Just for interest: The "Moodies of Melsetter" by Edmund H Burrows 1954 The "Moodie book" (Nat Library of Scotland) Pvt printed 1906 Moodies of Melsetter, Orkney William MUDIE dabt. 1594 son Adam MUDIE x Christian STEWART> perhaps from Earls of Moray son James 1615-1681 son R N James MOODIE 1645-1725 son Benjamin 1723-1769 son James 1757-1820 x Eliza DUNBAR son Cpt Ben MOODIE 1789-1856 son James Ben Donald b.26 May 1818 x Sara VanZYL son Thomas babt. 1822 Laird of Groot Vaders (among 1st group trekkers to Rhodesia) Nephew Dunbar George Benjamin (purported gun-runner in early Rhodesia) Rgds Ian Carruthers Harare - Zimbabwe

" Mr. Williams was convinced that this country possessed within itself the means of employment for all its inhabitants, and that nothing more was neces- sary than to cultivate those lands which at present were waste. "The motion was agreed to." - Hansard's Parliamentary Debates, vol. from 3rd May to 13th July, 18 19, p. 1549, et seq. SETTLEMENT OF THE ZUNSVELD 3 In June, 1817, Mr. Benjamin MOODIE, Laird of Milsetter, Orkney Islands, at two different periods brought 200 settlers to the Colony. They were of the common sort, who placed themselves under his guidance, and entered into regular indentures, by which, in return for the expense of their exportation and outfit, they bound themselves to work for Mr. MOODIE on a certain fixed rate of wages, during a certain number of years after their arrival ; or to buy up their indentures at a reasonable rate, also fixed and determined beforehand. The people selected were from the neighbourhood of Edinburgh, closely allied to each other, over whom he had no special influence. They had not long been in the Colony when the great majority of his people broke all their contracts, abandoned him for ever, and scattered themselves over the country wherever they could get good wages, without the least regard to his interests, and in such a manner as to baffle him and his agents most completely. To the success which many of them individually met with, may, in a great measure, be attri- buted the attention and interest which the British public gave to the capabilities of the Cape. Many of Mr. Moodie's people were established in Cape Town and throughout the Colony in respectable trades. They were principally mechanics of the most valuable description. They were to have been settled upon a grant of land promised to Mr. MOODIE by Government. Ever since his arrival the country bordering on Kafirland, where only he could expect a suit- able grant, had been so much disturbed by the incursions of the Kafirs, that it would have been injurious to the interests of the public, as well as inconsistent with his duty to his followers, to have exposed their lives to danger by settling them on the borders at that period. He preferred purchasing, on account of the locality, in the district of Swellendam, near the confluence of the Buffalo- hunt (Buffeljagt) and Broad (Breed) Rivers. Mr. MOODIE was induced to relinquish his intention of claiming a grant of land for the moment by the dis- covery that the demand for labour was so great in the Colony that his people were employed much more profitably to the public in the service of others than they could have been in his own, with the limited colonial experience he then possessed. He was the first person who attempted to direct emigration from the mother country to the Colony. When grants were being given to settlers in the Zunsveld, Mr. MOODIE memorialized the Acting-Governor, representing the loss it had been to him not being able to occupy the grant originally in- tended for him owing to the disturbed state of the country, that twenty of his people had deserted from him, and that out of the remaining 180 in the country, he could now only carry to the Zunsveld seventy-one persons, the others being more usefully employed to the community than they could be on the Frontier. The Acting-Governor, Sir R. S. Donkin, recognised the value of the introduc- tion by Mr. Moodie of British-born subjects, and recommended his memorial to the favourable consideration of the home Government, who