Hi, Sandy - Good luck with this problem, since it seems you are stuck in the automated response rut. Reminds me of my attempts to get a real human from my ISP to respond to me for a simple question - suddenly no human is at the end of a phone call or an e-mail, and there is no suggested recourse short of discovering the bunker wherein they have the servers and pinning or gluing a note directly to same, in case they ever come to service the servers. I'll wait and hope for the best!! And may a herd of flea-infested camels take residence in their (ISP's) sitting rooms if they give you any grief. Muff > > Hi Brad, you must have missed my earlier post on this. > > The URL is valid! Our ISP has suspended the site. They claim that > dgfhs > have not used it for the last month and concluded, quite wrongly, that > we have > abandoned it. > > I'm trying to an answer from Freenetnames Out-sourced Support desk. > They > keep sending me copies of the the message that appears when you or > anyone else > clicks the button labelled for the Owner or Adminstrator (that's me). > > I have emailed them six times so far. That last twice I asked them to > do me > the courtesy of answering the specifices of the information I have > sent. > > To cut to chase: If I don't get an answer by Monday I will port the > Domain > and all the data to a new Service Provider. > > To return to your question: the URL will remain the same even with an > alternative provider. > > Sorry for the inconvenience this is causing, I'm trying to get it > sorted. > > Sandy > DGFHS volunteer webmaster Muff Worden Ranargata 3 710 Seydisfjordur Iceland Phone: +354-472-1775 Car: +354-854-4078 Web: www.geocities.com/mworden.geo/

In my response to Brad I should have said that it is still possible to email me at: webmaster@dgfhs.org.uk I can pass emails on to dgfhs key volunteers, e.g. Secretary, Membership Secretaries, Mail Order Secretary, Newsletter Editor, or whoever. I would be pleased to keep our Service going as far as is possible. Our ISP has switched off the site but they have not, as yet, switched me off. They might get round to that if I upset them on Monday with my final appeal to have the site re-activated. Sandy

Hi Brad, you must have missed my earlier post on this. The URL is valid! Our ISP has suspended the site. They claim that dgfhs have not used it for the last month and concluded, quite wrongly, that we have abandoned it. I'm trying to an answer from Freenetnames Out-sourced Support desk. They keep sending me copies of the the message that appears when you or anyone else clicks the button labelled for the Owner or Adminstrator (that's me). I have emailed them six times so far. That last twice I asked them to do me the courtesy of answering the specifices of the information I have sent. To cut to chase: If I don't get an answer by Monday I will port the Domain and all the data to a new Service Provider. To return to your question: the URL will remain the same even with an alternative provider. Sorry for the inconvenience this is causing, I'm trying to get it sorted. Sandy DGFHS volunteer webmaster > > Group > > The URL for the "dfghs" is NOT valid - anyone have a corrected one? > > Brad > >

Hello Christine, Thanks for your message. Another lister also pointed out these two places earlier in the week, but unfortunately neither is right. Mine is defiinitely in the parish of Canonbie, which is a few miles south of Langholm on the A7. The location is listed on the Canonbie parish registers, and not just for my RAE family, but for other surnames as well - so it was definitely somewhere very close to Canonbie. Thanks for the suggestions though! Cheers Annie ----- Original Message ----- From: "christine" <christine1945@blueyonder.co.uk> To: "Annie" <sconzani@ihug.co.nz> Cc: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie > > According to www.streetmaps.co.uk > it says there are 2 > one between Thornhill and Clonrae > and other one east of Sanquahr > Christine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Annie" <sconzani@ihug.co.nz> > To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 10:38 PM > Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie > > > > Hi Ian > > Thanks for your message. I've checked out the place you've indicated, > but I > > don't think it is the right one. My Bogg was definitely within the > > boundaries of the parish of Canonbie, which is a few miles south of > > Langholm on the A7, and that's a very long way from the Bogrie you > mention. > > I do appreciate your suggestion though. > > Cheers > > Annie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ian A McClumpha" <imchad@freeola.com> > > To: <sconzani@ihug.co.nz> > > Cc: "D&G List" <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 6:15 AM > > Subject: RE: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie > > > > > > > Hi Annie > > > > > > I think your 'Bogg' is probably Bogrie. The meanings are the same (a > > Boggy > > > place). Bogrie is a farm a few miles North of Tower of Sark on OS > > > reference NY329759. > > > > > > Regards > > > Ian. > > > Researching Family History in Dumfries & Galloway ~ and beyond. > Please > > > visit my Website: http://www.imchad.freeola.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sconzani@ihug.co.nz [mailto:sconzani@ihug.co.nz] > > > Sent: 23 June 2004 03:00 > > > To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone > > > I have a couple of ancestors born at Bogg (as opposed to in > > > a bog!), somewhere near Canonbie. > > > I've searched old maps and not found anything, and presume > > > it was either a very small village or the name of an estate > > > or property. > > > Anyone have any ideas about this please? > > > Thanks > > > Annie > > > Auckland, NZ > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 18/06/04 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > FREE local-rate dial-up - no monthly fees! Move over to Freeola for > > > FREE unlimited web space, e-mail & domain hosting www.freeola.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > > ******************************************************************** > > To UNSUBSCRIBE > > send a message to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L-request@rootsweb.com (for mail > > mode) or DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode) with > > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the message body. NO subject, NO signature. > > ************************************************************************ > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release Date: 25/06/2004 > > >

