story in a different newspaper The OCR is on this new site is pretty dire so there must be many words missed completely in the free searches so just because you don't find something does not mean its not there Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fztYPGMrtkI&feature=youtu.be>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fztYPGMrtkI&feature=youtu.be http://scottishgenealogytipsntricks.blogspot.com/2011/11/british-newspaper-archive-is-live.htmlht www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk Maisie

Thank you to all who sent me the information on my location. Regards Desmond -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: November-28-11 3:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 130 Today's Topics: 1. Location Help. (Desmond McDowell) 2. Re: Location Help. (Irene Butcher) 3. McGRADYs of Stoneykirk (Sue Taylor)

Hoping sks can help my friend who has started to research McGRADY ancestors of Stoneykirk, the family has a link with High Mye. Unfortunately my family history research experience is restricted to England so I'm limited in how much I can help her - although we are both very willing to learn :-). 1. She has a copy of the entry for the 1823 Stoneykirk Banns for William McGRADDIE and Helen BLAINEY, "both in this Parish were enrolled for proclamation of Banns three times first Lord's Day.". Where can she find the Parish Records for this marriage - preferable on-line? 2. William MCGRADY / McGRADDIE (and other variants) according to various census was was born in Ireland . Are there any records which may record Williams origins, apart from the parish record for his marriage to Helen BLAINEY? According to various census: William was bc 1781 - 1798, Ireland and Helen/Ellen was bc 1804, Portpatrick, Wigtownshire (or Stoneykirk). 3. Is there anyone on the list research these lines? We will be very gratefully for any suggestions. Regards, Sue

Hi Desmond, I think you might find it is Hempland Hill, Torthorwald. If you put the postcode DG1 3PP in streetmap.co.uk you will see 'Tinwald House' north and slightly west of Hemplands; the actual Hill is across High Road from this house. Maybe they married in the House? Or one of the few houses along the High Road? Tinwald Church is along the road to the north west, and Torthorwald Church to the south east. Hope some of this makes sense! You can see why my husband does the navigating when we're on holiday ;-) Best wishes, Irene B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Desmond McDowell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:02 PM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Location Help. > Can anyone advise the location of these two places, Kempland-hill and > Dalestone Bank

Can anyone advise the location of these two places, Kempland-hill and Dalestone Bank I have a Samuel Dale & Hanna Rea. Married in 1869: Location: Kempland-Hill, Torthorwald, Dumfries Death of Hanna Rea 1894 who died at Dalestone Bank, Greenbrea, Dumfries. Thank you Desmond

Yes, I have a Scottish couple who eloped and were married in England! however I looked quickly for your names and didn't see them. Jeanette > Did you try England. I have one family where for several generations > the children are born in Scotland but they were married in England > > Sheila > > On 11/24/2011 2:33 PM, Clifford Johnston wrote: >> Ray, >> >> Obviously greed knows no boundaries. I'd say that based on the history >> of some of the Vicars that there is more than an even chance that this is >> what happened. I know that it is frustrating to not to be able to find >> them as I have been trying to find a marriage for my grandfather in >> Scotland for decades - still no success... >> >> Good hunting, >> >> Cliff. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Tempest >> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 2:32 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Still hoping >> >> Hello again >> I’m still trying to solve the marriage problem with my >> grand parents. >> Peter TEMPEST and Margaret THOMPSON about 1895. Lots of people have >> replied with negative answers . >> So I was wondering would it be possible for them to have married at >> Gretna Green and the minister not to have registered it You see Grandpa >> was born in Birmingham in 1869 not registered then Baptised with his >> sister in 1872 and the Vicar didn’t register that either I found that out >> because the BMSGH which I’m a member have a database for St. Matins >> church Birmingham and I then went to our registry office and a lovely >> lady there explained how the clergy carried out the ceremony and then >> pocketed the money without registering. >> So Peter TEMPEST born 1869 Birmingham >> Margaret THOMPSON born 1875 Maryport >> Married Gretna Green 1895/6 >> Ray T >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Its possible that they never married, when registering children you didn't have to prove you were married.   Vanessa  All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Tempest <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011, 20:31 Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Still hoping Hello again                   I’m still trying to solve the marriage problem with my grand parents. Peter TEMPEST and Margaret THOMPSON about 1895. Lots of people have replied with negative answers . So I was wondering would it be possible for them to have married at Gretna Green and the minister not to have registered it  You see Grandpa was born in Birmingham in 1869 not registered then Baptised with his sister in 1872 and the Vicar didn’t register that either I found that out because the BMSGH which I’m a member have a database for St. Matins church Birmingham and I then went to our registry office and a lovely lady there explained how the clergy carried out the ceremony and then pocketed the money without registering.  So Peter TEMPEST born 1869 Birmingham Margaret THOMPSON born 1875 Maryport  Married Gretna Green 1895/6   Ray T ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ray Although English registration began in 1837 it was not compulsory until around 1872. The Scottish system was statutory from the beginning in 1855. In Scotland, it was legal to marry ' by declaration in the presence of witnesses' until 30th June 1940. In Gretna, the 'priest' would advise his clients to register the marriage but few did. There are records for most of the Gretna Green marriages but many married in other places. If they had children born in Scotland then the birth certificates come in useful as they state place and date of parents marriage. Best wishes Ian A McClumpha Researching Scottish Family History; please look at our website> www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Tempest Sent: 24 November 2011 20:32 To: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Still hoping Hello again I’m still trying to solve the marriage problem with my grand parents. Peter TEMPEST and Margaret THOMPSON about 1895. Lots of people have replied with negative answers . So I was wondering would it be possible for them to have married at Gretna Green and the minister not to have registered it You see Grandpa was born in Birmingham in 1869 not registered then Baptised with his sister in 1872 and the Vicar didn’t register that either I found that out because the BMSGH which I’m a member have a database for St. Matins church Birmingham and I then went to our registry office and a lovely lady there explained how the clergy carried out the ceremony and then pocketed the money without registering. So Peter TEMPEST born 1869 Birmingham Margaret THOMPSON born 1875 Maryport Married Gretna Green 1895/6 Ray T ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again I’m still trying to solve the marriage problem with my grand parents. Peter TEMPEST and Margaret THOMPSON about 1895. Lots of people have replied with negative answers . So I was wondering would it be possible for them to have married at Gretna Green and the minister not to have registered it You see Grandpa was born in Birmingham in 1869 not registered then Baptised with his sister in 1872 and the Vicar didn’t register that either I found that out because the BMSGH which I’m a member have a database for St. Matins church Birmingham and I then went to our registry office and a lovely lady there explained how the clergy carried out the ceremony and then pocketed the money without registering. So Peter TEMPEST born 1869 Birmingham Margaret THOMPSON born 1875 Maryport Married Gretna Green 1895/6 Ray T