directed that on his conveying himself and the specified number of able-bodied individuals to the Zuurveld, he should receive a grant of land in the proportion of 100 acres to each individual who should be located on such land, the grant itself to be made out at the expiration of three years from the date of location in the form and on the conditions directed by Her Majesty's Government for persons emi- grating to the Colony. Unfortunately for Mr. MOODIE, the grant which he obtained was on the Gualana River, near Fredericksburg, in a part which Lord Charles SOMERSET, on his return to the Colony, found was within the neutral territory, and that it was a breach of treaty-faith to occupy it. Mr. Moodie's and all other grants were consequently cancelled. Disgusted and disheartened by his ill-success in South Africa, he sold out all he had and migrated to Upper Canada, where he died at Belleville in 1868. In 181 7 an addition to the 200 introduced by Mr. MOODIE was made to the British population of the settlement by allowing the discharge of 700 or 800 time-expired soldiers and sailors, who also found ready employment. In 1819 another Scotch gentleman, Mr. Peter Tait, endeavoured to follow Mr. Moodie's plan of introducing settlers ; but he was not so fortunate, as it was not till April, 1820, that he sent out sixteen men, three women, and six children : viz., Andrew Marshall, Robert Robson, Edward Wake, George Harvey, Henry Aitchison, Thomas Hill, John Douglas, James Donaldson, James Stevenson, James Grier, Joseph McDougall, James Foord, George Ogilvie, Isaac Tait, his wife and four children, William Tait (aged fourteen years j, William Foord, his wife and two children, and Margaret Harvey, No time was lost after the House of Commons had passed the Vote for emigration appUed for by the Chancellor of the Exchequer in issuing circulars stating the terms and conditions upon which passages would be given to those applicants who were approved. They are dated eight days after the Vote had been taken, and were sent to the Governor at Cape Town. These circulars were as follows, being also the only official documents published on the subject : - Government Circular. "Downing Street, London, 1819. " I have to acquaint you, in reply to your letter of the , that the following are the conditions under which it is proposed to give encouragement to emi- gration to the Cape of Good Hope. "The sufferings to which many individuals have been exposed, who have emigrated to his Majesty's foreign possessions, unconnected and unprovided with any capital or even the means of support, having been very afflicting to themselves, and equally burdensome to the Colonies to which they have pro- ceeded, the Government have determined to confine the application of the money recently voted by Address in the House of Commons to those persons who, possessing the means, will engage to carry out, at the least, ten able- bodied individuals above eighteen years of age, with or without families, the Government always reserving to itself the right of selecting from the several offers made to them, those which may prove, upon examination, to be most eligible. " In order to give some security to the Government that the persons under- taking to make these establishments have the means of doing so, every person engaging to take out the above-mentioned number of persons or families shall deposit at the rate of ten pounds (to be repaid as hereinafter mentioned) for every family so taken out, provided that the family does not consist of more than one man, one woman, and two children under fourteen years of age. All children above the number of two will have to be paid for, in addition to the deposit above mentioned, in the proportion of five pounds for every two chil- dren under fourteen years of age, and five pounds for every person between the ages of fourteen and eighteen. " In consideration of this deposit, a passage shall be provided at the expense of the Government for the settlers, who shall also be victualled fron> the time of their embarkation until the time of their landing in the Colony. Etc Etc

Moodie's departure from Orkney was not for the reasons you cite. His family were lairds who had fallen on hard times through profligacy. Nor in Orkney was overpopulation yet a problem: although the labour shortage of the Napoleonic wars had passed, the kelp industry, a labour-intensive activity, was still dominant, while whaling and the Hudson's Bay Company both still enabled many men to bring cash into the local economy. James Irvine -----Original Message----- From: Clifford Johnston Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:08 PM To: 'James Irvine' ; [email protected] Subject: RE: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Capt. Benjamin Moodie's 1817 emigrants They probably left Scotland for the same reasons that so many today are looking to move - overpopulation, poverty and the promise of opportunities elsewhere. I noticed in the Scotsman a couple of days ago that 1 in 5 Scots now lives in poverty. That is a horrendous number. Cliff. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Irvine Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 3:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Capt. Benjamin Moodie's 1817 emigrants Donald: I have a bit of background for you, though you may have already have much of it: BENJAMIN MOODIE, 10th of Melsetter in the parish of Walls, Orkney, born 1/1/1789 or '90, died 2/4/1856 at Groot Vaders Bosch, Swellendam, South Africa, and was buried there. On the death of his father james Moodie in 1820(?), as Melsetter had to be sold, he organised the settlement in South Africa of some 200 Scottish families, and bought the farm of Groot Vaders Bosch. He married 1st, c. 1817, Margaret, dr. of Mr Malcolmson in Walls, Orkney, - she died at Groot Vaders Bosch in 1838; 2nd, at Blackheath, London, in 1841, Susan Barnett, who d.s.p. in England, c. 1858. He had 8 children. His younger brother Lt Donald had emigrated to the Cape Colony in 1816. There is doubtless more information in "The Moodie Book" by Melville AHD HEDDEL and the Marquis of REVIGNEY and RAINEVAL , though this is not reputed for its accuracy. I have no idea how an Orcadian recruited men from Dunmfriesshire. James Irvine Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:52:09 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Capt Benjamin Moodie's 1817 emigrants to South Africa To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" As part of the SCOON one-name study, I've been trying to follow up two brothers Robert (b c 1789) and James (b c 1792) SCOON who travelled to Cape Town in 1817 on The Brilliant. They were part of a group of about 200 skilled artisans from various parts of Scotland who were indentured to Benjamin Moodie who was involved with several other groups to the same area from all over the UK. The South African records tell us a lot about the brothers' lives (and deaths) in South Africa, but unfortunately very little about their ancestry. All we know for sure is that Robert came from the Hawick area, but that James described himself as a 'native of Dumfriesshire' in his 1826 will. Robert, originally a cooper, became quite a renowned explorer before dying unmarried in 1837; James stuck to his trade as a blacksmith and farrier in Cape Town, married and fathered 3 children before dying in 1827. The most likely explanation for this is that they were they sons of Walter Scoon and Mary Elliot b 1788 and 1790 respectively at Todshawhill a few miles SW of Hawick. Their elder brother Walter moved to Langholm (1800-10) and became a master blacksmith, so it would well have been possible for his younger brother James to have followed or gone with him and learnt his trade in Langholm - hence the description in his will. However, this is very much in 'best guess' territory and I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has more information about the pair or indeed has any connections with the group of 200 as I have found it very difficult to find out where or how they were recruited - did Moodie perhaps visit Langholm or somewhere nearby? Donald Grant Scoon One Name Study (GOONS #5642) www.donjgrant.me.uk/schp.html ------------------------------ To contact the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 ************************************************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to everyone who has responded on this. The 1817 group that Moodie organised was one of several which he set up coming from all over the UK. The original intention of the deal seems to have been to provide skilled labour for his estate there, but once in South Africa many seem to have seen that the terms weren't particularly good and set out on their own. I have found a record in The Scotsman of a ship which left Leith to take some (possibly all) of the 200 as far as London but it was a bit early for the local papers that would probably given a clearer account twenty or so years later. On the poverty issue, I am sure that there are various modern parallels. One thing that has struck me from going through the farm tenancy records in the century or so before this particular emigration scheme was the extent to which most of the tenant farming families were permanently in debt, often many years behind in their rents. The pressure would therefore have been on younger sons to enter trades or emigrate. In the course of just 50 years, virtually all of the farming Scoons in the Hawick area emigrated; those round Langholm and Canonbie lasted rather longer. Donald Grant Scoon One Name Study (GOONS #5642) www.donjgrant.me.uk/schp.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ In a message dated 15/01/2012 22:12:48 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: They probably left Scotland for the same reasons that so many today are looking to move - overpopulation, poverty and the promise of opportunities elsewhere. I noticed in the Scotsman a couple of days ago that 1 in 5 Scots now lives in poverty. That is a horrendous number. Cliff.