Folks, Would SKS please look up in the Dumfriesshire 1841 Census - HENDERSON. I know this is a problem because HENDERSON is a common name. I am trying to figure if the whole family migrated to Canada or just my GGGGF. I KNOW I have an GGGGF immigrant into Canada, buried in Perth County, Ontario. He is John HENDERSON, born [1815] Dumfriesshire, SCT. According to the Old Parish Records he was the son of Thomas HENDERSON and Janet CURRIE and was born in Lockmaben. There were several other children including one with the name of John, born 1814, who died as an infant. The folks likely to be alive at 1841 census are... Generation 1 -- GGGGGF Thomas's parents - Alexander HENDERSON bc1750 and mother Grace FERGUSON bc1750. Janet's parents - William CURRIE and Jean THOMPSON (unknown birth or death) Generation 2 -- GGGGF Thomas HENDERSON (1776 - 1847) and wife Janet CURRIE (1774-1859) both born and died in Lockmaben. Generation 3 -- GGGF Grace b1802, Jean b1804, Janet b1805, Mary b1808, Elizabeth b 1810, Helen b1811, Alexander b1814, [John b1814 infant death], John b1815 [my guy] NOW - I am trying to figure if the whole family migrated to Canada in 1815 to 1840 period. In other words did John strike out his own when he was 20 or so when so many young folks left SCT or did the whole family come to Canada. John was married in Gault in 1841 to Janet THOMPSON according to her obit in 1907. What I need is to see is if any of these folks are in Dumfriesshire in 1841. Regards, Brad Henderson

Hi Ian Thanks for your message. I've checked out the place you've indicated, but I don't think it is the right one. My Bogg was definitely within the boundaries of the parish of Canonbie, which is a few miles south of Langholm on the A7, and that's a very long way from the Bogrie you mention. I do appreciate your suggestion though. Cheers Annie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian A McClumpha" <imchad@freeola.com> To: <sconzani@ihug.co.nz> Cc: "D&G List" <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 6:15 AM Subject: RE: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie > Hi Annie > > I think your 'Bogg' is probably Bogrie. The meanings are the same (a Boggy > place). Bogrie is a farm a few miles North of Tower of Sark on OS > reference NY329759. > > Regards > Ian. > Researching Family History in Dumfries & Galloway ~ and beyond. Please > visit my Website: http://www.imchad.freeola.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: sconzani@ihug.co.nz [mailto:sconzani@ihug.co.nz] > Sent: 23 June 2004 03:00 > To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie > > > Hi everyone > I have a couple of ancestors born at Bogg (as opposed to in > a bog!), somewhere near Canonbie. > I've searched old maps and not found anything, and presume > it was either a very small village or the name of an estate > or property. > Anyone have any ideas about this please? > Thanks > Annie > Auckland, NZ > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 18/06/04 > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > FREE local-rate dial-up - no monthly fees! Move over to Freeola for > FREE unlimited web space, e-mail & domain hosting www.freeola.com > >

