Sandy, Wow! They have done an impressive job J Thank you. Cliff. From: Sandy Pittendreigh [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:44 AM To: Clifford Johnston; 'Desmond McDowell'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] St. Mary's Church Cemetery - Gravestone Hi Clifford, You wrote : <<Many thanks for the link. Now, is there an list of everyone who is buried there with their details? Too much to hope for?...>> Not really! The booklet produced by DGFHS combines both the Deaths & Burials record taken from the OPRs together with a list of all the MIs. Hope that answers the question. Sandy From: Clifford Johnston <[email protected]> To: 'Sandy Pittendreigh' <[email protected]>; 'Desmond McDowell' <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2012, 21:57 Subject: RE: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] St. Mary's Church Cemetery - Gravestone Sandy, Many thanks for the link. Now, is there an list of everyone who is buried there with their details? Too much to hope for?... Cliff. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandy Pittendreigh Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:23 PM To: Desmond McDowell; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] St. Mary's Church Cemetery - Gravestone Sorry, that previous address would work but you would need to know to select Dumfries from the index. This is more direct: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dfsgal/Dumfries/St%20Mary/index.htm ________________________________ From: Desmond McDowell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2012, 14:54 Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] St. Mary's Church Cemetery - Gravestone Can anyone tell me if St. Mary's Church Cemetery is online or if any photos of the gravestone have been taken. Or if someone who lives in the area would be so kind as to take a photo of the gravestone would be must appreciated. The information I have is below. Cemetery Record ID:7209 Location: Dumfries (St. Mary's Churchyard), Dumfriesshire In Memory of Janet McKAY, wife of John DALE, stockingmaker, who died 14th July 1886 aged 75 years Also the above John DALE, stockingmaker, who died 14th January 1888 aged 79 years Also Janet McKay DALE, daughter of John DALE, stockingmaker, who died on the 30th of May 1855 aged 7 years Surname Forenames Death Birth Dale Janet McKay 1855 1848 Dale John 1888 1809 McKay Janet 1886 1811 Desmond Ontario, Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Irene, Well how about that! I went to the resources page and what did I find at the top of their list? A link to my PBase site and my 1860s map of Dumfries.lol.good to see that it's being put to good use. Cliff. From: Irene Macleod [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:25 AM To: Clifford Johnston Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] St. Mary's Church Cemetery - Gravestone D&G FHS has published the MIs and burials for St Mary's. see www.dgfhs.org.uk ..then click the link for memorial inscriptions on the Publications page Irene

D&G FHS has published the MIs and burials for St Mary's. see www.dgfhs.org.uk ..then click the link for memorial inscriptions on the Publications page Irene

Sorry, that previous address would work but you would need to know to select Dumfries from the index. This is more direct: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dfsgal/Dumfries/St%20Mary/index.htm   ________________________________ From: Desmond McDowell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2012, 14:54 Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] St. Mary's Church Cemetery - Gravestone Can anyone tell me if St. Mary's Church Cemetery is online or if any photos of the gravestone have been taken. Or if someone who lives in the area would be so kind as to take a photo of the gravestone would be must appreciated. The information I have is below. Cemetery Record ID:7209 Location:    Dumfries (St. Mary's Churchyard), Dumfriesshire In Memory of Janet McKAY, wife of John DALE, stockingmaker, who died 14th July 1886 aged 75 years Also the above John DALE, stockingmaker, who died 14th January 1888 aged 79 years Also Janet McKay DALE, daughter of John DALE, stockingmaker, who died on the 30th of May 1855 aged 7 years Surname    Forenames    Death    Birth    Dale        Janet McKay    1855    1848 Dale        John                    1888    1809 McKay        Janet                    1886    1811 Desmond Ontario, Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have a look at http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dfsgal/ ________________________________ From: Desmond McDowell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2012, 14:54 Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] St. Mary's Church Cemetery - Gravestone Can anyone tell me if St. Mary's Church Cemetery is online or if any photos of the gravestone have been taken. Or if someone who lives in the area would be so kind as to take a photo of the gravestone would be must appreciated. The information I have is below. Cemetery Record ID:7209 Location:    Dumfries (St. Mary's Churchyard), Dumfriesshire In Memory of Janet McKAY, wife of John DALE, stockingmaker, who died 14th July 1886 aged 75 years Also the above John DALE, stockingmaker, who died 14th January 1888 aged 79 years Also Janet McKay DALE, daughter of John DALE, stockingmaker, who died on the 30th of May 1855 aged 7 years Surname    Forenames    Death    Birth    Dale        Janet McKay    1855    1848 Dale        John                    1888    1809 McKay        Janet                    1886    1811 Desmond Ontario, Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sandy, Many thanks for the link. Now, is there an list of everyone who is buried there with their details? Too much to hope for?... Cliff. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandy Pittendreigh Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:23 PM To: Desmond McDowell; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] St. Mary's Church Cemetery - Gravestone Sorry, that previous address would work but you would need to know to select Dumfries from the index. This is more direct: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dfsgal/Dumfries/St%20Mary/index.htm   ________________________________ From: Desmond McDowell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2012, 14:54 Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] St. Mary's Church Cemetery - Gravestone Can anyone tell me if St. Mary's Church Cemetery is online or if any photos of the gravestone have been taken. Or if someone who lives in the area would be so kind as to take a photo of the gravestone would be must appreciated. The information I have is below. Cemetery Record ID:7209 Location:    Dumfries (St. Mary's Churchyard), Dumfriesshire In Memory of Janet McKAY, wife of John DALE, stockingmaker, who died 14th July 1886 aged 75 years Also the above John DALE, stockingmaker, who died 14th January 1888 aged 79 years Also Janet McKay DALE, daughter of John DALE, stockingmaker, who died on the 30th of May 1855 aged 7 years Surname    Forenames    Death    Birth Dale        Janet McKay    1855    1848 Dale        John                    1888    1809 McKay        Janet                    1886    1811 Desmond Ontario, Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me if St. Mary's Church Cemetery is online or if any photos of the gravestone have been taken. Or if someone who lives in the area would be so kind as to take a photo of the gravestone would be must appreciated. The information I have is below. Cemetery Record ID:7209 Location: Dumfries (St. Mary's Churchyard), Dumfriesshire In Memory of Janet McKAY, wife of John DALE, stockingmaker, who died 14th July 1886 aged 75 years Also the above John DALE, stockingmaker, who died 14th January 1888 aged 79 years Also Janet McKay DALE, daughter of John DALE, stockingmaker, who died on the 30th of May 1855 aged 7 years Surname Forenames Death Birth Dale Janet McKay 1855 1848 Dale John 1888 1809 McKay Janet 1886 1811 Desmond Ontario, Canada

I thought some of you, particularly the ones who replied to my Lambert query,  might be interested in hearing of at least some success since posting it last week.  The basic info is that my ancestor Joseph Lambert, born ca 1760 declared in his 1844 New York state (USA) Naturalization record that he was "a native of Galloway, Scotland".  Joseph married Catherine Bacon, born ca 1780 somewhere in Ireland.   Indeed,  they are the right couple as parents of four children (their youngest four as far as I know) baptized at St. Mary Roman Catholic Church in Edinburgh between 1820-1827: Mary, Helen (new to me), Catherine and Edward.   Finding them in RC records was a huge surprise for me because... Remarkably I have an original 1837 letter written to Andrew Lambert (another child born 1807) then living in New York, from a friend in Edinburgh by the name of Margaret Cramond, dated July 29, 1837. She writes mainly about changing conditions in the city and some news on mutual acquaintances. She also writes about the church she attended and the impression is that Andrew and perhaps his parents, also affiliated with this church. “Mr. Runciman is still our minister. The chapel is now a parish church under the name of Newington Parish.” I was able to research the history of that church. It was originally a “chapel-of-ease” to St. Cuthbert’s Church, of the Established Church in Scotland, or Presbyterian. The structure was built in 1823 and still stands. It is in the Morningside district of Edinburgh in the southern part of the city. It is no longer a church but is a well-known performing arts center by the name of Queens Hall. A “google” search under Queens Hall Edinburgh will produce some pictures.David Runciman was born in 1804 at Wantonwalls, Par. of Lauder, BEW, SCT., his stated birthplace, is in Lauder).  