Did you try England. I have one family where for several generations the children are born in Scotland but they were married in England Sheila On 11/24/2011 2:33 PM, Clifford Johnston wrote: > Ray, > > Obviously greed knows no boundaries. I'd say that based on the history of some of the Vicars that there is more than an even chance that this is what happened. I know that it is frustrating to not to be able to find them as I have been trying to find a marriage for my grandfather in Scotland for decades - still no success... > > Good hunting, > > Cliff. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Tempest > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 2:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Still hoping > > Hello again > I’m still trying to solve the marriage problem with my grand parents. > Peter TEMPEST and Margaret THOMPSON about 1895. Lots of people have replied with negative answers . > So I was wondering would it be possible for them to have married at Gretna Green and the minister not to have registered it You see Grandpa was born in Birmingham in 1869 not registered then Baptised with his sister in 1872 and the Vicar didn’t register that either I found that out because the BMSGH which I’m a member have a database for St. Matins church Birmingham and I then went to our registry office and a lovely lady there explained how the clergy carried out the ceremony and then pocketed the money without registering. > So Peter TEMPEST born 1869 Birmingham > Margaret THOMPSON born 1875 Maryport > Married Gretna Green 1895/6 > Ray T > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ray, Obviously greed knows no boundaries. I'd say that based on the history of some of the Vicars that there is more than an even chance that this is what happened. I know that it is frustrating to not to be able to find them as I have been trying to find a marriage for my grandfather in Scotland for decades - still no success... Good hunting, Cliff. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Tempest Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 2:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Still hoping Hello again I’m still trying to solve the marriage problem with my grand parents. Peter TEMPEST and Margaret THOMPSON about 1895. Lots of people have replied with negative answers . So I was wondering would it be possible for them to have married at Gretna Green and the minister not to have registered it You see Grandpa was born in Birmingham in 1869 not registered then Baptised with his sister in 1872 and the Vicar didn’t register that either I found that out because the BMSGH which I’m a member have a database for St. Matins church Birmingham and I then went to our registry office and a lovely lady there explained how the clergy carried out the ceremony and then pocketed the money without registering. So Peter TEMPEST born 1869 Birmingham Margaret THOMPSON born 1875 Maryport Married Gretna Green 1895/6 Ray T ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have this from the University of Glasgow's Dumfries campus: "We would like to draw your attention to the University of Glasgow's School of Interdisciplinary Studies' series of lectures in New Galloway, at the CatStrand this winter, 'Exploring Galloway through History and Literature'. There are three lectures still to come--Lizanne Henderson on 'Witches and Charmers of Galloway' on the 23rd of November at 7 pm; Tom Pow on 'Thomas Watling, Dumfries Convict Artist' on the 30th of November at 2 pm, and Margaret Elphinstone on 'Fictional Galloway' on 7th December at 2 pm. Lectures cost £8 at the door but if you are planning to attend, please contact Phillipa McNeill on [email protected] We hope that you will enjoy attending these, along with others within our events' programme (which is accessible on-line at http://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/interdisciplinary/) and please feel free to pass on this information to your friends and colleagues." The brochure can be accessed at: http://www.gla.ac.uk/media/media_212282_en.pdf Iain