Hi Annie Bogrie is in the parish of Cannonbie. Cannonbie village is a few miles South of Langholm, the parish stretches for miles, East to West. Regards Ian. Researching Family History in Dumfries & Galloway ~ and beyond. Please visit my Website: http://www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: Annie [mailto:sconzani@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 25 June 2004 22:38 To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie Hi Ian Thanks for your message. I've checked out the place you've indicated, but I don't think it is the right one. My Bogg was definitely within the boundaries of the parish of Canonbie, which is a few miles south of Langholm on the A7, and that's a very long way from the Bogrie you mention. I do appreciate your suggestion though. Cheers Annie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian A McClumpha" <imchad@freeola.com> To: <sconzani@ihug.co.nz> Cc: "D&G List" <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 6:15 AM Subject: RE: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie > Hi Annie > > I think your 'Bogg' is probably Bogrie. The meanings are the same (a Boggy > place). Bogrie is a farm a few miles North of Tower of Sark on OS > reference NY329759. > > Regards > Ian. > Researching Family History in Dumfries & Galloway ~ and beyond. Please > visit my Website: http://www.imchad.freeola.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: sconzani@ihug.co.nz [mailto:sconzani@ihug.co.nz] > Sent: 23 June 2004 03:00 > To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie > > > Hi everyone > I have a couple of ancestors born at Bogg (as opposed to in > a bog!), somewhere near Canonbie. > I've searched old maps and not found anything, and presume > it was either a very small village or the name of an estate > or property. > Anyone have any ideas about this please? > Thanks > Annie > Auckland, NZ > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 18/06/04 > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > FREE local-rate dial-up - no monthly fees! Move over to Freeola for > FREE unlimited web space, e-mail & domain hosting www.freeola.com > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== ******************************************************************** To UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L-request@rootsweb.com (for mail mode) or DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode) with only the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the message body. NO subject, NO signature. ************************************************************************ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release Date: 25/06/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release Date: 25/06/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release Date: 25/06/04

Group The URL for the "dfghs" is NOT valid - anyone have a corrected one? Brad -----Original Message----- From: Judithmpayne@aol.com [mailto:Judithmpayne@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 3:39 AM To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] Dumfrieshire 1841 Census. In a message dated 24/06/2004 09:34:45 GMT Standard Time, rene_anderson@onetel.com writes: The 1841 census for Dumfries & Galloway was prepared by volunteers of Dumfries & Galloway Family History Society. The individual books for each parish are available for a very modest cost, which is aimed simply at recovering the costs of publishing. Repeating the exercise is undermining the tremendous efforts of these volunteers, who have spent years working on this project, which is now complete. See www.dgfhs.org.uk for details. By all means work on those that have not been transcribed. That will be very helpful. Trying to undermine any family history society will be of no benefit to any researcher and may do great harm in the long term. Rene Anderson Hear, hear, Rene. I have quite a number of these booklets and they are so good. Judy ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== FIND YOUR ANCESTORS http://www.directcon.net/tomas/Ancestry/index.html/

Re Posting my Surname Interests ............... CARRUTHERS & SPOUSES: Birth Dates Name Spouse area born or lived in Husband & Wife 1795 James Carruthers Sarah Mc Donald Urr Kirkcudbright,Lochmaben,Mouswald,Kirkmahoe,Closeburn 1822 William Carruthers Mary Murray Closeburn,Kirkmichael. 1835 James Carruthers Eliza A Bobbett Closeburn , Guillyburn, Somerset East South Africa. 1832 Janet Carruthers Ebernezer Neilson Closeburn,Dalry Kirkcudbright 1825 John Carruthers Jane A Swan Guilly burn Kirkmahoe, 1853 James Carruthers Margaret Shaw Closeburn,Kelton Kirkcudbright. 1854 Eliza Carruthers James Lister Closeburn.Dunshalt Fife,Stoneham M.A. 1863 John(Jack) Carruthers Josephine A Bradfield Grahamstown,Bathurst South Africa. 1864 Adeline Carruthers Tiffen & A Locke Somerset east S/Africa 1867 Marion Carruthers Alex(arthur) Botton Grahamstown, South Africa. 1879 Norman H Carruthers Maude Gowar Somerset east S/Africa 1886 Bertha J Carruthers Charles(Gus) Osmond Somerset east S/Africa Any links to these famlies please contact me on email home@zim.co.zw I L H Carruthers Harare Zimbabwe

