I am looking for the family of Jean/Jane Johnston(e) b. ab. 1748 in Moffat, d. 1814, married James Edgar ab. 1778. Her parents may be James Johnstone, Wright in Moffat, and Mary Ewart. Their son, John, had a daughter Jessie/Janet Edgar who married George Johstone b. 1830 in Moffat, d. 1913 in Otago, NZ. George Johnstone and Jessie Edgar had a son George Carruthers Johnstone, suggesting that his grandmother may have been a Carruthers. Anyone? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 8:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 145 Today's Topics: 1. Re: JOHNSTONE (Judy Jeffrey) 2. Re: JOHNSTONE (Clifford Johnston) 3. JOHNSTONS OF MOATLAND, DUNSCORE (tom) 4. JOHNSTONE - CARRUTHERS (Dorothy Riegel) 5. Re: JOHNSTONE (Trich) 6. Re: JOHNSTONE (Clifford Johnston) 7. Re: JOHNSTONE - CARRUTHERS (Clifford Johnston) 8. Johnstone in Lockerbie (Roland & Alison deCaen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:34:27 -0000 From: "Judy Jeffrey" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE To: "'Roland & Alison deCaen'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" <Is anyone researching the Johnstone family from Moffatt circa early 1800s late 1700s> Alison Hi Alison, Although my Johnstones are a little earlier I shall tell you who I am researching as there may be others out there researching the same. My nearest Johnstone is Sophia Johnstone c1715 b Kirkpatrick Juxta married George Carruthers 1733 Her Parents David Johnstone c1692 Beattock death 1750 Kirkpatrick Juxta and Jean Copland. His parents ? David Johnstone death 1705 Sophia's siblings are Rachael Johnstone died 1748 Margaret Johnstone David Johnstone bJun 1724 Beattock I believe Beattock is very close to Moffat. Is anyone else researching this family or knows anything about them? Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2108/4084 - Release Date: 12/16/11 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:46:28 -0600 From: "Clifford Johnston" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE To: "'Judy Jeffrey'" <[email protected]>, "'Roland & Alison deCaen'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Judy, Very interesting as we have found other marriages between the Poldean Johnston/es and the Carruthers. I'll keep your information to see if we can find a fit down the road :-) Cliff. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Judy Jeffrey Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 11:34 AM To: 'Roland & Alison deCaen'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE <Is anyone researching the Johnstone family from Moffatt circa early 1800s late 1700s> Alison Hi Alison, Although my Johnstones are a little earlier I shall tell you who I am researching as there may be others out there researching the same. My nearest Johnstone is Sophia Johnstone c1715 b Kirkpatrick Juxta married George Carruthers 1733 Her Parents David Johnstone c1692 Beattock death 1750 Kirkpatrick Juxta and Jean Copland. His parents ? David Johnstone death 1705 Sophia's siblings are Rachael Johnstone died 1748 Margaret Johnstone David Johnstone bJun 1724 Beattock I believe Beattock is very close to Moffat. Is anyone else researching this family or knows anything about them? Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2108/4084 - Release Date: 12/16/11 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:37:13 -0000 From: "tom" <[email protected]> Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONS OF MOATLAND, DUNSCORE To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am currently trying to prove a connection between two John Johnstons, my believe (hope) is that they are the same person: John Johnston (1) eldest son of Thomas Johnston and Mary McMurdo of Moatland, Dunscore in the parish of Glencairn. Thomas was born Abt 1760, married Mary McMurdo on 30th December 1785, and died on 1st December 1833 aged 73 and is interred in Dunscore Village Cemetery. John (1) was born Abt 1786, died 1850 aged 65 in Crocketford in the Parish of Kirkpatrick Durham, Kirkcudbrightshire and is interred in Dunscore Village Cemetery along with his father Thomas. John's (1) sister Elizabeth married James Dun of Beoch, in the Parish of Irongray, two or three miles from Crocketford. John (2) married Helen Duff and had ten children, seven of whom were born in Dunscore with the remaining three being born in the Parish of Irongray. The 1841 Census shows John(2) and Helen living at Hillhead in the Parish of Irongray, the neighbouring farm to Meikle Beoch, with Elizabeth and James Dunn living in Meikle Beoch. The 1851 Census shows Helen and her family (minus John(2)) living in Newhouse, Crocketford in the Parish of Kirkpatrick Durham. Helen was born in Croalchaple, Closeburn, Dumfriesshire on 23rd August 1789 and died on 1st January 1879 in Newhouse, Crocketford aged 90 years and is interred in Kirkpatrick Durham Cemetery. Can anyone help me unravel this mystery? ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:22:58 -0800 (PST) From: Dorothy Riegel <[email protected]> Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE - CARRUTHERS To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My great great grandparents were James Johnstone and Margaret Carruthers.? They both died in Kirkmichael before 1900.? Anyone have them on their family tree? Dorothy (Wood) Riegel Dorothy Riegel??? ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:23:54 +1300 From: "Trich" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have a James JOHNSTONE, born abt 1875, married my Annie Brown DICKSON 1897 ... (I haven't searched for any children to them as yet - Robert DICKSON's brother William Gibson DICKSON 1825-1887 NZ is my line) regards, Trich Devescovi Westport, NZ Image Extract 1 1897 JOHNSTONE JAMES DICKSON ANNIE BROWN KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/09 0265 James Johnstone, (signed) railway signalman, bachelor, age 22, usual residence 7 London House, Main Street, Wishaw, son of Thomas Johnstone, railway guard (deceased) and Jane Johnstone, maiden surname Hyslop (deceased), married 25 June 1897 at 236 Great Western Road, Glasgow, after Banns and Publication according to the Forms of the Free Church of Scotland, to Annie Brown Dickson (signed) spinster, age 27, usual residence 38 St Clair Street, Glasgow, daughter of Robert Dickson, retired dairyman, and Helen Dickson, maiden surname Houston, Minister James Barr (signed) assisted by Adam Renwick (signed), witnesses Wm J Campbell and M Houston, registered 28 June 1897 at Glasgow, Wm Campbell, asst registrar. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:46:18 -0600 From: "Clifford Johnston" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE To: "'Trich'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Trish, The "e" is important as we've found that all of ours had it back in Scotland. I'll file your information also. Thank you. Cliff. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Trich Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE I have a James JOHNSTONE, born abt 1875, married my Annie Brown DICKSON 1897 ... (I haven't searched for any children to them as yet - Robert DICKSON's brother William Gibson DICKSON 1825-1887 NZ is my line) regards, Trich Devescovi Westport, NZ Image Extract 1 1897 JOHNSTONE JAMES DICKSON ANNIE BROWN KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/09 0265 James Johnstone, (signed) railway signalman, bachelor, age 22, usual residence 7 London House, Main Street, Wishaw, son of Thomas Johnstone, railway guard (deceased) and Jane Johnstone, maiden surname Hyslop (deceased), married 25 June 1897 at 236 Great Western Road, Glasgow, after Banns and Publication according to the Forms of the Free Church of Scotland, to Annie Brown Dickson (signed) spinster, age 27, usual residence 38 St Clair Street, Glasgow, daughter of Robert Dickson, retired dairyman, and Helen Dickson, maiden surname Houston, Minister James Barr (signed) assisted by Adam Renwick (signed), witnesses Wm J Campbell and M Houston, registered 28 June 1897 at Glasgow, Wm Campbell, asst registrar. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:48:03 -0600 From: "Clifford Johnston" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE - CARRUTHERS To: "'Dorothy Riegel'" <[email protected]>, "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dorothy, Can you flesh out the information on your ggrandparents a wee bit? Thanks, Cliff. Johnston -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dorothy Riegel Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 3:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE - CARRUTHERS My great great grandparents were James Johnstone and Margaret Carruthers.? They both died in Kirkmichael before 1900.? Anyone have them on their family tree? Dorothy (Wood) Riegel Dorothy Riegel??? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:33:23 -0700 From: "Roland & Alison deCaen" <[email protected]> Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Johnstone in Lockerbie To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" thank you Audery for your help Does anyone have a John Johnstone born circa 1769 in the Lockerbie area ??????? 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I am currently trying to prove a connection between two John Johnstons, my believe (hope) is that they are the same person: John Johnston (1) eldest son of Thomas Johnston and Mary McMurdo of Moatland, Dunscore in the parish of Glencairn. Thomas was born Abt 1760, married Mary McMurdo on 30th December 1785, and died on 1st December 1833 aged 73 and is interred in Dunscore Village Cemetery. John (1) was born Abt 1786, died 1850 aged 65 in Crocketford in the Parish of Kirkpatrick Durham, Kirkcudbrightshire and is interred in Dunscore Village Cemetery along with his father Thomas. John's (1) sister Elizabeth married James Dun of Beoch, in the Parish of Irongray, two or three miles from Crocketford. John (2) married Helen Duff and had ten children, seven of whom were born in Dunscore with the remaining three being born in the Parish of Irongray. The 1841 Census shows John(2) and Helen living at Hillhead in the Parish of Irongray, the neighbouring farm to Meikle Beoch, with Elizabeth and James Dunn living in Meikle Beoch. The 1851 Census shows Helen and her family (minus John(2)) living in Newhouse, Crocketford in the Parish of Kirkpatrick Durham. Helen was born in Croalchaple, Closeburn, Dumfriesshire on 23rd August 1789 and died on 1st January 1879 in Newhouse, Crocketford aged 90 years and is interred in Kirkpatrick Durham Cemetery. Can anyone help me unravel this mystery?