David Runciman married Janet Aitchison.   David Runciman died on 12 Sep 1872 at Elie, FIF, SCT;  He was buried in the Necropolis, Glasgow, LKS, SCT, "2 or 3 rows behind the John Knox's memorial, by the Cathedral."......   Further, Margaret Cramond wrote,  "I feel your district is yet too thinly peopled to induce a minister to reside among you., so you will have no opportunity for public worhsip--but what a mercy that you have your Bibles ,  you will not be disposed to forget the Sabbath,  God is not confined to Temples made with hands."  (Italics are mine.)   Following are excerpts from Lorna Henderson's website; in 2010 she was residing in Waikanae, New Zealand:   ......David Runciman graduated from Edinburgh University, MLN, SCT, in 1821 at age 17, following an education at Lauder school; D.D. Lauder, BEW, SCT.  By Sep 1829 David Runciman was appointed by the Kirk Session to Hope Park Chapel (Newington Ch), Edinburgh St Cuthberts, MLN, SCT  The Newington Church is the New Queens Hall.  Initially the Hope Park Chapel of Ease, then the Newington & St Leonards Church, then converted in 1979 to the Queens Hall.  Dr David Runciman had his portrait painted by William Crawford, and at least 50 copies of an engraving by John Le Conte based on a painting were printed. (It is assumed) that this is the painting that used to hang in St Andrews Ch, Glasgow no longer there. In other words, in fact we find my Lamberts in a very Protestant milieu, at some point after the Catholic baptisms in the 1820's.  I'm really curious to know what others make of this, a flat out switch from Catholic baptisms to being connected with the Church of Scotland Hope Park Chapel, aka Newington Parish/St. Leonard's. Jerry Minneapolis, Minnesota,  USA

Hi All, Looking for descendants of John LITTLE and Jean BIRRELL; children Jean, b 1810, bap Gretna; John b 1811,bap Gretna; Janet b 1817, bap Gretna; Alexander William b 1823, bap Annan and Jean b c 1838 Scotland (probably Annan). (Also James below.) Also descendants of James LITTLE and Janet MURRAY; children John b c Aug 1860 Kirk Andrews Upon Esk; George Borell, b c 1864 Scotland; Alexander b 1865 Longtown; Richard b c 1867 Longtown; Jeannie b 1867 Kirk Andrews Upon Esk; Jessie b c 1871 Kirk Andrews Upon Esk; James b c 1873 Arthuret and Margaret b 1874 Arthuret. (Also Murray below.) Also descendants of Murray LITTLE and Jean, known children Sarah B b c 1894 Annan and Jeannie M b c 1900 Annan. There may be later children. (I have missed out the children I know not to have married and appear not to have issue and also my direct ancestor.) Any connections out there? Christine

Yes Jerry on ScotlandsPeople you have to buy credits to view the full record, once you've found an index item you think is yours.You can search the indexes for free. Once you've viewed a record you can can go back and look at it again without paying. Jeanette Thanks for helping me. First I should say that researching Scottish records/sources of any kind is new to me. I've heard of ScotlandsPeople site and just registered. I need to study just how it operates, but a basic question is, Do they charge for the full information from records? How interesting that you found Edward Lambert; indeed this has to be the right family as my Joseph and Catherine's youngest known child was Edward; I had 1828 and you find two Catholic entries for an Edward in 1827. I did not think they were Catholic, so that does bring in a question mark. I will check the nls link for trade directories in Edinburgh. You will see that I made an addition just a bit ago to my original message, naming the seven known children of Joseph and Catherine. Jerry ________________________________ From: Irene Macleod <[email protected]> To: Jerrold Brosious <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, February 15, 2012 3:58:05 AM Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] My Lambert ancestor, Galloway--need help! Hi The IGI gives a date of 1828 for the birth of an Edward Lambert in Scotland to Joseph Lambert and Catherine Bacon - and says this Edward died in Minnesota in 1919. The scotlandspeople site index gives 2 Catholic entries for an Edward to a Joseph and Catherine in 1827 in Edinburgh. If Joseph was born around 1760 it would make him significantly older than his wife and also pushing 70 when he emigrated ...unusual. The nls site has trade directories for Edinburgh online http://www.nls.uk/family-history/directories/post-office/index.cfm?place=Edinburgh Have you found a baptism entry for Andrew or John on scotlandspeople? Irene On 15 February 2012 03:32, Jerrold Brosious <[email protected]> wrote: Well, here's the message regarding my elusive Lambert ancestor. > >Joseph Lambert was born c. 1760; I've seen years ranging from 1758-1764. >According to his 1843 New York State Naturalization papers he declared that >he >was " a native of Galloway, Scotland ". He married Catherine Bacon (born c. >1780) who was born in Ireland, place unknown. Whether Joseph Lambert and >Catherine Bacon married in Ireland or Scotland, I don't know. By no later than >June of 1807 they were living in Edinburgh, when my great-great-grandfather >Andrew Lambert was born. I have only one earlier documented child, and that is >John Lambert born c. 1805; for his brthplace I have seen both Scotland and >Ireland. > >The Lamberts resided in Edinburgh until 1832; Joseph is said to have been >"a >merchant", but what kind, hasn't been specified. If of any relevance, >some/many of this family were artists, though as far as I know, none >professionally. They emigrated to America, arriving on or around April 2, >1832 >at the port of Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Their destination for settlement >was >Mooers Forks, Clinton County, New York, only a few miles across the Quebec >border. Joseph Lambert and Catherine Bacon Lambert died at Mooers Forks, >NY, he >in 1851 and she in 1866. Some of their children migrated to Glencoe, McLeod >County, Minnesota in the 1860's and 1870's. > >Basically, Help, please ! If anyone has any resources for information, or >even general ideas of how I might proceed as to identifying a birth, >parents, >siblings, etc., anything about the origins of Joseph Lambert, I'll be >deeply >appreciative. > >Jerry Brosious, >Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Irene, Thanks for helping me.  First I should say that researching Scottish records/sources of any kind is new to me.  I've heard of ScotlandsPeople site and just registered.  I need to study just how it operates,  but a basic question is,  Do they charge for the full information from records?   How interesting that you found Edward Lambert; indeed this has to be the right family as my Joseph and Catherine's youngest known child was Edward; I had 1828 and you find two Catholic entries for an Edward in 1827.  I did not think they were Catholic, so that does bring in a question mark.   I will check the  nls link for trade directories in Edinburgh.    You will see that I made an addition just a bit ago to my original message, naming the seven known children of Joseph and Catherine.  Jerry   ________________________________ From: Irene Macleod <[email protected]> To: Jerrold Brosious <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, February 15, 2012 3:58:05 AM Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] My Lambert ancestor, Galloway--need help! Hi The IGI gives a date of 1828 for the birth of an Edward Lambert in Scotland to Joseph Lambert and Catherine Bacon - and says this Edward died in Minnesota in 1919. The scotlandspeople site index gives 2 Catholic entries for an Edward to a Joseph and Catherine in 1827 in Edinburgh. If Joseph was born around 1760 it would make him significantly older than his wife and also pushing 70 when he emigrated ...unusual. The nls site has trade directories for Edinburgh online http://www.nls.uk/family-history/directories/post-office/index.cfm?place=Edinburgh Have you found a baptism entry for Andrew or John on scotlandspeople? Irene On 15 February 2012 03:32, Jerrold Brosious <[email protected]> wrote: Well,  here's the message regarding my elusive Lambert ancestor. > >Joseph Lambert was born c. 1760;   I've seen years ranging from 1758-1764.  >According to his 1843 New York State Naturalization papers he declared that he >was " a native of Galloway, Scotland ".     He married Catherine Bacon (born c. >1780) who was born in Ireland, place unknown.  Whether Joseph Lambert and >Catherine Bacon married in Ireland or Scotland, I don't know.   By no later than >June of 1807 they were living in Edinburgh, when my great-great-grandfather >Andrew Lambert was born.   I have only one earlier documented child, and that is >John Lambert born c. 1805; for his brthplace I have seen both Scotland and >Ireland. > >The Lamberts resided in Edinburgh until 1832;  Joseph is said to have been "a >merchant", but what kind, hasn't been specified.  If of any relevance, >some/many of this family were artists, though as far as I know, none >professionally.  They emigrated to America, arriving on or around April 2, 1832 >at the port of Montreal, Quebec, Canada.  Their destination for settlement was >Mooers Forks, Clinton County, New York, only a few miles across the Quebec >border.  Joseph Lambert and Catherine Bacon Lambert died at Mooers Forks, NY, he >in 1851 and she in 1866.   Some of their children migrated to Glencoe,  McLeod >County, Minnesota in the 1860's and 1870's. > >Basically,  Help, please !   If anyone has any resources for information, or >even general ideas of how I might proceed as to identifying a birth, parents, >siblings, etc., anything about the origins of Joseph Lambert,  I'll be deeply >appreciative. > >Jerry Brosious, >Minneapolis, Minnesota,  USA > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Perhaps I should have named the children of  Joseph Lambert and Catherine Bacon Lambert:  Michael (born c. 1805---Ireland or Scotland?);  Andrew, b. 4 June 1807,. Edinburgh;  John, b. ca 1811; Margaret, b. ca 1814; Mary, b. ca 1822; Catherine, b. ca 1825; and Edward b. ca 1828.....all but Michael born in Edinburgh as far as I know. I made an error in original message when I said the first known child was John, 1805; that should have been Michael.   I realize that Edinburgh is not within Dumfries-Galloway,  but thought it appropriate to round out the basic information on Joseph Lambert.     ________________________________ From: Jerrold Brosious <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Chris Mchugh <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 9:32:27 PM Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] My Lambert ancestor, Galloway--need help! Well,  here's the message regarding my elusive Lambert ancestor. Joseph Lambert was born c. 1760;   I've seen years ranging from 1758-1764.  According to his 1843 New York State Naturalization papers he declared that he was " a native of Galloway, Scotland ".     He married Catherine Bacon (born c. 1780) who was born in Ireland, place unknown.  Whether Joseph Lambert and Catherine Bacon married in Ireland or Scotland, I don't know.   By no later than June of 1807 they were living in Edinburgh, when my great-great-grandfather Andrew Lambert was born.   I have only one earlier documented child, and that is John Lambert born c. 1805; for his brthplace I have seen both Scotland and Ireland. The Lamberts resided in Edinburgh until 1832;  Joseph is said to have been "a merchant", but what kind, hasn't been specified.  If of any relevance, some/many of this family were artists, though as far as I know, none professionally.  They emigrated to America, arriving on or around April 2, 1832 at the port of Montreal, Quebec, Canada.  Their destination for settlement was Mooers Forks, Clinton County, New York, only a few miles across the Quebec border.  Joseph Lambert and Catherine Bacon Lambert died at Mooers Forks, NY, he in 1851 and she in 1866.   Some of their children migrated to Glencoe,  McLeod County, Minnesota in the 1860's and 1870's. Basically,  Help, please !   If anyone has any resources for information, or even general ideas of how I might proceed as to identifying a birth, parents, siblings, etc., anything about the origins of Joseph Lambert,  I'll be deeply appreciative. Jerry Brosious, Minneapolis, Minnesota,  USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Judy, that could well be it. I wonder if they were living there. I must get used to streetmap, I tend to overlook it but it can be very good. Thanks again. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Judy Jeffrey Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:35 AM To: 'Christine Benson' ; 'Dumfries&Galloway Mailing List' Subject: RE: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Limekilns Hi Christine, This one is just NW of Annan http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=317500&y=569500&z=120&sv=limekilns&st=3 &tl=Map+of+Limekilns,+Dumfries+and+Galloway+&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf If the link doesn't work try www.streetmap.co.uk and put in the box Limekilns. Then click on limekilns in Dumfries & Galloway. Judy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christine Benson Sent: 15 February 2012 01:26 To: Dumfries&Galloway Mailing List Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Limekilns Hi All, After getting a reply I see I need to explain my query better. I have a family that spent a lot of time around Gretna or just the other side of the border at Guards Mill and this particular child was baptised at Annan and died at Limekilns aged 8 weeks. So I supposed there was a place named Limekilns rather than any random limekiln. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Christine Benson Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:53 PM To: Dumfries&Galloway Mailing List Subject: Limekilns Hi All, Where is Limekilns, somewhere near Gretna, or just over the border into England. I think the chances of it being the one in Fife which Google Maps gives me are extremely low. Any help much appreciated. Christine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4809 - Release Date: 02/14/12