According to www.streetmaps.co.uk it says there are 2 one between Thornhill and Clonrae and other one east of Sanquahr Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annie" <sconzani@ihug.co.nz> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie > Hi Ian > Thanks for your message. I've checked out the place you've indicated, but I > don't think it is the right one. My Bogg was definitely within the > boundaries of the parish of Canonbie, which is a few miles south of > Langholm on the A7, and that's a very long way from the Bogrie you mention. > I do appreciate your suggestion though. > Cheers > Annie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian A McClumpha" <imchad@freeola.com> > To: <sconzani@ihug.co.nz> > Cc: "D&G List" <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 6:15 AM > Subject: RE: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie > > > > Hi Annie > > > > I think your 'Bogg' is probably Bogrie. The meanings are the same (a > Boggy > > place). Bogrie is a farm a few miles North of Tower of Sark on OS > > reference NY329759. > > > > Regards > > Ian. > > Researching Family History in Dumfries & Galloway ~ and beyond. Please > > visit my Website: http://www.imchad.freeola.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sconzani@ihug.co.nz [mailto:sconzani@ihug.co.nz] > > Sent: 23 June 2004 03:00 > > To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie > > > > > > Hi everyone > > I have a couple of ancestors born at Bogg (as opposed to in > > a bog!), somewhere near Canonbie. > > I've searched old maps and not found anything, and presume > > it was either a very small village or the name of an estate > > or property. > > Anyone have any ideas about this please? > > Thanks > > Annie > > Auckland, NZ > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 18/06/04 > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > FREE local-rate dial-up - no monthly fees! Move over to Freeola for > > FREE unlimited web space, e-mail & domain hosting www.freeola.com > > > > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > ******************************************************************** > To UNSUBSCRIBE > send a message to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L-request@rootsweb.com (for mail > mode) or DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode) with > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the message body. NO subject, NO signature. > ************************************************************************ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release Date: 25/06/2004

Hi Annie I think your 'Bogg' is probably Bogrie. The meanings are the same (a Boggy place). Bogrie is a farm a few miles North of Tower of Sark on OS reference NY329759. Regards Ian. Researching Family History in Dumfries & Galloway ~ and beyond. Please visit my Website: http://www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: sconzani@ihug.co.nz [mailto:sconzani@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 23 June 2004 03:00 To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie Hi everyone I have a couple of ancestors born at Bogg (as opposed to in a bog!), somewhere near Canonbie. I've searched old maps and not found anything, and presume it was either a very small village or the name of an estate or property. Anyone have any ideas about this please? Thanks Annie Auckland, NZ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 18/06/04 ________________________________________________________________________ FREE local-rate dial-up - no monthly fees! Move over to Freeola for FREE unlimited web space, e-mail & domain hosting www.freeola.com

------- Subject: Fw: wallace looking after susan and liz in 1861 hi all I THINK THESE TWO RIDDLE GIRLS ARE THE SAME AS THE RIDDALL GIRLS IN THE 1851 CENSUS THE DATES ARE RIGHT MY JOHN RIDDELL WAS MARRIED PRIOR TO MOVING AND REMARRYING IN 1859,WE BELIVE HIS WIFE ELIZABETH DIED BETWEEN 1852 AND 1859 CAN ANYONE SHED ANY LIGHT ON THIS PLEASE? Subject: wallace looking after susan and liz in 1861 /9 56.1 Wigtown Row Janet Wallace 60F Dressmaker 1/9 56.2 Wigtown Row Jean Wallace 50F Dressmaker 1/9 56.3 Wigtown Row Elizabeth Riddle 13F 1/9 56.4 Wigtown Row Susan Riddle 11F 1 Subject: john riddall is riddell Name:RIDDALL, Elisabeth WAS A CAMPBELL MARRIED 1847 IN MOCHRUM,BUT MARRIED AS RIDDELL Address: Chillochglass (892): Parish: Mochrum Relationship: wife of John Marital Status: married Occupation: Age: 31 Born: born Old Cumnock, Ayrshire Household No: 8/11 Name:RIDDALL, Elisabeth Address: Chillochglass (892): Parish: Mochrum Relationship: daughter of John Marital Status: Occupation: Age: 3 Born: born Mochrum WGT Household No: 8/11 Name:RIDDALL, John Address: Chillochglass (892): Parish: Mochrum Relationship: head of household Marital Status: married Occupation: FARMER of 108 acres, 700 moor. Employs 2 labourers. Age: 32 Born: born New Cumnock, Ayrshire Household No: 8/11 Name:RIDDALL, Sushin Address: Chillochglass (892): Parish: Mochrum Relationship: daughter of John Marital Status: Occupation: Age: one year Born: born Mochrum WGT Household No: 8/11 Name:RIDDALL, William Address: Chillochglass (892): Parish: Mochrum Relationship: brother of John Marital Status: unmarried Occupation: EMPLOYED ON the FARM Age: 30 Born: born New Cumnock, Ayrshire Household No: 8/11 1 to 5 of 5 [Page 1 ]