List,        Recently I received a few pages from the cemetery booklet for Troqueer Cemetery, minus the legend that might tell what I want to know.        I noticed that some are numbered such as: 206a, or 212b.        On the map are the location of the stone, designated by the number.  In the listings are 208, of robert Welsh and family, and 209 of Lieut. Col. Geo. Maxwell and family.  On the map is listed 208-9.  Does this mean that 208 and 209 are on the same stone?        Likewise, In the listings are 210, Richard Howat and family, and 211, Homer Cowan and family.  Does this imply that 210 and 211 are on the same stone?  There are no 209, nor 209, nor 211 designated on the map.   Thanks,   Marc Archer Lake Odessa, MI

Hello Mary Sadly, not the same Whitehill Cottages I'm afraid Best wishes David -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mary amelia paladin Sent: 09 November 2011 15:51 To: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Whitehill Cottages Thanks to those of you who so kindly, and quickly, responded to my inquiry. I had no idea there were so many Whitehill Cottage(s)... According to the birth records I obtained on Scotland's People my g'mother, Mary Campbell Mcdonald was born 17 Apr 1898 at Whitehill Cottages in the parish of Hoddam, County of Dumfries; recorded 4 May 1898 in Ecclefechan. On the 1901 census she is recorded at the home of her g'parents, James and Sarah Smith Campbell in Mouswald but her sister (Isabella b: 1899) is recorded as Hoddam. I am assuming that my g'mother was visiting her g'parents at the time of the census. David, if this sounds to you as if my family was, indeed, at the same Whitehill Cottages as your g'g'father, I would love to have a photo. Thanks much to all, again. Mary Paladin PA; USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to those of you who so kindly, and quickly, responded to my inquiry. I had no idea there were so many Whitehill Cottage(s)... According to the birth records I obtained on Scotland's People my g'mother, Mary Campbell Mcdonald was born 17 Apr 1898 at Whitehill Cottages in the parish of Hoddam, County of Dumfries; recorded 4 May 1898 in Ecclefechan. On the 1901 census she is recorded at the home of her g'parents, James and Sarah Smith Campbell in Mouswald but her sister (Isabella b: 1899) is recorded as Hoddam. I am assuming that my g'mother was visiting her g'parents at the time of the census. David, if this sounds to you as if my family was, indeed, at the same Whitehill Cottages as your g'g'father, I would love to have a photo. Thanks much to all, again. Mary Paladin PA; USA

Hi Mary Further to David's answer, there are Whitehlls in Hutton & Corrie parish, Hoddam parish, Kirkmahoe parish, (quite likely to be the one you want)and Middliebie parish. There are probably others that have disappeared. Whitehills in Castle-Douglas would not be yours, if the address was Dumfries. Best wishes Ian A McClumpha Researching Scottish Family History; please look at our website> www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mary amelia paladin Sent: 08 November 2011 18:47 To: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] whitehill cottages While trying to find pics/videos of places my ancestors worked/lived I came upon a Whitehill Cottage, Castle Douglas, which is noted as a holiday cottage. Perhaps those of you familiar with the area can help me... My question is: Could this be one in the same, or part of, Whitehill Cottages, Dumfries in which farm workers may have lived? My g'mother, Mary Campbell Mcdonald was born at Whitehill Cottages, Dumfries in April of 1898. Her family members were all labourers. Thanks so much! Mary Paladin PA; USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Mary There is a Whitehill Farm on the borders of Sanquhar and Kirkconnel, which is in Dumfries. If you check the registration district for Mary McDonald' birthand the registration district is one of these, then this is likely the correct location. Myy great grandfather, Samuel Hiddleston, lived in Whitehill Cottages on this farm, where he was a ploughman and later foreman. He died in 1903, so was more than likely there at the same time as your folk. The census would help to confirm this. His children were all registered in Kirkconnel. I have a photo of wWhitehill Cottages, if this proves to be your location I can send it to you. Let me know. Regards David (Hiddleston) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mary amelia paladin Sent: 08 November 2011 18:47 To: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] whitehill cottages While trying to find pics/videos of places my ancestors worked/lived I came upon a Whitehill Cottage, Castle Douglas, which is noted as a holiday cottage. Perhaps those of you familiar with the area can help me... My question is: Could this be one in the same, or part of, Whitehill Cottages, Dumfries in which farm workers may have lived? My g'mother, Mary Campbell Mcdonald was born at Whitehill Cottages, Dumfries in April of 1898. Her family members were all labourers. Thanks so much! Mary Paladin PA; USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message