Hi Christine, This one is just NW of Annan http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=317500&y=569500&z=120&sv=limekilns&st=3 &tl=Map+of+Limekilns,+Dumfries+and+Galloway+&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf If the link doesn't work try www.streetmap.co.uk and put in the box Limekilns. Then click on limekilns in Dumfries & Galloway. Judy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christine Benson Sent: 15 February 2012 01:26 To: Dumfries&Galloway Mailing List Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Limekilns Hi All, After getting a reply I see I need to explain my query better. I have a family that spent a lot of time around Gretna or just the other side of the border at Guards Mill and this particular child was baptised at Annan and died at Limekilns aged 8 weeks. So I supposed there was a place named Limekilns rather than any random limekiln. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Christine Benson Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:53 PM To: Dumfries&Galloway Mailing List Subject: Limekilns Hi All, Where is Limekilns, somewhere near Gretna, or just over the border into England. I think the chances of it being the one in Fife which Google Maps gives me are extremely low. Any help much appreciated. Christine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4809 - Release Date: 02/14/12

Hi All, After getting a reply I see I need to explain my query better. I have a family that spent a lot of time around Gretna or just the other side of the border at Guards Mill and this particular child was baptised at Annan and died at Limekilns aged 8 weeks. So I supposed there was a place named Limekilns rather than any random limekiln. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Christine Benson Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:53 PM To: Dumfries&Galloway Mailing List Subject: Limekilns Hi All, Where is Limekilns, somewhere near Gretna, or just over the border into England. I think the chances of it being the one in Fife which Google Maps gives me are extremely low. Any help much appreciated. Christine

Hi All, Where is Limekilns, somewhere near Gretna, or just over the border into England. I think the chances of it being the one in Fife which Google Maps gives me are extremely low. Any help much appreciated. Christine

Well,  here's the message regarding my elusive Lambert ancestor. Joseph Lambert was born c. 1760;   I've seen years ranging from 1758-1764.  According to his 1843 New York State Naturalization papers he declared that he was " a native of Galloway, Scotland ".     He married Catherine Bacon (born c. 1780) who was born in Ireland, place unknown.  Whether Joseph Lambert and Catherine Bacon married in Ireland or Scotland, I don't know.   By no later than June of 1807 they were living in Edinburgh, when my great-great-grandfather Andrew Lambert was born.   I have only one earlier documented child, and that is John Lambert born c. 1805; for his brthplace I have seen both Scotland and Ireland. The Lamberts resided in Edinburgh until 1832;  Joseph is said to have been "a merchant", but what kind, hasn't been specified.  If of any relevance, some/many of this family were artists, though as far as I know, none professionally.  They emigrated to America, arriving on or around April 2, 1832 at the port of Montreal, Quebec, Canada.  Their destination for settlement was Mooers Forks, Clinton County, New York, only a few miles across the Quebec border.  Joseph Lambert and Catherine Bacon Lambert died at Mooers Forks, NY, he in 1851 and she in 1866.   Some of their children migrated to Glencoe,  McLeod County, Minnesota in the 1860's and 1870's. Basically,  Help, please !   If anyone has any resources for information, or even general ideas of how I might proceed as to identifying a birth, parents, siblings, etc., anything about the origins of Joseph Lambert,  I'll be deeply appreciative. Jerry Brosious, Minneapolis, Minnesota,  USA