thank you Audery for your help Does anyone have a John Johnstone born circa 1769 in the Lockerbie area ??????? Alison

Dorothy, Can you flesh out the information on your ggrandparents a wee bit? Thanks, Cliff. Johnston -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dorothy Riegel Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 3:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE - CARRUTHERS My great great grandparents were James Johnstone and Margaret Carruthers.  They both died in Kirkmichael before 1900.  Anyone have them on their family tree? Dorothy (Wood) Riegel Dorothy Riegel    ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Trish, The "e" is important as we've found that all of ours had it back in Scotland. I'll file your information also. Thank you. Cliff. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Trich Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE I have a James JOHNSTONE, born abt 1875, married my Annie Brown DICKSON 1897 ... (I haven't searched for any children to them as yet - Robert DICKSON's brother William Gibson DICKSON 1825-1887 NZ is my line) regards, Trich Devescovi Westport, NZ Image Extract 1 1897 JOHNSTONE JAMES DICKSON ANNIE BROWN KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/09 0265 James Johnstone, (signed) railway signalman, bachelor, age 22, usual residence 7 London House, Main Street, Wishaw, son of Thomas Johnstone, railway guard (deceased) and Jane Johnstone, maiden surname Hyslop (deceased), married 25 June 1897 at 236 Great Western Road, Glasgow, after Banns and Publication according to the Forms of the Free Church of Scotland, to Annie Brown Dickson (signed) spinster, age 27, usual residence 38 St Clair Street, Glasgow, daughter of Robert Dickson, retired dairyman, and Helen Dickson, maiden surname Houston, Minister James Barr (signed) assisted by Adam Renwick (signed), witnesses Wm J Campbell and M Houston, registered 28 June 1897 at Glasgow, Wm Campbell, asst registrar. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

<Is anyone researching the Johnstone family from Moffatt circa early 1800s late 1700s> Alison Hi Alison, Although my Johnstones are a little earlier I shall tell you who I am researching as there may be others out there researching the same. My nearest Johnstone is Sophia Johnstone c1715 b Kirkpatrick Juxta married George Carruthers 1733 Her Parents David Johnstone c1692 Beattock death 1750 Kirkpatrick Juxta and Jean Copland. His parents ? David Johnstone death 1705 Sophia's siblings are Rachael Johnstone died 1748 Margaret Johnstone David Johnstone bJun 1724 Beattock I believe Beattock is very close to Moffat. Is anyone else researching this family or knows anything about them? Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2108/4084 - Release Date: 12/16/11

My great great grandparents were James Johnstone and Margaret Carruthers.  They both died in Kirkmichael before 1900.  Anyone have them on their family tree? Dorothy (Wood) Riegel Dorothy Riegel   