Please, ALL, before commenting further, check the Freecen site! Reference <Must concur with Rene. Why can't the Free Census Project work on 1801, <1811, 1831, 1861 or 1871. And re-do 1841, 1881, 1891, 1901 when the <rest are done. The project needs volunteers! I checked the site yesterday, and the only 100% completed counties were Bute, East Lothian and Cornwall, Devon being 92.3% finished - so there is much to do. Perhaps the ones criticising the site should lead the way in volunteering .... Regarding content. A published index sometimes gives the barest of information - Freecen permits you to extract family groups, so is the next-best thing to examining the original record. Regarding cost - remember, many involved in this hobby are on low incomes, or retired and on low pensions. For a large-scale study the purchasing of all relevant indexes would not be financially possible. Freecen is a godsend! Having worked on two parishes for Freecen, I hoping to do more during the coming winter - come on, who will join me? Pat(rick) R. L. Dunbar RESEARCHING the DUNBAR name, ANYWHERE, ANY TIME Organiser, Dunbar Family Society (UK) Member - Guild of One-Name Studies, Aberdeen & N.E. Scotland FHS, Scottish Genealogy Society mailto:dunbar@one-name.org http://www.dunbarfamilysociety.org.uk (for family history information) http://www.debbiedunbar.net (for equestrian art)

I am an MSc student undertaking Master's research into how and to what extent family historians actually make use of the Internet and how they perceive it as a research tool. Please would you help me in my research by taking my survey by clicking on the link below. The survey will take you 2-3 minutes to complete. http://www.insitefulsurveys.com/Survey.asp?SI=44519386050 Thank you for helping me with my research. Joanne

Does anyone know why the Family History Site: www.dgfhs.org.uk is no longer accessible? And what does that portend? Brian Mair Hamilton New Zealand

Hello Iain Thanks for your message. I checked the site Jim mentioned, but as you point out neither of the Boggs shown are near Canonbie, which my place definitely was as its on the Canonbie parish registers. A useful site from Jim though, and I have thanked him for pointing it out. Shame it wasn't your Bogg, as more information would have been most welcome. Thanks anyway! Annie ----- Original Message ----- From: Iain Hutchison To: sconzani@ihug.co.nz ; DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie Hi Annie, There is a house (in the 19th century it was a dairy) called Bogg near Sanquhar. This is unlikely to be your Bogg as it is many miles from Canonbie, but it was situated next to a bog and in 19th century correspondence was also referred to as Bog. However on one occasion it was written as Bogue suggesting that there was some sensitivity about admitting you lived in the Bog! If this Bogg IS by any chance the one you seek, I would be most interested in hearing from you and I also have lots of information on it. Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: sconzani@ihug.co.nz To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 23 June 2004 03:00 Subject: [D-G LIST] A place called Bogg, near Canobie Hi everyone I have a couple of ancestors born at Bogg (as opposed to in a bog!), somewhere near Canonbie. I've searched old maps and not found anything, and presume it was either a very small village or the name of an estate or property. Anyone have any ideas about this please? Thanks Annie Auckland, NZ ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% DO NOT send files as Email attachments to the list. Send them privately - person to person. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

I know that some parts of England had earlier census returns that gave details rather than a simple headcount, but I thought the 1841 was the earliest to list names. Was the census more thorough in Scotland? If it was it would help me a great deal as my MENZIES ancestors are supposed to have been from Durrisdeer and Enterkinfoot in Dumfriesshire. My gt gt grandfather was listed on the 1841 census for Newark Nottinghamshire along with one of his younger brothers. He was joined shortly after by another younger brother and all three married between 1843 and 1850. All three gave their father as Andrew MENZIES, Farmer. None state that the father was deceased at the time of the marriage yet when a fellow lister kindly checked the 1841 census no sign of Andrew was found! An earlier census with details would be great news for me! Dorothy Dorothy Holden nee MENZIES Dover Kent England Uk --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.709 / Virus Database: 465 - Release Date: 22/06/04

To all that receive the list . Irene has had a negative shot at the FREE CENSUS PROJECT by stating that it all goes on line later in the year.. That may be so but it will cost $$$ to look at.. The FREE Census project aims to have all the Censuses online and searchable at no cost to the user. So please before you fire the gun try and find out what the Free census project is all about.. Cliff Kerr Australia Coordinator 1841 Dumfrieshire Free Census Project.

I also agree here - we have areadily available 1841, so why do we need another? There are plenty other census years that need to be done. edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

It is only a temporary blip. D&G Family History Society in Dumfries is alive and well. Yesterday when I was there for a short time there were visitors from Australia and the USA, as well as UK visitors. Rene Anderson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Mair" <bmair@xtra.co.nz> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:50 AM Subject: [D-G LIST] Where has D & G Family History Site gone? > Does anyone know why the Family History Site: > > www.dgfhs.org.uk > > is no longer accessible? > > And what does that portend? > > Brian Mair > Hamilton New Zealand > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > If your line involves the surname GRAHAM why not join > CLAN-GRAHAM-L@rootsweb.com and find out more. > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >