Hello Jeffrey, Thank you for contacting me. I have a Margaret DUNBAR who married on the 10 Aug 1754 in Kirkmahoe parish a John SMITH. The information came from the IGI, and I have no other details at present. If you have anything more about Margaret or her husband I would appreciate the details. If you have names and dates for her children, or her husband's parent's or his siblings this would also be useful to me, but I would normally not research the SMITH line further than this. If you wish I can record your interest in this line and if in the future I can add to Margaret's details I will contact you. Kind regards - and good hunting! Pat Pat(rick) R. L. Dunbar RESEARCHING the DUNBAR name, ANYWHERE, ANY TIME Organiser, Dunbar Family Society (UK) Member - Guild of One-Name Studies, Aberdeen & N.E. Scotland FHS, Scottish Genealogy Society mailto:dunbar@one-name.org http://www.dunbarfamilysociety.org.uk (for family history information) http://www.debbiedunbar.net (for equestrian art) -----Original Message----- From: Jeffery K. Davidson [mailto:jdavidson@rathandcompany.com] Sent: 15 June 2004 15:55 To: dunbar@one-name.org Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] DUNBAR Hello Patrick, I have one Dunbar in my tree so far, my ggggg grandmother, Margaret (Peggy) Dunbar. Apparently she was born in Aberdeen, Scotland (I think Aberdeen might be wrong) in 1733 and died in Kirkmahoe Parish, Dumfriesshire. Not sure you would want any of her descendants in your one name database. Any chance you have run across her before and that you might have more information on her family? Jeffery Davidson Calgary, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Dunbar" <patrick@pdunbar.fsnet.co.uk> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:17 AM Subject: [D-G LIST] DUNBAR > I would welcome a contact with anyone researching, or has connections with > the Dunbar name. > > I maintain a Dunbar one-name study database, and welcome any queries or > data. > > Pat(rick) R. L. Dunbar > RESEARCHING the DUNBAR name, ANYWHERE, ANY TIME > Organiser, Dunbar Family Society (UK) > Member - Guild of One-Name Studies, Aberdeen & N.E. Scotland FHS, > Scottish Genealogy Society > mailto:dunbar@one-name.org > http://www.dunbarfamilysociety.org.uk (for family history information) > http://www.debbiedunbar.net (for equestrian art) > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > To reach every member of the list : > Send Email to ....... DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com >
Hello Patrick, At the end of this e-mail is my contribution to your DUNBAR collection. Sheila Kronenberger Belleville, IL, USA In a message dated 6/16/04 4:00:53 AM, DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: >I would welcome a contact with anyone researching, or has connections with >the Dunbar name. > >I maintain a Dunbar one-name study database, and welcome any queries or >data. > >Pat(rick) R. L. Dunbar >RESEARCHING the DUNBAR name, ANYWHERE, ANY TIME >Organiser, Dunbar Family Society (UK) >Member - Guild of One-Name Studies, Aberdeen & N.E. Scotland FHS, >Scottish Genealogy Society >mailto:dunbar@one-name.org >http://www.dunbarfamilysociety.org.uk (for family history information) >http://www.debbiedunbar.net (for equestrian art) > 1 Thomas DUNBAR & Isabel WELCH m. 30 Oct 1798, Collace, Perth, Scotland 1.1 Laurence DUNBAR b. 3 May 1799, Kinrossie, Collace, Perth, Scotland ch. 12 May 1799, Collace, Perth, Scotland occ. General Labourer (1881) & Janet HAY b. abt 1816, Longforgan, Perth, Scotland Res. Litleour Cottar House, Caputh, Perth, Scotland (1881) m. abt 1839, Longforgan, Perth, Scotland 1.1.1 Thomas DUNBAR b. 28 Feb 1840, Collace, Perth, Scotland ch. 14 Mar 1840, Collace, Perth, Scotland 1.1.2 Margaret DUNBAR b. 4 Jul 1845, Collace, Perth, Scotland d. aft 1896 & Peter JAMIESON b. abt 1843, Rattray, Perth, Scotland d. bef 1896 occ. Carter (1881) Res. 10 Perth Street, Blairgowrie, Perthshire (1881) m. 15 Dec 1863, Collace, Perth, Scotland 1.1.2.1 Jessie (Janie) JAMIESON b. 7 Aug 1866, Forfar, Forfar, Scotland d. aft 1908 occ. Factory Worker (1881) & David DONALD [my 1C3R] b. 20 Oct 1835, Thorngreen, Collace, Perth, Scotland d. 1 Aug 1908, Kinrossie, Collace, Perth, Scotland ch. 1 Nov 1835, Collace, Perth, Scotland occ. Farmer (1896) Res. Kinrossie, Collace, Perthshire (1881, 1896) Cause. Hemiplegia Day And A Half m. 3 Jul 1896, Perth, Perth, Scotland 1.1.2.1.1 John DONALD b. abt 1895, Blairgowrie, Perth, Scotland d. aft 1901 1.1.2.2 David JAMIESON b. abt 1869, Bendochy, Perth, Scotland occ. Factory Worker (1881) 1.1.2.3 Peter JAMIESON