Woops, hit wrong key, further comment . . . ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bruce McDowall <[email protected]> Date: Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Is Lambert a Galloway name? To: Jerrold Brosious <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Hi Jerry, Searching the name using the IGI gives few results, indicating it was a rare name. No baptisms appear in the 1700s, and only 2 marriages. CATHIRENE LAMBERT Spouse: RICHARD STEVENS Marriage: 28 OCT 1764 Portpatrick, Wigtown, Scotland Batch No.: M118964 CATHERINE LAMBERT Spouse: JOHN WILSON Marriage: 20 APR 1789 Portpatrick, Wigtown, Scotland Batch No.: M118964 The only other event in the IGI for Wigtownshire was a marriage in 1815. For Kirkcudbrightshire, there were 3 baptisms ranging from 1838 to 1843, and 9 marriages from 1838 to 1874. No Lamberts appear on the 1684 list or 1695 Hearth tax list for Wigtownshire. Regards, Bruce

Hi Jerry, Searching the name using the IGI gives few results, indicating it was a rare name. No baptisms appear in the 1700s, and only 2 marriages. CATHIRENE LAMBERT Spouse: RICHARD STEVENS Marriage: 28 OCT 1764 Portpatrick, Wigtown, Scotland Batch No.: M118964 CATHERINE LAMBERT Spouse: JOHN WILSON Marriage: 20 APR 1789 Portpatrick, Wigtown, Scotland Batch No.: M118964 The only other event in the IGI for Wigtownshire was a marriage in 1815. For Kirkcudbrightshire, there were 3 baptisms ranging from 1838 to 1843, and On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Jerrold Brosious <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Hello, this is Jerry Brosious in Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA. This will be > a > general question and after getting replies, if fortunate to get any, I'll > post a > specific query regarding my Lambert ancestors. > > My Lambert ancestor was born ca 1760 "a native of Galloway, Scotland", > according > to his U.S. Naturalization record. Can anyone give me feedback as to the > occurrence of the surname Lambert in Galloway----Wigtownshire and > Kirkcudbrightshire in the 1700's? Was it somewhat rare? Does anyone have > Lambert > connections in that time period in those old counties? Again, specifics of > my > case will come later. I'll appreciate respones from anyone, whether with > general > or more in-depth comments. > > Jerry > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Jerry, Emphasising the responses from Bruce and Ian that the Lambert name is very rare in D&G,  I can add this bit of data : A search of the DGFHS database of MIs lists only two Lambert burials, one in Wigtownshire and the other in Kirkcudbrightshire. These are both for the late 19th to early 20th century. That result is from a list of 24 thousand gravestones recoding 100 thousand burials.   Regards, Sandy     Location:  Glasserton Churchyard, WIG Reference:  Birchman J. E., "Memorials of Glasserton Parish: Old Kirkyard", (1978) In Loving Memory of  James LAMBERT, schoolmaster at Glasserton 1894 - 1933, who died at Lochwinnoch 18th Feb 1961  aged 93 years  Also his wife Georgina Henrietta TRUMBLE, who died at Craigdhu 18th Feb 1954 aged 80 years Surname               Forenames                                     Death   Birth  Remarks Lambert                 James                                             1961    1868 Trumble                 GeorginaHenrietta                            1954    1874   Location:  KirkmabreckCemetery, by Creetown, KKD Reference:  DGFHS, Kirkmabreck Cemetery Memorial Inscriptions, (2003) Erected in Loving Memory of  My dear husband Thomas BROWN, who died 19th June 1938 aged 60 years  Also the erector  Isabella BROWN, wife of George LAMBERT, who died 23rd January 1951 aged 69 years Surname               Forenames                                     Death   Birth  Remarks Brown                   Isabella                                           1951    1882   Married surname Brown                   Thomas                                          1938    1878 Lambert                 George ________________________________ From: Jerrold Brosious <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 3:11 Subject: [DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY] Is Lambert a Galloway name? Hello, this is Jerry Brosious in Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA. This will be a general question and after getting replies, if fortunate to get any, I'll post a specific query regarding my Lambert ancestors. My Lambert ancestor was born ca 1760 "a native of Galloway, Scotland", according to his U.S. Naturalization record. Can anyone give me feedback as to the occurrence of the surname Lambert in Galloway----Wigtownshire and Kirkcudbrightshire in the 1700's? Was it somewhat rare? Does anyone have Lambert connections in that time period in those old counties? Again, specifics of my case will come later. I'll appreciate respones from anyone, whether with general or more in-depth comments. Jerry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message