They probably left Scotland for the same reasons that so many today are looking to move - overpopulation, poverty and the promise of opportunities elsewhere. I noticed in the Scotsman a couple of days ago that 1 in 5 Scots now lives in poverty. That is a horrendous number. Cliff. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Irvine Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 3:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Capt. Benjamin Moodie's 1817 emigrants Donald: I have a bit of background for you, though you may have already have much of it: BENJAMIN MOODIE, 10th of Melsetter in the parish of Walls, Orkney, born 1/1/1789 or '90, died 2/4/1856 at Groot Vaders Bosch, Swellendam, South Africa, and was buried there. On the death of his father james Moodie in 1820(?), as Melsetter had to be sold, he organised the settlement in South Africa of some 200 Scottish families, and bought the farm of Groot Vaders Bosch. He married 1st, c. 1817, Margaret, dr. of Mr Malcolmson in Walls, Orkney, - she died at Groot Vaders Bosch in 1838; 2nd, at Blackheath, London, in 1841, Susan Barnett, who d.s.p. in England, c. 1858. He had 8 children. His younger brother Lt Donald had emigrated to the Cape Colony in 1816. There is doubtless more information in "The Moodie Book" by Melville AHD HEDDEL and the Marquis of REVIGNEY and RAINEVAL , though this is not reputed for its accuracy. I have no idea how an Orcadian recruited men from Dunmfriesshire. James Irvine Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:52:09 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Capt Benjamin Moodie's 1817 emigrants to South Africa To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" As part of the SCOON one-name study, I've been trying to follow up two brothers Robert (b c 1789) and James (b c 1792) SCOON who travelled to Cape Town in 1817 on The Brilliant. They were part of a group of about 200 skilled artisans from various parts of Scotland who were indentured to Benjamin Moodie who was involved with several other groups to the same area from all over the UK. The South African records tell us a lot about the brothers' lives (and deaths) in South Africa, but unfortunately very little about their ancestry. All we know for sure is that Robert came from the Hawick area, but that James described himself as a 'native of Dumfriesshire' in his 1826 will. Robert, originally a cooper, became quite a renowned explorer before dying unmarried in 1837; James stuck to his trade as a blacksmith and farrier in Cape Town, married and fathered 3 children before dying in 1827. The most likely explanation for this is that they were they sons of Walter Scoon and Mary Elliot b 1788 and 1790 respectively at Todshawhill a few miles SW of Hawick. Their elder brother Walter moved to Langholm (1800-10) and became a master blacksmith, so it would well have been possible for his younger brother James to have followed or gone with him and learnt his trade in Langholm - hence the description in his will. However, this is very much in 'best guess' territory and I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has more information about the pair or indeed has any connections with the group of 200 as I have found it very difficult to find out where or how they were recruited - did Moodie perhaps visit Langholm or somewhere nearby? Donald Grant Scoon One Name Study (GOONS #5642) www.donjgrant.me.uk/schp.html ------------------------------ To contact the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 ************************************************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Donald: I have a bit of background for you, though you may have already have much of it: BENJAMIN MOODIE, 10th of Melsetter in the parish of Walls, Orkney, born 1/1/1789 or '90, died 2/4/1856 at Groot Vaders Bosch, Swellendam, South Africa, and was buried there. On the death of his father james Moodie in 1820(?), as Melsetter had to be sold, he organised the settlement in South Africa of some 200 Scottish families, and bought the farm of Groot Vaders Bosch. He married 1st, c. 1817, Margaret, dr. of Mr Malcolmson in Walls, Orkney, - she died at Groot Vaders Bosch in 1838; 2nd, at Blackheath, London, in 1841, Susan Barnett, who d.s.p. in England, c. 1858. He had 8 children. His younger brother Lt Donald had emigrated to the Cape Colony in 1816. There is doubtless more information in "The Moodie Book" by Melville AHD HEDDEL and the Marquis of REVIGNEY and RAINEVAL , though this is not reputed for its accuracy. I have no idea how an Orcadian recruited men from Dunmfriesshire. James Irvine Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:52:09 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Capt Benjamin Moodie's 1817 emigrants to South Africa To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" As part of the SCOON one-name study, I've been trying to follow up two brothers Robert (b c 1789) and James (b c 1792) SCOON who travelled to Cape Town in 1817 on The Brilliant. They were part of a group of about 200 skilled artisans from various parts of Scotland who were indentured to Benjamin Moodie who was involved with several other groups to the same area from all over the UK. The South African records tell us a lot about the brothers' lives (and deaths) in South Africa, but unfortunately very little about their ancestry. All we know for sure is that Robert came from the Hawick area, but that James described himself as a 'native of Dumfriesshire' in his 1826 will. Robert, originally a cooper, became quite a renowned explorer before dying unmarried in 1837; James stuck to his trade as a blacksmith and farrier in Cape Town, married and fathered 3 children before dying in 1827. The most likely explanation for this is that they were they sons of Walter Scoon and Mary Elliot b 1788 and 1790 respectively at Todshawhill a few miles SW of Hawick. Their elder brother Walter moved to Langholm (1800-10) and became a master blacksmith, so it would well have been possible for his younger brother James to have followed or gone with him and learnt his trade in Langholm - hence the description in his will. However, this is very much in 'best guess' territory and I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has more information about the pair or indeed has any connections with the group of 200 as I have found it very difficult to find out where or how they were recruited - did Moodie perhaps visit Langholm or somewhere nearby? Donald Grant Scoon One Name Study (GOONS #5642) www.donjgrant.me.uk/schp.html ------------------------------ To contact the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 7, Issue 10 ************************************************

Hi Listers Can anyone help out with this Rigg family. Anthony died as a farmer tenant and I have the 1841 Census with the family living at Torkatrine Urr Kirkcudbrightshire. His wife was May Allan/Allen who was born in 1801 England. One of their many children William Born Torkatrine in 1837 came to Australia. I am trying to find out more about his family back in Scotland including his parents, grandparents and siblings. Any help would be appreciated. Pat AUSTRALIA

As part of the SCOON one-name study, I've been trying to follow up two brothers Robert (b c 1789) and James (b c 1792) SCOON who travelled to Cape Town in 1817 on The Brilliant. They were part of a group of about 200 skilled artisans from various parts of Scotland who were indentured to Benjamin Moodie who was involved with several other groups to the same area from all over the UK. The South African records tell us a lot about the brothers' lives (and deaths) in South Africa, but unfortunately very little about their ancestry. All we know for sure is that Robert came from the Hawick area, but that James described himself as a 'native of Dumfriesshire' in his 1826 will. Robert, originally a cooper, became quite a renowned explorer before dying unmarried in 1837; James stuck to his trade as a blacksmith and farrier in Cape Town, married and fathered 3 children before dying in 1827. The most likely explanation for this is that they were they sons of Walter Scoon and Mary Elliot b 1788 and 1790 respectively at Todshawhill a few miles SW of Hawick. Their elder brother Walter moved to Langholm (1800-10) and became a master blacksmith, so it would well have been possible for his younger brother James to have followed or gone with him and learnt his trade in Langholm - hence the description in his will. However, this is very much in 'best guess' territory and I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has more information about the pair or indeed has any connections with the group of 200 as I have found it very difficult to find out where or how they were recruited - did Moodie perhaps visit Langholm or somewhere nearby? Donald Grant Scoon One Name Study (GOONS #5642) www.donjgrant.me.uk/schp.html

I am searching for information on William Rigg who was born in Kirkcudbrightshire in 1837 and died in Melbourne Australia in 1883. His wife was Margaret Cusack and his parents were Anthony Rigg and Mary Allan who married 25/1/1817 Urr Kirkcudbrightshire. Anthony was a farmer. Thanks Pat AUSTRALIA

Hello; Recently I have been engaged on research on the Ross family from Stranraer and district. In particular the family of Lt. Colonel Andrew Ross and related families. I have collected a number of documents that modify the findings of earlier research including those that registered at Keeper of Records for this family. If any on the list wants to exchange information, please contact me off the list. Ron Zinck Peterborough, Ontario

Wel, here in the Highlands we have the Am Baile council website which provides a free index to half a dozen historical local newspapers, and by indicating items of interest, the approrpiate library holding that paper will scan the article and e-mail it to you, all for free! Gordon Johnson in Caithness On 08/01/2012 08:01, [email protected] wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: British Newspaper Archive (Vanessa Dixon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:52:11 +0000 (GMT) > From: Vanessa Dixon<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] British Newspaper Archive > To: Alex Elliot<[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]"<[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Well it lets you know if there is an article of interest, its not that expensive, a lot cheaper than travelling to Dumfries to look at the newspapers, especially if you live overseas. Its quite an expensive business, scanning all the newspapers etc so they have to cover the cost somehow. > ? > Vanessa > > ?All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! > View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ > > > ________________________________ > From: Alex Elliot<[email protected]> > To: Vanessa Dixon<[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2012, 19:20 > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] British Newspaper Archive > > > thanks Vanessa for the info but is there any point in a free search if you cannot view for free > > Regards Alex ? a poor Scot > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Vanessa Dixon<[email protected]> wrote: > > Some of you will be aware that?The British Newspaper Archive is now going online, at the moment they have listed - Dumfries and Galloway Standard 1844-1860. To search the archive is free, but to view requires you to buy credits. >> ? >> http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ >> ? >> Vanessa >> >> ?All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! >> View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 7, Issue 6 > ***********************************************

Hi Alex, There sure is. I had spent a lot of research time a few years ago looking through the Dumfries and Galloway newspaper indexes that are in print. When I saw Vanessa's email about the digitization, I used the archive to look again for my family. I found two marriage and death notices that were missed from the books. You also get enough details in the search results to get a good idea what the article is about. I paid to view the articles since I live in Canada and I felt it was worth it. I hope they continue and digitize more years. It is a wonderful resource particularly for people who live far away. Joanna > From: Alex Elliot <[email protected]> > To: Vanessa Dixon <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2012, 19:20 > Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] British Newspaper Archive > > > thanks Vanessa for the info but is there any point in a free search if you cannot view > for free > > Regards Alex ? a poor Scot > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Vanessa Dixon <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Some of you will be aware that?The British Newspaper Archive is now going > online, at the moment they have listed - Dumfries and Galloway Standard 1844- > 1860. To search the archive is free, but to view requires you to buy credits. > >? > >http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ > >? > >Vanessa > > > >?All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! > >View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY- > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Digest, Vol 7, Issue 6 > ***********************************************

Well it lets you know if there is an article of interest, its not that expensive, a lot cheaper than travelling to Dumfries to look at the newspapers, especially if you live overseas. Its quite an expensive business, scanning all the newspapers etc so they have to cover the cost somehow.   Vanessa  All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ ________________________________ From: Alex Elliot <[email protected]> To: Vanessa Dixon <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2012, 19:20 Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] British Newspaper Archive thanks Vanessa for the info but is there any point in a free search if you cannot view for free Regards Alex   a poor Scot On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Vanessa Dixon <[email protected]> wrote: Some of you will be aware that The British Newspaper Archive is now going online, at the moment they have listed - Dumfries and Galloway Standard 1844-1860. To search the archive is free, but to view requires you to buy credits. >  >http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ >  >Vanessa > > All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! >View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Doesn't SCOTLANDS PEOPLE have wills on the site and i think they are free look up or were at one time. Jody On Wednesday, January 4, 2012, Ron Zinck <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello: > > I recently discovered that Dr. Benjamin Bartlet-Buchanan died in 1830 in > Dumfries from *Blackwood's Edinburgh magazine, Volume 28 page 996. > > My question is where would I find records of a probate or similiar > documents for this jurisdiction. > > Ron > > > * > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Jody Allen, Scottish Scribbles Blog http://scottishscribbles.blogspot.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Researching: Scotland: Wallace, Mctaggart, Clarke, Mckean(d), McCartney, Stewart Ireland: Lynch, Drought Wales: Williams, Walsh

Some of you will be aware that The British Newspaper Archive is now going online, at the moment they have listed - Dumfries and Galloway Standard 1844-1860. To search the archive is free, but to view requires you to buy credits.   http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/   Vanessa  All records are subject to error. Let they without typo caste tea thirst scone! View my photostream at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snapshistory/

Can anyone with 1911 Scottish census advise family of James and Abercromby McNab, Glasgow or Bute. Children were Agnes, Abercromby, William, James, Thomas, and Robert. Does ScotlandsPeople hold scan of Marriage for James McNab and Abercromby Muir, Glasgow, November 30, 1883 ? Sincere thanks: Les H., Napier, NZ.

Thanks for the help folks.

This morning it was my pleasure to host Ian and Margot on a sightseeing tour of the local districts as part of their current visit to New Zealand. I understand they are heading home on Sunday from Auckland. For nearly two hours we took in the local Port area, historical arrival district of the sailing ships and immigrants, then out through local vineyards and orchards, Napier and district, through to orchards to Storrtford Lodge (home of the Easter Highland Games, Hastings and district, then back to Napier via the Marine Parade, Mclean Park and city shops. Ian and Margot have been most helpful and obliging in our search for Gloria's Duff family links around Lockerbie, Dumfries and Kirkcudbright, as well as in my capacity as NZ Commissioner, Genealogy Officer and Newsletter Editor for the Clan Johnston/e Assn. NZ Inc. If any members are visiting Napier please contact us for a similar exercise or advice on local research facilities, accommodation, etc. Regards: Les and Gloria Hewett, Napier, New Zealand.

Hello: I recently discovered that Dr. Benjamin Bartlet-Buchanan died in 1830 in Dumfries from *Blackwood's Edinburgh magazine, Volume 28 page 996. My question is where would I find records of a probate or similiar documents for this jurisdiction. Ron *

Hi Les, Ancestry has the 1901 Scotland Census. It shows James NcNab, 41, and his wife Abercromby McNab, 37, born Glascow, Lanarksh, living at Hinshaw St 66, Lanarkshire, Kelvin, Civil Parish Glascow Kelvinshire, along with Annie Mceachran, 15; William M. Mceachran, 13; James Mceachran, 11; George J Mceachran, 8; Abercromby S. McNab, 5; Thomas McNab, 3; Robert 1. Happy New Year! Pete Dinwoodie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Les Hewett Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] 1911 census ?? Can anyone with 1911 Scottish census advise family of James and Abercromby McNab, Glasgow or Bute. Children were Agnes, Abercromby, William, James, Thomas, and Robert. Does ScotlandsPeople hold scan of Marriage for James McNab and Abercromby Muir, Glasgow, November 30, 1883 ? Sincere thanks: Les H., Napier, NZ. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message