b. abt 1874, Kettins, Perth, Scotland 1.1.2.4 James JAMIESON b. abt 1878, Angus County, Perth, Scotland 1.1.3 James DUNBAR b. 27 May 1848, Collace, Perth, Scotland ch. 7 Jun 1848, Collace, Perth, Scotland occ. Farm Servant (1881) & Margaret COUTTS b. abt 1847, Lochee, Forfar, Scotland Res. East Inchmichael Cottar House, Errol, Perth, Scotland (1881) 1.1.3.1 Charlotte DUNBAR b. abt 1873, Lochee, Forfar, Scotland 1.1.3.2 James DUNBAR b. abt 1873, Lochee, Forfar, Scotland 1.1.3.3 William DUNBAR b. abt 1877, Perth, Perth, Scotland 1.1.3.4 Margaret DUNBAR b. abt 1879, Perth, Perth, Scotland 1.1.4 Elizabeth DUNBAR b. 1851, Collace, Perth, Scotland 1.1.5 Mary DUNBAR b. 8 Mar 1855, Collace, Perth, Scotland & Thomas SMITH b. abt 1852, Strathkinness, Fife, Scotland occ. Ag Labourer (1881) Res. Litleour Cottar House, Caputh, Perth, Scotland (1881) 1.1.5.1 Jessie SMITH b. abt 1880, Kettins, Forfar, Scotland 1.2 William DUNBAR b. 6 Feb 1801, Collace, Perth, Scotland ch. 16 Feb 1801, Collace, Perth, Scotland 1.3 James DUNBAR b. 30 Mar 1803, Collace, Perth, Scotland ch. 3 Apr 1803, Collace, Perth, Scotland 1.4 Margaret DUNBAR b. 13 Apr 1805, Collace, Perth, Scotland ch. 21 Apr 1805, Collace, Perth, Scotland 1.5 Isobella DUNBAR b. 27 May 1807, Collace, Perth, Scotland 1.6 Alexander DUNBAR b. 1 Aug 1810, Collace, Perth, Scotland ch. 5 Aug 1810, Collace, Perth, Scotland occ. Crofter (1851) & Elizabeth ? b. abt 1818, Longforgan, Perth, Scotland 1.7 Janet DUNBAR b. 20 Feb 1813, Collace, Perth, Scotland ch. 1 Mar 1813, Collace, Perth, Scotland 1.8 Keith Fullerton Barron DUNBAR b. 20 Jul 1815, Collace, Perth, Scotland ch. 23 Jul 1815, Collace, Perth, Scotland 1.9 Thomas DUNBAR b. 3 Sep 1817, Collace, Perth, Scotland ch. 6 Nov 1817, Collace, Perth, Scotland
----- Original Message ----- From: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 2:00 AM Subject: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D Digest V04 #158 unsubscribe
Hi, I had amazing success last year by placing a free ad via the following person. My father's brother emigrated as a 14yr old farm labourer in the 1920's to the Cossar Farm in Lower Gagetown, New Brunswick. A family friend spotted my ad and wrote to me with photos, obituary and lots of stories from his life. It was very touching. Sadly my uncle passed on ten years ago after suffering a stroke which left him blind but it was comforting to know that he had such good friends who looked after him. Wishing you much luck. Ruth (Australia) Have Your FREE Query Published in Atlantic Canada Newspapers! By: Sandra Devlin, sdevlin4770@rogers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "aj j" <gencraze_921@hotmail.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 7:42 AM Subject: [D-G LIST] Need Help > > Hi i was hoping someone might know who i should contact ,i was told there is > a women who places ads in newspapers for people for free across canada ,i am > in need of this to locate a lost family member. any help would be great tks > A.J.Jenkins > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=htt p://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > If your line involves the surname GRAHAM why not join > CLAN-GRAHAM-L@rootsweb.com and find out more. > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >
I would welcome a contact with anyone researching, or has connections with the Dunbar name. I maintain a Dunbar one-name study database, and welcome any queries or data. Pat(rick) R. L. Dunbar RESEARCHING the DUNBAR name, ANYWHERE, ANY TIME Organiser, Dunbar Family Society (UK) Member - Guild of One-Name Studies, Aberdeen & N.E. Scotland FHS, Scottish Genealogy Society mailto:dunbar@one-name.org http://www.dunbarfamilysociety.org.uk (for family history information) http://www.debbiedunbar.net (for equestrian art)
> I am, > however, bound by professional ethics which dictate that research is the > property of the person who commissioned the research. > > A fair number of files in DGFHS were gathered as a result of paid research > and deposited by the researcher, not the owner. This is a whole different matter and does complicate matters and I would also say there is as much a moral issue as a commercial or legal one. I completely understand the reasoning behind the action DGFHS are taking. All I want to point out is that other institutions would maybe accept the pedigrees that DGFHS considered a low priority due to their space restrictions. Don't get me wrong I think all the FHS do a fantastic job and all the volunteers efforts are greatly appreciated. I think going forward the system in place will work well as ownership is being taken for the content. I just don't like the "nanny" attitude of somebody deciding what is good and bad research - I'll decide for me. I mentioned the 100 yr rule previously as a useful tool for avoiding the need for written permission from living people appearing on the tree. Frankly I think it is irresponsible to put your family tree in th epublic domain with a full descent to yourself. Credit card fraud is simple with a d.o.b. and a mother's maiden name! All my paperwork stops at my now deceased grt-grand-parents. Anywho, this is my last post on the matter - though I find it is a very interesting subject, one to mull over with a nice pint I think! But I don't want to clog the list since my belief that copyright violation is a victimless issue and only becomes "crime" when caught isn't shared by many. Cheers, Pam :-)
This is great stuff. If you don't want it, please consider donating it to the Family History Library in Salt Lake City with permission to microfilm it. That would preserve it and make the info available to lots of people who might be interested in these families. Even if you do want to keep it, consider sending in copies to SLC with permission to microfilm. For info on how to donate to the FHC in SLC, look here. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHL/frameset_library.asp?PAGE=library_donations.asp Sheila in Baltimore, MD -----Original Message----- From: marcher51@sbcglobal.net [mailto:marcher51@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:05 PM To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: re: family records I was given by a friend who had no use for it, a collection of large charts of different families. It looks like a large volumn, but when you open it, it is two pockets, one on each side that holds the folded charts. The charts are abt. 4x legal paper. I think they are comparable to ahnentafel outlines or reports that we see nowadays. Any comments appreciated. <hack>
Hi The 100 year rule and protection of individuals is not the only consideration. I have been doing paid research for a few years now and have therefore amassed a bit of knowledge on a fair number of families. I am, however, bound by professional ethics which dictate that research is the property of the person who commissioned the research. A fair number of files in DGFHS were gathered as a result of paid research and deposited by the researcher, not the owner. We had one case of a member who made contact with someone researching the same name who offered to send her the information she already had. When the material arrived it was found to be a copy of the members own research being passed off as new. The pedigree charts submitted and signed by the member, and available to all members is a much fairer system, and hopefully accurate. At least the originator of the research can be contacted in order to verify sources. In the short period that we have operated the system we have more than double the number of trees than we had on the old system. Regards Ian A McClumpha Researching Family History in Dumfries & Galloway ~ and beyond. Please visit my Website: http://www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: Ron & Barb Ernst [mailto:rjern@rconnect.com] Sent: 13 June 2004 15:37 To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [D-G LIST] re family records ` I feel that I need to inject my two-cent's worth again. Protection of the living is what the 100 year rule is supposedly about. It is designed to protect the living although it also keeps valuable information from us. This is not about that. The old family record in question is such a valuable roadmap for many and should be used as such. The question I have is this--just how would anyone verify data that goes back to the 1300's? If the person were a very well known individual then he might appear in books but the ordinary person is just so much dust. You may know from family stories that so and so in 1598 married so and so but just where is that information recorded now? Until record-keeping became mandatory in each country there will be huge gaps in records. Just a very slim possibility exists that parish records will be found. What about the hundreds of irregular Scottish marriages? The decendants of those people consider themselves just as important as those who appear on church registers. So many countries had customs similar to the irregular marriages, even in the early years of the United States mountain communities without ministers had customs such as 'jumping over a broom' and those marriages ! are not recorded except possibly in family Bibles (if anyone could write). If we limit genealogy to official records then a lot of us cease to exist. What will our grand-children find when they try to find their roots? Somewhere a bit of common sense has to be used. Possibly something as simple as a notation that the information is apocryphal but based on 'family records'. Barb --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.703 / Virus Database: 459 - Release Date: 10/06/04 ________________________________________________________________________ FREE local-rate dial-up - no monthly fees! Move over to Freeola for FREE unlimited web space, e-mail & domain hosting www.freeola.com
Sandy, "... But facts are chiels that winna ding, An downa be disputed: ... " This quotation is from `A Dream'. It was a very political (and some might consider outrageous) poem written by Burns in 1786 in response to an Ode written by the poet laureate of the time on the occasion of King George III's 48th birthday. The particular quotation refers to the loss of Britain's American colonies. Eunice Smith Edinburgh, Scotland From: <DFSGAL@aol.com> Burns used a saying which I have to paraphrase (i.e. imaginatively reconstruct it because I can't find the source, but no doubt somebody can): FACTS ARE CHEILDS THAT DINNA DING
In a message dated 13/06/2004 Pam (pfallonc@btinternet.com) writes: > > All law and directives are open to interpretation, they are not > prescriptive. > > I think not including family trees or notes without written permission > is too strict *IF* you honour the 100 yr rule. Would DGFHS accept > and make available pedigrees that finish at 1904? I'll contact them > obviously rather than leave the question hanging. Can't speak for DGFHS Council, but I can say what my view is. The Pedigree Charts I referred to do not fit this question being asked. Being pedigrees they start with the submitter and trace his/her ancestry backward, so inevitably they and contain a lot of data post 1904. We can use only because the person submitting the data has given written permission for such data to be accessed by other researchers. The data is not in the public domain it is accessed only through DGFHS. We make it available to DGFHS members by written request. All existing members were notified about this change in policy about a year ago, all new members are given details in their new memer's pack. http://www.dgfhs.org.uk/dgfhs/pdgr-chrts/pdgr-ndx.htm explains this in detail. As I said in an earlier email, we are examining all the earlier material with similar content. I don't know anyone at DGFHS who wants to discard good genealogical research material. But as Irene said, DGFHS do not have the capacity to act as an Archive. A group of vounteers have been given the task of examining lots of old material, like copies of researches reports done for or by members. The aim is to retaining documents that are considered to be of value to future researchers. They have the unenviable task of deciding which documents to keep and which to consign to the shredder. Indexed material and material where sources can be verified will be high among the deciding factors on what to keep. The story doesn't end there though. Where ownership can be identified, a way will have to be found to authenticate the use of this material in terms of the Data Protection Legislation, otherwise we can't use. Incidentally, there isn't much leeway for interpretation with Data Protection Laws, the penalties for getting it wrong make it a risk few Societies are willing to take. As for hundred year rules or fifty year rules and the like, I believe these apply these apply mainly to government bodies -- most genealogist view them as excusses for not opening up the public archives they eant to see now. The hundred year rule certainly doesn't apply when MIs are recorded and published. The cut-off date is generally decided by the transcriber and publisher. I personally favour a fifty-year cut off date. Others don't bother about any cut-off date. The legislation I refer to above doesn't apply in this case because an MI is already in the public domain. As I said, I've no authority to give a DGFHS 'ruling' on anything, these are my views. I hope the above adds something of value to the discussion. Best regards to all, Sandy
Thanks Eunice, Kint fine I'd s'n be pit richt on that een, 'specially it bein fae Burns. Bit I wisna far oot efter a'. winna = will not and dinna = do not : ding = to be put down or rejected out of hand > > "... But facts are chiels that winna ding, An downa be disputed: ... " > Sandy