Judy, Very interesting as we have found other marriages between the Poldean Johnston/es and the Carruthers. I'll keep your information to see if we can find a fit down the road :-) Cliff. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Judy Jeffrey Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 11:34 AM To: 'Roland & Alison deCaen'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE <Is anyone researching the Johnstone family from Moffatt circa early 1800s late 1700s> Alison Hi Alison, Although my Johnstones are a little earlier I shall tell you who I am researching as there may be others out there researching the same. My nearest Johnstone is Sophia Johnstone c1715 b Kirkpatrick Juxta married George Carruthers 1733 Her Parents David Johnstone c1692 Beattock death 1750 Kirkpatrick Juxta and Jean Copland. His parents ? David Johnstone death 1705 Sophia's siblings are Rachael Johnstone died 1748 Margaret Johnstone David Johnstone bJun 1724 Beattock I believe Beattock is very close to Moffat. Is anyone else researching this family or knows anything about them? Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2108/4084 - Release Date: 12/16/11 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tom, Thank you. I've added your information to our data base - actually I've named the file "Wild Hairs", but it's been useful over the years. Cliff. Johnston -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Welch Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Johnstone of Gibsonhill, Tundergarth Parish I have only one Scottish Johnstone. I have no information about her family or ancestors. From the gravestone at Corrie Common Churchyard; Thomas Hall who died at Gibsonhill 7 July 1825 aged 82 years. Also Susanah Johnstone his spouse who died 25th May, 1841 aged 83 years. and Mary Hall their daughter who died at Upperbanks 25th May, 1814 aged 32 years. Also Sarah Hall their daughter died at Gibsonhill 12th December, 1836 aged 26 years. Hope this helps someone. Tom Welch D/G admin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have only one Scottish Johnstone. I have no information about her family or ancestors. From the gravestone at Corrie Common Churchyard; Thomas Hall who died at Gibsonhill 7 July 1825 aged 82 years. Also Susanah Johnstone his spouse who died 25th May, 1841 aged 83 years. and Mary Hall their daughter who died at Upperbanks 25th May, 1814 aged 32 years. Also Sarah Hall their daughter died at Gibsonhill 12th December, 1836 aged 26 years. Hope this helps someone. Tom Welch D/G admin.

At this point I don't know, but I'm putting your information into our data base just in case... :-) We are trying to fill in the 1500s and 1600s now. We have only a few in the 1700s completed. Thank you. Cliff. Johnston -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of c mundy Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:42 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE I have an E. H. (Isaac) Johnstone b. Dumphrieshire and married my Elizabeth Fleming in Australia where they both went. Does he fit any of your families? cm Descendants of Isaac (E. H.) Johnston(e) 1 Isaac (E. H.) Johnston(e) b: 1852 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland d: July 24, 1881 in Adelaide, Australia .. +Elizabeth H. Fleming b: Abt. 1854 in Scotland m: Bef. 1877 in Scotland d: September 06, 1912 in Adelaide, Australia . 2 Agnes Fleming Johnston b: 1877 in Scotland ..... +James Barclay b: Abt. 1877 m: December 08, 1897 in Salvation Army Barracks, Adelaide, South Australia .... 3 Hilda Constance Agnes Barclay b: 1898 in Adelaide, Australia .... 3 James Ballington J. Barclay b: 1899 in Kanowna, Western Australia, Australia .... 3 Leslie Carlyle St Clair Barclay b: 1901 in Adelaide, Australia .... 3 Trevor Vernold Linden b: 1903 in Goodwood, South Australia .... 3 Keith Bramwell Mervyn Barclay b: 1905 in Goodwood, South Australia . 2 Elizabeth A. Johnston b: 1880 in Adelaide, Australia d: 1881 in West Terrace Cemetery, Adelaide, South Australia > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:40:57 -0700 > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE > > Is anyone researching the Johnstone family from Moffatt circa early > 1800s late 1700s Alison > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have an E. H. (Isaac) Johnstone b. Dumphrieshire and married my Elizabeth Fleming in Australia where they both went. Does he fit any of your families? cm Descendants of Isaac (E. H.) Johnston(e) 1 Isaac (E. H.) Johnston(e) b: 1852 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland d: July 24, 1881 in Adelaide, Australia .. +Elizabeth H. Fleming b: Abt. 1854 in Scotland m: Bef. 1877 in Scotland d: September 06, 1912 in Adelaide, Australia . 2 Agnes Fleming Johnston b: 1877 in Scotland ..... +James Barclay b: Abt. 1877 m: December 08, 1897 in Salvation Army Barracks, Adelaide, South Australia .... 3 Hilda Constance Agnes Barclay b: 1898 in Adelaide, Australia .... 3 James Ballington J. Barclay b: 1899 in Kanowna, Western Australia, Australia .... 3 Leslie Carlyle St Clair Barclay b: 1901 in Adelaide, Australia .... 3 Trevor Vernold Linden b: 1903 in Goodwood, South Australia .... 3 Keith Bramwell Mervyn Barclay b: 1905 in Goodwood, South Australia . 2 Elizabeth A. Johnston b: 1880 in Adelaide, Australia d: 1881 in West Terrace Cemetery, Adelaide, South Australia > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:40:57 -0700 > Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE > > Is anyone researching the Johnstone family from Moffatt circa early 1800s late 1700s > Alison > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, there are a bunch of us :-) In fact, we've hired Ian to research our Poldean and related branches. We even have our own site on Yahoo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JohnstonsInPoldean/ and a Newsletter. A Y-DNA test of a male Johnston/e is a definitive test for making a connection. We are of Danish Viking descent, having come across the Channel with William the Conqueror and later going up to Scotland. How can we help you? Good hunting, Clifford Johnston -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland & Alison deCaen Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Bulk] [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] JOHNSTONE Is anyone researching the Johnstone family from Moffatt circa early 1800s late 1700s Alison ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is anyone researching the Johnstone family from Moffatt circa early 1800s late 1700s Alison

I have a member of my tree who travelled to Australia in 1880 on an assisted passage aboard the Windsor Castle. I was led to believe that if you had a skill that was required in Australia the government paid your passage, with my family member he was an agricultural worker.   Vanessa  All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ ________________________________ From: Maisie Egger <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 11 December 2011, 17:47 Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Fw: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia Thank you for the link, Malcolm (on the Wigtown list). What caught my particular attention was the following: """In 1873 the Edwin Fox became an immigrant ship. She was chartered to the Shaw Savill & Company to carry immigrants from England to New Zealand as part of the assisted migration scheme started by New Zealand Prime Minister Sir Julius Vogel. She made four voyages between 1873 and 1876, carrying a total of 751 passengers....""" I used to wonder how so many "ordinary" people early on could afford to emigrate as I remember as a teen in the 1940s-1950 hardly ever being able to afford a "day through" to Edinburgh from Glasgow 40 miles away!  This one little passage clears it up.  I had thought assisted passages, the £10 scheme to Australia, was a more recent programme, but apparently not.  I wonder how much such assisted passages cost to go to New Zealand in 1873, as an example. For more on the post-war (WWII, i.e.) Australian assisted passage programme go to these links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Pound_Poms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-war_immigration_to_Australia Maisie -------------------------------   Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:05 AM   Subject: RE: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia   Hi Ailsa and Maisie,   Here is a link wth the history of The Edwin Fox. It did carry convicts to Western Australia in the 1850s and later switched to the New Zealand route with immigrants. http://www.theprow.org.nz/The-Edwin-Fox/   Malcolm   -------------------------------    From: [email protected]    Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia   Hi Maisie,   Interesting video, but I am not sure Chris Paton's information is correct. He says the Edwin Fox was built about 150 years ago (therefore c1861) and brought convicts to New Zealand.   I don't think New Zealand received convicts. However if NZ did take convicts, I would have expected transportation to have stopped by 1861.   Can anyone enlighten me?   Ailsa    -----------------------------     Maisie Egger <[email protected]> wrote:     ...It should be of great interest to those whose forebears were deemed     social problems and were shipped off to Australia. The ship is actually     in dry dock in New Zealand. I hope they get plenty of funding to     refurbish this ship as a floating historical museum....      Maisie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia Thank you for the link, Malcolm (on the Wigtown list). What caught my particular attention was the following: """In 1873 the Edwin Fox became an immigrant ship. She was chartered to the Shaw Savill & Company to carry immigrants from England to New Zealand as part of the assisted migration scheme started by New Zealand Prime Minister Sir Julius Vogel. She made four voyages between 1873 and 1876, carrying a total of 751 passengers....""" I used to wonder how so many "ordinary" people early on could afford to emigrate as I remember as a teen in the 1940s-1950 hardly ever being able to afford a "day through" to Edinburgh from Glasgow 40 miles away! This one little passage clears it up. I had thought assisted passages, the £10 scheme to Australia, was a more recent programme, but apparently not. I wonder how much such assisted passages cost to go to New Zealand in 1873, as an example. For more on the post-war (WWII, i.e.) Australian assisted passage programme go to these links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Pound_Poms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-war_immigration_to_Australia Maisie ------------------------------- Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:05 AM Subject: RE: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia Hi Ailsa and Maisie, Here is a link wth the history of The Edwin Fox. It did carry convicts to Western Australia in the 1850s and later switched to the New Zealand route with immigrants. http://www.theprow.org.nz/The-Edwin-Fox/ Malcolm ------------------------------- From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WIG LIST] Fw: Video on the Edwin Fox - oldest and only surviving ship for transporting convicts to Australia Hi Maisie, Interesting video, but I am not sure Chris Paton's information is correct. He says the Edwin Fox was built about 150 years ago (therefore c1861) and brought convicts to New Zealand. I don't think New Zealand received convicts. However if NZ did take convicts, I would have expected transportation to have stopped by 1861. Can anyone enlighten me? Ailsa ----------------------------- Maisie Egger <[email protected]> wrote: ...It should be of great interest to those whose forebears were deemed social problems and were shipped off to Australia. The ship is actually in dry dock in New Zealand. I hope they get plenty of funding to refurbish this ship as a floating historical museum.... Maisie