Is this cemetery well looked after or now run down & overgrown. Is it easily accessable? Barbara
Although I have been advised that these are not an Inn that I know them as more as a 'Hotel" can someone help me out with the question of Is the King's Arms & the St George (or possibly George) Hotel in the same street or area. I believe they are both in the Dunscore/Dumfries area. Thanks for all help given. Barbara
In a message dated 13/06/2004 13:29:29 GMT Daylight Time, Epaxton@aol.com writes: > Could the papers be scanned and stored electronically, if after further > consideration DGFHS felt they would be happy to be recipients? > DGFHS don't have the facilities or (more importantly) the volunteer time to do this. It is not possible for the society to be a archive for family trees. I suspect that the boom in popularity of genealogy will outstrip the storage facilities of even libraries and archives ........... electronic storage such as rootweb and other online sites may be the answer, but they may not (in fact probably won't) preserve it forever. In any case the results of any genealogist's research are always secondary sources........... and if all our work was preserved for ever where's the fun for future generations <g> Irene
All law and directives are open to interpretation, they are not prescriptive. I think not including family trees or notes without written permission is too strict *IF* you honour the 100 yr rule. Would DGFHS accept and make available pedigrees that finish at 1904? I'll contact them obviously rather than leave the question hanging. My tu'pence to the debate on what to do with the wonderful find you have is to post a simple website listing all the people down to 1904. Deposit photocopies with those institutions that have pedigree records, chosing the areas that appear on the tree itself. I'm happy to enquire at the different Edinburgh libraries - the Scottish Room at the Edinburgh Reference may like a copy? How about one of the Scottish genealogy societies? I was in the Carlisle Record Office on Friday and they have very interesting "Pedigree Boxes" which range from back of envelope jottings to full gilt edge wall charts! Lack of sources? So what? That was their research - your's (sloppy pronoun - not directed at anyone) is independent to that! As other's have said - CHECK THE SOURCES YOURSELF... But I don't know what they are, well the tree gives you a pointer doesn't it - who and where to look. I think these are excellent pointers, they are way-markers not destinations. I recently found a file submitted to the LDS that had one of my families on it, I had 9 children they had 12. A bit of investigation I found that three of their children had been born in Sibaldie I only had the Locmaben births. The Sibaldie connection helped me breakdown the brickwall I'd assumed was from Lochmaben. SO they are useful. Anyway I hope a home is found and thank you so much for typing it and posting it here. Regards, Pam
` I feel that I need to inject my two-cent's worth again. Protection of the living is what the 100 year rule is supposedly about. It is designed to protect the living although it also keeps valuable information from us. This is not about that. The old family record in question is such a valuable roadmap for many and should be used as such. The question I have is this--just how would anyone verify data that goes back to the 1300's? If the person were a very well known individual then he might appear in books but the ordinary person is just so much dust. You may know from family stories that so and so in 1598 married so and so but just where is that information recorded now? Until record-keeping became mandatory in each country there will be huge gaps in records. Just a very slim possibility exists that parish records will be found. What about the hundreds of irregular Scottish marriages? The decendants of those people consider themselves just as important as those who appear on church registers. So many countries had customs similar to the irregular marriages, even in the early years of the United States mountain communities without ministers had customs such as 'jumping over a broom' and those marriages ! are not recorded except possibly in family Bibles (if anyone could write). If we limit genealogy to official records then a lot of us cease to exist. What will our grand-children find when they try to find their roots? Somewhere a bit of common sense has to be used. Possibly something as simple as a notation that the information is apocryphal but based on 'family records'. Barb
I completely agree Pam. Data Protection Act's aren't really about keeping an eye on historic papers, whether they be absolutely accurate or simply a best steer - there may be nuggets there for someone no matter how accurate they are. Surely the likelihood is that they are actually accurate - maybe they were based on a parent's memory - not always perfect but a good place to start one's research from. I do appreciate though, that space for storage can be an important factor. Could the papers be scanned and stored electronically, if after further consideration DGFHS felt they would be happy to be recipients? edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks
Hi Barbara The George Hotel is in Dunscore and I think there probably was a Kings Arms there too at one time. There was a Kings Arms in Dumfries, but then these names crop up everywhere. Regards Ian. Researching Family History in Dumfries & Galloway ~ and beyond. Please visit my Website: http://www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Dennis [mailto:tdennis@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 13 June 2004 01:58 To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [D-G LIST] Inns in the same street or vicinity Although I have been advised that these are not an Inn that I know them as more as a 'Hotel" can someone help me out with the question of Is the King's Arms & the St George (or possibly George) Hotel in the same street or area. I believe they are both in the Dunscore/Dumfries area. Thanks for all help given. Barbara ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If your line involves the surname BRUCE why not join CLAN-BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com and find out more. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.703 / Virus Database: 459 - Release Date: 10/06/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.703 / Virus Database: 459 - Release Date: 10/06/04
Hi Barbara You can see Portrack (also known as Old Dunscore) here: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dfsgal/Dunscore-old/o-dnscr-1.htm From a single-track side-road, you need to open a farm gate and walk about 70 yards through a field and over a wall (steps). The graveyard is under the care of the local council, which means the grass gets cut several times a year. Regards Ian. Researching Family History in Dumfries & Galloway ~ and beyond. Please visit my Website: http://www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Dennis [mailto:tdennis@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 13 June 2004 01:59 To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [D-G LIST] Portrack Cemetery Is this cemetery well looked after or now run down & overgrown. Is it easily accessable? Barbara --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.703 / Virus Database: 459 - Release Date: 10/06/04
Hi Re -disposal of gifted family trees etc and DGFHS. - Yes this was about 2 years ago. I appreciate that changes have tasken place, but didn't realise that you can no longer readily use the former trees. I went to the shop on my first visit to Dumfries, researching my family. One of the staff looked in the files and came up with a detailed history report on my family. I was thrilled to bits! Although I had most of the info, it helped me a lot on side lines. The data was well researched, and accurate, although most of the sources were not quoted. Im Hastings Museum there is a collection of genealogical notes - really simple jottings - no sources given, on various local families, in the Mainwaring Baines collection, which is (or was!) available by photocopy, ir requested. It is a pity if this type of information is not still available, it can still be very helpful, although I do appreciate the difficulties of the legislation. Sorry to suggest wrong information!! Alison >-- Original Message -- >From: DFSGAL@aol.com >Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:42:03 EDT >Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] re family records >To: Alison_J@handbag.com, DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hello Alison, (and List) >As part of the discussion on the disposal of gifted (found) family trees, >you said, > >> I have also obtained copies of family trees which do >> not necesasarily have sources from the Dumfries and Galloway FHS. It's>worthcontacting them to see if they would like them. >> > >If that was recently, I'm surprised to hear it. Dumfries and Galloway have >had to totally review their policy on retaining old style family trees because of the latest European directives associated with the Data Protection act. >