Thanks to Bruce for the recent reminder. Tried again to find the death of one Joan Telford, a GGGG Grandmother, known to be 1861-71. Found it in 1865 in the indexes. Then found it on Scotlands People - it was there all along, but even though the age is on the statutory record, it is not visible when searching ! I now know two more GGGGG Grandparents (William Telford and Margaret Nichol), though first search for further details on them is looking difficult. Jim Graham

This link was forwarded to me by Christine Woodcock. It should be of great interest to those whose forebears were deemed social problems and were shipped off to Australia. The ship is actually in dry dock in New Zealand. I hope they get plenty of funding to refurbish this ship as a floating historical museum. My only unimportant observation is that Chris Paton sounds like a half-boiled Ulsterman/Scot! Maisie ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Videographer & narrator is Chris Paton, scottish genealogist. http://youtu.be/K7e1V3vY8G0 Christine www.genealogytoursofscotland.ca http://scottishgenealogytipsntricks.blogspot.com/

Hi, Interesting ! Thought I'd check all Riddick name variations in the DGFHS MI database, hits are as follows: Roddick = 47 Riddick  = 14 Reddock = 1 Rodick  = 10 Rudick = 1 Rodk = 4 That makes six variations found on D&G memorials. If you want them just ask -- I'm sure DGFHS won't quibble about one over the offered quota.   Cheers, Sy   ________________________________ From: Gordon Johnson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2011, 11:51 Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Riddick ** There is also the spelling Reddick, which in the case of my brother in law, is now Reddiex, plus Reddock, Riddocks, etc. Gordon. Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 22:23:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Pittendreigh <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] RIDDICK Connection 2011-1205 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi There are 14 RIDDICK and 47 RODDICK MIs listed in the DGFHS database. Non-members can have a one courtesy search if they e-mail [email protected] The search results are sent as an email attachment?in RTF readble on any word processor. Members can request any number of searches, limited to?five names at a time. ? Sandy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

** There is also the spelling Reddick, which in the case of my brother in law, is now Reddiex, plus Reddock, Riddocks, etc. Gordon. Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 22:23:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Pittendreigh <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] RIDDICK Connection 2011-1205 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi There are 14 RIDDICK and 47 RODDICK MIs listed in the DGFHS database. Non-members can have a one courtesy search if they e-mail [email protected] The search results are sent as an email attachment?in RTF readble on any word processor. Members can request any number of searches, limited to?five names at a time. ? Sandy